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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 07:07 |
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| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:10 |
| oSoMoN | good afternoon duflu | 07:17 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:24 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 07:26 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, would you like me to condense that list of Gnome fixes in your doc? | 07:26 |
| duflu | Or maybe as a presentation, a longer list in small text will be more effective | 07:27 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, duflu | 07:27 |
| oSoMoN | duflu, I think a short list of the most relevant/interesting fixes would be better | 07:30 |
| oSoMoN | I won't have time to go into a great deal of detail | 07:31 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, I was thinking maybe an almost unreadable (but accurate) slide you didn't have to explain might be impactful | 07:31 |
| oSoMoN | not sure unreadable is good | 07:33 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, yeah it's about the impact ("we did lots"), not the individual items | 07:33 |
| duflu | The idea is that you're not meant to read it all | 07:34 |
| oSoMoN | got it, we can do something like that, and people interested can go back to the slides and read them later on | 07:34 |
| * duflu continues throwing fixes at Gnome to see what sticks | 07:35 | |
| oSoMoN | I'd still like to highlight a few relevant fixes, those that stand out | 07:35 |
| * oSoMoN → school | 07:36 | |
| ShriHari | hi | 07:43 |
| duflu | Hello ShriHari | 07:47 |
| ShriHari | helo | 07:48 |
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| willcooke | morning all | 08:57 |
| didrocks | good morning willcooke | 08:59 |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke | 09:01 |
| willcooke | I've just targetted this for Bionic: | 09:01 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1754169 | 09:01 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1754169 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "[Bionic] [wayland] many gnome applications exit or crash when a file is opened from within" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:01 |
| willcooke | But looks like it could be wayland only, so maybe that was a mistake. WDYT? | 09:01 |
| tjaalton | duflu: looks like libinput 1.10.2 adds another crasher, according to debian bug #892714 | 09:07 |
| ubot5` | Debian bug 892714 in libinput10 "libinput10: Crashes Gnome session" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/892714 | 09:07 |
| * duflu looks | 09:07 | |
| seb128 | back | 09:08 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:09 |
| duflu | tjaalton, sounds close (within 2 lines) to a fix that landed today (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105258) | 09:11 |
| ubot5` | Freedesktop bug 105258 in libinput "libinput crashes Xorg with SIGABRT in libinput_event_get_pointer_event" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey duflu tjaalton willcooke | 09:11 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 | 09:11 |
| duflu | tjaalton, although prexisting crashes in 1.10.1 were marked as a duplicate of that. So it's not new in 1.10.2 | 09:11 |
| seb128 | had a good w.e? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | willcooke, good trip back? | 09:11 |
| duflu | Morning seb128, willcooke | 09:11 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah fine. The lounge was closed when we got there, so had a few hours to kill in the airport. Found the "rooftop bar" but it was grrrrrrimmmmmm. | 09:13 |
| duflu | tjaalton, yes it's the same line of code (off by 2 depending which branch you look at). So sounds like what was fixed today | 09:13 |
| tjaalton | duflu: ok god | 09:13 |
| tjaalton | good | 09:13 |
| duflu | Also not new in 1.10.2 | 09:13 |
| seb128 | is there any reason we didn't sync that update yet? | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | weekend? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | sounds like a good reason :) | 09:19 |
| willcooke | didrocks, great reply on the hub re: theme. | 09:47 |
| didrocks | willcooke: thanks! :) | 09:48 |
| c-lobrano | Hi @willcooke and hi @didrocks, thanks for the reply ;) | 09:55 |
| didrocks | oh c-lobrano is around, hey! ;) | 09:56 |
| c-lobrano | :) | 09:56 |
| didrocks | thanks for your reply as well and happy to see we are aligned :) | 09:56 |
| didrocks | I'm going to push the move to bionic changes today btw, if you have time to review this evening… | 09:56 |
| c-lobrano | I'm always around, just in stealth mode :D | 09:56 |
| didrocks | heh | 09:56 |
| c-lobrano | of course, I'm still studying what has to be done however, never managed a ppa before | 09:57 |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: yeah, basically I need to implement the distro-part anyway at first | 09:58 |
| didrocks | changing some XDG_ for that session so that apps can look up for this theme | 09:58 |
| c-lobrano | alright. I'm also looking at that dashtodock "issue" you posted, but maybe I need a VM to avoid breaking my dev environment :D | 09:59 |
| * c-lobrano already did on another machine and couldn't change gnome-shell anymore :( | 10:00 | |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: yeah, because if I need to ship the empty file, it needs to be in the distro | 10:00 |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: was my post about it clear enough on the various options ? | 10:01 |
| c-lobrano | didrocks: if you refer to this https://community.ubuntu.com/t/mockups-new-design-discussions/1898/210, it looks clear, I just wanted to test it on my machine first | 10:03 |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: exactly, it was the one! | 10:03 |
| c-lobrano | didrocks: perfect :) | 10:03 |
| didrocks | basically my idea to enable you to override from the snap would be to ship in ubuntu an empty .css file | 10:03 |
| didrocks | (matching the theme name) | 10:03 |
| c-lobrano | then we will provide the real .css with the snap? | 10:04 |
| didrocks | exactly | 10:04 |
| didrocks | or | 10:04 |
| didrocks | even in the main theme | 10:04 |
| didrocks | it should override the rest | 10:04 |
| c-lobrano | didrocks: I'd like the first option more | 10:05 |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: right, but from the snap, you can't ship a mode_name.css where the extension is installed | 10:07 |
| c-lobrano | didrocks: oh, right | 10:07 |
| didrocks | which is why we are to rely on the implementation detail if the snap road is chosen :/ | 10:07 |
| c-lobrano | didrocks: this also means we need to generate the dashtodock css separately from gnome-shell one | 10:13 |
| andyrock | good morning! | 10:14 |
| didrocks | c-lobrano: not with the snap solution, basically we'll get it inside the gnome-shell one (in the snap) and allow overriding it by, in the distro, shipping this empty file matching the mode name. | 10:17 |
| c-lobrano | ok | 10:23 |
| * willcooke has a cunning plan | 10:41 | |
| * willcooke lols at user "Angelina Bungeejump" | 10:46 | |
| didrocks | willcooke: mind sharing your evil ideas? :) | 10:48 |
| didrocks | because… it has to be evil ;) | 10:48 |
| willcooke | didrocks, https://community.ubuntu.com/t/free-culture-showcase/4562/4 | 10:48 |
| didrocks | "Sorry, you don't have access to that topic! | 10:49 |
| didrocks | " | 10:49 |
| * didrocks feels out | 10:49 | |
| willcooke | sec | 10:50 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Thanks for merging gnome-session, but most of the builds failed. Do you understand why? | 10:54 |
| willcooke | didrocks, try now | 10:55 |
| didrocks | willcooke: answered already ;) | 10:56 |
| didrocks | thx! | 10:56 |
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| willcooke | didrocks, oh yeah! | 10:57 |
| willcooke | email is slower than you | 10:57 |
| didrocks | heh, I just hit "refresh" after a while while my code was compiling :p | 10:58 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, yeah, I'm going to fix it ... did you try to build a package with your changes? | 11:06 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Indeed I did. But only locally on amd64 (and that one succeeded). | 11:07 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, weird | 11:08 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'm lost. Usually when such code in d/rules fails, it spots out clear indications about what caused it. | 11:24 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 11:30 |
| willcooke | morning ricotz | 11:30 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, hi, are you working on firefox 59? I have pushed another change to the beta branch which you should pick up | 11:31 |
| ricotz | willcooke, hey | 11:31 |
| oSoMoN | good morning ricotz | 11:33 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi | 11:42 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, k, I understand why it fails | 12:08 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, your loop ends with | 12:16 |
| seb128 | unity-session/usr/share/xsessions/unity.desktop; do \ | 12:16 |
| seb128 | test -f $$f && echo X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=gnome-session-3.0 >> $$f; \ | 12:16 |
| seb128 | done | 12:16 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, or unity (and gnome-session-common which contains gnome-session-properties.desktop) are "arch: all" so built only on amd64 | 12:16 |
| seb128 | so unity.desktop doesn't exist in this case | 12:17 |
| seb128 | test returns 1 | 12:17 |
| seb128 | the loop ends up on an error return | 12:17 |
| seb128 | the makefile stops | 12:17 |
| seb128 | unsure what's the "most correct way" to fix it | 12:17 |
| seb128 | test && echo || true | 12:17 |
| seb128 | or "! test || echo" maybe? | 12:18 |
| seb128 | ^ does anyone has an opinion on that? | 12:18 |
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| jbicha | seb128: GunnarHj: I believe the "correct" way is to use a override_dh_install-arch and override_dh_install-indep . We had to do this in the gnome-software packaging | 12:28 |
| jbicha | I wish unity-session were provided in a Unity package instead of gnome-session… :) | 12:29 |
| ricotz | I am a bit confused that clamav 0.99.4+addedllvm suggest it doesnt require an external llvm library, but libclamav7 depends on libllvm3.9 | 12:29 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey, do you want to fix it if you know the tweaks to do? | 12:31 |
| jbicha | I can take a look later if it's still not fixed | 12:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well, if I fix it that's by using ! test || echo :p | 12:38 |
| seb128 | that's less code that having sections for arch indep and arch dep bits | 12:38 |
| jbicha | or have Unity provide their own session files, that's less code for us too 😉 | 12:39 |
| seb128 | jbicha, does't resolve the gnome-session-common / gnome-session-properties.desktop which has the same issue | 12:40 |
| jbicha | ok | 12:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, seems like that deja-dup/webkit bug stalled upstream, it was active/getting regular comment at the begging and now nothing :/ | 12:52 |
| jbicha | I'm concerned that we get it fixed before we need to do another webkit2gtk security update :( | 12:56 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I can submit an MP with "|| true" or changing it to "if [ -f $$f ]; then". Would any of those be ok? | 13:23 |
| tjaalton | should we install the vulkan drivers by default? | 13:26 |
| tjaalton | mesa-vulkan-drivers | 13:26 |
| jbicha | seb128: are we demoting the gnome-characters .deb to universe? | 13:36 |
| jbicha | (I'm asking because I need to know whether to add the dh_translations meson hack or not) | 13:48 |
| jbicha | also, could you subscribe the bug team to volume-key? MIR is LP: #1754422 | 13:49 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754422 | 13:49 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-session/translations2/+merge/341305 | 14:05 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I've been thinking about it over lunch, wouldn't it be easier to do | 14:08 |
| seb128 | (hum, wait, checking something) | 14:09 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, for f in tmp/usr/share/wayland-sessions* tmp/usr/share/xsessions/* tmp/usr/share/applications/*; do | 14:11 |
| seb128 | test -f $$f && echo X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=gnome-session-3.0 >> $$f; \ | 14:11 |
| seb128 | done | 14:11 |
| seb128 | dh_install | 14:11 |
| seb128 | like do the iterate with *.desktop in tmp before dh_install | 14:11 |
| seb128 | that wouldn't need to code the list of .desktop either so wouldn't need to change the rules if those are changing | 14:12 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Makes sense. Back to drawing board. | 14:13 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thx | 14:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, gnome-characters, I guess so? | 14:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k for volume-key | 14:13 |
| jbicha | seb128: could you go ahead and demote g-characters then? (it shows up on component-mismatches) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k | 14:16 |
| jbicha | didrocks: could you reconsider making your volume-past-100% feature for gnome-control-center apply only to the Ubuntu session? | 14:39 |
| jbicha | gnome-tweaks on Ubuntu doesn't ship the Sound panel so it's hard for vanilla GNOME users to configure that | 14:40 |
| didrocks | jbicha: well, as long GNOME doesn't include it upstream, we said we would keep the vanilla experience vanilla | 14:43 |
| didrocks | not adding our own features on top of it | 14:43 |
| didrocks | so, I'm really against due to this kind of deal and advertisement to let people using that feature "easily" on the vanilla experience, as they requested… vanilla :) | 14:43 |
| jbicha | I had a complaint about the missing Sound panel though :| | 14:43 |
| didrocks | direct them to the PR on gitlab not getting reviewed | 14:44 |
| jbicha | (Ubuntu GNOME always had a few tweaks though…) | 14:45 |
| didrocks | yeah, but vanilla GNOME isn't Ubuntu GNOME | 14:45 |
| jbicha | it sort of is | 14:46 |
| jbicha | we have lots of gnome-control-center patches, it seems odd to single one out for special treatment | 14:46 |
| didrocks | yeah, and I think we should (apart from the one being really integration to the system) condition them | 14:47 |
| jbicha | hmm, ok, I don't plan to work on that though :) | 14:47 |
| didrocks | everything which is behavior base should be limited to ubuntu and not touching the vanilla GNOME | 14:47 |
| didrocks | if anyone wants to work on that, I would love to :) | 14:48 |
| jbicha | I mean I use the Ubuntu session anyway, so it doesn't directly affect me much :) | 14:48 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:48 |
| didrocks | same here | 14:48 |
| didrocks | if people don't like the vanilla experience, they may raise this on the bug? | 14:49 |
| didrocks | so that we get that finally reviewed | 14:49 |
| didrocks | which will be a win for everyone | 14:49 |
| jbicha | didrocks: btw, I don't see upstream proposed g-c-c patches for that feature, just the g-s-d and gnome-shell patches | 14:52 |
| didrocks | jbicha: the g-c-c patch has been nacked | 14:54 |
| didrocks | only the schema, tweaks, g-s-d and g-s has been +1 | 14:54 |
| didrocks | (even if GNOME design had the g-c-c mockups) | 14:54 |
| jbicha | so there really isn't a place for users to complain easily? :( | 14:55 |
| didrocks | the GNOME Shell MR | 14:55 |
| didrocks | as told, it's where everything is blocked | 14:55 |
| willcooke | xnox, hi! I've +1'd the removals, do you want me to unassign myself and reassign you? | 15:15 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Updated as we said. | 15:15 |
| GunnarHj | https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-session/translations2/+merge/341305 | 15:15 |
| xnox | willcooke, thanks! well, assign vorlon | 15:15 |
| willcooke | xnox, ack | 15:16 |
| GunnarHj | Laney, seb128: Since it's Monday, and in accordance with my self-imposed commitment, I hereby remind of the need to decide on how to install langpacks. ;) You know about my 'plan B'. | 16:54 |
| GunnarHj | https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-control-center/scrollbar_hide-more/+merge/339494 | 16:54 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| gQuigs | I remember a discussion about switching to ext4 encryption (either to replace LUKS or for Home-directoy) - now all I can find is https://askubuntu.com/questions/874122/is-it-possible-to-use-ext4-native-encryption-for-encrypting-home-directory | 17:58 |
| gQuigs | is this something that's still be tracked somewhere? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, L_aney is not working today, but yeah we should discuss it maybe tomorrow | 18:34 |
| seb128 | gQuigs, it's still wanted, I don't know about "tracked", ask the security team maybe | 18:34 |
| kenvandine | good morning robert_ancell! | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, yo | 20:27 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: could you look into LP: #1754903 when you have time? | 20:29 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1754903 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) ""Close" string not marked for translation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754903 | 20:29 |
| robert_ancell | whoops | 20:30 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell, had a good trip back? | 20:31 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, long and tedious = good ? | 20:31 |
| robert_ancell | It was uneventful, which is the best you can hope for :) | 20:31 |
| seb128 | right | 20:31 |
| acheronuk | jbicha: spice-vdagent is useful for non gnome flavours I assume? | 21:28 |
| jbicha | acheronuk: yes, it's useful if you want your flavor to work well in GNOME Boxes (or presumably other spice clients) | 21:36 |
| jbicha | it's sort of like the VirtualBox guest additions, as I understand it | 21:36 |
| acheronuk | jbicha: right. a quick google after it appeared on my last meta refresh suggested as much, but thought I would double check. thanks | 21:37 |
| jbicha | acheronuk: on a vaguely related topic, is Kubuntu going to install fonts-symbola? LP: #1746310 | 21:38 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1746310 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Drop fonts-symbola from platform?" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746310 | 21:38 |
| acheronuk | jbicha: I need to review that as I've only briefly scanned the discussion | 21:41 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2 probably has a better idea at this pint than me | 21:41 |
| acheronuk | *point | 21:41 |
| jbicha | 🍺 | 21:42 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2 is too young for that sort of pint, but I'll have one :) | 21:45 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: install fonts-symbola> yes please | 21:48 |
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