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sil2100I heard something about daylight saving time in the US again, so I assume it might get things a bit complicated15:02
naccsil2100: yeah, we sprang forward an hour this weekend15:03
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sil2100#startmeeting DMB15:05
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sil2100#topic Review of previous action items15:05
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bdmurrayThere was that one about mapreri which was done.15:05
sil2100Ok15:06
sil2100I don't think we had anything else from the previous meeting?15:06
sil2100I didn't see anything15:06
sil2100(I cleaned up the agenda already)15:06
sil2100So, we basically don't have anything really on our agenda, there's the still-standing application of Simon for Qt uploaders15:07
sil2100Do we want to handle it today, or should we continue through e-mail?15:07
sil2100If by e-mail, I would say we should start asking questions and move on to voting this week15:07
sil2100Not sure if tsimonq2 is even around to answer our questions here (if we decide to do it of course)15:08
bdmurrayHe's updated his wiki page correct?15:08
rbasakYes - I can see what he has been sponsored for clearly now.15:08
sil2100Yes, that is my understanding15:09
rbasakIf he's here, I'm happy to proceed in this meeting.15:09
tsimonq2Barely. ;)15:09
tsimonq2Ask questions if you have them but reception isn't good here.15:09
sil2100#topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications15:10
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sil2100#subtopic Qt Uploaders for tsimonq215:10
sil2100The application, as a reminider: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq2/Applications/Qt5Uploader15:11
sil2100Questions?15:11
rbasakI have none. I'm ready to vote.15:14
bdmurrayI'm still looking at the updated app.15:14
* sil2100 needs to go AFK for 5 mins15:14
tsimonq2I need to go without a phone for ~ an hour starting in ~ 5 mins. Then it's my lunch hour, so I can answer questions over IRC if there any at that time.15:18
sil2100Back15:19
bdmurrayI'm ready15:21
cyphermoxready to vote as well15:21
sil2100Ok15:21
sil2100micahg: you good to vote as well?15:21
micahgsure15:22
tsimonq2Ahh, just when I need to go AFK. Sorry :(15:22
tsimonq2ttfn15:22
sil2100#vote Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq215:22
meetingologyPlease vote on: Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq215:22
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)15:22
rbasak+115:23
meetingology+1 received from rbasak15:23
rbasak(now that I understand the application :-)15:23
sil2100+1 (I have seen some of the work of Simon's on Qt transitions through Bileto and was happy with what was going on)15:23
meetingology+1 (I have seen some of the work of Simon's on Qt transitions through Bileto and was happy with what was going on) received from sil210015:23
bdmurray+115:24
meetingology+1 received from bdmurray15:24
micahg+115:24
meetingology+1 received from micahg15:24
cyphermox+115:25
meetingology+1 received from cyphermox15:25
sil2100#endvote15:25
meetingologyVoting ended on: Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq215:25
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:015:25
meetingologyMotion carried15:25
cyphermoxtsimonq2: congrats15:25
sil2100tsimonq2: congratulations!15:25
sil2100Making someone click a button in Bileto seems like not a big deal, but that also doesn't mean someone shouldn't get upload rights for the packages he/she is working on15:25
sil2100I'll add tsimonq2 to the right team in that case15:26
sil2100#action sil2100 to add tsimonq2 to the Ubuntu Qt5 Uploaders team15:27
meetingologyACTION: sil2100 to add tsimonq2 to the Ubuntu Qt5 Uploaders team15:27
sil2100#topic AOB15:27
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rbasakI see an email to devel-permission@ from darkxst.15:27
rbasakI think cyphermox was going to look into that?15:27
rbasakI don't see any other ML activity needing action; that's the only one.15:27
sil2100cyphermox: are you working on that?15:28
* sil2100 can't seem to find that e-mail15:28
jbichathe desktop-extra seed is poorly defined. I wonder if we should just encourage darkxst to apply for MOTU?15:28
rbasakDate: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:59:36 +110015:28
rbasakSubject: Loosing upload rights to some GNOME components15:28
jbichahttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/desktop-extra15:29
micahgshouldn't desktop-extra seed the packages in SUPPORTED that they want to maintain?15:29
jbichawe could try using the supported seed in ubuntu-gnome-meta and then kill desktop-extra15:30
cyphermoxrbasak: there is extra work needed, as mentioned by jbicha15:31
micahgwell, IIRC, desktop-extra was to give upload rights to ubuntu-desktop folks so they could also upload universe GNOME packages, if we wanted to extend ubuntu-gnome rights to them (or already are?) then there would be no need for the duplicate15:31
jbichait looks like ubuntu-desktop is already a member of ubuntu-gnome15:32
cyphermoxI think it will require a bit more investigation to figure out exactly what the best way to fix this is15:32
cyphermoxespecially given that tasksel needs a task to deal with too if you're indeed supposed to be able to install vanilla separately.15:33
rbasakDoes darkxst know the reason for the delay?15:34
jbichaI chatted with him then. His list isn't complete and there was the desktop-extra question15:35
jbichalet's follow up on the list then?15:35
rbasakPlease15:35
jbichaok, I'm replying there. End of meeting?15:38
sil2100What about the budgie packageset?15:39
sil2100Did that get solved?15:40
jbichasil2100: yes: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/ubuntu-budgie15:40
sil2100Excellent! I missed that completely15:41
sil2100Should we reach out to fossfreedom to move him to the packageset uploaders?15:41
rbasakHave we voted to make him an uploader of the packageset specifically?15:42
jbichasil2100: we said before that we'd need to have a separate vote for that :(15:42
cyphermoxthat's the process15:42
rbasakIIRC some board members had doubts about the whole packageset, but were OK with a subset.15:42
jbichamicahg: sorry, I was looking at the wrong page. ubuntu-desktop doesn't have upload rights for ubuntugnome but I don't object to that happening15:42
rbasakUnless I'm thinking of some other case.15:43
rbasakBut if so, then it's exactly what we wanted, rather than an unfortunate consequence of the process.15:43
sil2100Separate vote is fine15:43
cyphermoxwell, it's only an issue in the process because this is specifically a packageset made from a seed15:44
cyphermoxso there's some variation in what might be in the seed, leading to someone applying having more generic upload rights than if it was a packageset for just some tighly-defined set of packages15:44
cyphermoxie. budgie is not "qt5 only", it's anything that is needed for budgie minus what's in some other seeds such that it lands in core.15:45
sil2100I would have to compare the packageset and what PPU rights were actually given15:46
cyphermoxmaybe we can be nice to fossfreedom and start voting on an hypothetical application against the packageset as it is now?15:46
cyphermox(on the ML I mean)15:46
sil2100I wouldn't mind, seems a bit informal but sounds ok15:47
sil2100cyphermox: would you maybe send out an e-mail to the ML about this?15:47
cyphermoxwell, if we're to think it's not ready yet, then we can tell him what we expect.15:47
sil2100Ok, let's maybe finish the meeting15:48
rbasakDoes anyone have a link to his original application handy? I'd like to see the original endorsements etc.15:48
* sil2100 needs to AFK for some minutes again15:48
sil2100o/15:48
sil2100(you can continue here though!)15:48
sil2100#endmeeting15:48
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar 12 15:48:48 2018 UTC.15:48
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jbicharbasak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fossfreedom/UbuntuBudgieDevApplication15:51
rbasakThanks!15:51
jbicharbasak: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fossfreedom/budgie-extrasPPUApplication (which copies the previous endorsements and adds Simon)15:51
tsimonq2\o/16:21
tsimonq2Thank you sil2100 rbasak et. al!16:21
kokoye2007Hi19:54
kyrofaHey there :)19:58
kokoye2007Nice to meet ya again20:01
kyrofaLetozaf_, kenvandine you two around?20:05
kyrofaSounds like we're operating under capacity today20:05
kenvandinehey20:05
kenvandinei'm here ;)20:05
kenvandinejust trying to get caught up, still recovering from jet lag20:05
kyrofaHaha, yeah I bet20:06
Letozaf_here I am :)20:06
kyrofaSo there are only three of us today, but as long as we're unanimous we still represent the majority of the council20:08
kenvandineso that's a good question, you have a good point about if we are unanimous we are the majority20:08
kenvandinebut20:08
kenvandinehaving more input is good20:08
kyrofaOf course20:08
kenvandineso the questions raised by others could be good20:08
kyrofaAre you saying you'd like to wait until the others are available? Note that we have kokoye2007 from myanmar here today20:10
kenvandineok, maybe we should just go for it20:10
kyrofaSeems a tad unfair to push dates around because some of the council can't make it unless we can give a pretty decent heads up to folks on the agenda20:10
kenvandineyeah20:10
kenvandineagreed20:10
kenvandineand if we have representation here from the loco, we should make our best effort20:10
kyrofaLetozaf_, agreed?20:11
Letozaf_yes agreed20:11
kyrofaExcellent. kenvandine, feel like imposing your will on the bot today?20:11
kenvandineyes20:11
kenvandinelet me find my notes, 2 minutes20:11
kyrofaSure thing20:11
kenvandine#startmeeting LoCoCouncil 2018-03-1220:12
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kenvandineroll call20:12
kenvandinelet's note that gsilvapt and nhaines are not able to make the meeting this week20:13
kenvandinecouncil members please wave to record attendance20:13
* kyrofa waves20:13
* kenvandine waves20:13
Letozaf_carla waves20:13
Letozaf_he he sorry...20:13
kenvandine#topic MyanmarTeam20:14
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication201820:14
kenvandinekokoye2007, you are here to represent Myanmar?20:14
kyrofaUh oh :P20:16
thohime and kokoye here20:16
kyrofaHey there thohi20:16
Letozaf_o/20:16
thohiHi20:16
kyrofaThings seem much improved in the application this time around, thank you for updating it20:16
thohiThanks20:16
kyrofathohi, it claims your home page is ubuntu-mm.net, but that's a 404. Are you aware of this?20:17
kokoye2007 == You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For more information, visit http://dronebl.org/lookup?ip=121.54.164.11  Please contact proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. (2018/3/12 20.14) [02:44] == ERROR: Closing Link: ubuntu/member/kokoye2007 (K-Lined) [02:44] == Disconnected from server: Connection to IRC server lost.20:17
kokoye2007:320:17
kokoye2007sorry for dc20:17
kokoye2007our ip is blacklist again20:17
kyrofaOuch20:18
thohistill Ok from local20:18
kenvandine4 events already this year, that's great20:18
kyrofaAnd 2017 very nicely filled in20:19
kokoye2007sir @kenvandine20:19
kokoye20075 event ;)20:20
kokoye20072 Meeting20:20
kokoye2007i just add20:20
kyrofaMy only comment is the 404 homepage. I really have no questions, things look good from my perspective20:20
kokoye2007opps20:21
kokoye2007i upgrade SSL20:21
kenvandineah20:21
kenvandinehttps works :)20:21
kyrofaWell, without the www20:21
kyrofaMake the link https://ubuntu-mm.net and you're good20:22
kyrofaOtherwise you'll need to add www to the cert20:22
kokoye2007thanks20:23
kenvandineanyone else have questions for kokoye2007 or thohi?20:23
kokoye2007i forget www to ssl redir20:23
kyrofaNo more questions from me20:23
Letozaf_I have no questions20:23
kenvandine#vote MyanmarTeam re-verification20:23
meetingologyPlease vote on: MyanmarTeam re-verification20:23
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:23
kenvandine#voters Letozaf_ kenvandine kyrofa20:23
meetingologyCurrent voters: Letozaf_ kenvandine kyrofa20:23
kenvandine#votesrequired 320:23
meetingologyvotes now need 3 to be passed20:23
kenvandine+120:23
meetingology+1 received from kenvandine20:23
Letozaf_+120:23
meetingology+1 received from Letozaf_20:23
kyrofa+120:23
meetingology+1 received from kyrofa20:23
kenvandineexcellent!20:24
kenvandinethanks kokoye2007 and thohi!20:24
kyrofaThank you kokoye2007 and thohi for updating your application, and for being present today20:24
kokoye2007now also done www redirect20:24
kokoye2007thanks you so much20:24
thohiThanks to Council members20:24
kyrofa#endvote20:25
kyrofa:(20:26
kenvandine#endvote20:26
meetingologyVoting ended on: MyanmarTeam re-verification20:26
meetingologyVotes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:26
meetingologyMotion carried20:26
kenvandinesorry :)20:26
kenvandinei missed that part20:26
kyrofaHaha, no problem, I guess that only works if you're a chair20:26
kenvandineyeah20:26
kenvandinei thought since i added required votes it was automatic20:27
kenvandinei've updated MyanmarTeam's status in LP already20:27
kyrofaYeah you'd think so20:27
kokoye2007Thank sir20:27
kokoye2007any suggestion for ubuntu-mm ?20:27
kyrofaWe technically have SwissTeam on our agenda as well, shall we discuss them quickly just for the meeting minutes?20:28
kenvandinekyrofa, yes20:28
kenvandineso the bug has enough +1s to pass20:28
kyrofakokoye2007, only one: if you work to keep your pages up-to-date as you go, the re-verification app will be much easier20:28
kyrofakenvandine, want to update the topic for the minutes?20:29
kenvandinesure20:30
kenvandine#topic Re-verification, ubuntu-ch20:30
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kenvandineThere was a bug filed to track getting some questions answered20:31
kenvandinehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-locoteams/+bug/175054420:31
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1750544 not found20:31
kenvandinethat private though :)20:31
kyrofaYeah, timezones are different enough asynchronous seemed to be best20:32
kyrofaLong story short: the council voted to re-verify SwissTeam20:32
kenvandine3 votes in favor20:33
kenvandinekyrofa, did you vote?  maybe i missed your's in the comments20:33
kyrofakenvandine, I voted first! Haha20:33
kyrofaFour votes20:33
kenvandine4 :)20:33
kenvandineso it passes20:33
kenvandinecongratulations to the SwissTeam!20:33
kenvandinei guess that's it for this month20:35
kyrofaIndeed, if no one has any other business, that's it for our agenda20:35
kenvandinethanks everyone!20:35
kenvandine#endmeeting20:35
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar 12 20:35:38 2018 UTC.20:35
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Letozaf_bye20:35
Letozaf_o/20:35
kyrofakenvandine, mind updating SwissTeam's status while you're in there?20:36
kyrofaPerhaps you already did?20:36
kenvandinedone :)20:36
kenvandinelooking at the meeting logs now20:36
kyrofaSo fast20:36
kyrofaThanks kenvandine, Letozaf_20:36
Letozaf_yw20:37
kenvandineYou did not change the page content, not saved!20:39
kenvandinecreating the wiki page with the minutes20:39
kyrofaHmm...20:40
* kyrofa throws wiki out the window20:40
kenvandineok... starting from scratch fixed it20:40
kenvandineUpdated the wiki for next month's meeting20:42
kenvandinethanks all!20:42

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