=== maclin1 is now known as maclin === doko_ is now known as doko === maclin1 is now known as maclin [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:02] o/ [15:02] I heard something about daylight saving time in the US again, so I assume it might get things a bit complicated [15:03] sil2100: yeah, we sprang forward an hour this weekend [15:05] o/ [15:05] #startmeeting DMB [15:05] Meeting started Mon Mar 12 15:05:19 2018 UTC. The chair is sil2100. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:05] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: [15:05] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [15:05] There was that one about mapreri which was done. [15:06] Ok [15:06] I don't think we had anything else from the previous meeting? [15:06] I didn't see anything [15:06] (I cleaned up the agenda already) [15:07] So, we basically don't have anything really on our agenda, there's the still-standing application of Simon for Qt uploaders [15:07] Do we want to handle it today, or should we continue through e-mail? [15:07] If by e-mail, I would say we should start asking questions and move on to voting this week [15:08] Not sure if tsimonq2 is even around to answer our questions here (if we decide to do it of course) [15:08] He's updated his wiki page correct? [15:08] Yes - I can see what he has been sponsored for clearly now. [15:09] Yes, that is my understanding [15:09] If he's here, I'm happy to proceed in this meeting. [15:09] Barely. ;) [15:09] Ask questions if you have them but reception isn't good here. [15:10] #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications [15:10] #subtopic Qt Uploaders for tsimonq2 [15:11] The application, as a reminider: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq2/Applications/Qt5Uploader [15:11] Questions? [15:14] I have none. I'm ready to vote. [15:14] I'm still looking at the updated app. [15:14] * sil2100 needs to go AFK for 5 mins [15:18] I need to go without a phone for ~ an hour starting in ~ 5 mins. Then it's my lunch hour, so I can answer questions over IRC if there any at that time. [15:19] Back [15:21] I'm ready [15:21] ready to vote as well [15:21] Ok [15:21] micahg: you good to vote as well? [15:22] sure [15:22] Ahh, just when I need to go AFK. Sorry :( [15:22] ttfn [15:22] #vote Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq2 [15:22] Please vote on: Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq2 [15:22] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [15:23] +1 [15:23] +1 received from rbasak [15:23] (now that I understand the application :-) [15:23] +1 (I have seen some of the work of Simon's on Qt transitions through Bileto and was happy with what was going on) [15:23] +1 (I have seen some of the work of Simon's on Qt transitions through Bileto and was happy with what was going on) received from sil2100 [15:24] +1 [15:24] +1 received from bdmurray [15:24] +1 [15:24] +1 received from micahg [15:25] +1 [15:25] +1 received from cyphermox [15:25] #endvote [15:25] Voting ended on: Grant Qt Uploader PPU access to tsimonq2 [15:25] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [15:25] Motion carried [15:25] tsimonq2: congrats [15:25] tsimonq2: congratulations! [15:25] Making someone click a button in Bileto seems like not a big deal, but that also doesn't mean someone shouldn't get upload rights for the packages he/she is working on [15:26] I'll add tsimonq2 to the right team in that case [15:27] #action sil2100 to add tsimonq2 to the Ubuntu Qt5 Uploaders team [15:27] ACTION: sil2100 to add tsimonq2 to the Ubuntu Qt5 Uploaders team [15:27] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: AOB [15:27] I see an email to devel-permission@ from darkxst. [15:27] I think cyphermox was going to look into that? [15:27] I don't see any other ML activity needing action; that's the only one. [15:28] cyphermox: are you working on that? [15:28] * sil2100 can't seem to find that e-mail [15:28] the desktop-extra seed is poorly defined. I wonder if we should just encourage darkxst to apply for MOTU? [15:28] Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:59:36 +1100 [15:28] Subject: Loosing upload rights to some GNOME components [15:29] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/desktop-extra [15:29] shouldn't desktop-extra seed the packages in SUPPORTED that they want to maintain? [15:30] we could try using the supported seed in ubuntu-gnome-meta and then kill desktop-extra [15:31] rbasak: there is extra work needed, as mentioned by jbicha [15:31] well, IIRC, desktop-extra was to give upload rights to ubuntu-desktop folks so they could also upload universe GNOME packages, if we wanted to extend ubuntu-gnome rights to them (or already are?) then there would be no need for the duplicate [15:32] it looks like ubuntu-desktop is already a member of ubuntu-gnome [15:32] I think it will require a bit more investigation to figure out exactly what the best way to fix this is [15:33] especially given that tasksel needs a task to deal with too if you're indeed supposed to be able to install vanilla separately. [15:34] Does darkxst know the reason for the delay? [15:35] I chatted with him then. His list isn't complete and there was the desktop-extra question [15:35] let's follow up on the list then? [15:35] Please [15:38] ok, I'm replying there. End of meeting? [15:39] What about the budgie packageset? [15:40] Did that get solved? [15:40] sil2100: yes: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/ubuntu-budgie [15:41] Excellent! I missed that completely [15:41] Should we reach out to fossfreedom to move him to the packageset uploaders? [15:42] Have we voted to make him an uploader of the packageset specifically? [15:42] sil2100: we said before that we'd need to have a separate vote for that :( [15:42] that's the process [15:42] IIRC some board members had doubts about the whole packageset, but were OK with a subset. [15:42] micahg: sorry, I was looking at the wrong page. ubuntu-desktop doesn't have upload rights for ubuntugnome but I don't object to that happening [15:43] Unless I'm thinking of some other case. [15:43] But if so, then it's exactly what we wanted, rather than an unfortunate consequence of the process. [15:43] Separate vote is fine [15:44] well, it's only an issue in the process because this is specifically a packageset made from a seed [15:44] so there's some variation in what might be in the seed, leading to someone applying having more generic upload rights than if it was a packageset for just some tighly-defined set of packages [15:45] ie. budgie is not "qt5 only", it's anything that is needed for budgie minus what's in some other seeds such that it lands in core. [15:46] I would have to compare the packageset and what PPU rights were actually given [15:46] maybe we can be nice to fossfreedom and start voting on an hypothetical application against the packageset as it is now? [15:46] (on the ML I mean) [15:47] I wouldn't mind, seems a bit informal but sounds ok [15:47] cyphermox: would you maybe send out an e-mail to the ML about this? [15:47] well, if we're to think it's not ready yet, then we can tell him what we expect. [15:48] Ok, let's maybe finish the meeting [15:48] Does anyone have a link to his original application handy? I'd like to see the original endorsements etc. [15:48] * sil2100 needs to AFK for some minutes again [15:48] o/ [15:48] (you can continue here though!) [15:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:48] Meeting ended Mon Mar 12 15:48:48 2018 UTC. [15:48] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-03-12-15.05.moin.txt [15:51] rbasak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fossfreedom/UbuntuBudgieDevApplication [15:51] Thanks! [15:51] rbasak: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fossfreedom/budgie-extrasPPUApplication (which copies the previous endorsements and adds Simon) [16:21] \o/ [16:21] Thank you sil2100 rbasak et. al! [19:54] Hi [19:58] Hey there :) [20:01] Nice to meet ya again [20:05] Letozaf_, kenvandine you two around? [20:05] Sounds like we're operating under capacity today [20:05] hey [20:05] i'm here ;) [20:05] just trying to get caught up, still recovering from jet lag [20:06] Haha, yeah I bet [20:06] here I am :) [20:08] So there are only three of us today, but as long as we're unanimous we still represent the majority of the council [20:08] so that's a good question, you have a good point about if we are unanimous we are the majority [20:08] but [20:08] having more input is good [20:08] Of course [20:08] so the questions raised by others could be good [20:10] Are you saying you'd like to wait until the others are available? Note that we have kokoye2007 from myanmar here today [20:10] ok, maybe we should just go for it [20:10] Seems a tad unfair to push dates around because some of the council can't make it unless we can give a pretty decent heads up to folks on the agenda [20:10] yeah [20:10] agreed [20:10] and if we have representation here from the loco, we should make our best effort [20:11] Letozaf_, agreed? [20:11] yes agreed [20:11] Excellent. kenvandine, feel like imposing your will on the bot today? [20:11] yes [20:11] let me find my notes, 2 minutes [20:11] Sure thing [20:12] #startmeeting LoCoCouncil 2018-03-12 [20:12] Meeting started Mon Mar 12 20:12:37 2018 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:12] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | LoCoCouncil 2018-03-12 Meeting | Current topic: [20:12] roll call [20:13] let's note that gsilvapt and nhaines are not able to make the meeting this week [20:13] council members please wave to record attendance [20:13] * kyrofa waves [20:13] * kenvandine waves [20:13] carla waves [20:13] he he sorry... [20:14] #topic MyanmarTeam === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | LoCoCouncil 2018-03-12 Meeting | Current topic: MyanmarTeam [20:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication2018 [20:14] kokoye2007, you are here to represent Myanmar? [20:16] Uh oh :P [20:16] me and kokoye here [20:16] Hey there thohi [20:16] o/ [20:16] Hi [20:16] Things seem much improved in the application this time around, thank you for updating it [20:16] Thanks [20:17] thohi, it claims your home page is ubuntu-mm.net, but that's a 404. Are you aware of this? [20:17] == You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For more information, visit http://dronebl.org/lookup?ip=121.54.164.11 Please contact proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. (2018/3/12 20.14) [02:44] == ERROR: Closing Link: ubuntu/member/kokoye2007 (K-Lined) [02:44] == Disconnected from server: Connection to IRC server lost. [20:17] :3 [20:17] sorry for dc [20:17] our ip is blacklist again [20:18] Ouch [20:18] still Ok from local [20:18] 4 events already this year, that's great [20:19] And 2017 very nicely filled in [20:19] sir @kenvandine [20:20] 5 event ;) [20:20] 2 Meeting [20:20] i just add [20:20] My only comment is the 404 homepage. I really have no questions, things look good from my perspective [20:21] opps [20:21] i upgrade SSL [20:21] ah [20:21] https works :) [20:21] Well, without the www [20:22] Make the link https://ubuntu-mm.net and you're good [20:22] Otherwise you'll need to add www to the cert [20:23] thanks [20:23] anyone else have questions for kokoye2007 or thohi? [20:23] i forget www to ssl redir [20:23] No more questions from me [20:23] I have no questions [20:23] #vote MyanmarTeam re-verification [20:23] Please vote on: MyanmarTeam re-verification [20:23] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:23] #voters Letozaf_ kenvandine kyrofa [20:23] Current voters: Letozaf_ kenvandine kyrofa [20:23] #votesrequired 3 [20:23] votes now need 3 to be passed [20:23] +1 [20:23] +1 received from kenvandine [20:23] +1 [20:23] +1 received from Letozaf_ [20:23] +1 [20:23] +1 received from kyrofa [20:24] excellent! [20:24] thanks kokoye2007 and thohi! [20:24] Thank you kokoye2007 and thohi for updating your application, and for being present today [20:24] now also done www redirect [20:24] thanks you so much [20:24] Thanks to Council members [20:25] #endvote [20:26] :( [20:26] #endvote [20:26] Voting ended on: MyanmarTeam re-verification [20:26] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:26] Motion carried [20:26] sorry :) [20:26] i missed that part [20:26] Haha, no problem, I guess that only works if you're a chair [20:26] yeah [20:27] i thought since i added required votes it was automatic [20:27] i've updated MyanmarTeam's status in LP already [20:27] Yeah you'd think so [20:27] Thank sir [20:27] any suggestion for ubuntu-mm ? [20:28] We technically have SwissTeam on our agenda as well, shall we discuss them quickly just for the meeting minutes? [20:28] kyrofa, yes [20:28] so the bug has enough +1s to pass [20:28] kokoye2007, only one: if you work to keep your pages up-to-date as you go, the re-verification app will be much easier [20:29] kenvandine, want to update the topic for the minutes? [20:30] sure [20:30] #topic Re-verification, ubuntu-ch === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | LoCoCouncil 2018-03-12 Meeting | Current topic: Re-verification, ubuntu-ch [20:31] There was a bug filed to track getting some questions answered [20:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-locoteams/+bug/1750544 [20:31] Error: launchpad bug 1750544 not found [20:31] that private though :) [20:32] Yeah, timezones are different enough asynchronous seemed to be best [20:32] Long story short: the council voted to re-verify SwissTeam [20:33] 3 votes in favor [20:33] kyrofa, did you vote? maybe i missed your's in the comments [20:33] kenvandine, I voted first! Haha [20:33] Four votes [20:33] 4 :) [20:33] so it passes [20:33] congratulations to the SwissTeam! [20:35] i guess that's it for this month [20:35] Indeed, if no one has any other business, that's it for our agenda [20:35] thanks everyone! [20:35] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:35] Meeting ended Mon Mar 12 20:35:38 2018 UTC. [20:35] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-03-12-20.12.moin.txt [20:35] bye [20:35] o/ [20:36] kenvandine, mind updating SwissTeam's status while you're in there? [20:36] Perhaps you already did? [20:36] done :) [20:36] looking at the meeting logs now [20:36] So fast [20:36] Thanks kenvandine, Letozaf_ [20:37] yw [20:39] You did not change the page content, not saved! [20:39] creating the wiki page with the minutes [20:40] Hmm... [20:40] * kyrofa throws wiki out the window [20:40] ok... starting from scratch fixed it [20:42] Updated the wiki for next month's meeting [20:42] thanks all!