[00:00] <UserUS> Anyone install a Display Link driver for usb to hdmi here?
[00:00] <vfw> on3pk: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:00] <UserUS> 16 LTS
[00:02] <on3pk> vfw, some weird minimal version setup by my host
[00:08] <dnter> hello
[00:08] <dnter> can I ask how to run a gui apps (GNS3) inside the LXD ?
[00:12] <on3pk> ok.  I might use centos, because that can complete the update
[00:12] <on3pk> Yikes
[00:14] <Nokaji> vfw: Hiyas, .... juat wanted to say a big THANKS, opted for WiFi File Transfer and it is by far the easiest, which means I will use it way more often too :)
[00:15] <Nokaji> I won't ping Jeremy_31 in case he is busy but thanks to you too (actually seems he's moved on)
[00:19] <PhazonicRidley> hello, i just installed xubuntu and was wondering how to activate the wifi menu
[00:30] <arooni> id like to write some blogs posts;  is vim a good editor for that or are there better options
[00:30] <TemperedSoul> hey whats up
[00:31] <TemperedSoul> I have an ubuntu question
[00:31] <Butterfly_> just ask
[00:32] <TemperedSoul> thanks... so i just downloaded the newest .iso and installed Ubuntu into a vm using Virtual Box... When I added a pgp key using seahorse aka password n keys, i had to export my key to add it into gpg.  arnt they supposed to be linked?
[00:33] <operator-error> Does anyone know when 18.04 will be coming out (roughly)?
[00:33] <Butterfly_> operator-error : may/june i believe
[00:33] <vlt> operator-error: In 04-2018
[00:34] <Butterfly_> oh earlier
[00:34] <operator-error> Cool.  Thanks.
[00:34] <Bashing-om> operator-error: Yhe hint is in the relese designation .. 18.04 == April (04) of 2018 - somtime .
[00:34] <Butterfly_> oh lol, never realized that :D
[00:35] <operator-error> Bashing-om: Doh!  I actually had no idea that the ".04" referred to a date. :)
[00:35] <Bashing-om> operator-error: Just goes to show, there is a lot to learn ... and believe me ..none of us know it all .
[00:36] <Butterfly_> the strength of a community is the combined knowledge of all it's members :)
[00:37] <Bashing-om> Butterfly_: Shared knowledge .. closed source systems are not as much fun :)
[00:39] <Butterfly_> true :)
[00:39] <TemperedSoul> anyone know why openpgp wont work in ubuntu's newest release
[00:40] <TemperedSoul> anyone
[00:40] <TemperedSoul> bueller
[00:49] <Zythyr> Need help starting a service after decrypting a partition. My service is NOT starting. More details here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1013627/how-to-automatically-start-a-service-after-manually-decrypting-home-partition
[00:59] <MeaCulpa> someone was illegally using my nick I hope they weren't in here behaving poorly
[01:00] <MeaCulpa> or even worse than I :)
[01:19] <donofrio_> How would I heal my ssh keys?  https://apaste.info/yjmF right now I cannot ssh to localhost ;(
[02:04] <bcpoi> hello
[02:05] <bcpoi> everytime I search on firefox there is something on the end on the address bar which is the '&t=canonical&ia=web'
[02:05] <bcpoi> what does it mean?
[02:07] <operator-error> bcpoi: probably means canonical is spying on you :)
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !fud | operator-error
[02:08] <cfhowlett> t=canonical is a partner tag that allows Ubuntu to generate revenue from searches on DuckDuckGo that use Ubuntu (anonymously)
[02:09] <cfhowlett> &ia=web - the ia is short for "instant access"
[02:09] <bcpoi> what does it mean? that i'm not secured?
[02:10] <cfhowlett> nothing to do with security.  it's an anonymous tag
[02:11] <operator-error> cfhowlett: has that something to do with running the Unity desktop?  Because I'm using Kubuntu, and I get no such "canonical" tag in my search results in DuckDuckGo.
[02:12] <cfhowlett> nothing to do with unity at all.  it's browswer generated and is generated by ALL browsers
[02:12] <cfhowlett> but I'll verify DDG
[02:13] <operator-error> yeah, because I'm using stock firefox from the repository (in KDE) and I'm not getting that tag
[02:15] <cfhowlett> huh.  Ubuntustudio 16.04 + DDG = https://duckduckgo.com/?q=peace+love+harmony&t=canonical&ia=web
[02:15] <cfhowlett> FFox + DDG search engine
[02:16] <bcpoi> cfhowlett how can I disable that?
[02:16] <operator-error> hmm... I'm using 16.04 Kubuntu and here's the result I get searching mittens:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mittens&t=hg&ia=web
[02:17] <Ben64> operator-error: are you typing 'mittens' directly into the address bar
[02:17] <operator-error> Ben64: no, I'm typing it in the search bar on the page
[02:17] <Ben64> well that's not what was being discussed
[02:18] <cfhowlett> not sure you can disable according to this.  https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-764c461fa18fbd81ce6413de57d7b423
[02:18] <operator-error> ahh, now when I type my search in the address bar I get:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mittens&t=canonical&ia=web
[02:19] <cfhowlett> in any case, as the info being passed is anonymized ... ?
[02:37] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:32] <paris> hi
[04:09] <zzo38> How to get bold Japanese text to display correctly on Firefox? It displays correctly if it isn't bold.
[04:10] <Butterfly_> zzo38 : are you running the latest firefox ?
[04:13] <zzo38> Butterfly_: No, the extensions I want to use will not work in the latest Firefox
[04:13] <Butterfly_> which extension is that ?
[04:13] <Butterfly_> maybe there's an alternative that does work with the latest firefox
[04:13] <zzo38> All of them; userChrome.js is one
[04:13] <Butterfly_> i had to change some extensions myself in the last few months, but some extensions were even better than the original i was using
[04:14] <Butterfly_> zzo38 : doesn't User-Agent Switcher do the same ?
[04:15] <zzo38> There is also Classic Theme Restorer, OverbiteFF (although it has some problems and I should write my own), Status-4-Evar, etc
[04:15] <Butterfly_> there is OverbiteWX ? maybe something similar ?
[04:15] <zzo38> And, no, User-Agent Switcher is not the same as userChrome.js. However, the Rewrite HTTP Headers extension (which I also have) does the same as User-Agent Switcher (and more).
[04:16] <Butterfly_> right
[04:16] <Butterfly_> i guess you have too many extensions to actually make the switch to latest firefox :)
[04:16] <Butterfly_> not sure if your firefox issue is a bug that has been resolved in newer versions ?
[04:16] <Butterfly_> which site did you have this problem on? maybe i can have a look
[04:18] <zzo38> Butterfly_: Wikipedia, although it applies to any bold Japanese text displayed by Firefox as far as I can tell. If the text is copied and pasted into the location bar or something else that isn't bold, it displays correctly.
[04:18] <Butterfly_> let me find a page
[04:18] <zzo38> The problem is only with bold Japanese text; non-bold Japanese text and bold non-Japanese text both work correctly.
[04:21] <Butterfly_> i don't really see much strange in wikipedia in japanese, although i don't know japanese, so i might not spot what you're spotting
[04:24] <jas_> hey
[04:24] <zzo38> Do you have any Japanese fonts installed? I think the problem might be with the fonts.
[04:25] <Butterfly_> zzo38 : it seems to display correctly, i didn't install additional fonts, but it seems perfectly japanese to me
[04:26] <jas_> So the unity dm doesn't seem to start upon system boot. I don't know what's causing it. For now, i'm launching folders and the browser using the terminal. I'm not able to move the windows using the cursor too. Do I have to restart any service or are there any other options?
[04:26] <Butterfly_> i'm using Linux Mint though, not Ubuntu
[04:28] <jas_> hello?
[04:29] <zzo38> Butterfly_: Do you know anything about how it decides what fonts to use?
[04:29] <Butterfly_> zzo38 : not entirely to be honest
[04:30] <zzo38> jas_: I don't know; I don't use Unity. But if you can't move windows, that suggest perhaps the window manager is not installed or is not configured.
[04:30] <EriC^> jas_: does the guest account work?
[04:30] <zzo38> (Although the window manager ought to be installed by default)
[04:30] <jas_> EriC^: Yes, it does.
[04:31] <EriC^^> jas_: try "dconf reset -f /org/compiz"
[04:31] <EriC^^> jas_: and "rm ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1"
[04:32] <jas_> EriC^^: crap! i'm not able to move to the terminal. lemme log back in.
[04:34] <zzo38> You can also push CTRL+ALT+F2 or another function key to login to the text screen (and then CTRL+ALT+F8, or possibly a different function key on your computer, switches back to the X windows)
[04:36] <jas_> Hey EriC^^
[04:37] <jas_> It seems it is a directory
[04:38] <EriC^^> jas_: oh, yeah, type "rm -r ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1"
[04:38] <zzo38> You can also push CTRL+ALT+F2 or another function key to login to the text screen (and then CTRL+ALT+F8, or possibly a different function key on your computer, switches back to X Windows). You can see if that works
[04:38] <zzo38> (Although you would still have to restart it probably in order for the changes to take effect)
[04:39] <jas_> EriC^^: you want me to delete the compiz dir and config/compiz-1 dir?
[04:39] <EriC^^> jas_: yeah
[04:40] <jas_> Fine
[04:40] <EriC^^> jas_: did you tr dconf reset -f /org/compiz /
[04:40] <EriC^^> jas_: did you tr dconf reset -f /org/compiz ?
[04:40] <jas_> Done
[04:41] <jas_> EriC^^: yes I've done the dconf step first and then I deleted the two files
[04:41] <EriC^^> jas_: ok try logging back in
[04:42] <jas_> Ok
[04:43] <jas_> EriC^^: nope it doesn't seem to work.
[04:44] <donofrio> anyone got an idea of how I can fix this ssh issue? https://apaste.info/yjmF
[04:44] <EriC^^> jas_: try "mv ~/.cache ~/.cache.old"
[04:45] <EriC^^> jas_: also "mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.old"
[04:45] <jas_> .cache is a folder
[04:47] <jas_> EriC^^: it's a folder you want me to move the folder
[04:48] <EriC^^> jas_: yes
[04:48] <EriC^^> essentially renaming it
[04:48] <jas_> So rename the .cache folder to .cache folder to cache.old?
[04:49] <mau> hello.
[04:50] <mau> I have an partition that is mounted at ~/development but I have to chown each time I boot. Is there any work-around?
[04:50] <jas_> EriC^^: Done both the cache and the gconf
[04:51] <EriC^^> donofrio: seems like the private key is invalid cause it's attempting to offer it as public key
[04:52] <donofrio> EriC^^, howto fix?
[04:52] <EriC^^> mau: what filesystem is it?
[04:52] <EriC^^> jas_: try to login again
[04:52] <donofrio> hu?
[04:54] <donofrio> EriC^^, hu?
[04:55] <EriC^^> donofrio: did you add the public key to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file?
[04:56] <donofrio> Not done anything yet
[04:56] <EriC^^> donofrio: ok, type "ssh-copy-id localhost"
[04:58] <mau> EriC^^, ext4. Apparently that seem to be the problem
[04:58] <jas_> EriC^^: Thanks a lot mate! It worked. Is there anything else I should do after this? And what might have caused the problem.?
[04:58] <EriC^^> mau: no, that shouldn't be a problem ext4 uses permissions
[04:58] <EriC^^> mau: are you certain it's ext4?
[04:59] <donofrio> EriC^^, https://apaste.info/iupp
[05:00] <EriC^^> jas_: no problem, nah you should be good, no idea to be honest
[05:00] <jas_>  EriC^^: fine, thanks again
[05:01] <Draconiator> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/seagate-unveils-60tb-ssd-the-worlds-largest-hard-drive/ - Yeesh, this probably would sell for 50 grand.
[05:01] <EriC^^> donofrio: try "cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[05:01] <mau> EriC^^: I formatted it as ext4 and Disks confirms that it's ext4. When I try to use uid=1000,gid=1000I get "bad options"
[05:02] <EriC^^> mau: yeah, ext4 saves the permissions
[05:02] <mau> EriC^^: then I don't understand what I'm supposed to do
[05:03] <EriC^^> mau: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:03] <EriC^^> mau: with the filesystem mounted, sudo chown -R <user>: /mountpoint should change the permissions, and upon unmounting and remounting they'll stick
[05:04] <mau> EriC^^: oh, I didn't know that
[05:04] <mau> EriC^^: then I'll be fine
[05:04] <mau> EriC^^: I misunderstood what I read on the web and what you told me
[05:05] <mau> EriC^^: thanks for your patience
[05:05] <EriC^^> mau: no problem
[05:05] <mau> EriC^^: :-)
[05:05] <EriC^^> :)
[05:05] <donofrio> EriC^^, https://apaste.info/HAs5
[05:07] <EriC^^> donofrio: type "chmod 750 ~" and "chmod 700 ~/.ssh" and "chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[05:08] <EriC^^> donofrio: try again with "ssh localhost -vvv" if it doesn't work and paste the output
[05:11] <donofrio> EriC^^, https://apaste.info/ys7M
[05:13] <EriC^^> donofrio: my bad, type "rm ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[05:13] <EriC^^> donofrio: we should copy the public key not private one
[05:13] <EriC^^> donofrio: type "cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[05:13] <EriC^^> "chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[05:15] <donofrio> that worked
[05:16] <EriC^^> great
[05:16] <xeon> hi is anyone on?
[05:17] <donofrio> EriC^^, thank you for your time
[05:17] <xeon> sorry haha?
[05:18] <EriC^^> donofrio: no problem
[05:19] <u0_a114> exit
[05:21] <riza> hi
[05:22] <donofrio> EriC^^, the reason I wanted to get ssh is cause I thought this I needed this to resolve this issue but nope ;( https://apaste.info/Akyj
[05:23] <Guest73> hi when I open raw images in Ubuntu(default image viewer, darktable), it has reddish tint. It works fine with lightzone and in windows(lightroom). How do I fix it?
[05:32] <Guest73> Please let me know if anybody finds the solution to the problem.
[05:32] <donofrio> anyone know of a fix for this ipc message
[05:36] <GizmoRomick> Could I get some help please?  I re-installed openmediavault on my NAS, and now when I try to connect over SMB/CIFS, I get Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused.  Any idea why that would be?  The configuration is pretty close as far as I can tell
[05:45] <donofrio> anyone know how I can get add-repo working I keep getting this gpg message - https://apaste.info/yb2I
[05:56] <Guest73> more problems, less solution... :(
[06:13] <tardis_travler> hello
[06:15] <tardis_travler> helo
[06:25] <djdduty> Is there any way with gnome 3 on 17.10 to get different wallpapers on each monitor?
[06:25] <djdduty> Online only suggests using nitrogen but it doesn't seem to have a monitor option when using gnome 3
[06:30] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to make an edit to my kernel.configuration file but i can't find it in my system in what folder would it be located
[06:32] <ghostnik11> is kconfig the same thing as kernel .config
[06:32] <ghostnik11> please i am trying to patch something into my kernel
[06:33] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, the config file for kernels installed from the repositories are in /boot
[06:33] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, thats where i will find it will look now but i am looking for kernel .config
[06:34] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, config-4.13.1-...generic should be it correct?
[06:35] <segersjerry> check with uname -a
[06:36] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, yeah i found it bro, thanks a lot now i can change the config_i2c and pmw values
[06:37] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, :)
[06:55] <ghostnik11> okay i have made the changes in my kernel configuration file located in boot. how can i check that its working? in terminal do i need to run a command to restart computer or tell it that i made changes to the kernel configuration file. should i just reboot?
[06:57] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, not 100% sure, but I think you would have to use it to compile a new kernel for the changes to do anything. You probably want to change something in /proc to make it work the way you're talking
[06:59] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, these are the steps i am following: https://github.com/Asus-T100/kernel/wiki/Compiling-the-kernel-for-T100TAF
[07:00] <ghostnik11> i segersjerry the section for screen brightness and power savings, i made my hex and also made the changes to the kernel configuartion file and just installed iio-sensor-proxy via synaptic
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> we dont reccomend compiling, use !mainline instead
[07:01] <segersjerry> !mainline
[07:03] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, yeah but this is for a specific 2 in 1 tablet = asus t100taf would kernel mainline builds have the changes i am trying to do already in kernels for this particular 2 in 1 tablet segersjerry
[07:03] <segersjerry> lotuspsychje, thanks. ghostnik11 there you go, try the latest kernel, but to follow those instructions you have to compile the kernel and patch it
[07:04] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, possibly, I would try it.
[07:05] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, yeah i am at the last step now which is to compile as i made all the other steps just need to compile then possilbe patch it for auto screen brightness and i should get amazing battery life and power saving
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: is this machine arm based?
[07:05] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, no its an intel but a baytrail cpu
[07:13] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, lotuspsychje say i wanted to grab from the main line do i just run it through terminal or is it easier from the website to get the kernel?
[07:13] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, no clue here.
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | ghostnik11
[07:14] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, yeah but now i want to grab one of the main line kernels? like i want to download it to my system
[07:15] <ZaZaQ> hey
[07:16] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, would this work sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.95... etc?
[07:19] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, i needed the wget command
[07:20] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, it looks to me like you want to grab whichever .deb file and install it manually with dpkg or gdebi
[07:21] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, well i want the kernel 4.9.54 file b/c from the google plus group they say 4.9 kernels work best with this particular 2 in 1 asus tablet
[07:22] <nsei> hi guys
[07:23] <ZaZaQ> hi nsei
[07:24] <JimBuntu> heya
[07:24] <ZaZaQ> whats up
[07:24] <JimBuntu> not much, up a little bit early, you
[07:24] <JimBuntu> ?
[07:24] <ZaZaQ> just bored
[07:24] <ZaZaQ> i just downloaded hexchat
[07:24] <ZaZaQ> it seems good
[07:25] <JimBuntu> Yeah, I feel the boredom bug a bit often... hobbies help
[07:25] <ZaZaQ> lol like ubuntu?
[07:25] <JimBuntu> ZaZaQ, I prefer XChat, although, it's been a while since I compared
[07:26] <EgoAleSum> hi, when using cloud-init with Ubuntu, how can I install a DEB package from a URL? (not in a repo)
[07:26] <ZaZaQ> Well, i used irssi
[07:26] <JimBuntu> I meant hobbies like archery or a garden... Gentoo if so inclines ;-)
[07:26] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, I would try the latest 4.9.x and the latest non -rc version overall before I tried compiling my own.
[07:26] <ZaZaQ> oh ic
[07:26] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, yeah i will do that now but i need to grab it with wget first
[07:26] <ZaZaQ> well the fork of xchat is hexchat :P
[07:27] <ZaZaQ> because xchat doesnt get updated
[07:27] <ghostnik11>  wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.54/^Cnux-headers-4.9.54-040954_4.9.54-040954.201711052237_all.deb does that look legit?
[07:27] <Amm0n> xchat is dead since 2010
[07:28] <ZaZaQ> yeah
[07:28] <JimBuntu> Amm0n, not true... the version I use was updated in 2014
[07:29] <ZaZaQ> brb
[07:29] <JimBuntu> I do admit it is currently "discontinued"
[07:29] <Amm0n> last official release is from 2010, dunno what version you got
[07:29] <JimBuntu> Version 2.8.8
[07:29] <JimBuntu> Which is from 2010
[07:29] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, that command didn't work to get a 4.9.x kernel
[07:30] <EgoAleSum> when using cloud-init with Ubuntu, how can I install a DEB package from a URL? (not in a repo)
[07:30] <JimBuntu> EgoAleSum, Do you mean like... dpkg --install <filename> ?
[07:31] <ZaZaQ> i'm back
[07:31] <JimBuntu> wb ZaZaQ
[07:31] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, is there some reason you are stopping at 4.9.54? 4.9 goes up to 87
[07:31] <EgoAleSum> JimBuntu: yes, where do you put it in cloud-init? under runcmd? or is there a better way to do that (e.g. in the packages section)
[07:31] <ZaZaQ> i'm using irssi now
[07:32] <JimBuntu> Note: I am only partially awake,, and only a partially intelligent bot.
[07:32] <ZaZaQ> what kind of hobbies you have?
[07:32] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, okay thats cool, but i am trying to find a command for the 4.9.87 so i can get it and the wget command i ran didn't work
[07:32] <ZaZaQ> I'm using the Ubuntu 18.04 beta
[07:33] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, ok, you're intel I remember, are you 32 or 64 bit?
[07:33] <JimBuntu> ZaZaQ, for 18.04, I would prefer #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, its a 64 bit
[07:33] <ZaZaQ> you mean room?
[07:34] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, I think you want wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.87/linux-headers-4.9.87-040987-generic_4.9.87-040987.201803111631_amd64.deb
[07:35] <segersjerry> oops, no
[07:35] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, i just downloaded that using terminal but i need also 2 more
[07:35] <ghostnik11> header and the image, i think segersjerry
[07:36] <necm> hi
[07:36] <ShriHari> hi necm
[07:36] <necm> hey is there anyone american?
[07:36] <necm> i  live in montana
[07:36] <ZaZaQ> where is montana?
[07:36] <segersjerry> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.87/linux-headers-4.9.87-040987_4.9.87-040987.201803111631_all.deb  and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.87/linux-image-4.9.87-040987-generic_4.9.87-040987.201803111631_amd64.deb  seem to complete the set. I've never done this before though
[07:37] <JimBuntu> necm, yes
[07:37] <ShriHari> wassup necm from montana ?
[07:37] <necm> ZaZaQ: USA
[07:37] <necm> nort side
[07:37] <necm> north side
[07:37] <necm> in billings
[07:37] <ZaZaQ> oh its near idaho
[07:38] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, thanks bro
[07:38] <necm> hey dude what u doing over there
[07:38] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, glad to help.
[07:38] <necm> ZaZaQ
[07:38] <necm> JimBuntu: are u in montana?
[07:39] <JimBuntu> nacc, I am not in Montana :-/
[07:39] <ZaZaQ> i live in California
[07:40] <necm> cool city.ým in fucking getto man
[07:40] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, on the mainline page for 4.9.87 it says to apply the patches from top order: do i need to do that or what i just downloaded will have the changes made already
[07:41] <segersjerry> the .debs already have that
[07:41] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, ^
[07:42] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, okay and hopefully once i install kernel and restart stuff like powersaver and auto screen brightness should work?
[07:43] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, right, if not I'd try latest before the -rc versions (release candidate)
[07:43] <ShriHari> hi
[07:44] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, the only other thing is that i don't have grub properly working. i get booted to a grub that is with uefi or something like that. is there a way that i can set grub as default, i did make changes in grub.cfg
[07:44] <segersjerry> ghostnik11, that is black magic to me, sorry.
[07:46] <ZaZaQ> hih shrihari
[07:49] <ZaZaQ> oh room is quiet now
[07:54] <rts-sander> hey my computer froze on friday evening, had to hold the power button to forcefully reboot it this morning
[07:54] <ZaZaQ> ok
[07:55] <rts-sander> in /var/log/syslog lines stopped appearing at that time, where else to look what happened?
[07:55] <ShriHari> rts-sander :  /var/log/deug
[07:55] <ShriHari> debug
[07:56] <rts-sander> /var/log/debug: No such file or directory
[07:59] <ShriHari> rts ?
[08:01] <ghostnik11> segersjerry, hey i did everything will restart and see if i will have grub back to normal and be booted into 4.9.87 kernel. thanks for everything
[08:01] <segersjerry> I'll be here
[08:01] <segersjerry> good luck
[08:02] <rts-sander> ShriHari,  /var/log/debug: No such file or directory
[08:02] <ZaZaQ> is 4.9.87 a beta kernel?
[08:02] <rts-sander> ShriHari, I don't seem to be having the file
[08:02] <ShriHari> rts .. ok
[08:02] <segersjerry> ZaZaQ, It's the latest 4.9 from mainline
[08:03] <ZaZaQ> oh ok
[08:04] <rts-sander> also looked at /var/log/kern but learned nothing
[08:04] <rts-sander> maybe a freak accident?
[08:04] <ShriHari> grep for that time in /var/log/*
[08:09] <ZaZaQ> i'm watching mr. robot
[08:10] <Butterfly_> which season ZaZaQ ?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ZaZaQ Butterfly_
[08:11] <ShriHari> !ot | ZaZaQ Butterfly_
[08:12] <JimBuntu> ZaZaQ, come on over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:12] <netochka> I'm looking for a platform or app that has both features of a cloud space and also the option to add users who can manage the data on it or leave notes. a blockchain concept or something like that. and also security and encryption is a factor of importance
[08:13] <rts-sander> ShriHari, I'm only seeing auth.log and syslog
[08:13] <JimBuntu> netochka, check #linux, please don't limit yourself to #ubuntu
[08:13] <rts-sander> ah well it's the first this happened in 2 years so I'm dropping it
[08:13] <netochka> JimBuntu: Ty. will do
[08:14] <JimBuntu> netochka, I fogot, it's ##linux
[08:14] <Mava> what might be the issue: my 11Tb local SAS storage is seen as 1.1Tb by fdisk  ?
[08:14] <netochka> aha. ok
[08:15] <netochka> JimBuntu: the issue i wrote is for #ubuntu offtopic.. right?
[08:16] <JimBuntu> It could be... it's up to you netochka. I would suggest ##linux as there is no need to limit yourself to Ubuntu as a distro
[08:16] <netochka> Got it. Thanks.
[08:19] <_Marek_> id like to ask about mdadm and ubuntu live install - i had 4 disks as raid5 starting with sda
[08:19] <_Marek_> sda sdb sdc sdd
[08:19] <_Marek_> during installation ubuntu accidentally picked sda instead of sdf
[08:19] <_Marek_> does ubuntu automatically recognize its a raid disk or did it just wipe one disk?
[08:48] <vlt> _Marek_: `blkid` or `lsblk` might tell you.
[08:49] <vlt> Mava: What does `blockdev --getsize64 /dev/your_device` say?
[08:55] <Mava> vlt: 1.2 tb seems. quite odd
[09:08] <Frankfurt_Soup> Hi guys just wondering, i have just done a fresh install of ubuntu server and on reboot the system is sitting at a black screen with just a flashing white cursor is that normal?
[09:10] <fishie> my system date keeps resetting a few seconds after I change it. How do I stop that? I'm using Xubuntu.
[09:12] <fishie> crap. I knew there was a synch option before. the help menu shows it but my actual settings menu doesn't have one.
[09:13] <fishie> ah. it's there under "configuration". mine was already set to manual.
[09:14] <pmppars> test
[09:14] <pmppars> chanel
[09:19] <fishie> uhg. I can't find anything in a web search. except stuff about using it with like a VM or dual-booting with Windows, neither of which applies to me.
[09:33] <pagios_> hello everyyone, i am a developer and i would like to specialize n backend development. Specifically in how to write APIs in a correct,stable,correct way. I would like to understand how to architect my backend so that it can accomodate lot of client traffic as well as getcorrectly integrated with other API gateway for third party cloud providers. Do you recommend any nice book to read about architecting APIs on the backend?
[09:33] <pagios_> Thank you for your time
[09:35] <ducasse> pagios: that's not an ubuntu question, try a development channel
[09:45] <Frankfurt_Soup> Guys whats a nice easy desktop to use with ubuntu server?
[09:48] <guiverc> Frankfurt_Soup, no DE is lighter, and best in my opinion for servers. ssh into the box is quick, any graphic gui (esp. if decent resolution) just wastes bandwidth & slows ability to do anything
[09:48] <_Marek_> thanks vlt :)
[09:49] <guiverc> (by no DE I meant no gui)
[09:49] <Frankfurt_Soup> Guiverc i see your point and i will mostly be admining the server from my phone via ssh but im still sorta new to linux so i guess a de is just my security blanket lol but yeah ill se how i go with just cli for now
[09:50] <guiverc> the lightest mainstream DE is LXDE, above that is XFCE ... then there is a larger jump..  openbox & others can be lighter than LXDE but are less mainstream (subjective!)
[09:51] <guiverc> gnome, kde, (even MATE now it is GTK+3) are heaver; mate is still slightly lighter though
[09:52] <guiverc> (above meaning heavier, but maybe more features... - heaviest are mainstream gnome/kde..)
[09:52] <Frankfurt_Soup> I think my main issue is file browsing but i guess i need to learn how to do it all in cli so now would be a great time to start
[09:52] <vlt> Frankfurt_Soup: Have a look at "mc".
[09:52] <guest-2JnRBG> привет чики
[09:53] <guest-2JnRBG> ))
[09:53] <Frankfurt_Soup> Guiverc thanks for the help
[09:53] <guiverc> I have installed GUI's on some of mine, and have configured them so by default only CLI boots; but a change of runlevel enables gui ..
[09:53] <Frankfurt_Soup> Mc? Is that another de?
[09:53] <guiverc> (some of mine being home servers..)
[09:53] <guest-2JnRBG> hellow guys
[09:54] <Frankfurt_Soup> Hi guest-2JnRBG
[09:54] <ducasse> Frankfurt_Soup: mc is a terminal-based file browser, ranger is another one
[09:54] <Frankfurt_Soup> Ducasse ahh ok cool ill look in to them thanks
[09:54] <vlt> Frankfurt_Soup: mc stands for Midnight Commander, a file browser.
[09:54] <atif5> hi
[09:55] <atif5> any human here
[09:55] <guest-2JnRBG> hi man do you wonna some blue things with me??
[09:55] <guest-2JnRBG> GachaSquad
[09:55] <atif5> can any one help me
[09:55] <atif5> i am new to irc
[09:55] <Frankfurt_Soup> Vlt ok yeah i have heard of that then lol i think i tried it a little while back before the server got shut down
[09:56] <guiverc> Frankfurt_Soup, if you're old like me - mc=midnight commander (old dos based file.man)
[09:56] <vlt> atif5: Usually on IRC you ask your actual question and wait. If someone can help they will answer.
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> why ALL ignores me?????
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> PLS
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> PLS
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> PSL
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> P[SL\P
[09:57] <guest-2JnRBG> PSL
[09:57] <ikonia> stop
[09:58] <guiverc> atif5, if you have a ubuntu question; please just ask it.  if someone knows the answers, they'll reply.
[09:58] <Frankfurt_Soup> Guiverc is it just the mc-data package? I just did sudo apt install mc and thats what it found
[09:59] <atif5> i am thinking about switching to ubuntu
[09:59] <atif5> from windows to ubuntu
[09:59] <ducasse> Frankfurt_Soup: the package should just be called 'mc'
[10:00] <guest-2JnRBG> S;
[10:00] <guest-2JnRBG> S;
[10:00] <guest-2JnRBG> S;
[10:00] <guest-2JnRBG> S;
[10:00] <ikonia> guest-2JnRBG: stop
[10:00] <guest-2JnRBG> ;S
[10:00] <ikonia> final warning
[10:01] <guiverc> mc is available on supported versions of Ubuntu -- https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mc  (in universe repo - do you have it enabled?)
[10:01] <Frankfurt_Soup> Ducasse ok it wants to install libssh2-1 mc-data and unzip
[10:01] <ducasse> Frankfurt_Soup: sounds good
[10:01] <Frankfurt_Soup> Guiverc idk i normally do that sort of thing via a gui
[10:02] <Frankfurt_Soup> Ducasse ok cool ill install and see if it works lol
[10:02] <PCatinean> If I have a command that launches a special shell and I want to feed some data into it, how can I achieve this using a bash script or using the CLI?
[10:03] <Frankfurt_Soup> Ok yeah MC is perfect for what i need thanks peoples
[10:03] <guiverc> atif5, sorry I don't see a question, just a statement or wish (switching from w to ubuntu)
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[10:03] <ikonia> hhhh: stop
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[10:03] <ikonia> hhhh: you will be muted if you continue
[10:03] <hhhh>  
[10:04] <atif5> wow
[10:04] <PCatinean> not sure what was his plan to be honest
[10:05] <atif5> al are bots
[10:05] <ikonia> no they are not
[10:05] <atif5> no human here ?
[10:05] <ikonia> as you've been told earlier
[10:05] <sveinse> How can I turn off the Gnome display configuration selector? (the one you get with Super+P)  It is buggy and it prevents me to set my own display configuration with xrandr on 17.10
[10:05] <ikonia> atif5: you asked this earlier and was told, most are humans, ask your question
[10:05] <bazhang> atif5, did you have an actual ubuntu tech support issue
[10:06] <sveinse> This is growing so bad that multi-screen setup is becoming unusable :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDgUlVNVn0
[10:06] <TJ-> sveinse: is the Xorg session being used? On 17.10 it'll default to Wayland rather than Xorg except on nvidia/proprietary, in which acse xrandr has no control
[10:07]  * JimBuntu is not human... and understands delays responses,
[10:07] <ikonia> sveinse: I'm curious to how you're logging in and changing the desktop settings when both keyboards and mouse are on the desk
[10:07]  * TJ- is based on DuckDuckGo A.I. v0.6-rc3 :)
[10:07] <JimBuntu> sveinse, 17.10? Do you expect it to be usable?
[10:08] <sveinse> TJ-: this is with nvidia, so its Xorg I believe. The noveau drivers does not work with hybrid graphics. Or at least it works less
[10:08] <JimBuntu> ikonia, I accomplish this via 'Synergy'
[10:09] <TJ-> sveinse: what are you trying to do? multi-monitor, or *multi-seat* ?
[10:09] <sveinse> TJ-: Multi monitor
[10:09] <JimBuntu> 9 monitors, 3 computers... one KB/Mouse to rule them all!
[10:10] <TJ-> sveinse: well, admittedly I've skipped 17.10 (only use LTS) but I have 6 monitors over 3 GPUs using nvidia GPUs and nouveau without a problem
[10:10] <sveinse> The thing is that when GDM3 starts, everything is sunshine wrt screen setup and config. It's when Gnome starts, havoks breaks loose to the display configuration. I just want to leave it at what gdm3 is using. Possible?
[10:11] <TJ-> sveinse: ahhh... there you have it "Gnome" - that went bad with multi-monitor way back in 2012 or earlier. I hit lots of bugs and brought them up with Gnome devs and got the response "we dont' support, or test, for multi-monitor support - in fact no Gnome dev at that time was even using multi-monitor)
[10:12] <ikonia> I'm on gnome with 3 monitors without issue
[10:12] <sveinse> TJ-: I tried 16.04, but I couldn't get the external screen working on this laptop, unfortunately. I'm waiting (in)patiently for 18.04 :D
[10:12] <TJ-> sveinse: My system's use lightdm and usually XFCE or KDE/Plasma
[10:12]  * JimBuntu has no issue with multi-monitor... multi-GPU
[10:12] <sveinse> JimBuntu: Do you have a machine with hybrid graphics?
[10:13] <JimBuntu> sveinse, I don't rely on on-board GPU.
[10:13] <TJ-> sveinse: Optimus is the problem because there are so many  (bad) implementations of it, both in hardware and in drivers.
[10:14] <sveinse> Somewhat ironically, but I bought this laptop because it was one of Canonical approved for Ubuntu types :P Lenovo P51
[10:14] <TJ-> sveinse: orginally the GPU multiplexer was done in hardware and all was great, then the manuacturers wanted to save more cost so made it mux-less (no multiplexer) and that's when problems start.
[10:14]  * JimBuntu loves their Lenovo with built-in Nvidia GPU
[10:15] <sveinse> yup. ...if only gnome could let go of trying to set my config/resolution
[10:15] <TJ-> sveinse: back to your orginal question... disabling the Gnome display config tool/applet - how does it interfere? does it over-ride your settings if you make changes?
[10:16] <JimBuntu> I will admit that it's 3x the size of my Macbook Pro... then again, it whoops the MBP's butt in benchmarks
[10:16] <sveinse> TJ-: Yes. Did you see my video above?
[10:17] <TJ-> sveinse: when the applet is running have you checked the process list to identify the binary running it? if you can ID it, you could prevent that binary from being executed ... but I'd guess whatever is monitoring/changing is in the internal libraries rather than the GUI applet
[10:17] <TJ-> sveinse: no; I don't touch Youtube
[10:17] <sveinse> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDgUlVNVn0 <-- the same thing happens if I set resolution with xrand or similar. It behaves like "Super+P" is pressed insanely fast and then after 10-20 sec settles on a setting which I didn't ask for
[10:18] <sveinse> Disabling the service which is responsible for the "Super+P" functionalty would cetainly help
[10:19]  * TJ- ponders the internals... I wonder if it uses DBus messaging and you could disrupt that
[10:20] <sveinse> Because from my POV, xorg and the drivers seems to work, since I'm getting the config and resolution I want when gnome doesn't interfere.
[10:21] <sveinse> I've deleted .config/monitors.xml a few times. That can help. Other times not
[10:23] <TJ-> sveinse: I'm reading up on the codebase; it seems like it's an internal monitor monitoring ('scuse the pun!) library so it can automatically reconfigure the display when things are connected/disconnected, so might be harder to turn off
[10:23] <sveinse> TJ-: but of course :P
[10:24] <sveinse> For reference, what is this functionality called?
[10:24] <sveinse> So I don't have to call it the-thing-you-get-when-pressing-Super-P
[10:25] <TJ-> sveinse: I'd love to know too!
[10:25] <sveinse> heh, got it
[10:26] <TJ-> sveinse: this (later answers) seem to be relevant: https://askubuntu.com/questions/68463/how-to-disable-global-super-p-shortcut#68487
[10:26] <sveinse> what will be the display system and desktop slated for 18.04?
[10:27] <TJ-> sveinse: 18.04 default is Xorg with Gnome
[10:28] <TJ-> sveinse: too many problems with the Gnome Mutter (Wayland) compositor still
[10:29] <sveinse> TJ-: How's the maturity on nouveau with wayland?
[10:29] <sveinse> ...using hybrid graphics
[10:29] <TJ-> sveinse: no idea; not allowing any Wayland compositors on my systems; the protocol is too brain-dead and user-hostile
[10:30] <sveinse> I see
[10:32] <sveinse> That being said, and slightly OT, but I'd expect the nvidia drivers on Win10 to be more mature than what I'm experiencing in windows. They're not. In windows you cannot get full native resolution on the third screen when using 3 screens.
[10:33] <TJ-> sveinse: that could well be a hardware limitation, if they're high-res there may simply not be enough VRAM or CRTC bandwidth for all 3 at native resolution
[10:33] <sveinse> Some others at work has been bugging IT about it, and they've checked with Lenovo. Which claimed it to be a HW limitation. The funny thing is that I'm actually running this config in Xorg+nvidia without problems....
[10:34] <TJ-> sveinse: if the driver by default wants to triple-buffer, then the amount of VRAM required for 3 might be too much
[10:34] <sveinse> Since then I've learned that it works if the make of the external screen is the same model. If you mix and match using two different screens + the internal panel in the laptop, then it doesn't work
[10:35] <sveinse> Anyhow, not an #ubuntu topic
[10:35] <TJ-> sveinse: that's interesting; are they operating independently or is 1 mirrored?
[10:36] <TJ-> sveinse: that kind of info is actually very useful for us in diagnosing obscure issues!
[10:36] <sveinse> all three independently
[10:36] <TJ-> sveinse: the only thing I can imagine as a restriction there would be if the 2 have to use the same EDID data - cannot imagine /why/ that would be though, I don't see any advantage
[10:37] <sveinse> Apparently xorg is able to get the correct EDID and config for all screens
[10:38] <akik> sveinse: maybe there's a similar thought process on windows driver side "who would ever need support for 3 displays?"
[10:38] <sveinse> Unless of course there is a correlation between the "Super+P" issues I'm experiencing and the windows display config. That it works is just an illution
[10:38] <TJ-> sveinse: Hmmm, for Windows, I wonder if it's that Nvidia arbitrary limitation to try to push customers to using Quadro hardware? I recall some time ago they did that for Linux - reduced the number of GPUs/monitors the linux driver would support so to keep existing functionality you could no longer update the driver
[10:40] <sveinse> TJ-: hmm, it *is* GM206GLM [Quadro M2200 Mobile] I have
[10:41] <ShriHari> you are eff'd then
[10:41] <sveinse> ShriHari: eh?
[10:42] <ShriHari> shah
[10:43] <sveinse> Anyhow, I've turned off the automaitc activation of xrandr. Let's see if that fixes the display config mess
[10:45] <NCC1701D> Hi
[10:45] <ShriHari> Hi
[10:47] <NCC1701D> So I need help finding a website editing tool to install on my web server.  I need one that is WYSIWYG... nice easy snap-in interface... but the files it outputs NEED to be .php.  So far all the ones I can find with a snap-in interface output .html files, then php code I put on the site won't work.
[10:48] <TJ-> sveinse: took some time but I /think/ the name of the gnome component is monitor-manager-kms
[10:48] <NCC1701D> By the way, bonus points for anyone who can figure out where my name came from.  It's really easy.
[10:49] <bazhang> NCC1701D, how is that website editiong tool related to ubuntu support
[10:49] <NCC1701D> I just always get really good help here.  Name a room I can take it to where I'll get equally good help and I'll go there.
[10:50] <TJ-> NCC1701D: search for "linux php ide"
[10:50] <bazhang> NCC1701D, /msg alis list term to find one
[10:50] <akik> TJ-: do you have a link to that gnome external monitor discussion? i've used two displays since years and would like to understand why they think it's of little use
[10:50] <Ben64> btw, you can have php code in a .html file
[10:51] <TJ-> akik: you mean when I was told the devs weren't testing/using multi-monitors?
[10:51] <akik> TJ-: yes
[10:52] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[10:52] <TJ-> akik: no; it was about 6 years ago now, and in an email exchange. I may have reported a related LP bug at the time but I can't remember.
[10:54] <ShriHari> HELO ELO LO O
[10:55] <bazhang> ShriHari, any ubuntu support issues?
[10:55] <bazhang> ShriHari, please take the offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere
[10:56] <ShriHari> Yes , something happened after running update-grub.
[10:56] <ShriHari> Now system get stuck at grub >
[11:06] <_Marek_> NCC1701D: ghost?
[11:07] <bumblebee> hi. could you please tell me how to install a lexmark x1160 printer on linux (ubuntu/lubuntu)?
[11:08] <_Marek_> bumblebee: does it have opne source drivers?
[11:09] <bumblebee> _Marek_: i don't know
[11:10] <bumblebee> where can i see that?
[11:10] <_Marek_> bumblebee: seems like its impossible
[11:10] <bumblebee> oh
[11:10] <_Marek_> just google fro your printer model linux drivers
[11:11] <bumblebee> http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=content&productCode=&segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=EN_UK&id=RE108
[11:11] <bumblebee> A Linux driver is not available for this printer.
[11:12] <bumblebee> does this mean that i can't get it to work?
[11:13] <_Marek_> most likely
[11:13] <_Marek_> ive got a xerox .... (doesnt matter it doesnt work anyway)
[11:13] <JimBuntu> bumblebee, You can get it to work if you write/modify the driver. Chances are, you can use a "compatible" driver though
[11:14] <Ben64> it's a printer from over 10 years ago, i'd say the chances are slim
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Lexmark has scanty linux support
[11:14] <Ben64> that too
[11:15] <bumblebee> JimBuntu: what do you mean bei "compatible driver"?
[11:15] <bumblebee> bei=by
[11:15] <_Marek_> bumblebee: a driver that is meant for more printer models
[11:15] <TJ-> _Marek_: seems like there /was/ a community driver for it 18 years ago! https://www.openprinting.org/driver/lm1100/
[11:15] <akik> bumblebee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[11:16] <_Marek_> TJ-: it seems the situation hasnt changed that much
[11:16] <JimBuntu> bumblebee, I mean there may be a universal type driver that works OK. I'm looking, sounds like TJ found something though
[11:16]  * _Marek_ owns a xerox 3230 phaser
[11:16] <TJ-> _Marek_: I'm not surprised; Lexmark never were good at providing/allowing Linux support
[11:16] <JimBuntu> Lexmark != "good for much"
[11:16] <_Marek_> it seems neither does xerox
[11:17] <TJ-> _Marek_: printer vendors love lock-in
[11:17] <_Marek_> TJ-: some do have oss drivers i think hp ddoes
[11:19] <TJ-> _Marek_: I have HP and Samsung multi-function printer/scanner/fax/etc; HP  drivers are in Ubuntu, Samsumg provided by a 3rd party repo from someone who cares
[11:19] <_Marek_> http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3020/downloads/enus.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en
[11:19] <_Marek_> does someone understand? two packages which seem to be the same
[11:20] <_Marek_> inside full of .so libs
[11:20] <_Marek_> and it doesnt even work
[11:21] <TJ-> _Marek_: looks like 2 titles for the same package. Compare the md5sum's of the 2 files see if they are identical
[11:22] <_Marek_> my bet is they are
[11:22] <_Marek_> point is they dont care
[11:32] <Shibe> why can't I install wine32 on ubuntu? wine32-development:i386 : Depends: libwine-development:i386 (= 2.18-1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:32] <EriC^^> Shibe: try sudo apt-get install libwine-development:i386
[11:33] <Shibe> EriC^^: libwine-development:i386 : Depends: libmpg123-0:i386 (>= 1.13.7) but it is not going to be installed
[11:33] <EriC^^> Shibe: try sudo apt-get install libmpg123-0:i386
[11:33] <Shibe> EriC^^: it's asking me to remove just about everything
[11:33] <Shibe> including ffmpeg and other stuff
[11:35] <EriC^^> Shibe: odd, what does "sudo apt-get -f install" give?
[11:35] <Shibe> EriC^^: does nothing?
[11:35] <Shibe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[11:35] <EriC^^> Shibe: can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get install libmpg123-0:i386 ?
[11:35] <EriC^^> i have it installed with ffmpeg as well
[11:36] <EriC^^> the dependency for it is only libc6 and it has no 'conflicts with'
[11:36] <Shibe> ericus: https://pastebin.com/raw/ZN4xYgVY
[11:36] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/ZN4xYgVY
[11:37] <EriC^^> Shibe: aha, those are packages already in the 'autoremove' list
[11:37] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[11:37] <EriC^^> Shibe: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache show libmpg123-0:i386 ?
[11:38] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/gsbn1a9M
[11:39] <EriC^^> odd, i wonder why apt wants to remove ffmpeg and the rest to install it
[11:40] <EriC^^> Shibe: what does apt-cache policy libmpg123-0:i386 give?
[11:41] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/DDUM9jQg
[11:41] <TJ-> EriC^^: there may be a related -dev package installed that has amd64/i386 conflicts
[11:42] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh, so if a package that conflicts with libmpg123-0:i386 is installed, apt would also take that into consideration, not just libmpg123-0:i386 's info
[11:43] <EriC^^> ?
[11:44] <TJ-> EriC^^: it'll follow the dependency graph down to it's root, so if along the way there's a package declares a Conflicts: with the same package of the alternate archtiecture, it'll say it needs to remove everything of the alternate architecture to install the packages of the requested architecture - what a mouthful!
[11:46] <EriC^^> Shibe: is other stuff being installed fine?
[11:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: sometimes the apt option Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true can help
[11:46] <Shibe> EriC^^: what do you mean?
[11:46] <Shibe> I can install wine64 but not wine32
[11:46] <EriC^^> TJ-: cool thanks
[11:47] <EriC^^> Shibe: try with TJ- 's suggestion sudo apt-get -o=Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install libmpg123-0:i386
[11:48] <Shibe> EriC^^: should i post the output?
[11:48] <EriC^^> yes
[11:48] <Shibe> seem to be saying some kde packages are "broken"
[11:48] <EriC^^> aha pastebin them
[11:49] <Kristine> I seam to be having troubles in an ubuntu 17.10 server, previously i was using 16.04.4. My problem is that i used pointopoint in /etc/network/interfaces, what would the equiviliant be in netplay ?
[11:49] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/YasqFnfC
[11:50] <EriC^^> Shibe: what does sudo apt-get install libmpg123-0:amd64 give?
[11:51] <Shibe> EriC^^: libmpg123-0 is already the newest version (1.25.8-1~ubuntu17.10.1~ppa1).
[11:51] <TJ-> Kristine: I'm not sure netplan has support for P-t-P yet; you're better off creating the /etc/systemd/network/ systemd.network config yourself
[11:51] <EriC^^> Shibe: try apt-cache show libopenmpt0:amd64
[11:52] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/5iZAPv6U
[11:52] <TJ-> EriC^^: looks like a PPA issue
[11:52] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah
[11:53] <BluesKaj> one can also use ifupdown and the interfaces file in place of netplan and network manager
[11:53] <TJ-> BluesKaj: it's server; it has systemd-networkd, and on 17.10 ifupdown is no longer installed, deprecated
[11:55] <BluesKaj> TJ-, ok, perhaps not for a server, but that setup works on my 17.10 desktop quite well
[11:56] <EriC^^> Shibe: try to purge ppa's that you dont need
[11:56] <EriC^^> Shibe: any reason you're using those repos instead of the official ubuntu ones?
[11:57] <Shibe> EriC^^: which ones?
[11:57] <Shibe> I have a kde unstable on on my system
[11:57] <EriC^^> mirrors.nayatel.com/ubuntu
[11:57] <Shibe> let me see which other ones I have
[11:57] <Shibe> EriC^^: I was having download speed issues with the ubuntu ones
[11:57] <Shibe> where as the nayatel mirror is in my region
[11:58] <TJ-> BluesKaj: yeah, netplan is targeted more for 'standard' mass orchestrated virtual machine or container deployments
[11:58] <EriC^^> Shibe: there's a program in ubuntu that checks for the fastest one close to you it might work
[11:58] <EriC^^> Shibe: dash > software & updates > click on download from > other, select best server
[11:59] <EriC^^> Shibe: what does 'apt-cache policy libmpg123-0:amd64' give?
[12:00] <Shibe> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/cbhvpqQ0
[12:00] <Shibe> EriC^^: is there any way I can check which packages a certain repository provides?
[12:01] <Shibe> I'm going through my ppas but I can't quite remember which ones  i need
[12:01] <Shibe> and which I dont
[12:07] <EriC^^> Shibe: sorry i got dc
[12:07] <Shibe> EriC^^: I fixed it
[12:07] <Tin_man> Shibe, try this link, might have what your looking for, not completely sure >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/8560/how-do-i-find-out-which-repository-a-package-comes-from
[12:07] <Shibe> it was the vlc ppa causing it
[12:07] <Shibe> it bundled libmpg123
[12:07] <Shibe> using ppa-purge fixed it
[12:08] <Shibe> thanks a lot for your patience EriC^^ !
[12:08] <EriC^^> Shibe: great! no problem
[12:08] <Netmage> Hello, I would like to create a .bash_aliases. For my alias I have a oneline script that includes the '. How can I add a aliases and use ' for the alias command and ' for the script ?
[12:14] <akik> Netmage: use \'
[12:18] <Netmage> alias youdl_audio-best='youtube-dl -x --audio-format "best" --audio-quality 0 -o \'~/Downloads/%(title)s.%(ext)s\''
[12:18] <Netmage> Unfortunately. The \ does not work in this case
[12:24] <akik> Netmage: my aliases are enclosed with ""
[12:24] <akik> maybe that's the difference
[12:25] <TJ-> Netmage: you've already used " once, does it not work if you use it again for that -o option ?
[12:30] <VjdfMQ> hey all
[12:30] <VjdfMQ> Trying to execute an application and gettng: exception inside UnhandledException handler: The type initializer for 'Ionic.Zip.ZipFile' threw an exception.
[12:30] <VjdfMQ> Could it be because of OpenGL ?
[12:48] <jkdr> How can I get intel video driver to work in Xorg so glxinfo shows using video card?
[12:48] <jkdr> I created files /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-intel.conf and 10-i915.conf
[12:49] <jkdr> I copied from 10-radeon.conf and changed references to intel and i915 accordingly
[12:50] <jkdr> currently GLX is missing
[12:50] <jkdr> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[12:54] <NERD-k> How to input chinese when I in English Ubuntu
[12:59] <z0> hi guys. im relatively new to ubuntu and i found a  mongodb deamon running that I have no idea why I installed. is there a way i can find why is it running and if its safe to purge?
[13:00] <NERD-k> How to input chinese char when I'm using the english environment of Ubuntu 17.10???
[13:00] <JimBuntu> z0, how about `sudo service mongod stop` and see if anything complains
[13:01] <z0> nothing complaings
[13:01] <z0> but im still afraid
[13:02] <NERD-k> Somebody can slove my problem??
[13:03] <NERD-k> OK, it can work now ...
[13:03] <NERD-k> It cannot work jist now ...
[13:04] <z0> JimBuntu: i've been doing apt-cache rdepends for 15 minutes now
[13:04] <MarceeZ> Hello all i uninstalled one old thing what was related to firefox and now history and bookmarks not save in firefox
[13:04] <MarceeZ> How to solve these problem
[13:05] <NERD-k> Me? Do nothoing. Just reboot,
[13:05] <JimBuntu> z0, Well, I can't (literally) figure out why you would be running MongoDB and not know it. I could only venture you installed it once upon a time to play with.
[13:06] <NERD-k> I have no idea with this.
[13:06] <JimBuntu> z0, I wouldn't consider MongoDB to be a common database option when installing something else.
[13:06] <TJ-> z0: what have you experimented with recently? one possibility is wekan
[13:08] <TJ-> z0: you could do "zgrep mongo /var/log/apt/history.*"
[13:10] <erdem> the nodejs package is a bit old
[13:10] <erdem> what would be the right way to get a newer one?
[13:10] <JimBuntu> TJ-, or possibly even check out the `/var/log/mongodb/mongod.log` to see what ( if anything) has been running queries
[13:11] <JimBuntu> z0, you could run `mongo` and then try `show dbs` to see the database names
[13:14] <z0> JimBuntu: TJ-: i did all that. no relevant clues. just a lonely apt install mongodb-server in the middle of the afternoon 10 months ago... thanks guys.
[13:15] <JimBuntu> z0, Yeah , sounds like it's safe to `chmod -x /etc/init.d/mongod*` then
[13:15] <TJ-> z0: so now you have a date/time ... use that to narrow down what you were up to. Look in the same log-file around that install for other packages being installed, that may jog your memory, or you could scan the file-system iwth 'find' for files timestamped within a range of that time
[13:17] <z0> oh man im getting that rush of a mistery to solve
[13:17] <z0> but ive got work to do :x
[13:17] <ioria> z0,   ' aptitude why mongodb-server '
[13:17] <JimBuntu> z0, Why an app is installed that you don't remember installing sounds like a security related task (work)
[13:18] <TJ-> Plus... inquistive minds want to know! :)
[13:19] <z0> unfortunately this is not a work related server :D (im on lunch break)
[13:19] <z0> however
[13:19] <z0> i find it odd that
[13:19] <JimBuntu> ancillary machines can still be work related, when it comes to security
[13:21] <MarceeZ> I have Linux version 12.04LTS WHy i cant get newer version of firefox
[13:21] <MarceeZ> ???
[13:21] <z0> JimBuntu: how very persuasive of you
[13:22] <z0> ok so
[13:22] <MarceeZ> I havr firefox 52 version
[13:22] <JimBuntu> MarceeZ, possily because the version of Ubuntu you have is VERY out of date and EOL.
[13:22] <z0> 'apt-cache rdepends mongodb-server' lists libstdc++6
[13:23] <z0> am i misinterpreting rdepends?
[13:23] <MarceeZ> JimBuntu, Is it possible to upgrade linux version online without CD or something like that?
[13:23] <ioria> yes
[13:23] <JimBuntu> MarceeZ, yes.... ioria beat me to it
[13:24] <JimBuntu> MarceeZ, first... make a backup of anything you value (just in-case)
[13:24] <JimBuntu> MarceeZ, then... https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <MarceeZ> JimBuntu, ANd what i need to do?
[13:25] <MarceeZ> ok
[13:25] <EriC^^> MarceeZ: which ubuntu do you have right now?
[13:25] <TJ-> z0: that's because libstdc++6 declares a Breaks: on mongodb
[13:26] <JimBuntu> EriC^^, please make sure you are seated.... they have 12.04LTS
[13:27] <EriC^^> JimBuntu: :)
[13:27] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | MarceeZ have a look here
[13:27] <MarceeZ> How to make backup simplest way?
[13:28] <JimBuntu> MarceeZ, that is also discussed in the link I provided, probably also in the one from EriC^^
[13:29] <z0> TJ-: ok now you lost me
[13:29] <z0> where can i look up what that means?
[13:29] <erdem> how do i get into nautilus preferences in xubuntu?
[13:30] <erdem> am i missing a package?
[13:30] <TJ-> z0: Do "apt-cache show libstdc++6" you'll see a line starts "Breaks:" with a long list of package(version)'s that library is incompatible with
[13:33]  * z0 not clicking
[13:33] <estudiante6> hellow
[13:35] <TJ-> z0: it means that the libstc++6 ABI/API has changed so any packages linking to it expecting the older libstc++6 ABI/API will fails, so the libstdc++6 package declares it 'Breaks' specific package/versions so those won't be installed at the same time.
[13:38] <z0> TJ-: still dont get why apt-cache lists libstdc++6 as a reverse dependency of mongodb-server. wouldn't this mean that libstdc++6 depends on mongodb-server (surely not). am i misinterpreting rdepends?
[13:38] <TJ-> z0: Depends: Conflicts: Breaks: Recommends: Suggests: are all 'dependencies' in apt terms; that's why
[13:39] <TJ-> z0: it implies some relationship between the packages
[13:39]  * z0 clicks
[13:39] <z0> did not know that. thanks
[13:40] <TJ-> z0: yeah... first time I hit that I was puzzled for several hours :D
[13:41] <dchotas> TJ-: Hey there, we chatted a couple days ago regarding a broken Ubuntu 16.04 after latest os updates, resulting in a broken DE. Here's the inotifywait output on the $HOME/config folder that you requested then: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3PmhNRdqSq/
[13:41] <z0> i wont complain about 30m then
[13:41] <TJ-> dchotas: ha! I need to consult my logs to refresh my memory
[13:44] <TJ-> dchotas: OK, up to speed! We had another user with the same issue in the last 24 hours; took the quick solution there and did "mv $HOME/.config $HOME/.config.bak" - we did try to diff the clean recreated .config with .config.bak but couldn't isolate what causes the problem
[13:44] <erdem> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/64ea0a9e719a8ea47de218d72fdd93e0
[13:44] <erdem> any idea how to fix this problem?
[13:44] <erdem> not able to install nextcloud-client-nemo
[13:45] <TJ-> dchotas: interestingly your log ends with a huge amount of skypeforlinux going on
[13:46] <TJ-> dchotas: hmmm, this one sounds like it might be related. what's in it? /home/fabio/.config/cairo-dock/current_theme/plug-ins/showDesktop/ OPEN showDesktop.conf
[13:47] <Netmage> TJ-: Unfortunately it still doesn't work
[13:49] <erdem> Package nemo-python is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:50] <erdem> but its not showing which package
[13:50] <erdem> how can i find out?
[13:50] <ioria> erdem, you know it's not an ubuntu pkg
[13:52] <dorian_> @search origine des victoires
[13:52] <erdem> oh i see
[13:52] <erdem> thank you
[13:53] <oerheks> as of artful nemo-python is availale... https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/nemo-python
[13:53] <dchotas> TJ-: I'll try .bak'ing the file and see how cairo behaves with a fresh file
[13:53] <inviz> hi, any guide on internet how to install kernel 4.15 on 16.04?
[13:53] <dchotas> TJ-: if that doesn't help i'ma try with a new .config folder like you suggested earlier
[13:54] <scorpius2k1> anyone recommend a good dock app similar to docky that has a thumbnail preview?
[13:54] <EriC^^> !mainline | inviz this might help
[13:54] <EriC^^> !hwe | inviz possibly this too
[14:09] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[14:12] <VjdfMQ> Hey all
[14:12] <VjdfMQ> Is it possible to change OpenGL 2.1 to 3 ?
[14:12] <VjdfMQ> Driver i915
[14:16] <donofrio> where is the datavirt channel (on freenode or another host?)
[14:16] <leftyfb> donofrio: datavirt? Also, try #freenode for such questions
[14:18] <kostkon> VjdfMQ, if yu trying to play a steam game that requires opengl3+ you can put this in the Launch Options for the game: MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.0 %command%
[14:19] <donofrio> leftyfb, figured someone might run redhat datavirt on ubuntu
[14:19] <leftyfb> what is datavirt?
[14:20] <VjdfMQ> kostkon: Not the sateam, but GOG.com version
[14:20] <VjdfMQ> steam *
[14:20] <leftyfb> donofrio: do you mean libvirt?
[14:20] <leftyfb> as in, kvm
[14:20] <VjdfMQ> Is it possible to make the same via GOG.com version ?
[14:21] <dchotas> TJ-: No bueno :( I tried "soft-deleting" both .config/cairo-dock and .config altogether. After soft-deleting .config and relogging the user through the dm i don't event get the unity dash or the top panel
[14:21] <kostkon> VjdfMQ, try doing the same in the terminal, MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.0 my_game_command, it might work
[14:21] <kostkon> VjdfMQ, if it works, then update its .desktop file accordingly, if there is one
[14:30] <zt> lkjhkop
[14:36] <Phobia> hii
[14:39] <mb_pants> Hi
[14:39] <mb_pants> im triying to make a kickstart bootable usb, i have a problem in the %post section, i created user with useradd blabla -m dont create the folder
[14:40] <mb_pants> is posible what i want?
[14:41] <adac> For my 16.04 I'd like to install (downgrade) the kernel to "4.4.0-112-generic" Is that possible and if yes, how can I do that?
[14:42] <bumbar__> i'm trying to set up openvpn server, and can connect to it on phone, but no traffic seems to passing through
[14:43] <leftyfb> adac: why?
[14:43] <adac> leftyfb, I would check if the newer kernel makes problems with my rancher installation
[14:43] <adac> on my old hosts with that kernel it works fine
[14:44] <adac> this new host has a newer one and there I have issues
[14:44] <leftyfb> adac: is this an user in addition to the "user" section of your preseed/kickstart?
[14:44] <adac> leftyfb, not sure If I can follow you
[14:45] <leftyfb> sorry, wrong person
[14:45] <leftyfb> mb_pants: is this an user in addition to the "user" section of your preseed/kickstart?
[14:45] <leftyfb> adac: sudo apt install linux-image-4.4.0-112-generic
[14:46] <mb_pants> no leftyfb i created in the %post section
[14:46] <mb_pants> with useradd command
[14:46] <adac> leftyfb, thanks!
[14:47] <adac> leftyfb, ona  reboot it will use this kernel already right?
[14:47] <leftyfb> mb_pants: why? use: user mynewuser --fullname "mynewuser" --password mypassword
[14:47] <leftyfb> adac: only one way to find out
[14:47] <adac> hehe
[14:48] <leftyfb> adac: I don't think it will though
[14:48] <adac> leftyfb, kk
[14:52] <sin_dy> Test Test
[14:52] <leftyfb> sin_dy: test failed
[14:53] <mb_pants> leftyfb: because kickstart create users at finist, so i haev the same problem
[14:53] <mb_pants> i the %post section the user not exists
[14:53] <mb_pants> only root
[14:53] <adac> leftyfb,
[14:53] <adac> Run grub-set-default or grub-reboot (with sudo) with the number of the menu item to boot (the first item is 0). This command will change the default to the second item:
[14:53] <adac> sudo grub-set-default 1
[14:53] <adac> not sure how to find out the item numbers :D
[14:54] <leftyfb> mb_pants: huh? You can create your user using the above command in your kickstart file I gave you
[14:55] <leftyfb> mb_pants: do the above before %post
[14:56] <abdhi> hi three
[14:56] <abdhi> anyone here?
[14:57] <leftyfb> !ask | abdhi
[14:59] <mb_pants> leftyfb: i tryed both methods, i need to copy some files to the user folder in the %post section, if i do the cp /usb/folder/1 to /home/user in the %post section says that the user folder not exists. Neither kickstart either creating the user in the post section
[14:59] <mb_pants> sorry for my english
[14:59] <mb_pants> is not good
[14:59] <adac> leftyfb, aha like this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/198027
[15:01] <leftyfb> mb_pants: cp /usb/folder/1 /target/home/user
[15:01] <leftyfb> mb_pants: during the install, your root filesystem is in /target
[15:01] <mb_pants> i will try it
[15:02] <mb_pants> thanks
[15:02] <nacc> mb_pants: otherwise you're trying to modify the installer's image (i.e., the $user does not (correctly) exist in the installer's OS)
[15:05] <a_> Hi I need help please
[15:05] <mb_pants> leftyfb: i use %post --interpreter=/bin/bash so dont need to put /target/home
[15:05] <leftyfb> !ask | a_
[15:05] <mb_pants> onlye /home/user
[15:06] <a_> okay
[15:08] <bn_work> hi, does Canonical have any general usage stats on the different versions of Ubuntu?
[15:09] <bn_work> I tried looking around on the web but couldn't really find any info on it.  Someone posted a similar question here but it has no answers:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/959570/telemetry-is-there-some-statistics-about-ubuntu-desktop-usage-provided-by-canon
[15:10] <bumblebee> hi
[15:10] <akik> bn_work: here are some stats https://errors.ubuntu.com/
[15:10] <bumblebee> hi. can you please help me installing a printer (canon pixma mg2950) on lubuntu 16.04?
[15:11] <a_> I wanted to extend the C in windows 7 and the operation was unsuccessful than I reboot and have the unknown file system entering grub rescue mode warning I have win 7 and solus budgie
[15:12] <akik> bn_work: although you can't really get the info that you wanted from that. there'll be a new data collection system in the next version (18.04)
[15:12] <a_> Now I want to do a clean install of win 7 and than I will install linux too
[15:12] <adac> Hmm I now followed this:
[15:13] <adac> https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/224708 but no luck, setting the GRUB_DEFAULT to 5 but still reboot does only boot the newest one
[15:13] <a_> how can I do that in the bios menu there is a option to clean the ssd will that help  me?
[15:13] <dorian_> @search weather
[15:13] <leftyfb> dorian_: no
[15:13] <leftyfb> a_: so do your clean install of Windows
[15:14] <leftyfb> a_: nothing you have said has anything to do with ubuntu
[15:15] <bn_work> akik: thanks, what units is the vertical scale in?
[15:15] <a_> leftyfb I am a newbie and want to learn if I delete the ssd from bios can I install win 7 without grub error screen
[15:15] <akik> bn_work: that's what i wondering about too :P
[15:16] <leftyfb> a_: you want #microsoft
[15:16] <leftyfb> a_: or #windows
[15:16] <akik> a_: windows 7 will overwrite the mbr
[15:17] <a_> and yes sorry I now only have a peppermint to work with and thought maybe can have advice fromhere
[15:17] <akik> a_ will receive no support from ##windows
[15:17] <leftyfb> akik: really?
[15:18] <akik> leftyfb: well they think just like you, it's an ubuntu problem
[15:18] <a_> I did a usb stick iso but only had the grub error screen but I can use live linux isos
[15:18] <leftyfb> akik: not if they have the faintest idea about how a Windows installation works
[15:19] <leftyfb> a_: just reinstall Windows .. it will wipe everything on the drive
[15:19] <a_> I hate windows just keeping it for some official hardware programs which are not avaliable for linux
[15:21] <a_> how about if I just install ubuntu on the entire ssd that can also solve the problem right
[15:21] <leftyfb> a_: if you need Windows, reinstall Windows first
[15:22] <a_> I know leftyfb
[15:23] <a_> I can do another clean install later cause win 7 installing page is not launching when I use the win 7usb stick
[15:27] <bn_work> akik: yeah, I'm having a hard time gleaning any useful #s from that :/  any rough estimate?  specifically I am curious about 14.04 LTS usage
[15:28] <MarceeZ> Hi all i made problem. I have ubuntu 12.04LTS i make unity-reset but now disapears close minimiza icon toolbar
[15:29] <MarceeZ> How to get back this toolbar? : (
[15:29] <a_> thanks people
[15:29] <a_> thanks leftyfb and akik
[15:30] <akik> bn_work: sorry, no. there's also the popularity contest site but it hasn't been updated since 2016
[15:30] <bn_work> popcorn?
[15:30] <akik> almost :)
[15:30] <akik> https://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[15:31] <bn_work> akik: oops, that's what I meant :)  yeah, I looked at that earlier but couldn't figure out how to drill down to version :/
[15:48] <kes0> Why is driver manager show fglrx drivers that downt work?
[15:48] <kes0> Dont*
[15:58] <mekhami> https://askubuntu.com/questions/683555/unable-to-install-python3-dev-ubuntu why am i still having this problem when i try to install python3-dev in 16.04
[16:45] <Aleric> Every now and then copy&paste stops working... Currently, when I double click some text in a window it doesn't copy that anymore and the middle mouse button just keeps pasting the same thing :/.  I don't want to have to reboot every time... is there something that I can do to fix this?
[16:54] <Aleric> window switching is broken too... ALT-TAB does nothing
[16:57] <dchotas> TJ-: I've also tested creating a new user and this new user seems to work just fine, wether it's booting a Ubuntu session or a cairo dock session they both work. I've also noted that on my faulty user cairo complains of not finding compiz, while it's perfectly usable by a newly created user.
[16:58]  * huggis 
[17:01] <TJ-> dchotas: that's useful info, I wonder what's in it's config causing that
[17:02] <Aleric> I fixed it... Alt-F2 and then type: kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart plasmashell
[17:02] <Aleric> After that copy&paste works again... so plasmashell is broken
[17:03] <dchotas> TJ-: I've a plethora of things regarding config files, I tried copying ~/.config/cairo-dock from a newly created user to the faulty one or even hiding the .compiz and .config folders my moving to *.bak on the faulty user but that didn't help
[17:03] <TheSHAD0W> Question: Will 17.10 update cleanly to 18.04 - at least, theoretically?
[17:03] <dchotas> TJ-: would it be possible for compiz to keep some sort of user related configurations on it's own folders or some other system folder?
[17:03] <TJ-> dchotas: yeah, it's been an elusive one to track down which is why we don't know yet
[17:04] <TJ-> dchotas: I don't think so, that's the point of the per-user config, but if it did it'd likely be under /var/ somewhere
[17:05] <oerheks> TheSHAD0W, sure, 'cleanly' as in you keep settings & data
[17:05] <finder123> could anyone please explain why this is giving me permission denied error?
[17:05] <finder123>  su; mkdir foo; chmod 777 foo; exit; ls foo
[17:06] <oerheks> finder123, and the location of /foo is ??
[17:06] <finder123> overheks, $HOME/foo
[17:07] <oerheks> finder123, i thinkt you do not need (and the ubuntu way is 'sudo -i' ..)
[17:07] <finder123> oerheks* sorry. I misspelled your nick
[17:08] <oerheks> just mkdir foo, chmod 777 ~/foo
[17:08] <tgm4883> and maybe drop the chmod 777, depending on what your end goal is
[17:08] <TheSHAD0W> TY
[17:09] <finder123> actually, i was trying to solve another problem.
[17:09] <tgm4883> finder123: naturally
[17:10] <finder123> su; mkdir /mnt/linux; losetup .... Linux.ext4; mount -t ext4 ... /mnt/linux; exit
[17:11] <finder123> but after doing this, normal user cant write to the mounted folder.
[17:11] <oerheks> su does something different than sudo -i, something with environment variables..
[17:12] <tgm4883> I always find it a good idea to add "..." in place of some of the commands you're trying to run when asking for help
[17:12] <finder123> it was /dev/loop0
[17:12] <finder123> sorry :/
[17:13] <finder123> thanks oerheks, let me duckduckgo more about that
[17:15] <finder123> I have an ext4 formatted usb drive, which mounts fine and writeable when running as normal user in ubuntu. But when logged in as guest session, it says permission denied when opening the drive in file manager. Won't even list the directory contents.
[17:16] <finder123> but a fat32 formatted drive works fine
[17:16] <finder123> is this the intended behavior?
[17:17] <oerheks> finder123, yes, soiunds normal to me, see this page, it may be a help https://askubuntu.com/questions/587247/how-to-create-a-ext4-partition-for-all-users
[17:18] <finder123> So mounting the drive first as normal user and then chmod 777
[17:19] <finder123> chmod 77 -R should do the trick. Right?
[17:19] <finder123> 777*
[17:21] <arthur_> Anyone got a public GPG/PGP Key? I would like to test email encryption.
[17:22] <rvgate> its a trap
[17:23] <arthur_> What is a trap?
[17:23] <shazbotmcnasty> a device or enclosure designed to catch and retain animals, typically by allowing entry but not exit or by catching hold of a part of the body.
[17:24] <shazbotmcnasty> or: a situation in which people lie in wait to make a surprise attack.
[17:24] <arthur_> Thanks for the definition
[17:24] <shazbotmcnasty> and there's one other definition.
[17:24] <finder123> oerheks: I just read a little bit about sudo and su. su switches to the root user, while sudo -i gives a session where the user is not changed but is elevated to root privileges.
[17:24] <TJ-> arthur_: try ubuntu@iam.tj if you want
[17:25] <arthur_> Thanks, TJ. I will take a look now.
[17:25] <finder123> oerheks: so su; mkdir creates a dir with user and group root:root while sudo -i; mkdir creates with finder:finder
[17:26] <akik> finder123: sudo -i gives you the root user shell
[17:26] <finder123> Regardless of whether a folder is owned by root or normal user, shouldn't a folder with drwxrwxrwx permission.be readable to all users?
[17:26] <akik> finder123: commands you run after sudo -i create everything with root ownership
[17:26] <TJ-> finder123: it depends on the parent directories too, the path up from /
[17:27] <finder123> akik: oh. I think i got it wrong then. Let me dig a little bit more
[17:28] <TJ-> finder123: the user needs to have +x (traverse) permission on all parent directories
[17:28] <finder123> TJ-: I am in $HOME. But this gives me permission error. What is going on here? su; mkdir foo; chmod 777 foo; exit; ls foo
[17:29] <finder123> ls -la . shows drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 Mar 12 22:26 foo
[17:30] <TJ-> finder123: I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve. If it is related to *mounting* an ext4 permissions, then it's the permissions *inside* the file-system, not those outside, that control access
[17:31] <TJ-> finder123: which is why FAT works, since it has no concept of permissions attributes
[17:32] <Alex98> register alex07101998 poboranu.alex@gmail.com
[17:32] <finder123> TJ-: although I actually wanted to solve the ext4 mounting problem, now I am really curious about what is happening here in this simple case. I think there are some flaws in my understamding of unix file permissions.
[17:33] <finder123> I would really appreciate if anyone could shed some light on the case
[17:35] <TJ-> finder123: you've got 3 sets of permissions intersecting: 1) the mountpoint and directories leading up to it from / 2) the mount options that affect permissions, if any 3) the permissions in the file-system itself
[17:36] <finder123> I see
[17:40] <Exterminador> erm... I was trying to upgrade to Bionic Beaver (I know it's still development branch) but my Xubuntu just errored and it started it all again by itself (I'm upgrading from tty2). now it's removing 156 packages. is it reinstalling the OS from "scratch"?
[17:42] <boot1> my auto is no longer working with ubuntu
[17:42] <boot1> audio
[17:43] <boot1> i have checked the speakers and confirmed they are connected to the sound card
[17:43] <boot1> in the sound settings I have no output options
[17:44] <boot1> it happened after using REISUB
[17:44] <boot1> to reboot
[17:44] <boot1> any suggestions would be appreciated
[17:50] <boot1> I have tried reinstalling pulse audio with no success
[17:56] <kidar> hi, need sone help in cloning 500gig hhd to 250gig hd. please let me know the command. need to clone ubuntu mate. Thanks kidar
[17:57] <nicomachus> !info dd | kidar
[17:57] <nicomachus> !dd | kidar
[17:58] <nicomachus> hmmmm...
[17:58] <lotus|BUG> !clone
[17:58] <lotus|BUG> also not
[17:58] <kidar> repilacte from one machine to another
[18:01] <TJ-> boot1: have you tried a cold power-off restart, possibly removing the battery for 1 minute if the PC has a removable battery?
[18:02] <kidar> clone two machine one i5(500g) and the other xeon (250G)
[18:02] <TJ-> kidar: do you want to do a bit-perfect clone, or just installed-packages + config + user data
[18:02] <kidar> complete
[18:03] <TJ-> kidar: well, 500G to 250G obviously doesn't fit, so something has to go
[18:04] <TJ-> kidar: one approach is too boot the 500G system from a LiveISO, then use file-system resizing tools to shrink all file-systems to their minimum possible size, then if they're less than 250G they can be copied directly over
[18:06] <kidar> ok thx will try
[18:09] <boot1> TJ: I have restarted, it is a desktop
[18:10] <boot1> im 90% sure but I will restart again
[18:10] <boot1> no battery though
[18:11] <albertoiNET> Hey, any can helpme with this issue. I can't adjust brightness in a laptop. More info in this ask:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010405/the-brightness-of-laptop-screen-cannot-be-adjusted-with-either-the-buttons-or-th/1013767#1013767
[18:15] <yaskina> anyone know why i can not install 18.04 on my netbook
[18:16] <yaskina> guess no one here
[18:17] <TJ-> !+1
[18:17] <TJ-> hmmph
[18:17] <TJ-> yaskina: try #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 issues
[18:17] <yaskina> thanks
[18:22] <kes0> YW
[18:25] <ashutosh> Can someone tell me how do I register my username here?
[18:25] <ikonia> !register | ashutosh
[18:25] <ashutosh> !register | ashutosh
[18:26] <ashutosh> !register | ashutosh
[18:27] <kes0> !fook
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> ashutosh, that is not how to register... look at the message ubottu sent you, it has the link with instructions on registering your nick here
[18:32] <DrRoach> Hi can anybody here give me a hand getting mysql installed on Ubuntu 16.04?
[18:36] <TheWild> hello
[18:36] <TheWild> I want to flush very large amount of text from clipboard to file. Now what?
[18:37] <TheWild> gedit won't take it
[18:38] <DrRoach> echo text > file.txt
[18:38] <DrRoach> or >> I can't quite remember
[18:38] <leftyfb> TheWild: xsel --clipboard --output > file
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | DrRoach
[18:40] <leftyfb> TheWild: out of curiosity, how did you get that much into the clipboard?
[18:40] <DrRoach> I'm having issues installing, for some reason mysql-server-5.7 is failing installation
[18:40] <DrRoach> I've never seen the error before
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> DrRoach: check apt-cache search yourpackage
[18:40] <leftyfb> DrRoach: please post your terminal with the command you're running along with the error message to pastebin
[18:41] <TheWild> I copied a large Facebook group member list outer HTML
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> DrRoach: and wich ubuntu version are you on?
[18:41] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: he posted 16.04 earlier
[18:41] <DrRoach> 16.04
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> oh kk
[18:42] <kes0> TheWild: Try nano
[18:42] <DrRoach> getting error that mysql-server-5.7 isn't configured, maybe there's a way I can do that?
[18:42] <leftyfb> DrRoach: please post your terminal with the command you're running along with the error message to pastebin
[18:42] <DrRoach> kes0: *vim
[18:43] <DrRoach> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/TaCPani7    thanks
[18:43] <TheWild> neither nano is taking it :(
[18:44] <kes0> DrRoach: Yes but nano is nice program
[18:44] <leftyfb> TheWild: xsel --clipboard --output > file
[18:44] <DrRoach> TheWild: try xclip -o > path
[18:44] <DrRoach> https://askubuntu.com/questions/470652/how-can-i-paste-copied-clipboard-text-to-a-file-from-terminal
[18:45] <leftyfb> DrRoach: please pastebin: systemctl status mysql.service
[18:46] <DrRoach> kes0: I know, poor attemp at humour on my part
[18:46] <DrRoach> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/6MNwsh4S
[18:46] <TheWild> "xsel --clipboard --output" does not produce output
[18:46] <leftyfb> TheWild: xsel --clipboard --output > file
[18:46] <TheWild> "xclip -o": Error: target STRING not available
[18:49] <TheWild> leftyfb: without > file it should print a thing to stdout
[18:49] <leftyfb> TheWild: then are you sure you've got anything in your clipboard at the moment?
[18:49] <leftyfb> TheWild: test it with a smaller copy
[18:50] <TheWild> I'm not sure, there is "something", but some programs hang on it, some claim there was nothing.
[18:50] <leftyfb> TheWild: test it with a smaller copy
[18:51] <TheWild> I copied the HTML but before I tried to paste it, the firefox tab crashed. Could that be the issue?
[18:51] <TheWild> like: the clipboard is a socket?
[18:51] <leftyfb> could be
[18:52] <leftyfb> again, test these clipboard utils with something else
[18:52] <kes0> DrRoach: Not really humor on my part
[18:53] <JimBuntu> Don't no body be talking bad about nano.
[18:53] <DrRoach> D:
[18:54] <kes0> Nano is nice
[18:54] <JimBuntu> Seriously though, I have such muscle memory for typing nano that I have an alias with one additional letter so I can quickly up-arrow and change the command
[18:55] <DrRoach> hahaha
[18:59] <Guest3458> hello.
[19:03] <xet7> How do I download latest snap build for CentOS 7 from here? https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org/job/lxd-test-snap-latest-edge/
[19:04] <xet7> Or somewhere else?
[19:05] <nacc> xet7: just use the edge channel, no?
[19:06] <xet7> nacc: rpm package of snap
[19:06] <xet7> not edge
[19:06] <nacc> xet7: 'rpm package of snap'??
[19:06] <nacc> xet7: do you understand what a snap is?
[19:06] <xet7> https://snapcraft.io/
[19:06] <nacc> xet7: that particular jenkins job is for testing the edge snap
[19:07] <xet7> where are downloads?
[19:07] <xet7> for snap for different operating systems
[19:07] <nacc> xet7: i don't understand what you mean? it's a snap, you get it from the snap store, like any other snap
[19:07] <nacc> xet7: use `snap install lxd`
[19:07] <xet7> installing snapd package
[19:07] <xet7> not package from store
[19:07] <nacc> xet7: if you are on centos, you are also on the wrong channel
[19:07] <xet7> the snap software itself
[19:08] <nacc> xet7: i don't know what you are saying, and you're not using complete sentences
[19:08] <nacc> xet7: you don't know how to install snapd on centos?
[19:08] <xet7> yes
[19:08] <nacc> xet7: that is a question for centos
[19:08] <nacc> xet7: this is the ubuntu support channel
[19:09] <xet7> isn't snap developed by canonical?
[19:09] <nacc> xet7: ... what does that have to do with anything?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> xet7: we support snaps for ubuntu..
[19:09] <xet7> Ok, I'll look elsewhere
[19:09] <nacc> xet7: you presumably want one of #centos (if it exists), #snappy or #lxcontainers
[19:16] <DrRoach> leftyfb: Any idea with the mysql issue?
[19:18] <Truxx> Why is /list not a good idea? I just wanted to see the available channels...
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Truxx too large
[19:20] <Truxx> ubottu I see, thank you for the explanation.
[19:20] <Truxx> ubottu That's ok, you've been still helpful.
[19:21] <boot1> I am able to see the volume icon and hear sound on my login screen but when I login the sound icon is gone and I cannot hear sound
[19:21] <boot1> just rebooted
[19:23] <bn_work> For older pre-systemd Ubuntu versions, does Ubuntu mandate any sort of changes from Debian's LSB spec?
[19:27] <Simonious_> E: Unable to locate package phpbcmath <- I did not expect this..
[19:27] <nacc> Simonious_: no such package in ubuntu
[19:28] <nacc> Simonious_: you want php-bcmath ?
[19:28] <Simonious_> nacc: indeed that seems to be the case
[19:28] <Simonious_> nacc: yes..
[19:28] <nacc> Simonious_: easy enough :)
[19:28] <Simonious_> not for me, point it out to me?
[19:28] <nacc> Simonious_: phpbcmath != php-bcmath
[19:29] <nacc> Simonious_:  you want 'php-bcmath'
[19:29] <kostkon> !info php-bcmath
[19:29] <Simonious_> E: Unable to locate package php-bcmath
[19:29] <Simonious_> sorry, tried that too
[19:29] <Peyam> hi I have a directory with lot of other directories and I want to find a certain file named " blabla.java'
[19:29] <Peyam> how do I do it
[19:29] <nacc> Simonious_: you didn't say that earlier :) what version of ubuntu?
[19:29] <kostkon> Simonious_, should be there
[19:30] <kostkon> !info php-bcmath xenial
[19:30] <EriC^^> Peyam: find /directory -type f -iname 'blabla.java'
[19:30] <Simonious_> Debian GNU/Linux 8.10 (jessie)
[19:30] <kostkon> aha
[19:30] <nacc> Simonious_: lol.
[19:30] <nacc> Simonious_: you are in the ubuntu support channel
[19:30] <Simonious_> uh..
[19:30] <nacc> Simonious_: please ask debian?
[19:30] <Simonious_> yeah my bad
[19:30] <Simonious_> I use ubuntu for everything, but this.. target is different
[19:30] <Simonious_> sorry
[19:31] <nacc> Simonious_: np :)
[19:31] <Peyam> EriC^^, find: Arguments to -type should contain only one letter
[19:31] <nacc> Peyam: EriC^^'s did.
[19:31] <EriC^^> Peyam: there's a typo after -type
[19:32] <Peyam> which one
[19:32] <EriC^^> Peyam: what did you type as the command?
[19:32] <Peyam> EriC^^, find -type -f -name 'MainActivity.java'
[19:32] <nacc> Peyam: you wrote '-f'
[19:33] <nacc> Peyam: that is not what EriC^^ wrote.
[19:33] <nacc> Peyam: and you also didn't give it a directory to search
[19:33] <Peyam> it is the current directory
[19:33] <nacc> Peyam: then you should use '.'
[19:33] <Peyam> nothing showed
[19:33] <nacc> Peyam: that is `find . -type f -name ...`
[19:33] <nacc> (iname rather)
[19:34] <Peyam> nothing
[19:34] <EriC^^> Peyam: try it with iname , also if you're unsure of the name you could use wildcards e.g -iname '*something*.java'
[19:34] <nacc> Peyam: then perhaps that file does not exist by that specific name
[19:34] <nacc> Peyam: if it does exist, use a pastebin and show us
[19:34] <bn_work> anyone?
[19:52] <Draconiator> LOL this site says the most use "bad word" in the code of the Linux kernal is "crap"
[19:59] <yaskina> id really like to contribute to unbuntu design, esp the colours and loading screen
[20:00] <kostkon> !contribute | yaskina
[20:02] <yaskina> i signed up
[20:02] <yaskina> i want a cool looking loading screen
[20:02] <yaskina> something no one has done
[20:02] <yaskina> or thought of
[20:04] <yaskina> anyone want to see a GUI desing i did for a media player before media players were even a thing, I invented the tab years before it was a thing also
[20:04] <nonix4> my preferred loading screen design is one that disappears in less than 20 milliseconds
[20:05] <JimBuntu> sure yaskina, post a link
[20:05] <yaskina> true but how often do you load it
[20:05] <Draconiator> lol
[20:05] <yaskina> Jim i can send it to you
[20:05] <yaskina> i dont have a link
[20:06] <JimBuntu> https://imgur.com/
[20:06] <yaskina> i sick of signing up for shit
[20:07] <JimBuntu> yaskina, you don't have to sign up
[20:07] <yaskina> I was working for and apple developer and a year later apple quicktime copied me, i think they sold me out
[20:08] <yaskina> like i said i invented the tab and media player before it was even a thing
[20:09] <yaskina> i rather a kewl loading screen that is impressive even if it takes a few seconds longer
[20:10] <yaskina> the loading screen now is to plain
[20:10] <yaskina> colours are all wrong
[20:11] <skinux> Is it the lower number for swappiness that tells it to use swap more/earlier?
[20:11] <yaskina> if you set it too 10 it wont use swap
[20:11] <skinux> What's the highest number then?
[20:12] <yaskina> lower the number the less swap
[20:12] <yaskina> higher more swap
[20:12] <skinux> OKay, it's set at 60 but isn't using swap at all
[20:12] <yaskina> prob cause you have enough ram
[20:13] <yaskina> 60 is default i think
[20:13] <skinux> Okay. Thanks
[20:16] <r203r9j049k124r9> Hello
[20:17] <tomreyn> Hi Martin
[20:17] <r203r9j049k124r9> Very busy here !? :)
[20:18] <tomreyn> r203r9j049k124r9: it's not a social channel, 'just' support. There is #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic, too.
[20:18] <coffeeguy> i think you reversed your password and nick r203r9j049k124r9
[20:18] <icompadecido> web programming
[20:18] <r203r9j049k124r9> ?
[20:18] <nacc> !alis | icompadecido
[20:18] <r203r9j049k124r9> Reversed my password?
[20:18] <nacc> r203r9j049k124r9: just a very long, random-looking nick :)
[20:18] <r203r9j049k124r9> Thank you ubottu
[20:19] <r203r9j049k124r9> I think the IRC client auto-generated it TBH
[20:19] <r203r9j049k124r9> I'm using HexChat
[20:19] <ioria> idt so
[20:21] <diogenes> hey
[20:22] <diogenes> hello world
[20:22] <nacc> diogenes: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:23] <diogenes> noo im just testing out hexchat
[20:23] <icompadecido> yes
[20:23] <diogenes> haven't used an IRC for like 2 decades
[20:23] <nacc> diogenes: ok, this is the support channel, please use a different channel for tests
[20:24] <diogenes> my apologies
[20:27] <azizLIGHT> how do i restrict wmctrl to this current workspace? is there another tool that can list program windows in the current workspace?
[20:37] <nehemiah> Looking for inspiration to solve the following issue: I have a preseeded ubuntu installation. After installing from that ISO, a computer turns into an LTSP instance. All works great so far. The problem is that I'll have to distribute this ISO to people who will then install it on a machine but do not necessarily have great technical skills. One issue I'm left with is having more or less automated backups of peoples home directories. Probably with some ex
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> nehemiah, I think your message was cut off mid-sentence...
[20:41] <vlt> nehemiah: after "some ex"
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> I think they were going to say with some examples. If that were the case, I'm surprised google hasn't generated anything for them. I wish I knew what LTSP instances were and how to make an automated install disk
[20:45] <vlt> pragmaticenigma: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project.
[20:46] <vlt> Works great,.
[20:47] <nehemiah> Probably with some external device. I've thought about using btrfs for the /home partition to automate snapshots. But I need something in case the hard disk dies. Any ideas how to solve this?
[20:49] <vlt> nehemiah: Put everything on LVM on Raid.
[20:50] <vlt> nehemiah: A dead harddisk can be replaced while everything just keeps running.
[20:51] <vlt> nehemiah: For the backups of /home you can either use an LVM snapshot or just rsync or rdiff-backup.
[20:52] <nehemiah> I'm mostly worried about not loosinguser data after a hard drive failure
[20:52] <vlt> nehemiah: Raid.
[20:52] <vlt> nehemiah: But Raid != backup
[20:52] <nehemiah> We'll there's the issue.
[20:53] <vlt> Raid just protects against having to shut everyhing down and restore from backup when one drive fails. And it will. Drives die.
[20:53] <Sven_vB> every now and then udisksd starts pushing my system load. how can I see what it's trying to do currently? (to decide whether that's worth it)
[20:54] <vlt> nehemiah: I don’t understand the issue here.
[20:54] <nehemiah> My users will just grab any computer laying around and make a computer lab out of it with some instructions. Creating a raid or anything like that will be out of their reach. Also, I'm not worried about the LTSP install since the automated install will fix that in less than an hour.
[20:54] <nehemiah> We'll, the idea is that the user just plugs in a hard drive.
[20:54] <nehemiah> Maybe with a specific label
[20:55] <nehemiah> The lab will recognize it on say a cronjob
[20:55] <nehemiah> And start rsyncing /home to it on a regular interval.
[20:55] <nehemiah> That's the idea I had
[20:55] <nehemiah> But I wonder if somebody has a btter idea.
[20:58] <cheguacamole> If they can plug in a hard drive surely they can manage some other check list for R.A.I.D. also
[21:04] <Katronix> Hi all, can someone tell me which file I need to successfully do a ./configure for gtk+ to get rid of the XInput2 extension not found error?
[21:04] <mojtaba> Hello, I am in a LAN with network address 192.168.2.x, and I am using VPN to connect to another LAN, with the same network address. Do you know what should I do to check the other router's home page? I don't have access to the first router, to change its address.
[21:04] <Katronix> mojtaba, go to its external IP with the right port to see the router page
[21:04] <nacc> Katronix: libxi-dev maybe?
[21:05] <Katronix> nacc trying it out :)
[21:05] <mojtaba> Katronix: I am not sure, what is it's right port.
[21:06] <Katronix> nacc thanks! that fixed it :)
[21:06] <Katronix> mojtaba, do you know what kind of router it is?
[21:06] <nacc> Katronix: yw, it helps to provide exact output in a pastebin; i did a `apt-file search XInput2`
[21:07] <mojtaba> Katronix: Asus
[21:08] <Katronix> mojtaba, check out https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1000926/
[21:09] <Sven_vB> meh. now my syslog is spammed with "Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UDisks2' unit='udisks2.service'¶ Activation via systemd failed for unit 'udisks2.service': Unit udisks2.service is masked." how do I find which service tried to interact with udisks2?
[21:13] <Katronix> so getting ready to make gtk+ and it says its GDK backend is x11, does that mean anything I compile off this version of GTK+ won't work under Wayland?
[21:14] <nacc> Katronix: probably a question for gnome devs
[21:14] <Katronix> nacc, okay thanks!
[21:16] <mojtaba> Katronix: Is there any other solution, because I have not enabled login through WAN, before.
[21:23] <joenuts> Greetings channel, I'm having trouble getting sudo -i to process bash commands same as sudo, any direction is appreciated
[21:23] <joenuts> sudo bash -c 'NETWORK=foo && echo $NETWORK' displays foo, sudo -i bash -c 'NETWORK=foo && echo $NETWORK' displays empty line
[21:23] <joenuts> am I overlooking something simple?
[21:26] <kes0> Dont use sudo while root
[21:27] <joenuts> I didnt think I was using sudo as root, but it appears whether running command as unprivileged user and also root, I get the same behaviour
[21:29] <akik> joenuts: use ${NETWORK} with the echo command
[21:29] <akik> joenuts: i don't know the reason why
[21:29] <joenuts> akik: outstanding!! I was not familiar with the ${} construct to reference variables in bash. many thanks
[21:29] <kes0> joenuts: Ah ok
[21:30] <joenuts> akik: I dont care why, just need to get working, cheers !
[21:30] <soc> hi
[21:31] <soc> I need some help, I can't login anymore, after providing user and pass it just goes to a black screen, and then back to the login screen
[21:31] <soc> I want to paste .xsession-errors to pastebin
[21:32] <soc> can someone tell me how I can copy the text from that file into the clipboard and paste it into links or something?
[21:33] <akik> soc: install pastebinit
[21:35] <soc> ok, got it
[21:35] <soc> thank
[21:35] <soc> here is the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v2n5vNzCKk/
[21:36] <soc> any ideas what's the issue
[21:36] <soc> it's reporting multiple things but I can't figure out the root cause
[21:36] <akik> soc: is your ~/.Xauthority owned by you?
[21:57] <dabba> does anyone have experience with landscape on the premises?  my update_security_db.sh will not run, and I don't need HTTP/HTTPS proxy and have no uppercase in my FQDN which are the only solutions my google-fu has been able to locate: https://askubuntu.com/questions/818983/landscape-alert-script-with-issues-update-security-db-sh  --  anyone ran into this issue before!? pls halp!
[21:59] <dabba> running the script manually completes correctly, nothing stands out in the logs in /var/log/landscape-server/ as far as I can tell but will gladly copy some to PMs if someone wants to take a stab at this issue. :P
[22:06] <azizLIGHT> how do i restrict wmctrl to this current workspace? is there another tool that can list program windows in the current workspace?
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, does the script require sudo to run?
[22:09] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | azizLIGHT
[22:09] <soc> akik: let me see
[22:10] <soc> akik: it's set to ICEAUTHORITY DEFAULT=${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}/ICEauthority in .pam_environment
[22:10] <azizLIGHT> pragmaticenigma: i figured it was ok to repeat since its been like 2 hours
[22:10] <akik> soc: you don't have a ~/.Xauthority at all?
[22:11] <dabba> pragmaticenigma, it runs as user landscape
[22:11] <dabba> pragmaticenigma, running: sudo -u landscape bash -x /opt/canonical/landscape/scripts/update_security_db.sh works just fine
[22:11] <dabba> about 6 hours later i have a notice that it hasn't been run in sometime
[22:12] <soc> akik: it doesn't exist, because I can't login
[22:12] <soc> but the directory is owned by me and writable
[22:12] <soc> (which is a core requirement of XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, does anything show up in the logs? can you redirect the output of the script to a file so you can see if it output's an error
[22:13] <akik> soc: i'm not talking about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR but your own home dir
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT, It's not about the time between, it's that it still exists in recent memory
[22:13] <geirha> soc: .pam_environment is not a script. It will not expand ${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}
[22:14] <azizLIGHT> im posting it for others who joined in between my last post. besides the bot said about repeating quickly
[22:14] <dabba> pragmaticenigma, may I pm you?
[22:15] <soc> geirha: it does. the syntax is a bit weird, but it works.
[22:15] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, it's best to keep the dialog here. there may be others who may benefit from the help
[22:15] <soc> I'm working on my laptop right now, which is exactly setup like that.
[22:15] <dabba> well i didn't want to paste the log data in the channel
[22:15] <soc> akik: my home dir is owned by me and writable, too
[22:15] <dabba> it's a bit spammy
[22:15] <akik> soc: how about ~/.Xauthority ?
[22:16] <soc> (my $HOME is usually read-only, but I made it writable, so that's not the issue)
[22:16] <dabba> when i run the script manually it outputs to the console and downloads and completes fine - when the script runs automatically it errors out without downloading anything every time (every hour) <- pragmaticenigma
[22:16] <akik> soc: why is it read-only?
[22:16] <soc> akik: .Xauthority doesn't exist (and shouldn't)
[22:17] <akik> soc: are you running ubuntu?
[22:17] <soc> akik: I'm sick and tired of random applications dumping their folders into $HOME
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, how is it setup to run automatically? Cron or some other task?
[22:17] <soc> yes, 18.04
[22:17] <soc> both on desktop (that broke) and laptop (which works fine)
[22:17] <dabba> its part of the landscape-server package that we can run privately as 'on-premises' mode to manage our ubuntu machines
[22:17] <dabba> it worked fine for the past 300 or so days since i setup landscape-server
[22:18] <akik> soc: i think you've dug your own grave with your modifications :)
[22:18] <soc> it worked perfectly fine for a year or something
[22:19] <dabba> I assume it's a cron entry but not sure where it is, its not under the landscape user
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> soc, ubuntu 18.04 is beta and shouldn't be used for everyday use yet.
[22:20] <soc> pragmaticenigma: yes, I know, I usually use it because of the more recent openjdk packages
[22:20] <dabba> pragmaticenigma, found it /etc/cron.d/landscape-server has the entry: # Security Updates
[22:20] <dabba> 35 * * * * landscape /opt/canonical/landscape/scripts/update_security_db.sh
[22:20] <soc> pragmaticenigma: I'm often fine with sorting out intermittent issues myself, but I can't seem to sort out this one
[22:20] <pragmaticenigma> soc, in that case, you should go to #ubuntu+1 and ask there. If there is a bug it will help get it resolved before final release
[22:20] <dabba> and like i mentioned when i run it manually as user landscape it completes fine, just the automated execution fails every time
[22:21] <soc> I removed the XAUTHORITY line from .pam_environment, didn't help
[22:21] <soc> ok, thanks, will try that
[22:22] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, add an output redirect to that cron job so it outputs to a text file in a folder where you can find it. Take a look and see if there is an error in the output.
[22:23] <dabba> there is a log file: /var/log/landscape-server/update-security-db.log
[22:23] <dabba> all it has in it is essentially the same message every hour:
[22:23] <dabba> Mar 12 17:36:19 update-security-db INFO  Error downloading USN pickle from https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn-db/database.pickle.bz2
[22:23] <dabba> Mar 12 17:36:19 update-security-db INFO    % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current#012                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed#012#015  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0#015  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0#015  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--  0:00:01 --:--:--
[22:23] <dabba> 0#015  0 14.8M    0 45672    0     0  17530      0  0:14:51  0:00:02  0:14:49 17525#015  0 14.8M    0  104k    0     0  29002      0  0:08:58  0:00:03  0:08:55 29000#015  0 14.8M    0  136k    0     0  27713      0  0:09:23  0:00:05  0:09:18 27715#015  0 14.8M    0  144k    0     0  26191      0  0:09:56  0:00:05  0:09:51 29877#015  1 14.8M    1  160k    0     0  24069      0  0:10:48  0:00:06  0:10:42 31969#015  1 14.8M    1  184k    0     0  24568
[22:23] <dabba>      0  0:10:35  0:00:07  0:10:28 28188#015  1 14.8M    1  216k    0     0  25728      0  0:10:07  0:00:08  0:09:59 23282#015  1 14.8M    1  236k    0     0  25159      0  0:10:20  0:00:09  0:10:11 22
[22:25] <TabMasher> ugh
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, just a suggestion, use pastbin to put those.. it will make it easier to read
[22:26] <TabMasher> dabba: Consider paste bin.
[22:27] <dabba> rgr will do so next time
[22:27] <dabba> the lines are broken in the long so it still would've looked like garbage
[22:27] <dabba> but i'll keep it out of chat next time :)
[22:29] <dabba> could it be that every instance of landscape-server that is defaulted to checking that pickle every 35th minute of every hour is causing my download to die?  I'm going to change it to 45 minutes and monitor
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, is it possible your running low on disk space? I don't see why it can't download in the cron job, but can download manually
[22:29] <dabba> no disk space issues
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, it is possible that the source server only allows downloads every X number of minutes
[22:30] <yaskina> what is the terminal commands for the swap setting
[22:31] <dabba> yeah but it fails for days on end, without completeing, but when I login and manually run it (at times other than the schedule time) it completes quickly with no issue.  I suspect the response is truly taking too long like the log says, so I'll get the update at a non-default time
[22:31] <yaskina> wish they would just add it to the gui
[22:31] <dabba> and maybe it'll work... i might follow up with ya, pragmaticenigma, if you care to hear about the outcome
[22:31] <dabba> I've got to head off to class at the moment unfortunately, didn't realize the time!
[22:33] <pragmaticenigma> dabba, good luck... maybe the different time will help. feel free to report back when you find out
[22:44] <strength> anyone know a good channel for uefi support?
[22:45] <Kolotun13> Hello world. ;)
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[22:54] <sere> is the a ppa for android studio?
[22:55] <bazhang> sere, a quick web search says yes
[22:56] <pragmaticenigma> strength, ask your question here, someone may have the answer
[23:01] <strength> pragmaticenigma, well, tahnks. i'm trying to clean install win10 with the latest .iso on a macpro4,1 [flashed to 5,1 with high sierra]. i can get the uefi based usb to start the installer, but the installer just BSOD at the windows icon loading screen...
[23:02] <akik> strength: does the usb stick work on some other computer?
[23:06] <soc> ok, thanks to everyone involved, looks like the read-only $HOME was not the culprit in this case
[23:07] <soc> btw, here is the guide I wrote on making $HOME read-only: https://soc.github.io/articles/linux/self-defense-against-dotfiles.html
[23:07] <akik> soc: what do you use your home dir for?
[23:08] <vitalii> привет
[23:08] <akik> !ru
[23:08] <vitalii> спасб
[23:09] <vitalii>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[23:09] <soc> akik: for the usual stuff, audio, code, video, documents, config, cache etc.
[23:10] <akik> soc: but if you keep it read-only?
[23:11] <soc> yes. the directories underneath are writable
[23:12] <akik> ah just the $HOME
[23:12] <akik> so you don't mount it read-only
[23:12] <vitalii> где там набрать ? /join #ubuntu-ru?
[23:12] <akik> vitalii: please write in english
[23:13] <soc> no, I just did chmod $HOME -200
[23:14] <akik> soc: i hope your apps get fixed before there'll be a new standard :)
[23:14] <vitalii> my language russian. I speek bad eng
[23:15] <akik> vitalii: try
[23:16] <vitalii> how add this chanal t/join #ubuntu-ru
[23:16] <akik> vitalii: you are on that channel already
[23:17] <soc> akik: which new standard?
[23:17] <akik> soc: the standard that comes after xdg
[23:18] <akik> soc: i just mean that it might not be possible for all your apps to be updated to xdg standard
[23:18] <soc> well, I'm not too troubled about that. I don't think that any future standard would be a regression compared to xdg
[23:18] <soc> akik: yeah, I write pacthes from time to time to get apps fixed
[23:18] <soc> nano for instance doesn't use .nano and .nanorc anymore
[23:19] <soc> got the patch in last year
[23:19] <soc> same for coursier
[23:19] <soc> currently looking into cargo
[23:21] <CodeBug> hey room hows it going?
[23:24] <CodeBug> I take it no one is in?
[23:24] <nacc> CodeBug: not a chitchat room, ask a support question if you have one
[23:25] <TabMasher> 1.5k people here, just waiting for an ubuntu question.
[23:27] <TabMasher> CodeBug: There's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:27] <strength> most guys probably have irc running at work
[23:28] <TabMasher> Or at home, while at work.  :D
[23:31] <Frankfurt_Soup> I have it running on my mobile at work :-)
[23:37] <CodeBug> lol didn't know that
[23:39] <cheguacamole> they all went to molo anyway
[23:47] <Draconiator> I bet even modern digital watches have some form of linux in them...heh
[23:48] <strength> they make watches in hexadecimal now?
[23:49] <oerheks> no, internet-time .. but this goes offtopic
[23:50] <strength> the internet has a time?
[23:51] <oerheks> jups, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/88939
[23:52] <cheguacamole> could that be the time in hexadecimal
[23:52] <oerheks> old, 2007, don't worry
[23:52] <cheguacamole> oops sorry wrong channel
[23:52] <kostkon> strength, google 'internet time swatch'
[23:54] <neredsenvy> Anyone knows of software to remap keyboard keys
[23:54] <neredsenvy> something with a UI
[23:54] <Budgii__> yes
[23:54] <Budgii__> Oh, i'm in ubuntu channel, sorry neredsenvy
[23:54] <Budgii__> I do have an idea though!
[23:54] <Budgii__> xdotool and assign keys to the xdotool script?
[23:56] <neredsenvy> I was hoping for something with an UI for easy work
[23:56] <Budgii__> What extent of remapping are you needing?
[23:56] <Budgii__> I was going to suggest Autohotkey but this is linux
[23:57] <neredsenvy> 9 keys need remapping
[23:57] <Budgii__> just to other keys?
[23:58] <oerheks> on what ubuntu version, and for global use or application?
[23:58] <neredsenvy> Yes I have some keys on laptop keyboard that stopped working and id like to remap them
[23:58] <neredsenvy> global
[23:58] <Budgii__> give me one key and i'll try it
[23:58] <neredsenvy> ubuntu 17.10
[23:58] <Budgii__> what key, and what key to have it remapped to
[23:59] <oerheks> hmm the screen keyboard would be helpfull