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| Kali_Yuga | hello there should be an option 'get new looks': https://www1.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=10474254. apparently it's missing on mine https://www1.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=19832668 running kcmshell5 kcm_lookandfeel | 00:33 |
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| Kali_Yuga | results in https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDk8hCbDP2/ | 00:33 |
| Kali_Yuga | maybe it's my version 5.8.9..? | 00:36 |
| valorie | Kali_Yuga: which version of kubuntu? | 00:40 |
| Kali_Yuga | 16.04 | 00:41 |
| Kali_Yuga | with backports ppa | 00:41 |
| valorie | I have two available for me in plasma 5.12.3 | 00:41 |
| valorie | could be, yes | 00:41 |
| valorie | have you tried the download button to get more choices? | 00:41 |
| valorie | "get new looks" | 00:42 |
| Kali_Yuga | that button is missing on mine | 00:42 |
| valorie | oh right | 00:43 |
| valorie | I only clicked on your first link, sorry | 00:43 |
| Kali_Yuga | running | 00:44 |
| Kali_Yuga | kcmshell5 kcm_lookandfeel results in https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDk8hCbDP2/ | 00:44 |
| valorie | when you click down though, can you get desktop, cursor, etc.? | 00:44 |
| Kali_Yuga | yes I can get a new theme there | 00:45 |
| valorie | possibly that kcm has been remade in the nearly 2 years since 16.04 was released | 00:45 |
| valorie | that's one of the issues with running an LTS | 00:45 |
| Kali_Yuga | thats why i added the backports ppa to get a more recent version. | 00:46 |
| valorie | right, but we can only do that in specific instances where things still work together | 00:47 |
| valorie | we won't backport things we can't test and find successful | 00:48 |
| valorie | you'll be able to upgrade to the next LTS this summer | 00:49 |
| valorie | or even late spring | 00:49 |
| Kali_Yuga | so why exaclty is this feature missing | 00:49 |
| valorie | whenever 18.04.1 comes out | 00:49 |
| valorie | plasma relies on kde frameworks | 00:50 |
| Kali_Yuga | if it;s not to buggy | 00:50 |
| valorie | so it's not a matter of just backporting plasma | 00:50 |
| valorie | at a certain point it's just not workable | 00:50 |
| valorie | we have an all volunteer crew here | 00:50 |
| valorie | and if it is a choice between patching stuff to work on the old LTS or working on the next one, guess what wins? | 00:51 |
| valorie | this is why I use LTS only for testing and always run current or the next version | 00:52 |
| valorie | I like new stuff | 00:52 |
| Kali_Yuga | I think old software is sometimes more stable less buggy | 00:52 |
| valorie | it's always a balancing act, yeah | 00:52 |
| Kali_Yuga | so why exactly was this feature missing? because of the lts or a bug? | 00:54 |
| valorie | no idea really | 00:55 |
| valorie | it looks like a new design to me | 00:55 |
| valorie | but really, no clue | 00:55 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:03 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | Wattana Gaming was added by: Wattana Gaming | 14:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> hi everyone i have trouble scrolling in kubuntu | 14:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> the scrolling is terribly slow in kde app but any other app is normal | 14:11 |
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| lordievader | Wattana: What is the output of `sudo lspci -k`? | 14:14 |
| lordievader | !pastebin | 14:14 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hYsDBFfxDB/ | 14:16 |
| lordievader | How did you install the nvidia driver? Both nvidia and nouveau are loaded. | 14:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> I install it using the driver manager | 14:29 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that should blacklist nouveau | 14:31 |
| lordievader | Follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia | 14:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> ok I have followed the instructions. what to do now? | 14:36 |
| lordievader | Did you reboot? | 14:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> ok i have rebooted | 14:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> still didnt fix 😞 | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | looked to me like the nvidia driver was in use ...nouveau was just listed as a kernel module | 14:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> I think we're going too far from the terrible scroll speed now :/ . | 14:50 |
| lordievader | Wattana: Could you send (fresh) output from `sudo lspci -k` again? | 14:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> Here: … [sudo] password for wattana: … 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1450 … Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 1450 … 00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1451 … Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1451 … 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 … 00:01.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [A | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | 1453 … Kernel driver in use: pcieport … Kernel modules: shpchp … 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 … 00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 … 00:03.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1453 … Kernel driver in use: pcieport … Kernel modules: shpchp … 00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 | 14:57 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Two kernel modules claiming the same hardware sounds like a bad idea to me. | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 … 00:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1454 … Kernel driver in use: pcieport … Kernel modules: shpchp … 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1452 … 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1454 … Kernel driver in use: pcieport … Kernel modules: shpchp … 00:14.0 SMBus: Adva | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 59) … Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation FCH SMBus Controller … Kernel driver in use: piix4_smbus … Kernel modules: i2c_piix4, sp5100_tco … 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51) … Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation FCH LPC Bridge … 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1460 … 00:18.1 Host bridge | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1461 … 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1462 … 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1463 … 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1464 … 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1465 … 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1466 … 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, I | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | Device 1467 … 03:00.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 43bc (rev 02) … Subsystem: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1142 … Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd … 03:00.1 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 43b8 (rev 02) … Subsystem: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1062 … Kernel driver in use: ahci … Kernel modules: ahci … 03:00.2 PCI bridge: Advanced M | 14:57 |
| lordievader | Could you pastebin that? This is not readable. | 14:58 |
| lordievader | As a rule of thumb, if you want to paste more than 1 line of console output, paste it via a pastebin. | 14:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> https://pastebin.com/ZhLpjszg | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | the kernel modules exist together but only one is being used, seems nouveau and nvidia can exist as modules, but nouveau is obviously blacklisted. Check in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to be sure | 15:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> https://imgur.com/QNdVSzA … https://imgur.com/n0LvLPa | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | anyway gotta go | 15:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> and whatabout my slow scrolling speed? | 15:10 |
| marshwallow | Installing GRUB on a BIOS laptop with a GPT disk... should I use a separate partition or --force install to /dev/sda? | 16:56 |
| mparillo | Hoping somebody answers because I thought GPT was for EFI. | 16:58 |
| marshwallow | I've been told the same at ##linux, but apparently it's used for 2+ TB drivers, regardless of the underlying firmware interface. | 16:59 |
| marshwallow | *drives | 17:00 |
| lordievader | Bios installs on a GPT disk requires a bios partition. | 17:04 |
| vladoboss | does anyone else have noticed that kubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso have invalid sha256sum? | 17:05 |
| lordievader | marshwallow: Read through: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks#Introduction_to_block_devices | 17:06 |
| vladoboss | I downloaded it twiece from different mirrors, both time it complaints about missing files | 17:06 |
| vladoboss | https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPR1Qr30qTG | 17:07 |
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| xaeB5 | if i want both kde and non-kde packages to be recent, would kubuntu be a better option than kde-neon? | 17:40 |
| BluesKaj | kde-neon might be more current, but less stable | 17:41 |
| xaeB5 | more stable in what way? doesn't stability in the linux world mean fewer updates? | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | xaeB5, no | 17:44 |
| xaeB5 | ok, that's what it means in debian at least | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | this isn't a debate, if you want to try neon do so w | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | we don't support it here | 17:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> who's having the same glitched font as me? https://imgur.com/oYjqUjghttps://imgur.com/oYjqUjg | 17:45 |
| xaeB5 | you don't seem to understand my question because you're making assumptions like "try neon" when i am already using neon | 17:46 |
| xaeB5 | i didn't ask for neon support, did i | 17:46 |
| xaeB5 | i asked for clarification on what you mean by "less stable" because i've never had stability issues with neon or kubuntu both | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | then go ask in #kde-neon chat | 17:47 |
| xaeB5 | ask what? about kubuntu? | 17:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> ok guys calm down i dont want any fighting to happen | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | we don't compare them here , we support kubuntu | 17:48 |
| xaeB5 | read my question again please. "would kubuntu be a better option". you want me to ask that in kde-neon? lol | 17:48 |
| xaeB5 | then support kubuntu and answer the question. how is it more stable? | 17:48 |
| BluesKaj | xaeB5, no need, we do polls here, try dual booting them and decide for yourself | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | don't do polls rather | 17:49 |
| xaeB5 | if there's no need to explain what your vague answer is supposed to mean, maybe you shouldn't have said it if you don't want any follow up questions | 17:49 |
| xaeB5 | i am not taking polls | 17:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> now guys lemme explain: Kubuntu may be a bit older in KDE version but its more complete and have essential app to do whatever you want | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | don't know how it's more stable, we just know that neon is more bleeding edge | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | bleeding edge generally means less stable | 17:51 |
| xaeB5 | it could also be argued that kubuntu is more bleeding edge and therefore less stable. after all, it has newer non-kde packages than neon | 17:51 |
| xaeB5 | so your answer didn't make sense | 17:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> so Kubuntu is the best choice for home users. But if you wanna just go and add PPAand download your own favortie app then go for neon | 17:51 |
| * BluesKaj shrugs , well have fun whatever you do | 17:52 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> btw kubuntu is basicly ubuntu using kde plasma and other kde app so kubuntu = ubuntu | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | Wattana Gaming, kubuntu is not ubuntu, not any more, it's now supported by Blue Systems | 17:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> Oh | 17:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> thx for correnting that | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | Wattana Gaming, yw | 17:58 |
| xaeB5 | kubuntu is an official ubuntu flavour though. https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours | 17:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> well anyway it based off ubuntu | 18:00 |
| xaeB5 | same with neon | 18:00 |
| xaeB5 | just not an official flavour | 18:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> and it need a user installed software. it only come with kde apps, no office suit or music player so... R.I.P. Mr. Neon lol | 18:01 |
| BluesKaj | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems | 18:01 |
| xaeB5 | wattana: you do realize that kubuntu and neon have the same developers that work on both, right? | 18:03 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> Nani wtf? how did the said dev come out and make his/her own distro? | 18:04 |
| vip | hi ho, anybody lost dual-display @ intel recently after apt upgrade? | 18:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> ...no? i use nvidia | 18:33 |
| vip | it works well under nvidia (i've got intel/nvidia inside) | 18:34 |
| xaeB5 | you could check dmesg to see if there's any useful info there | 18:36 |
| xaeB5 | dmesg | grep -i firmware for example | 18:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> im no kubuntu pro but i recommend use the nvidia card if you can. it often give out more FPS | 18:36 |
| vip | I suppose linux-* packages had broken something; when selecting previous kernel - dial display does not work either | 18:36 |
| Mrokii_ | I've just noticed a strange phenomenon, with Cantata, the mpd client. When I ran a game via Steam, Cantata was muted (even though the timeline showed that the song was played). When I quit the game, Cantatas' sound was activated again. I tried Clementine for testing-purposes, and it played a song just fine with the Steam-game running. So that seems to be something specific to Cantata. Does anybody have any | 18:45 |
| Mrokii_ | clue why the "muting" is happening? | 18:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> probably the same phenomenon as wine program mute any other media | 18:47 |
| Mrokii_ | IrcsomeBot: I'm not sure, as the sound is only muted for Catana, but not for Clementine. | 18:49 |
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| dubis | Hi I'm under bionics and I can not find discover | 19:00 |
| dubis | What's the deb paquet file | 19:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> im no expert but you should not even upgrade to that version as it is still in beta stage | 19:01 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> I'll try to find it | 19:01 |
| dubis | OK I found sudo apt install plasma-discover | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> did it work? … btw i found the deb @ https://pkgs.org/download/plasma-discover | 19:03 |
| dubis | @Wattana Gaming yes it's | 19:03 |
| dubis | @Wattana Gaming Thanks | 19:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> yw | 19:04 |
| vip | ok, I need to apt instal --reinstall intel microcode package to get dual display back on intel | 19:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Wattana Gaming> congrats | 19:17 |
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| valorie | yikes, people downloading software from random sites.... | 21:28 |
| openBrain | Hi all, I just tried KDEConnect 1.0 from testing PPA on Xenial and despite kdeconnect-cli upgraded to 1.0 and now has the "send SMS option" (working), I can't access this feature from the Plasma widgets of KDEConnect. May someone confirm before I envisage to submit a bug ? Thx | 22:00 |
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| schnoodles | Any idea the best way to work out why automounting is not working anymore? Was working for ages then for the last couple weeks (could be months) I need to mount myself through Dolphin. | 23:12 |
| valorie | automounting of what, schnoodles? | 23:15 |
| valorie | did your fstab maybe get over-written or corrupted? | 23:16 |
| schnoodles | Sorry automounting of a hdd. Its an internal harddrive but its not my main hdd. | 23:16 |
| schnoodles | As in not the SSD that the OS is on. | 23:16 |
| valorie | hmmm | 23:17 |
| schnoodles | valorie I am not quite sure. I remember it happened after a quite large update. | 23:17 |
| valorie | should automount for sure | 23:17 |
| valorie | !fstab | 23:17 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions | 23:17 |
| schnoodles | I just use the Remote Devises section under system settings. It still says that the harddrive is set for automount however it does not mount. Which makes me think it could be an error where its not ready? | 23:18 |
| schnoodles | dmesg shows me nothing though. | 23:18 |
| valorie | not ready or has the wrong permissions set | 23:18 |
| valorie | something somehow could have flipped that bit | 23:18 |
| valorie | I imagine the above two links will help you diagnose | 23:19 |
| schnoodles | Yeah it seems fstab has been overwritten and the System Settings section is not writing to fstab. I wonder if that is a new bug. | 23:23 |
| valorie | hmmm | 23:23 |
| valorie | well, gotta go for awhile | 23:24 |
| schnoodles | Cya. Thanks for the help | 23:24 |
| valorie | I think this calls for bugs.kde.org against systemsettings | 23:24 |
| valorie | if it is a bug | 23:24 |
| schnoodles | I run backports. Could be a new bug in backports ? | 23:25 |
| valorie | I don't think this is our packaging because you are the first to ask about this -- at least here | 23:25 |
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