[00:11] Aowwwww [00:11] I have Lubuntu installed on an HP notebook and the hdmi port isn't sending av to my tv. Can someone assist? [00:11] hello. i just installed ubuntu 16.04 on a thinkpad x220. it has both a pointing stick (trackpoint) and a touchpad. is it possible to configure x to use the touchpad only for mouse button clicks but not completely disable it (also preferably make the whole touchpad work as the secondary button)? i can do this in windows using lenovo's trackpoint driver package [00:11] thing is the trackpoint's right button is broken [00:11] and i don't want to buy a replacement keyboard+trackpoint module right now [00:12] porpetaaaaa [00:12] in windows it's easy to work around this by abusing the touchpad as a big right button :P [00:13] anybody to talk with me even if gay [00:13] i'm pretty sure it's possible to this in linux via command line or editing some file but i don't know how [00:18] gadnick: take a look at thinkwiki.org, they have all kinds of thinkpad configurations there. [00:18] ahh, looks like synclient is the command that can be used for tuning synaptics touchpad settings [00:19] libinput replaces it, however [00:19] although 16.04 may still work with synclient, not sure. [00:34] AshleyQuick: did you set the monitor to enabled in the ubuntu settings? [00:36] yeah synclient seems to work well enough for now [00:39] i didn't figure out how to disable movement from the clickpad completely but use it for mouse buttons yet, but setting the vert/horiz hysteresis values high enough makes it usable at least === Jyothis_ is now known as Jyothis [00:53] tomreyn, fail :| === beaver31415 is now known as beaver === pengwens is now known as Guest21112 [01:17] it seems my wifi disconnects at random, i also don't know how to find out what happens [01:20] Kumool: Do you know if your ISP gives you an IPv6 connection? [01:40] should i use ubuntu instead of paying for a windows license for my new setup? [01:41] hello [01:41] hello [01:41] nameloc, your decision, we cannot tell you; this is strictly ubuntu support, not a polling channel [01:42] good day sir [01:42] much apologies [01:46] adrian_1908, probably not [01:48] it seems linux disconnects the device, is there a monitor for devices? [01:49] Kumool: I mentioned IPv6 because some users reported that on IPv4 connection, their Wifi issue got resolved by setting IPv6 Method to "ignore" in the Network Manager. [01:51] i've disabled it, its random so i just have to wait [01:52] but i don't think that's the problem, since its the device itself that disappears, its not a reconnection issue, since the only fix is a reboot [01:52] The IP/Wifi protocols technically shouldn't even affect each other at all, but apparently it has had an effect for some. Probably some oddity in the code. [01:53] Kumool: right, probably something else if the device disappears. [01:53] how do i monitor devices? [01:53] i cant just keep rerunning dmesg [01:54] No idea, I never do that. [01:54] I have a OEM win10 laptop with 2 drives. 256GB SSD and 1TB 7200 RPM. It seems if I install boot loader on sda or sdb EFI partition, it doesn't boot grub. Should I try direct to sda or sdb instead of EFI partitions? [01:55] what do you do? [01:56] any honest men here [01:57] I think tty0 has all the device output but i cant get to it, except on shutdown [01:57] sinistrad: did you use the standard ubuntu installer and the default settings? [01:58] diogenes74, I am a man and have also been called an ahole before, so maybe [01:58] Is there a password restriction on special characters or length when install Ubuntu encrypted? === duxklr is now known as jemurray [01:59] thedanyes, I tried this on 17.10 a couple of months ago. I tried again tonight with 18.04 beta, which I know isn't supported, but the problem is the same, so asking here. [01:59] sinistrad: i'd definitely try LTS before you do anything else, and you didn't answer my question. [01:59] thedanyes, all is default until it comes to partitioning. [02:00] thedanyes, 17.10 was ubuntu. 18.04 is xubuntu. [02:01] wow that will be awesome [02:01] sinistrad: I'd leave all defaults, including partitioning and see if it works that way [02:02] sinistrad: if not, you might try with legacy boot mode (sometimes called 'compatibility support module') enabled in the BIOS [02:03] thedanyes, Okay. I'm thinking default would give me a severely limited amount of drive space with my Windows partition consuming almost all of /dev/sda. I'm having to install it to /dev/sdb. [02:04] !uefi | Sinistrad [02:04] Sinistrad: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [02:05] sinistrad: oh you're trying to do some kind of dual boot configuration? [02:05] Bashing-om, Thanks! I've been reading up trying to work with it or around it. [02:05] sinistrad: i'm completely uninterested in that. it's not going to be a good user experience, no matter what. [02:06] sinistrad: good luck with windows updates not fucking your boot loader [02:06] Sinistrad: I think generally speaking, you'd want to install the bootloader to the EFI partition on 'sda' (SSD) and select Win/Linux at boot time. I don't know why it didn't work for you. [02:06] thedanyes, Correct. Dual boot experience, I've done since the 90s, which has been fine in the past. UEFI threw a wrench into that. [02:07] Sinistrad: Running Win10, you DO want to install in EFI mode; boot codes them march and will not have to choose in the firmware what/how to boot . [02:08] thedanyes, You're exactly correct about windows updates. Recently, I had the Creator's update install itself and wipe the little progress I had on grub partially working. [02:08] match* [02:08] sinistrad: Having to restart the PC, close down all my applications, disconnect all my encrypted shares, shut down my sessions in progress, then boot another OS where I maintain different apps and updates and patches... it's bad, period. [02:08] sinistrad: Run your second OS in a VM or on a second PC. [02:10] thedanyes, I'm going to CarolinaCon next month. I want to get this ready for that hacking conference and usually when I run VMs, the wireless is passed through as a LAN connection, which makes it difficult for the wifi-hacking activities that will ensue =) [02:11] sinistrad: I see [02:11] At night, I want to fire up WoW and pvp. I used to run WoW in wine and had good success, but blizzard has really moved away from openGL [02:12] sinistrad: I maintain a second PC for what few Windows apps I need. I value my time. === jemurray is now known as duxklr === duxklr is now known as jemurray [02:12] thedanyes, I totally understand. I run linux in just about everything else. This is my gaming machine. I am reluctant to carry 2 laptops. [02:13] sinistrad: Windows XP behind it's own dedicated firewall, it's the most recent Windows license I own [02:13] Brb [02:13] Might be able to help with a sec [02:13] Sinistrad: put the bootloaders on different disks then sda/sdb. I did that for my Desktop with 2 SSDs and that seemed to work. [02:13] (With Sinistrad [02:13] But I don't know much about it, it just worked. [02:14] Of course, you'll have to pick the disk at boot time then. [02:15] adrian_1908, are you suggesting bootloaders on something like usb? [02:16] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4WbGjVvh3d/ has the windows listing of my partitions across devices. [02:17] At this point in the story, you pretty much have understanding, but there it is anyhow [02:18] Using "disk 1" Parition 4 for Ubuntu was what I meant. I think that worked for me. [02:18] adrian_1908, I tried that tonight. No dice. [02:19] Sinistrad: what happened? [02:19] Boots into Win10 [02:20] Sinistrad: yes, you'll have to tell your notebook to boot the other disk, but then it should work. I pressed e.g. F8 and selected the disk as a means of selecting my OS. That worked fine. [02:21] adrian_1908, I think I understand what you're saying. I select the disk, the disk reads the EFI partition and directs it to the ubuntu partition. [02:21] Since my time was 95% Linux (set to boot by default), 5% Windows, I didn't perceive it as a hassle to handle this as bootup when needed. [02:22] Sinistrad: yes, that's the idea. Modern BIOSes (is it still a BIOS in UEFI era?) might allow you convenient selection interfaces. [02:23] So hopefully yours is good and you can just press a key during boot and be presented with bootable devices to pick from. [02:24] adrian_1908, So, I'd have grub allow me a choice of disk, then I'd get EFI to boot from that disk to point at ubuntu. [02:24] I'll have to hack away at that a bit to see if I can get it to comply. [02:25] What's wrong Sinistrad? [02:25] adrian_1908, Yes. I'll have to set bootable flags on both SDA and SDB. I'll remember that too [02:25] Sinistrad: No, you use your BIOS boot device selector to pick the disk with Windows/Linux UEFI and use that to select. Grub doesn't play a role in that case (unless you have multiple Linux installations on sdb). [02:25] You have to run Blizzard games with DirectX9 in Battle.net app Sinistrad [02:25] Also, news doesn't work [02:26] You do that with -dx9 [02:26] adrian_1908, I got ya. Yes. Go into BIOS setup utility (because I'm old and still call it that) and select the bootable drive. I understand. Thanks for clarifying [02:26] 64-bit client works fine in latest wine, with Mono & Gecko installed, as well as corefonts, windows version set to 7 (already default) [02:26] Sinistrad: Windows would be left alone on sda without any chance of corrupting Ubuntu/Grub on sdb. [02:26] Also make sure the wineprefix is on an SSD [02:27] Sinistrad: I want to call it BIOS too, I don't know what else to call it. [02:27] stevendale, Oh does it? I'd be happy to wipe Win10 off of here. [02:28] stevendale, I only use it for playing WoW. I had even considered installing a Type1 Hypervisor on it to try to get as close to bare metal without dealing with the UEFI stuff. [02:28] Yeah it does ^^ Though I'd recommend dual booting with Ubuntu then trying it out, and then copying the game across to the wine prefix in ya home directory, and then booting off the LiveUSB and removing the old Win10 partition (assuming it works) [02:29] stevendale, And you're kinda where I'm at then. If I get ubuntu running on here, I'd just link to my WoW folder on Windows, with some tweaks to WTF config to let it run in linux, and if I was satisfied with it, migrate it all to ubuntu. [02:30] stevendale, This laptop has 1060 GTX vid card in it. It would be a shame not to use it. [02:33] Hi [02:33] Thank you everyone for the great tips. I'm going to start working on those tips to see if I can make headway on this system. As I'm rebooting, I'll not be on irc. [02:33] Whats up folks [02:34] Is anybody here inro diapers/farta? [02:34] Woops wrong channel [02:35] That should be interesting. I [02:36] I've not see a hostmask ban on irc for ipv6 (if that's what I'm seeing). [02:36] Have fun, folks. [02:38] Tl;dr [02:54] Tomorrow is a wonderful day than today [02:56] ryuusei: i dunno about that, it's a wednesday and it's supposed to be 31 degrees [02:56] luxio, F or C? :P [02:57] (F)reedom units :) [02:57] plus that's the only one that makes sense in context [02:58] Let's move this to offtopic [02:58] !ot | stevendale [02:58] stevendale, please see my private message [02:59] luxio : It is hot, I live in Tokyo. The tree called cherry blossoms is beautiful === rob is now known as RobWilco [03:09] do you think the new AIs will be my friend? [03:09] i need friends [03:11] strength : I think AIs will be a good friend [03:12] I want it [03:31] Hello, I'm trying to create a route through https, I'm just wondering which is the standard and more efficient way a. https://example.com or b https://example.com:443. [03:52] i need help please [03:52] my ubuntu is trying to upgrade to 17.10 but it says that when its doing the new software channels, it says that it cannot complete the upgrade and stops [04:08] tar -cvf "$dir" --directory=var/www/ is failing with an error of refusing to create an empty archive. is my syntax wrong ? [04:17] can anybody help me when i try to download a file it says tmp cant be read? === LabMunkeh is now known as Mechanismus [04:32] other than synaptic, is there a GUI package manager somewhere? [04:32] I'm currently on 17.10 [04:33] there's a GUI called "software", but it doesn't show updates and it doesn't show search results from unofficial repositories such as PPAs or internal repos [04:33] aptitude is a pretty good curses based manager [04:33] Mutsumi: oh, yeah, I forgot about aptitude [04:34] bit of a shame that synaptic's fallen by the wayside, but that's life [04:48] I'm getting spammed in private messages using the n-word after joining this IRC [04:48] wtf? [04:48] joining this channel* [04:49] hello [04:49] I'm in need of some assistance. [04:49] ? [04:49] Guest3490: go ahead [04:49] Guest3490, dial 911 [04:49] Guest3490: What do you need help with? [04:50] NuttyNutterson: join #ubuntu-ops and give them the nickname [04:51] unless it was one of those two k-lines, in which case it's all sorted [04:53] Im having trouble spoofing my MAC. even when i run service network-manager stop then macchanger [04:54] i get this in return [04:54] [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Too many open files in system [04:59] . [04:59] anyone around that's familiar with network-manager-openvpn on 17.10/18.04? [05:01] really weird issue where i can connect to my OpenVPN server, send tcp and udp traffic over the tunnel but i can't receive any tcp responses [05:02] server is known working, tested using the same ovpn profile on win10, macOS, debian, etc.. [05:02] tcpdump and nginx logs confirm my requests are making it to the server(s) and they are sending responses back [05:06] Hey guys, theres this package that I need an arm version for [05:06] How could I compile it for arm? [05:10] eraserpencil: add the arm repo then add at the end : [05:10] like sudo apt-get install something:i386 for 32bit [05:10] !arm [05:10] ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel. [05:10] thanks === nullset is now known as Guest34014 === SysGh_st is now known as SysGhost [05:36] hi, I am trying to setup a printer, I logged in as a user that has system administrator ... but the 'unlock' on the printer preferences is ghosted how do I fix this? [05:37] neildugan, stephen hawkings just died and you are worried about a printer? [05:38] It's the beginning of the end now, you understand mate? [05:38] that is a pitty he was very cleaver, but yes i ma [05:38] !ot | Codsworth [05:38] Codsworth: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [05:38] neildugan: wich printer brand and ubuntu version? === KimuSan^_ is now known as KimuSan^ [05:40] lotuspsychje, ubuntu artful printer doesn't matter yet.. I can do anything [05:40] lotuspsychje, ubuntu artful printer doesn't matter yet.. I can't do anything [05:41] lotuspsychje, I am in the lpadmin group [05:46] does anybody get tmp cant be read errors downloading files [05:46] on firefox [05:49] !printer | neildugan [05:49] neildugan: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu [05:53] lotuspsychje, I am not having trouble printing... that is working... I am having trouble unlocking the preferences window so I can configure another printer. [05:56] neildugan: How about a link to a screen shot so we see what you're issue looks like? [06:00] gt8ost4l: details plz? ubuntu version? firefox version? what happens when? [06:02] lotuspsychje: ubuntu 17.10 and firefox 58.0.2 when i tried to right click i get a dialog saying tmp cants be read [06:03] cant* [06:06] gt8ost4l: sounds like you've messed the permissions on your /tmp [06:07] Triffid_Hunter: if so what do i do [06:07] gt8ost4l: what does stat -c '%a %U:%G' /tmp say? should be 1777 root:root === sauvin_ is now known as bocaneri [06:09] Triffid_Hunter: can you elaborare with quotes? [06:09] elaborate [06:10] oh nevermind [06:11] gt8ost4l: https://bpaste.net/show/6b7574b62fb7 ? [06:12] Triffid_Hunter: yeah its correct [06:12] 1777 [06:14] wine3.0 [06:17] .. === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:39] hey === Swish[\] is now known as Swish === klimt_ is now known as klimt === PleXs is now known as UsQUE === ianychoi__ is now known as ianychoi === Leion1 is now known as Leion [07:05] I have some more data.. If I directly log into the computer I can easily change the printer preferences etc... if I log in remotely, I cant change a thing... how do I fix this? [07:06] hello [07:07] I see a purple screen after entering login password till the desktop launches [07:08] why is it happening ? [07:08] how can i stop it ? === sheepsleeek is now known as Sheepsleek === tarator85 is now known as tarator [07:24] himadri_: Have u upgrade the system? [07:25] yes [07:26] kes0: I did. [07:27] i have one more issue. [07:27] himadri_: Ok, have a new driver for gpu? [07:27] kes0: no. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [07:29] himadri_: Hm okey [07:29] this happens on wayland as well as xorg [07:30] and also after entering the login password it takes too long to launch the desktop [07:31] nearly about more than a minute [07:32] and i think it's too slow having a core i7 processor [07:32] himadri_: Okey, well i dont know what to do [07:33] It should work i think [07:35] kes0: thanks === marin is now known as Guest79650 [07:40] himadri_: yw [07:46] neildugan: remotely how? [07:47] In ubuntu mate for Raspberry PI the SSH keeps on disabling itself and then I have to run raspi-config and enable it again. Why does it switch itself off? === Leion1 is now known as Leion [07:55] I have Acer Aspire.Does hibernation in 16.04 work? Ubuntu 16.04 boots after hibernation. Problem: no display! [07:56] join #css [07:56] join #css [07:56] does hibernation alter boot sequence? Thanks. === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [08:01] Hi! friends! This place is unusually silent. [08:02] ksbalaji, patience please [08:02] ksbalaji: ubuntu has users from all different timezones === Leion1 is now known as Leion [08:05] Hi [08:05] I have been thinking something [08:05] pikapika: try to think all in one line this time [08:06] Lol ok, I'll try. [08:08] Concering the fact that X11 apparently doesent have any "special treatment" for lock screens, what is currently the safest locking app? I currently use the default xfce that comes with xfce. Also, being that it is just another app, nothing special...what is stopping an evil app from creating a lookalike and taking in the keypress or something like that? [08:08] *default xscreensaver === flavia is now known as Guest63160 [08:16] pikapika: if you want a discussion on that, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic [08:17] pikapika: but nothing is stopping an app from doing that [08:17] ok [08:18] So are there any plans to add this to the X11? I mean X11 would be hard to change but the problem is a serious one too [08:19] lotuspsychje, though LTSP [08:19] pikapika: that's probably not possible [08:20] lotuspsychje, does it really matter, I just want to be disable or get around what ever is deciding to limit my access. [08:25] There seems to be a serious security issue being discussed here. But I fail to understand how any app can take over or fake a screen when the entire system is fully guarded against intruding apps?! [08:28] ksbalaji: this is off-topic, but which system are you talking about? [08:28] ducasse, our ubuntu os ofcourse. [08:29] Don't mix up stuff, locksceens are not meant to secure a system, they are just a basic protection for local access [08:30] anyone with local access can do anything with a running system [08:30] ksbalaji: why do you think it is "fully guarded against intruding apps"? [08:31] if you want this secure, you need an encrypted filesystem with hibernate [08:31] but this won't keep you safe against harware keyloggers etc.. [08:36] ducasse, linux systems are fully guarded in the sense, one may have to install an app before it could intrude or mimic other apps. This installation is also subject to scrutiny. Isn't this correct? [08:37] dear friends [08:38] ialways get an error after reboot an being in my account on raspi2 with ubuntu-mate [08:39] Now I seek help for my problem :) - I have Acer Aspire.Does hibernation in 16.04 work? Ubuntu 16.04 boots after hibernation. Problem: no display! [08:39] i did a screenshot perhaps you can help please [08:41] ksbalaji, i know of kernelissues with hibernate, but i can't tell you if that's the case with 16.04 [08:41] ion__: What errors exactly? [08:41] since kernel 4.15 my issues with hibernate are gone [08:41] Amm0n, thanks for your observation. [08:42] always show me an script error while opening the welcome window [08:42] ksbalaji, try to find errors in journal or Xorg.0.log [08:44] Amm0n, unfortunately, after an unsuccessful booting after hibernation, the journal is recovered, which means that the incidental information is lost. [08:45] journalctl -b 3 should cover this too [08:46] ksbalaji: 'sudo mkdir /var/log/journal' to turn on persistent journal [08:46] oops :( [08:54] Amm0n, since I have kernel 4.13 in ubuntu 16.0 [08:54] 4, I presume that I still have problems with hibernation! [08:57] ksbalaji, https://askubuntu.com/questions/996217/black-screen-after-hibernation [08:58] last comment [08:58] Amm0n, ah! thanks for the link! [09:16] Now that I have got kernel 4.14 installed, I am quitting to restart and test hibernation. Thanks and bye! [09:25] So my ftsab entry trashes boot procedure of the entire OS... teh hell? [09:25] is there a fstab log I can go read somewhere? === renato is now known as Guest29235 === renato_ is now known as Guest81172 === Guest81172 is now known as firefox === firefox is now known as firefox66 [09:40] amore [09:41] ops [09:43] in an LTS version of Ubuntu something like PHP doesn't change version, right? [09:43] zetheroo: correct [09:44] zetheroo: true for any ubuntu release [09:44] how should I fix this ? https://pastebin.com/6tsFe7Bv [09:45] uninstalling ceph-deploy might work [09:45] nwe: "ceph-base_12.2.4-1xenial_amd64.deb" isn't an Ubuntu package, so presumably it's a 3rd party repo [09:46] it´s from ceph-guys [09:46] and they are obviously conflicting with the ceph-* packages from ubuntu's repo [09:47] So in Ubuntu 16.04 we have php 7.0, but it's EOL is Dec 2018 - so what happens from then on with PHP 7.0 in Ubuntu 16.04 ? [09:49] Ubuntu 16.04 is supported with security updates until 2021, so php 7.0 is running for another 2 years ... without security patches? [09:50] Can anyone advise what programs would I use for a local server that would print a selected pdf file from a list on a local printer? [09:50] well, no upstream security patches at least [09:50] zetheroo: 'it depends' - we get this across many packages, it depends how critical they are and what maintenance workload would be as to what is done [09:51] TJ-: Is there an Ubuntu/Canonical policy on this ? [09:52] matthew: lp? [09:52] I guess the main concern is that the software is still getting security issues fixed as needed [09:53] otherwise it's a case of potentially running insecure versions of software - which especially for webservers seems like a bad idea [09:54] zetheroo: That's the point of the LTS versions. To backport security fixes. [09:54] for example, at an orchestra rehearsal player uses smartphone, selects the wifi channel for server, index.html file has a list, any item selected would immediately print out. Thanks [09:54] vlt: the issue zetheroo is bringing up is what happens when upstream is no longer making security fixes [09:55] zetheroo: I'm sure I've seen a policy in the dim distant past, or got memories of a similar transition for another LTS - possibly for PHP5 - but can't recall what it was now [09:57] vlt: I heard of this before - backports - is this when, for example, a security issue is found for php7.2 and if it also effects php7.0 then the patch is applied also to the supported Ubuntu version still using 7.0? [09:57] TJ-: I was under the impression that it's Canonical responsibility as long as the pkg is in main. They would've to check if a security patch for a higher upstream version applies to the LTS supported one. [10:00] vlt: right, but we've had issues in the past where it makes more sense to move to another supported upstream version. Depends on the complexity [10:01] TJ-: But generally that is what it initially attempted - to backport the security fix where applicable? [10:02] I don't think javascript is the way to go and I am not familiar with php but I think I will have to go with apache and php unless anyone has any other suggestions [10:02] zetheroo: yes of course, but as we don't have any PHP devs, some issues might be beyond the competence level - if there's a few then moving to an upstream supported version might be the recommended procedure [10:04] matthew: You should be able to do that with raw HTML and a POST to a CGI shell/Perl script (complexity depends if you need to dynamically generate the initial HTML lists) [10:04] TJ-: Is there a way to know if the later is the case? Like if some major security issues are not being applied to a previous version ... [10:04] That makes sense TJ thanks. The list is static so it should be easier. [10:05] would I be able to use webfs; not sure if POST is supported on that. [10:05] matthew: In my dim memory from about 10 years ago I think I came across a CGI script did something similar, but not sure what search terms would locate it! [10:06] zetheroo: Like I said I thought I saw a policy but I may be mistaken; I do recall about 5-10 years ago a developer discussion when this happened [10:06] Also does POST do a server-side action or is is at the client end. [10:07] matthew: HTTP POST sends data from client to server which has to do the operation [10:07] matthew: do you want the smartphone to drive the printer? [10:07] no the printer is lp and it can be run from shell script [10:07] i'm trying to launch some app, and i get unable to copy ~/.Xauthority [10:07] matthew: right, I was going to say... phones and printers is another can of worms entirely [10:08] (it doesn't exist... so chown'ing it wont matter) [10:08] tester: Ubuntu 17.10? Running Gnome/Wayland? [10:08] Thanks TJ [10:08] TJ- yes, 17.10. no idea if gnome/wayland [10:09] whatever is there by default i guess [10:09] i used to be a kde fan back in the days, but well. [10:09] tester: Gnome/Wayland is the default compositor so there's no X server, which would explain it [10:09] how do i go about launching that app then [10:10] tester: Log-out, choose the "Ubuntu on Xorg" session from the gear icon, log-in (now using X server) [10:10] tester: this might help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/975094/how-to-disable-wayland-in-17-10-in-gdm3-login-screen [10:13] thanks [10:14] What does this dmesg mean? http://termbin.com/qpdd [10:15] TJ-: If something is deprecated from a newer php version (say 7.2), will Ubuntu devs deprecate it from 7.0 ? [10:16] zetheroo: IMHO, php have nothing to linux. It is just a program you can run on linux. [10:17] zetheroo: I don't think so. [10:17] vlt: Ok. I mean I would assume that Ubuntu devs pay attention to the PHP security reports - if those reports are saying that X is a security vulnerability then they deal with it. [10:18] something like mycrypt is an example of something deprecated in 7.1 [10:19] When exactly does RC.Local get executed? [10:19] at which part of startup? [10:19] zetheroo: I doubt functionality will be removed from the existing version; cannot imagine in what circumstances (barring a critical security issue) [10:20] TJ-: makes sense [10:20] cart_man: usually just before xdm [10:20] xdm being the GUI right? [10:20] cart_man: rc.local is very legacy, but it is supposed to be last 'service' to be executed [10:21] TJ- Yea I have noticed but so far its been pretty consistent. [10:21] zetheroo: you should post this question the ubuntu-devel mailing list; it is a very good topic for discussions and recording views permanently [10:22] I just might :) [10:22] cart_man: i'm not sure how systemd handles it with jobs being executed in parallel [10:22] zetheroo: there may already be something there; worth a focused search [10:25] zetheroo: this may be one of the discussions I remember: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2014-September/015009.html [10:28] Дратути [10:30] Hi folks [10:36] lubuntu installer still doesn't have lvm2 after 3 years? what. the. fuck. [10:40] elevated, no need for that kind of language. Take it up with the devs, not here. [10:41] it wasn't intended as an insult, just as a totally unexpected thing after 3 years, just saying [10:42] I've been thinking of creating a totally new installer; the reliance on the debian-installer/ubiquity spaghetti code is holding back a lot of great things [10:44] How can I append to the default $PATH (or just the $PATH of a specific user) in one command, as part of a headless script [10:44] rory: system-wide, /etc/profile, or $HOME/.profile [10:45] yeah I understand where the file is but I can't just append to the end of the file [10:45] It requires a human to open the file in an editor and inset the new directory in the right place [10:45] I was asking if there's any tool to achieve this [10:46] rory: generally I'd do " cat 'PATH="${PATH}:/my/path" ' >> $HOME/.profile " [10:46] bah!!!! ignore that [10:47] rory: generally I'd do " echo 'PATH="${PATH}:/my/path" ' >> $HOME/.profile " === Sigyn` is now known as Sigyn [10:47] what if .profile already exists though and it has a custom $PATH already set [10:47] I need to append to that path === Sigyn is now known as Sigyn` [10:47] oh actually that would still work, it would just look ugly [10:47] rory: That's what that does ^^ [10:47] I'm going to do it === Aztec03 is now known as SmokinGrunts === Sigyn` is now known as Sigyn [10:47] ideally I would not set $PATH multiple times in .profile though [10:47] rory: including the existing $PATH in the new one is the standard way of doing it [10:48] no I mean let's say the file ~/.profile already contains this content [10:48] $PATH="${PATH}:/foo" [10:48] and I want to add /bar [10:48] rory: I get what you mean; but it helps maintainability to see each change separately rather than altering the default assignment [10:48] OK yeah also life is too short === SmokinGrunts is now known as Aztec03 [10:49] can I do this in /etc/environment as well, does that file work the same as .profile (just a bash script) [10:49] if it goes wrong it is easy for the user to firstly find, and secondly, remove, the offending change [10:49] rory: /etc/environment is probably the better place for it - if you want system services to see the modified PATH [10:52] h+ === ESO4B-18 is now known as chica28 [10:52] hi [10:52] hola [10:52] gi [10:53] hola [10:53] :D [10:53] :DDDDDDDDdd [10:55] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/387418/add-sent-mail-to-evolution-threads Then set "Include threads: all related" in the search folder configuration. where is this setting in evolution mail? [10:59] ‎ BTW, Happy Pi Day to all ! [11:05] BluesKaj: Happy Pi day back at ya! [11:07] Amm0n, that 4.14 kernel turned out to be horrible. No touchpad module, no network module ... :( [11:07] OK I have added a new directory in /etc/environment to PATH, but when I "echo $PATH" I don't see it [11:08] actually I see a directory /snaps which isn't even mentioned in /etc/environment [11:08] so it seems to not be using /etc/environment at all [11:08] I just chose 4.13 kernel to come over to this place again! does anyting else to be done to get kernel 4.14 working in 16.04 ? [11:08] hey [11:08] Hello, I played around with mitmproxy and I think it changed my network settings. Cant use PIP, If I write wget http://www.google.com (or any other) I get error: Connecting to 127.0.0.1:8888... failed: Connection refused. Looks like traffic tries to use a proxy (browsing works fine). How can I fix it ? [11:09] so , bye for now. [11:09] hey [11:13] netcrime: Uhhh, how did you setup mitmproxy? Additionally, did you set http_proxy https_proxy variables [11:13] bey [11:13] Hello [11:16] I aslo have issue with Snowball USB Mic, it works perfectly, but for some reason with Discord... When it hooks into the Mic, it get very bad distortion with my Audio.. Initially I figured is Discord issues but it happens if Discord is running or not and occassionally audio would just Distort. I read that perhapps I should set Pulseaudio to 48000hz? [11:16] BugzBunny: nah, I just installed it with Sudo apt and that's it. [11:17] Type env, and check if those variables are not set [11:17] Otherwise, I can't fathom programs getting proxy information from anywhere else [11:20] netcrime: BugzBunny multicast-DNS is another possiblity, use "avahi-browse -at" to check [11:48] hi all, i'm having occasional problems with an rsync mirror - every couple of weeks it dies saying 'max connections reached (75) - try again later'. i'm using gb.archive.ubuntu.com as the source, running the sync around 2:15AM GMT [11:49] i've rewritten my script to retry with an incrementing wait period between and it ran this morning at about 2:40AM [11:49] after failing twice with the same error [11:52] Hi. Don't you know will the 18.04 Ubuntu Kylin be with UKUI desktop or not? [11:52]