 @Pathum Egodawatta, we... agree with you.
 Is there a nexus 5x group or anything?
 (Photo, 1024x1024) https://irc.ubports.com/uGi3mN7e.png 👗 Maudy Jumbo Bunga A … 👒 Matt:Rayon Rotary … 🌻 LD110, PJ 135 … 💰 Seri@37.000,00 …       Kodian lebih murah … 📲 Lihat pinned message di atas … 📌 Koleksi Lain ⤵️ … https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAD-AfLIl4F9iIyaDcg
 Ban ^
 @wayneoutthere @UniversalSuperBox
 @JoshuaAshton, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/404#issuecomment-369993632
 *sigh*
 Good effort tho
 Eight hours on Monday.
 ._.
 Shame I don't have the time to contrib
[01:40] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> @JoshuaAshton, I work 60+ hours a week and I've been working on a port
[01:41] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Only takes a few mins here and there, eventually it adds up to a contribution
 @Tygerpro Tygerpro, This is truth
 @JoshuaAshton, Not... Yet. Although funny timing since I was discussing this idea.... Device specific groups... Seems growing interest in this
[05:01] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> @wayneoutthere, Case in point, only took a minute to think of this, and it contributes to a potential thing
[05:11] <ubptgbot> tryexceptpass was added by: tryexceptpass
 @wayneoutthere, There is a fp2 group already
[05:31] <ubptgbot> MrMeowish was added by: MrMeowish
 anyone else having trouble with Telegram in the latest update?mine seems to stop connecting everyday...every morning it seems :) … I need to clear config data for it to work again
 I'm curious why telegram was chosen in the first place, in stead of something more flexible, like slack of discord
 @Tomas, I disagree with either Slack or Discord being more flexible
 Much bloat, very wow
 @Tomas, Telegram is being used by millions of people and for those who did not net, it is easy to get used to for everyone who has been used to Whatsapp.
 @jonny, Also, Canonical clearly wanted to position Ubuntu Touch for the masses. You need to convince other people already to install Telegram along WhatsApp on their phones, so better take something that has a wide audience already. Any "nerd" tools wont help spreading ubuntu Touch into Millions of users ;)
 They did not want to make an OS for tech savy users only
 @tryexceptpass, Hi neo and @MrMeowish , Welcome, pls check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @milkor73, Thank you, I just installed Ubuntu touch on my old Nexus 7. thought I might as well join the group again.😅
 @tryexceptpass, I'm interested... Did you come across any problems flashing to a Nexus 7?  It's not one of UBPorts' official devices, is it?
 I used this tool: … https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool … Installed peacefully. didn't have any issues. … But after intallation my apt update was failing, so used the below trick to update the sources.list … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/375#issuecomment-353549622
 And everything's working as expected?
 @Mark, I don't know what to expect 😬 … Wi-Fi is working, App store is not showing any apps.  … did an adb shell and tried installing lamp-server and hit out of memory :P
 @Mark, [Edit] I don't know what to expect 😬 … Wi-Fi is working, App store is not showing any apps, camera is working, … did an adb shell and tried installing lamp-server and hit out of memory :P
 :) Thanks. You've given me hope! I'd been looking around for a Nexus 7 to flash, but was put off when I found out it wasn't an official device.
 @milkor73, 😁👍
 @Mark, You're welcome 😅 … I've been using Lineage till now, got bored of it.
 After todays xenial update, openstore now works, sound also works when screen off. Nexus 4.
 Camera still not work.
[09:02] <ubptgbot> Riky was added by: Riky
 Good morning_!
 Is there any way to install ubuntu touch on a bq aquaris m5 phoe?
 sorry...phone
 or a moto e lte version (2nd gen)
 @samitormanen, Is  it that issue https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/514 or an other https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+camera ?
 Yes.
 Feel free to add a comment to confirm...
 Oh I see HendriXXX = Sami
 Yes, its me. 😁
 Nice car
 Thanks!
 @Riky, These are the supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices … There's work in progress on different Moto models, but I don't think there's something on bq m5
 @tryexceptpass, apt update is not recommended. It messes up updating
 @Stereofont, I had no idea.. what's the recommended way of installing packages?
 @Riky, Not the M5. There was a video of UT allegedly running on a Moto E but we know nothing about it
 @tryexceptpass, Use OpenStore for native apps
 spending time sending people with macs and windows pc's to ubuntu 16.04 live usb drives, and seeing other people do the same I had a random idea: … make a ubports live installer ISO. basically a stripped down ubuntu 16.04 that only runs the ubports installer?
 You can have some success with Libertine for Ubuntu apps but quite technical and flaky
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/2j0fLtYX.webp
 that's making me uncomfortable?
 👍
 Better
 lol yes
 ... since it's my idea i guess i now have to figure out how to strip 16.04 and spin an iso😅
 [Edit] that's making me uncomfortable? /edit this post lost its context. nvm
 Not essential to reduce it. That could come later?
 @YougoChats, It has the advantage that these users find themselves trying out Ubuntu to install UT. Not bad for Ubuntu as a whole.
 The tools could be incorporated.  Maybe easier to add than remove?
 or perhaps i'll start with the mini iso and go from there
 Lubuntu
 There is a Lubuntu group here apparently
 something like that. it surely doesn't need all of unity or GNOME
 basically the deb installer on top of x
 Is there still a need for 32 bit support?
 i don't think so. even most pc's that still came with 32bit windows already had x64 cpus
 The option to full install would have to be disabled. Just in case …
 @YougoChats, I think so. Ask a friend or finally accept that it is time to replace the old box …
 USB 3.0 could be a difficulty
 those who still have old x86 boxes rarely are the type to go and try UT i think
 @Stereofont, do we need that?
 A lot of new machines have 3.0
 @YougoChats, I have 32 bit Toshiba
 @YougoChats, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD#Making_a_Customised_LiveCD
 @milkor73, We mean those who only have 32 bit 😊
 Yes, yes. Meeeee
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cvbT9Nl2.webp
 A nice enhancement would be to have a backup tool bundled
 @advocatux, thanks bookmarked it
 👍
 My mashine: http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-u400-11z/
 [Edit] My machine: http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-u400-11z/
[09:58] <ubptgbot> Victor was added by: Victor
 @Victor, Hi Victor, take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 ohh what a pity!
 Thank you anyway! ;)
 🤔
 @milkor73, :) I still champion 32-bit too: we ought to keep machines running for as long as they possibly can. It minimizes e-waste for one thing. Saves money, and reduces clutter too.
 (It also sends a message to devs to stop bloating OSs)
 @YougoChats, Don't "strip down" - it is easier to start with the "server" image and add stuff.
 It works, until now, hope will keep, pretty well. Only the booting time is longer, but good to prepare my cup of coffee. 😉
 @Stereofont, true but does the installer need it? or can't usb3 function with usb2 drivers
 @Stereofont, SOmeone should continue the efforts with "keeper" for that https://github.com/ubports/keeper it does backup restore
 @YougoChats, Yea. They have backwards compatibility supposedly. Worth checking in practice though
 @DanChapman, Backup is fundamental. Somehow we need to push it up the list of priorities
 Backing up from Android is easy but is there any way to import a backup (or parts of it) into UT. vCards universal of course …
 A 'Universal Installer' could then come in device-specific versions?
 'Live Installer for Nexus 5'
 the installer itself is not device specific right now, is it
 [Edit] the installer itself is not device specific right now, is it?
 @YougoChats, No. That would make about 30 installers. But if it was Live we could afford 8 flavours?
 i was thinking in the other direction actually. what if the installer is truely agnostic and greps a fresh list of devices from the server every time, and downloads the required install script along with the images after a device is selected/detected. that way when a new device is added, the installer will know without having to
[10:39] <ubptgbot> update the installer.
 My thinking was to make it as simple as possible for noobs. Really, whatever achieves that
 Even posting pre-loaded USBs I guess…
 with all variables on a server, the live installer usb could sit in someones drawer for a year, and still support the latest devices?
 Though adjusting BIOS is not exactly noob
 @YougoChats, Yes that makes sense. Though what about installer upgrades?
 A ppa?
 hmm that would mean a persistent USB drive?
 getting too complex i guess
 The aim is to simplify, yes
 make the live session fetch the latest snap upon boot.
 @YougoChats, Exactly
 So still a UBports ppa
 yes, but nothnig we don't already have
 Or Github
 Sounding good
 Y'all thinking too hard about it
 @Flohack, Yes. Solid point. Kind of like value of anbox 'not for us... For them'
 @dohbee, Why do u say that? They are trying to improve installer experience which is first contact with Ubuntu touch — perhaps the do or die moment...
 @wayneoutthere, Because of the trifles being discussed. There's a tool to build custom ISOs already. Take stock desktop 16.04 ISO, add the installer, and start playing
 Can improve it later. It's not going to be perfect from the start, no matter what
 So just put ISO on server, download installer, point to ISO
 ?
 No
 Sorry download iso
 Make an isolated with the installer, and start testing it
 Did not know installer can make ISO
 Probably should add some udev rules to installer Deb too
 Thats funky
 Cool
 @wayneoutthere, It can't. There's a tool in Ubuntu to make custom flavor images
 Once you have ISO I wonder what it costs for a branded, pre-loaded USB stick to be shipped workdwide.
 @wayneoutthere, Nono, you make a little image with, say, Openbox and nothing else whose only purpose is to run the installer. Ubuntu has a tool to make custom ISOs
 We don't
 @dohbee, True. Worth thinking about Roadmap though 😎
 @alan_griffiths, The usb part is pretty cheap.  the pre-loading part... that I've never explored.
 ^^has experience in this area
 gophigger
[12:31] <ubptgbot> shamith16 was added by: shamith16
 Huh?
 +
 Anyway, Shamith, check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, :D
 Good bot
 @shamith16, Shamith, can I ask which main language you speak?
 😂
 @Stereofont, English 😆
 @shamith16, Mallu 😑
 (Sticker, 512x128) https://irc.ubports.com/jd0F6Him.webp
 @shamith16, No problem. I just asked because we have quite of lot of different language groups. Welcome to UBports. Is there anything we can help with?
[12:59] <ubptgbot> Mihir465 was added by: Mihir465
 @shamith16, Hi sur
 Hello Mihir. For more about UBports check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @shamith16, hey.... where'd you get this?   I know one person who wouldn't move to UT becasue they didn't have emoticons that looked like this.  HA
 @wayneoutthere, Its a sticker
 Since there are so many different languages used in India, we created an India group … https://t.me/UBports_India
 @Stereofont, Wew
 @Uchihaitachii, Wew?
 Actually wow
 😂
 I am from india
 Cool 😂
 Thats why wew
 Yes. You said. Kerala
 Nope
 Not Kerala
 I am from Maharashtra
 @theshamith16 from ..
 [Edit] @shamith16 from ..
 @Uchihaitachii, I understand. Mallu
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/B0F8hsYE.webp
 @Stereofont, U from ?
 England. But I can use Urban Dictionary 😎
 👍
 Thugpro
 ugh
 hey would be possible to run Wine on top o libertine and desktop app on 16.04 since in the current one (N5) this doesn't work. Thank you.
 i dont think wine is for ARM architecture
 wine is only built for x86
 @Gabriele, it's a bug specific to N5
 well on 16.04 might be more bugs, but 15.04 libertine doesn't work on N5, unfortunately
 There is a wine android port now, but it can only run exe files compiled for arm of course
 @JBBgameich, The same would probably be possible on Ubuntu Touch as well
 you can run unity8 on 16.04 on x86, and use wine inside libertine, and it should mostly work fine there
 run wine with anbox would be possible indeed
 but only exe compiled for arm that was missing :)
 run wine in anbox probably won't get you what you're asking about
 hmm somehow i don't think running an exe on wine in anbox on UT is going to be a happy experience
 @Gabriele, I was talking about compiling wine for Ubuntu Touch armhf, not running the android version in anbox
 @YougoChats, yeah, you need qemu in there too
 lol
 @YougoChats, Like fishing with elastic
 @Stereofont, the funny thing is it works well
 elastic.io
 @dohbee, the cool thing would be to use, let's say, old pc games on the phone with a usb mouse, that was my thinking.
 I meant fishing line 😃
 i was looking into running teamviewer in libertine a good while ago. teamviewer for linux is actually a wine session baked right into teamviewer, and it's x86. it would need QEMU to maybe be fooled into running, but the lowsy odds of that, and the state of desktop mode back then (and still now) made me drop the idea
 UI wise teamviewer for android on anbox would be better maybe
 @Gabriele, Ones that have open source engines to run them on can probably be built to run on ARM, and then you just need some legal way to get the data onto the device
 @YougoChats, security wise, just not running teamviewer would probably be best :)
 *srugs* my pr0n is safe
 gah, why am i getting all this spam from india now
 you used teamviewr?
 @Uchihaitachii, Nu u lier
[15:21] <ubptgbot> <oleg sokolov> is it possible to run ubport on GPD Pocket?
 Not currently
 and it doesn't make sense. Running Unity 8 might make sense. But Ubuntu Touch is much more than Unity 8
 it's an entire OS
 @YougoChats, No more wine
 but even Unity 8 isn't ready enough to be a daily driver
 for such thing
 it's aceptable for the phones
 Teamviewer 13 was rewrited, frontend in qt
 afaik the backend is still an exe wrapped in wine
 @YougoChats, Backend is not native?
 @YougoChats, No Wine now :)
 Windows mouse and keyboard emulation won't work under wine
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/zDE6rnJN.mp4
 i have teamviewer installed in ubuntu, and it works fine. afaik wine and all
 @YougoChats, What version?
 have to check, i'm not home right now
 hmm have downloaded and uncompressed the deb files of both 12 and 13, and indeed can't find wine stuff in 13
 teamviewer is still proprietary and they only provide x86 binaries afaik
 @shamith16, Please Shamith. Be polite to other users
 @Stereofont, He is my friend sur
 All the more reason to be polite to each other
[16:23] <ubptgbot> Saikol was added by: Saikol
 Hello Saikol. If you would like to know more about UBports please check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 https://del.dog/atadobusaf.makefile
 @cyanogenite, Hello, can anyone please help?
 Sarvesh do not spam the group. Thanks. Please behave considerately to other users or be removed
 @Stereofont, I spammed?
 How?
 I just asked for help
 You pasted a link about a non UBports project?
 @Stereofont, U are serious? It was UBports
 While porting
 @Stereofont, what was in the pastebin?
 Random links which have no explanation are generally a problem
 I am sad now
 @Stereofont, it was a pastebin link, and telegram even had a "preview" explaining it was a pastebin
 If you need assistance you are welcome to ask but please do not paste links whose purpose is not explained
 @cyanogenite, it's just that the pastebin you used is not widely known, and such types of pastebins are often used for spam elsewhere
 @Stereofont, Please restore the two comments from @cyanogenite with the link and request for help
 @Stereofont, Sir, I explained I need help, I gave a paste link. Even telegram explained. … What else would I give in pastebin in ubports chat?
 😔😞
 @dohbee, Oo
 @Uchihaitachii, Forget
 Ikr
 From start
 😆
 Sarvesh: … https://del.dog/atadobusaf.makefile
 This
 I read chat every day
 @cyanogenite you should probably ask for help in @halium channel as it looks like you're trying to build halium
 @dohbee, Please see first line
 @cyanogenite, I forgot to rename workingdir😅
 My apologies Sarvesh. If the content is not visible without clicking the link, that is already a problem. Just announce first that you are going to paste a log and explain why
 @cyanogenite, yes, but it's halium failing to build, which ubports-boot requires. there's also a separate ubports porting specific channel, but i don't recall the channel name (and i'm not in it)
 or group rather
 @cyanogenite, well, glad you resolved it then :)
 @Stereofont, No problem sir, not your mistake
 @dohbee, Ohhh, ok
 The UBports porting group is about porting UT, once the Halium build is complete. Building Halium itself is discussed in the Halium group. Good luck!
 Halium build is completed, … I was following this guide :- … https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/
 Not many here are involved with porting. If you waitva little, hopefully someone will arrive who is able to give you some help
 [Edit] Not many here are involved with porting. If you wait a little, hopefully someone will arrive who is able to give you some help
 Sir, thanks a lot. … But I fixed it..... … Sorry to bother you guys.
 @YougoChats, this is an awesome sentence.
 @YougoChats, teamviewer... on UT... now that... that is something.
 @wayneoutthere, something the security and mir will probably prevent :)
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Wolfanger> There is am armhf version of teamviewer (13) available for downlaod, but installing in libertine gives dependency errors with qt version (which is too old in vivid)
 would seem a bit poinltess to run it under xmir, where the only thing it could see would be itself, since it'd be its own x server
 it would be awesome to have a kind of VNC... but secure... kind of 'share my UT' so we can do tech support for our parents ;)
 Well i’d ony use it for controlling other computers with my phone. Not controlling my phone remotely
 @wayneoutthere, a while ago i had a RealVNC tarball running in libertine, and succesfully remote controlled a macbook with it
 but then i had to flash my phone and lost all that
 @YougoChats, also excellent use case
 @YougoChats, yes... this kind of thing....
 nice
 well all your other computers should be running unity8 too
 converge! one of us!
 it's not my mac
 if it was, it wouldn't be a mac
 proof 😎🤓
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/vvzWPRBS.png
 @YougoChats, What.is.that.
 Fwd from YougoChats: Running on vnc viewer for raspberry pi stand alone version
 Fwd from YougoChats: (executable binary)  because the deb wouldn't install
 Fwd from YougoChats: Rpi because ARM
 Linux kicks mac in his ass!!!
 it says "Files" up top becaus i made a script to launch the binary with the right flags and ran that from nautilus
 [Edit] it says "Files" up top because i made a script to launch the binary with the right flags and ran that from nautilus
 Is there any ability, whether with Webapp Creator or otherwise, to create bookmarks specifically within the web page(s) the app pertains to? If not, could this be implemented in future? E.g. Tv Tropes is a massive wiki and also has a forum, so would be very handy for that.
 @TartanSpartan, not sure what you mean exactly. you can create separate webapps for sub-sections of web sites i guess.
 i don't think you can create bookmarks within webapp-container though (ie, that browser feature isn't exposed there)
 Pretty clear I thought. You know that ring you can swipe up with options e.g. reload, forward, back, more stuff for the YouTube one such as Account etc.
 not really
 Have one of those options be Bookmarks. Hit it, pull up a little window just like the one that shows when you go to bookmarks on the regular browser. But these bookmarks only pertain to URLs in the domain of the webapp I'm using. E.g. I navigate (not easy at present) to page 45 of the Canadian Politics thread on TV Tropes, boo
[19:57] <ubptgbot> kmark it, easy shortcut for the future.
 i guess you mean the alternate webapp container that ogra created, which embeds oxide directly and has the circle menu thing
 which i guess is what webapp creator is based on
 Maybe so.
 i guess open an issue for "cannot save bookmarks inside webapps" or something?
 Webapp Creator allows both alternate and original designated as "simple" types to be created.
 Yeah good idea. But before I do that, what I'm asking I guess is, this functionality should be not only feasible but a fairly easy tweak for those who maintain the webapp aspect of Ubuntu Touch, amirite?
 i don't think it's trivial no
 How so?
 because nothing about the browser code is trivial
 it might be easier to add it to the "simple" app that just uses the standard webapp-container, but still probably not trivial
 I see.
 oh my lionel is admin now grats
 There are a few more. It is busier now and there are lots of timezones to cover
 So how far are we away from having snap support embedded into ubports update ?
 hopefully forever
 I say this from my ubuntuvta tablet having just upgraded telegram by hand.
 ubuntuvta tablet?
 @YougoChats, COOL
 Lazy typing.. and wobby tablet yeah.
 still not sure what you mean
 It is an M10 FHD
 Just I thought snaps were going to be rollled out in V3.. bbut don't see it
 @AlexiPistonrod, Telegram updates are available from OpenStore?
 Yes
 almost certainly wouldn't be on anything less than 16.04, and not much point in supporting them there either
 Just would be nice to flesh out what is missing in the store
 "snaps" isn't going to solve that though
 No? Why not?
 Well how about Andbox when is that landing ?
 switching package formats doesn't magically mean all the apps you want will appear
 and it brings in a whole lot more problems
 anbox will land when it's ready to land
 @AlexiPistonrod, Getting 16.04 settled and stable is absolute top priority. Other things will have to wait a while
 Fairy nuff.. And how is 16.04 doing ?
 snapd is missing all kinds of features that would be necessary to replace clicks with, or even use it on a phone.
 16.04 works ok, depending on device
 @AlexiPistonrod, Very well it seems but a spanner in the works can never be ruled out. It is new territory
 Well as I only have one Ubutu device I suspect I am most interested in mine.. ;)
 well on the m10 at least you don't have to worry about phone calls or sms/mms working :)
 there are some issues still with other apps though, particularly things from the store that are compiled c++ things (or which use c++ things)
 @TartanSpartan, There was an app that was basically a collection of bookmarks. Let’s see if it’s in the Open Store
 @YougoChats, he's asking for the browser's bookmarks feature to be exposed to webapps, so that one can create bookmarks directly within the webapp, for that specific site
 True..
 i think libertine is also a bit off at the moment on 16.04 as well
 Ah ok.
 There will be a lot of questions about 16.04 progress at the next Q&A session no doubt
 there's a lot of questions about it every day, it seems
 The Niemelungen are toiling in the mines as we speak
 @YougoChats, It was this one, if anyone cares. It’s gone now anyways https://uappexplorer.com/app/mywebsites.mattirn
 open-store.io is the present
 Yup
[21:18] <opendata> Any videos of ubports running on the back aquaris
 @opendata, back?
 BQ?
 BBQ?
 😃
 lots of videos of ubuntu running on aquaris are out there, sure
 or well, on some models of aquaris, which are supported
 but not on those other models which are not
[21:20] <opendata> Bq
 Ronnie did one but that was three years ago or so
[21:20] <opendata> I can find Ubuntu touch
[21:21] <opendata> But that's not 16.08/unity8
 Ah
 it's unity8
 but not 16.04 perhaps
[21:22] <opendata> I mean the tablet
 Probably not many of any device running 16.04 just yet
 [Edit] Probably not many videos of any device running 16.04 just yet
 You wanted to see how fluid it is?
 well i mean, it's not going to look especially different on the tablet from the PC, except you're less likely to use staged mode on a PC
[21:24] <opendata> Mainly is it looks
 and the demo on the PC is probably a little better because it has more stuff installed from deb builds that were built with 16.04 and qt 5.9
 In terms of looks it will not be radically different. Not at first, anyway
 @opendata, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH1x51w76Uw
[21:26] <opendata> Thanks
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvVc0C8uxcU
[21:28] <opendata> Looks like it's more worth it to port to z2 phone then
[21:28] <opendata> No offense but I can recreate the tablet UI with KDE pretty easily
 opendata, with mobile or desktop one?
 @opendata, depends on what you mean by "recreate" and "tablet UI" exactly
 OpenStore works, since that video was made. Great video btw
[21:39] <opendata> The video that dohbee linkrd
 Yes that video
 i don't think that video used the "tablet UI"
[21:41] <opendata> Oh
 yeah it doesn't do staged mode
 and the app drawer and indicators are certainly not trivial to do
 you can get something close, but it's not the same
[21:43] <opendata> Kids has an appdrawer basically already
[21:43] <opendata> Kda
 kde has a menu sort of thing that can be customized, but again, it's not the same
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[21:46] <opendata> Yeah
 yeah, that's more like the GNOME one
 Is OpensStore currently down? I can't install any apps
 I press install. Nothing happens. 15.04. FP2
 @Stereofont, Here the same. 15.04 N5
 It indexes normally
 i press InstallButton, then progress bar works and next the InstallButton is still "install" and green
 @Waldbursche, Same. Probably down for maintenance
 I hope so. 😇
 I pinged the group
 👍🏻
[22:04] <brrm> hi, I just installed ubuntu touch on a fp2 using the installer. installation seemed to be successful, however the phone does not boot. it is stuck in a endless reboot loop
 @brrm, We had a couple of OPO like that before but not a FP2 that I can remember
[22:06] <brrm> I can boot into ubports recovery, but not the system
 I suggest the Welcome &Install Room, in Telegram
 Try to boot the system from bootloader
[22:07] <brrm> "Reboot system now"?
 On N5 it works so
 Sounds like you had partial success. Recovery installed but no system
[22:07] <brrm> "Reboot system now" does not work
 What OS on your computer?
 Your install was complete? @ubports_bot
[22:08] <brrm> I had /data encrypted
[22:08] <brrm> could this be an issue?
 Yes
[22:08] <brrm> the install ended showing Ubports Recovery
 That caused endless loop on a OPO
[22:09] <brrm> hm, there was no warning about encrypted partitions
 @brrm, Install should end with boot the UT
 Repeat without encrypted
[22:09] <brrm> repeat?
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/glmHhyDU.png
 The tool does very few error messages. There isn't much diagnostic
 @TartanSpartan, that looks iike android
[22:11] <brrm> how can I remove the encryption?
 I only heard of the encrypted thing once
 does wipe doesnt eliminate encrypted /home?
 Samuel fixed it. Not sure how he did it
 [Edit] wipe doesnt eliminate encrypted /home?
 That left hand Libertine top hat app. It doesn't function but I can't uninstall it so I want to make it invisible. I can't find it's desktop file though. Where is it? Seemingly not in .local/share/applications/
 @TartanSpartan, You should activate your wallpaper 😅
 Sorry. Stephen, not Samuel … @trainailleur
[22:13] <brrm> the suggestion is to wipe and then retry with the installer? and the installer will recognize the phone even if only uports recovery is active?
 UBports recovery alone is enough for the installer, yes
 @TartanSpartan, Probably a deb install then?
 I thought .debs aren't related to mobile apps, which are installed via .click files?
[22:25] <brrm> ok, I just reinstalled twrp and its restoring my backup. I will retry ubuntu touch another day
[22:26] <brrm> one question: does ubuntu touch support encryption of the data partition?
 @TartanSpartan, How did you install it?
 @brrm, Not yet, we're working on finding a way to actually do it securely
[22:27] <brrm> so there is no way to securely store a private ssh key on the device?
[22:28] <brrm> another question: I read gps is not "fully" supported. what does that mean?
[22:28] <brrm> on fp2 I mean
 I thought via the standard shell->create LIbertine chroot -> build container blah blah blah. But @DanChapman and whoever else upgraded the framework and one of the things that did was create the Libertine Manager (the right hand top hat) which supplanted the older one but didn't remove it at least not for my M10.
 *external shell, if that helps to clarify.
 @brrm, You can store it inside an ecryptfs maybe, but due to the way phones work, properly secure encryption is more of a challenge
 GPS has to be kick-started with WiFi data but after that works normally
 @TartanSpartan, I have neither of those in my vm
 OpenStore is back
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/e0BEj9Bf.webp
 Is anyone else having serious issues with video playback on the N5? I get a weird green and purple distortion when playing any video
 Everyone, yes
 @AmolithSeregion, Use "UTmedia" for playback
 @Waldbursche, That's what I've been doing
 @dohbee, Why?
 Driver problem?
 Yes, color space issues
 Let's fix it
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/J05sw9j2.mp4
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/7#issuecomment-352201205