[00:13] @Pathum Egodawatta, we... agree with you. [00:45] Is there a nexus 5x group or anything? [00:46] (Photo, 1024x1024) https://irc.ubports.com/uGi3mN7e.png 👗 Maudy Jumbo Bunga A … 👒 Matt:Rayon Rotary … 🌻 LD110, PJ 135 … 💰 Seri@37.000,00 … Kodian lebih murah … 📲 Lihat pinned message di atas … 📌 Koleksi Lain ⤵️ … https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAD-AfLIl4F9iIyaDcg [00:46] Ban ^ [00:51] @wayneoutthere @UniversalSuperBox [00:53] @JoshuaAshton, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/404#issuecomment-369993632 [01:02] *sigh* [01:02] Good effort tho [01:02] Eight hours on Monday. [01:02] ._. [01:03] Shame I don't have the time to contrib [01:40] @JoshuaAshton, I work 60+ hours a week and I've been working on a port [01:41] Only takes a few mins here and there, eventually it adds up to a contribution === allizom1 is now known as allizom [04:24] @Tygerpro Tygerpro, This is truth [04:26] @JoshuaAshton, Not... Yet. Although funny timing since I was discussing this idea.... Device specific groups... Seems growing interest in this [05:01] @wayneoutthere, Case in point, only took a minute to think of this, and it contributes to a potential thing [05:11] tryexceptpass was added by: tryexceptpass [05:19] @wayneoutthere, There is a fp2 group already [05:31] MrMeowish was added by: MrMeowish [05:35] anyone else having trouble with Telegram in the latest update?mine seems to stop connecting everyday...every morning it seems :) … I need to clear config data for it to work again === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [07:26] I'm curious why telegram was chosen in the first place, in stead of something more flexible, like slack of discord [07:27] @Tomas, I disagree with either Slack or Discord being more flexible [07:27] Much bloat, very wow [07:46] @Tomas, Telegram is being used by millions of people and for those who did not net, it is easy to get used to for everyone who has been used to Whatsapp. [07:52] @jonny, Also, Canonical clearly wanted to position Ubuntu Touch for the masses. You need to convince other people already to install Telegram along WhatsApp on their phones, so better take something that has a wide audience already. Any "nerd" tools wont help spreading ubuntu Touch into Millions of users ;) [07:53] They did not want to make an OS for tech savy users only === ecloud_wfh is now known as ecloud [08:34] @tryexceptpass, Hi neo and @MrMeowish , Welcome, pls check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started [08:36] @milkor73, Thank you, I just installed Ubuntu touch on my old Nexus 7. thought I might as well join the group again.😅 [08:38] @tryexceptpass, I'm interested... Did you come across any problems flashing to a Nexus 7? It's not one of UBPorts' official devices, is it? [08:44] I used this tool: … https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool … Installed peacefully. didn't have any issues. … But after intallation my apt update was failing, so used the below trick to update the sources.list … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/375#issuecomment-353549622 [08:45] And everything's working as expected? [08:50] @Mark, I don't know what to expect 😬 … Wi-Fi is working, App store is not showing any apps. … did an adb shell and tried installing lamp-server and hit out of memory :P [08:50] @Mark, [Edit] I don't know what to expect 😬 … Wi-Fi is working, App store is not showing any apps, camera is working, … did an adb shell and tried installing lamp-server and hit out of memory :P [08:53] :) Thanks. You've given me hope! I'd been looking around for a Nexus 7 to flash, but was put off when I found out it wasn't an official device. [08:57] @milkor73, 😁👍 [08:58] @Mark, You're welcome 😅 … I've been using Lineage till now, got bored of it. [08:58] After todays xenial update, openstore now works, sound also works when screen off. Nexus 4. [08:59] Camera still not work. [09:02] Riky was added by: Riky [09:03] Good morning_! [09:03] Is there any way to install ubuntu touch on a bq aquaris m5 phoe? [09:03] sorry...phone [09:04] or a moto e lte version (2nd gen) [09:09] @samitormanen, Is it that issue https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/514 or an other https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+camera ? [09:10] Yes. [09:10] Feel free to add a comment to confirm... [09:11] Oh I see HendriXXX = Sami [09:12] Yes, its me. 😁 [09:12] Nice car [09:12] Thanks! [09:28] @Riky, These are the supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices … There's work in progress on different Moto models, but I don't think there's something on bq m5 [09:33] @tryexceptpass, apt update is not recommended. It messes up updating [09:34] @Stereofont, I had no idea.. what's the recommended way of installing packages? [09:37] @Riky, Not the M5. There was a video of UT allegedly running on a Moto E but we know nothing about it [09:37] @tryexceptpass, Use OpenStore for native apps [09:38] spending time sending people with macs and windows pc's to ubuntu 16.04 live usb drives, and seeing other people do the same I had a random idea: … make a ubports live installer ISO. basically a stripped down ubuntu 16.04 that only runs the ubports installer? [09:39] You can have some success with Libertine for Ubuntu apps but quite technical and flaky [09:39] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/2j0fLtYX.webp [09:40] that's making me uncomfortable? [09:40] 👍 [09:40] Better [09:41] lol yes [09:43] ... since it's my idea i guess i now have to figure out how to strip 16.04 and spin an iso😅 [09:44] [Edit] that's making me uncomfortable? /edit this post lost its context. nvm [09:44] Not essential to reduce it. That could come later? [09:45] @YougoChats, It has the advantage that these users find themselves trying out Ubuntu to install UT. Not bad for Ubuntu as a whole. [09:45] The tools could be incorporated. Maybe easier to add than remove? [09:45] or perhaps i'll start with the mini iso and go from there [09:45] Lubuntu [09:46] There is a Lubuntu group here apparently [09:46] something like that. it surely doesn't need all of unity or GNOME [09:47] basically the deb installer on top of x [09:47] Is there still a need for 32 bit support? [09:48] i don't think so. even most pc's that still came with 32bit windows already had x64 cpus [09:49] The option to full install would have to be disabled. Just in case … [09:50] @YougoChats, I think so. Ask a friend or finally accept that it is time to replace the old box … [09:51] USB 3.0 could be a difficulty [09:51] those who still have old x86 boxes rarely are the type to go and try UT i think [09:52] @Stereofont, do we need that? [09:52] A lot of new machines have 3.0 [09:52] @YougoChats, I have 32 bit Toshiba [09:52] @YougoChats, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD#Making_a_Customised_LiveCD [09:53] @milkor73, We mean those who only have 32 bit 😊 [09:54] Yes, yes. Meeeee [09:54] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cvbT9Nl2.webp [09:54] A nice enhancement would be to have a backup tool bundled [09:54] @advocatux, thanks bookmarked it [09:55] 👍 [09:57] My mashine: http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-u400-11z/ [09:58] [Edit] My machine: http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-u400-11z/ [09:58] Victor was added by: Victor [10:00] @Victor, Hi Victor, take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started [10:00] ohh what a pity! [10:00] Thank you anyway! ;) [10:01] 🤔 [10:01] @milkor73, :) I still champion 32-bit too: we ought to keep machines running for as long as they possibly can. It minimizes e-waste for one thing. Saves money, and reduces clutter too. [10:03] (It also sends a message to devs to stop bloating OSs) [10:12] @YougoChats, Don't "strip down" - it is easier to start with the "server" image and add stuff. [10:12] It works, until now, hope will keep, pretty well. Only the booting time is longer, but good to prepare my cup of coffee. 😉 [10:14] @Stereofont, true but does the installer need it? or can't usb3 function with usb2 drivers [10:17] @Stereofont, SOmeone should continue the efforts with "keeper" for that https://github.com/ubports/keeper it does backup restore [10:25] @YougoChats, Yea. They have backwards compatibility supposedly. Worth checking in practice though [10:27] @DanChapman, Backup is fundamental. Somehow we need to push it up the list of priorities [10:29] Backing up from Android is easy but is there any way to import a backup (or parts of it) into UT. vCards universal of course … [10:31] A 'Universal Installer' could then come in device-specific versions? [10:32] 'Live Installer for Nexus 5' [10:33] the installer itself is not device specific right now, is it [10:33] [Edit] the installer itself is not device specific right now, is it? [10:35] @YougoChats, No. That would make about 30 installers. But if it was Live we could afford 8 flavours? [10:39] i was thinking in the other direction actually. what if the installer is truely agnostic and greps a fresh list of devices from the server every time, and downloads the required install script along with the images after a device is selected/detected. that way when a new device is added, the installer will know without having to [10:39] update the installer. [10:40] My thinking was to make it as simple as possible for noobs. Really, whatever achieves that [10:41] Even posting pre-loaded USBs I guess… [10:42] with all variables on a server, the live installer usb could sit in someones drawer for a year, and still support the latest devices? [10:42] Though adjusting BIOS is not exactly noob [10:43] @YougoChats, Yes that makes sense. Though what about installer upgrades? [10:44] A ppa? [10:44] hmm that would mean a persistent USB drive? [10:44] getting too complex i guess [10:45] The aim is to simplify, yes [10:46] make the live session fetch the latest snap upon boot. [10:46] @YougoChats, Exactly [10:46] So still a UBports ppa [10:47] yes, but nothnig we don't already have [10:47] Or Github [10:47] Sounding good [11:25] Y'all thinking too hard about it === Xeha_ is now known as Xeha [11:29] @Flohack, Yes. Solid point. Kind of like value of anbox 'not for us... For them' [11:34] @dohbee, Why do u say that? They are trying to improve installer experience which is first contact with Ubuntu touch — perhaps the do or die moment... [11:42] @wayneoutthere, Because of the trifles being discussed. There's a tool to build custom ISOs already. Take stock desktop 16.04 ISO, add the installer, and start playing [11:44] Can improve it later. It's not going to be perfect from the start, no matter what [11:45] So just put ISO on server, download installer, point to ISO [11:45] ? [11:45] No [11:45] Sorry download iso [11:46] Make an isolated with the installer, and start testing it [11:47] Did not know installer can make ISO [11:47] Probably should add some udev rules to installer Deb too [11:47] Thats funky [11:47] Cool [11:48] @wayneoutthere, It can't. There's a tool in Ubuntu to make custom flavor images [11:54] Once you have ISO I wonder what it costs for a branded, pre-loaded USB stick to be shipped workdwide. [12:03] @wayneoutthere, Nono, you make a little image with, say, Openbox and nothing else whose only purpose is to run the installer. Ubuntu has a tool to make custom ISOs [12:03] We don't [12:22] @dohbee, True. Worth thinking about Roadmap though 😎 [12:23] @alan_griffiths, The usb part is pretty cheap. the pre-loading part... that I've never explored. [12:24] ^^has experience in this area [12:25] gophigger [12:31] shamith16 was added by: shamith16 [12:35] Huh? [12:35] + [12:36] Anyway, Shamith, check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [12:38] @Stereofont, :D [12:39] Good bot [12:39] @shamith16, Shamith, can I ask which main language you speak? [12:40] 😂 [12:41] @Stereofont, English 😆 [12:41] @shamith16, Mallu 😑 [12:41] (Sticker, 512x128) https://irc.ubports.com/jd0F6Him.webp [12:50] @shamith16, No problem. I just asked because we have quite of lot of different language groups. Welcome to UBports. Is there anything we can help with? [12:59] Mihir465 was added by: Mihir465 [12:59] @shamith16, Hi sur [13:07] Hello Mihir. For more about UBports check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [13:09] @shamith16, hey.... where'd you get this? I know one person who wouldn't move to UT becasue they didn't have emoticons that looked like this. HA [13:11] @wayneoutthere, Its a sticker [13:17] Since there are so many different languages used in India, we created an India group … https://t.me/UBports_India [13:23] @Stereofont, Wew [13:25] @Uchihaitachii, Wew? [13:25] Actually wow [13:25] 😂 [13:25] I am from india [13:25] Cool 😂 [13:25] Thats why wew [13:25] Yes. You said. Kerala [13:27] Nope [13:27] Not Kerala [13:27] I am from Maharashtra [13:27] @theshamith16 from .. [13:27] [Edit] @shamith16 from .. [13:27] @Uchihaitachii, I understand. Mallu [13:28] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/B0F8hsYE.webp [13:28] @Stereofont, U from ? [13:28] England. But I can use Urban Dictionary 😎 [13:28] 👍 [13:29] Thugpro [13:29] ugh [14:42] hey would be possible to run Wine on top o libertine and desktop app on 16.04 since in the current one (N5) this doesn't work. Thank you. [14:43] i dont think wine is for ARM architecture [14:44] wine is only built for x86 [14:44] @Gabriele, it's a bug specific to N5 [14:45] well on 16.04 might be more bugs, but 15.04 libertine doesn't work on N5, unfortunately [14:45] There is a wine android port now, but it can only run exe files compiled for arm of course [14:45] @JBBgameich, The same would probably be possible on Ubuntu Touch as well [14:46] you can run unity8 on 16.04 on x86, and use wine inside libertine, and it should mostly work fine there [14:46] run wine with anbox would be possible indeed [14:46] but only exe compiled for arm that was missing :) [14:46] run wine in anbox probably won't get you what you're asking about [14:46] hmm somehow i don't think running an exe on wine in anbox on UT is going to be a happy experience [14:47] @Gabriele, I was talking about compiling wine for Ubuntu Touch armhf, not running the android version in anbox [14:47] @YougoChats, yeah, you need qemu in there too [14:47] lol [14:50] @YougoChats, Like fishing with elastic [14:51] @Stereofont, the funny thing is it works well [14:51]