[00:00] I just can't seem to transcode them to something more practical [00:00] vlc can stream out to another format I think [00:00] indeed [00:00] can probably stream to pcm [00:01] ask in #vlc [00:01] i doubt vlc can fail on any respect [00:01] well, it does fail on being a media player [00:01] :P [00:02] yeah, no more using it [00:03] what do you use instead of vlc? I tried mpv, but didn't care for the chrome in it. [00:04] hi is there any way to run gpg inside lxd? [00:04] for player i use smplayer [00:05] hi is there any way to run gpg inside lxd? === kenden is now known as Guest32676 [00:06] gpor, you have to have a tad bit of patience, don't repeat your question every minute, give time for an answer. [00:06] there are no good media players for linux afaik [00:07] Sorry I thought i didn't send === eskimo is now known as FreeShkreli [00:09] np, we all make mistakes :-) [00:18] Is there a way to execute update-alternatives without interacting with prompts? [00:19] ycyclist: update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim.basic [00:22] Thanks. I found that too boxingrock. === mooncakehexchat is now known as Guest60499 [00:49] Helo room i am trying to SCP files onto a server and it is giving me a premission denied error [00:53] hi all does ubuntu 17.10 have file size limitations for fat 32 partitions (like windows does) [00:53] i think that's more dependent on the FAT32 filesystem itself [00:54] i have some 25GB files id like to store on fat 32 partition under ubuntu not likely possible hey [00:55] or any os as far as that is concerned [00:56] can windows read any linux partitions at this point in time (i know i can do it on ntfs but dont want to if avoidable) [00:58] buenas tengo una pregunta [00:58] hola [00:58] hola [01:00] each filesystem has limitations, this is why you're using ext4 instead of ext1 and etc Guest60499 [01:00] however, most OS's support ntfs via FUSE. so go with that [01:03] hey so for some reason my external drive is owned by user sshd. and i cant change its ownship [01:03] Many thanks [01:05] brenster21, is the drive a seagate? [01:05] compdoc wd easystore [01:05] there is an extension to fat called exfat, dont know if linux supports it [01:05] did you install ssh? [01:05] yes [01:07] how are you mounting the drive? [01:07] it does, via fuse, i still think you're better off using ntfs. since support is native on linux the bsd's however rely on fuse [01:08] it is it is ntfs [01:10] compdoc i am sorry for disturbing i somehow got it working. ownership is missed up I can access everything. [01:10] that was meant for Guest60499 brenster21, although it was more thinking out loud than anything else [01:11] kumool oh sorry. [01:11] probably fstab is messed up [01:11] on your case [01:11] cant help more than that [01:11] is fuse already present on 17.10 cant find in software center (i also need it now) [01:12] some external automounted by daemon [01:12] which daemon, depend on what you install === Guest95993 is now known as pengwens [01:16] in my pc, gnome-disks, automount it to /media [01:19] Guest60499, ntfs support is already supported via ntfs-3g which should already be installed [01:19] and i was wrong about the native aspect [01:23] Hi everyone, I want to play older video game consoles via a capture card on my computer. Does anyone have any experiences with a particularly good card for this purpose? I'm going to be using composite inputs. [01:24] hi all [01:25] jwash_, you may find it easier to get an adapter (and cheaper) for your TV than to try and play via capture cards [01:25] jwash_, otherwise this reddit thread has some suggestions https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/4l9r06/capture_card_for_obs_studio_on_linux/ [01:26] my projector is hanging way up on the ceiling [01:26] connected to pc via hdmi [01:26] i used to use an adaptec gamebridge, 15 years ago.. [01:26] Add a signal switch near the computer that allows you to switch between the computer and your console? [01:27] one hdmi cable running to the projector, no composite or s-video === uplink is now known as masterfoo === masterfoo is now known as masterfoo-pt [01:28] Hey All, I have an ubuntu server with xubuntu desktop environment. I have a desktop autostart file that is not autostarting the java application its intended to. It has previously worked but does not seem to be functioning anymore and I have no idea why. Is there any logging for autostart ? I don't see anything in the syslog at all. If I run the .desktop file manually it runs no problem [01:28] and if i search the GUI auto-start programs list it shows in the list [01:28] hi all [01:30] protocol error: expected control record [01:30] scp: /media/raid/CHP/smb.conf: Permission denied [01:31] jwash_, I'm suggesting you get an HDMI switch and install that at the end of the run by the computer... allowing you multiple inputs for the HDMI cable going to your projector. Then you can pick up an adapter for composit to HDMI put that in one of the inputs, the computer in the other [01:32] jwash_, otherwise take a look at the link I provided. I don't think the results will be what you want because the video capture on the computer will introduce significant lag === Guest87250 is now known as yudistira [01:50] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116034 http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_linux.html [01:50] that's more along the line of what I was looking for === miguel is now known as Guest28915 [02:00] hello? === avis is now known as Guest33484 [02:01] ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA [02:02] you're bad [02:02] you clicked :-P [02:03] the simple life must have been such a dissapointment [02:04] The reason I didn't link to products is because i've found it very hit and miss for linux support with various tuners and video inputs [02:04] Even the ones claiming to have linux support, often have some limitation compared to their implementation with Windows [02:04] the 955c has a ppa with drivers [02:05] do be careful with 3rd party PPAs, they can install newer packages to things that aren't supported in the main Ubuntu releases === Guest33484 is now known as avis- [02:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1721909 [02:12] Launchpad bug 1721909 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu) "Goodix GF3208 (fingerprint reader) not being recognised by kernel/system" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:12] is there anything i can do about it? [02:13] its been used new generation dell laptops which is quite popular. i think it's importance level should be higher than medium [02:14] thiras, the fingerprinter is not a critical component to the operation of the computer. which is part of the reason why it's rated medium === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:15] pragmaticenigma, I've check other bug reported on the package. there is no high or critical [02:15] bugs* [02:15] thiras, there are bugs that are not listed for various reasons (including those that could compromise the security of a system) [02:17] A critical bug would be "display not working" or "backdoor for application allowing exfiltration of user data (see Specter and Meltdown) [02:17] beside status 128 i don't see any critical. but of course there could be some hidden ones [02:17] i was just talking with those i can see [02:18] A non-functioning finger print reader is not currently affecting the ability to use the computer. Thus it won't receive a the same kind of attention that would come from something that does prevent the computer from being usuable [02:18] pragmaticenigma, do you have any idea why the kernel doesn't recognize even vendor info? [02:19] thiras, it could be the Vendor didn't follow specifications for allowing an operating system to inspect the device [02:20] quite weird. never seen before [02:20] thiras, it's on the manufacturer to follow the standards set forth. in this case, it's possible the manufacture had no intention of supporting Linux and therefore made it so it's driver installer in Windows would be able to find and activate it [02:20] but any other operating system wouldn't see it and just ignore it [02:21] so in that case pragmaticenigma the only was is reverse engineering right? [02:21] way* [02:26] very possible thiras [02:27] the funny thing it has android driver [02:27] which has the same kernel [02:27] almost the same kernel [02:31] android is quite a bit different though. android lives on top of a linux envrionment. Also, android, like windows, is created by a single entity. Linux based distributions are created by millions of different groups, there is no uniformity between distro (which is on purpose) that makes it harder to support. Ideally a kernel driver will get made, it's just when someone rises to take on the challenge [02:31] is anyone else getting a huge ff icon after updating to v59? on u-mate [02:32] yeah thats why i said almost [02:33] in manner of hardware drivers it should be that far. but rest is crazy different [02:33] "resize icon" in the context menu doesn't appear to work... [02:33] doge-doge, have you tried logging out and back in or rebooting the computer? [02:33] that could be it [02:34] never done that for a ff update but worth a try [02:35] It's rare, but happens... I have strange issues now and then with apps and their display. Usually a quick log off and log in remedies the problem [02:35] how odd...changing the icon theme to high-contrast themes and the moka theme appear to resize it correctly... [02:37] there's usualyl a clean up task after package installation that gets called... i'm trying to remember what it's called, but it usually triggers an update to the icon set being used. Changing the theme/appearance probably also triggers it [02:38] i'm gonna dig into the firefox.desktop file to see which icon it's pointing to... [02:39] doge-doge, it usually points only to one... the task I'm thinking of compiles a cache of the icons to be uniform [02:39] the window manager uses that cache to display the icons [02:39] lol ok nevermind: "Icon=firefox" [02:39] there might have been an .svg update to the icon itself [02:40] possible? hard to know, you can always check out the release notes [02:40] I know that my Ubuntu instance has an extremely large icon for Eclipse, but that's mostly because I installed Eclipse manually instead of through the package manager [02:41] omg the re-added amazon to a preferred search engine again [02:41] amazon is a retailer...not a search engine? [02:43] looks like indeed gfx upgrades: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/ brb [02:44] Amazon has a search engine in it to search for products sold on Amazon... so, yeah, it qualifies as a search engine in that aspect. [02:45] Is there a program for ubuntu that will display all my system's specifications? Ram, CPU, Display, attached perhipials, USB buses, etc.? [02:46] lol, no go on a reboot [02:47] deleted the shortcut and re-added from the start menu to the desktop [02:48] I can't remember -- was ctrl+mousescroll-up/down the shortcut to change the size of all desktop icons? [02:48] that's apparently not working [02:48] doge-doge: What DTE are you using? [02:49] ubuntu mate [02:50] doge-doge: If you figure out how to do that in mate, I'd like to know too. lol [02:50] i was pretty sure the mouse wheel + ctrl did it before... === errrasmus is now known as erasmus [02:54] ok yeah that shortcut works in caja view... [02:54] caja view? [02:55] yes that's the file manager in mate [02:55] I see. [02:55] this is hilarious...if I navigate to the desktop folder in caja, I can resize all icons except firefox [02:55] So not for icons on the desktop, but the view in the filemanager [02:56] well see I thought shortcut used to work on the desktop as well... [02:56] The other icons may be vector based, like svg files perhaps. (or vice-versa) Just speculating. [02:56] "list view" and "compact view" appear to be normal...icon view is problematic [02:58] there seems to be one icon size on the new ff. If I change the icon view to maximum 400%, ff becomes the smaller icon of all lol [02:58] and vice-versa [02:59] anyone know where the default icon folder is...something like /usr/share/local or something like that? [03:02] doge-doge, /usr/share/icons/... [03:03] ok thanks... [03:03] also /usr/share/app-install/icons [03:03] and /usr/share/app-install/desktop/ === allizom1 is now known as allizom === FreeShkreli is now known as eskimo [03:10] ok this is interesting...in /usr/share/icons/ there are no references to the ff icon in the scalable folders...except 2 places -- the high contrast theme and moka (I theme I installed previously) [03:19] resizing the icon works on moka theme... [03:20] icon is otherwise static on other themes [03:21] moka's not a bad theme, i'll just switch to it for now [03:24] hello' === ubuntu is now known as Guest72478 [03:30] hi [03:33] I have a USB device, shows up on dmesg, shows up on lsusb, but ls /dev shows nothing [03:33] and [03:35] ls /dev shows no differences from whn the device is plugged in and not plugged in [03:35] which part of the OS creates the rules for /dev? [03:39] I just installed Ubuntu 17.10 [03:39] After loggining in the screen turns black [03:39] no cursor [03:40] kmas: nvidia graphics driver ? [03:41] kmas : Please ask in the forum [03:43] @Bashing-om I have gtx 1060 [03:44] 6gb version [03:44] @Bashing-om is there a way to install the driver or do something? [03:44] I just got it to work [03:44] but cursor works slow [03:45] I think not utilizing GPU [03:45] Windows are moving around with delay. Def not utilizing GPU [03:45] any help? === ubuntu is now known as Guest21960 === Guest76971 is now known as strength [03:48] kmas: K; next then, is this the wayland session ? [03:48] hello! im a newcomer to ubuntu and im excited, however i cant decide between LTS and regular version, also should i completely erase my computer or dual boot? (i guess that last question was more of a preference) [03:49] @Bashing-om no idea [03:49] what ? [03:49] @Bashin-om no idea how it boot up or what it used to finally display something. But I am connected the monitor to the GPU but doesn't seem to utilize it [03:49] 华清？ [03:50] kmas: What shows ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ? [03:51] what makes a device show up as /dev/bus/usb/001/001 as opposed to /dev/ttyusb* [03:51] is it kernel modules? [03:53] hello [03:53] hello [03:53] nihao [03:54] @Bashing-om wayland === kevin is now known as Guest32223 [03:54] kmas: As a thought .. 17.10 defaults to the wauland session, nvidia does not play nice . At the password entry screen is a small gear icon . see if you can change to Xorg rather than wayland as the session to boot . [03:54] hello [03:54] こんにちは [03:54] nihap [03:54] Bashing-om, does xscreensave work on wayland? [03:54] nihao [03:55] *r [03:55] rrrrrr [03:55] where are you from [03:55] Tokyo [03:55] Zzzzzzz [03:55] doge-doge: Not got the experience running wayland (yet) to know . Still on Xorg here . [03:55] Anybody from China? [03:56] yes [03:56] fs__: nihao aint jap [03:56] and tokyo aint chinese [03:56] zhonghuarenmingongheguo [03:56] bbbb [03:56] 00 [03:56] 中华人民共和国 [03:56] 00 [03:56] lilaoshizhenshuai [03:56] lilaoshizhenshuai [03:56] 00 [03:57] @Bashing-om kind of better but still some lag/delay on window movement [03:58] is it possible to install some drivers or should I just switch to windows? [03:58] apt-get system [03:58] 66666 === linux__ is now known as CccC [03:58] all right [03:58] 23 [03:58] 23 [03:58] kmas: Now what shows - in a pastebin - ' sudo lshw -C display ' . See if a driver is loaded . [04:01] @Bashing-om I added the graphics drivers repository and now installing the prp[roetary drivers [04:01] propietary [04:04] Hi, I have a weird problem my Ubuntu 16.04 does updates updating automatically without ask root password. [04:05] @Bashing-om now I get an error "Invalid video mode specification "text"" [04:05] booting in blind mode [04:05] kmas: Just be aware that with the proprietary driver will not be able to boot the wayland session . [04:05] someone_, 16.04 and higher does security updates automatically be default via the unattended-upgrades packages [04:06] @Bashing-om is there a going back from this error... or should I just re-install [04:06] only security, not backports or proposed [04:06] I can't even boot at this point [04:06] kmas: Pastebin the error . Then we have an idea . [04:07] @Bashing-om https://pastebin.com/r6Nj5sVx [04:08] kmbY The way, this irc is not twitter .. do not '@' at the mick. else notice highlighting is defeated . [04:08] doge-doge but I see updates icon for while then the update be installed, now my ubuntu update firefox without asking password [04:09] ff v59 is a security update [04:09] ok , thanks. [04:10] https://usn.ubuntu.com/3596-1/ [04:10] kmas: show in a pastie ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . See what got installed if anything . [04:11] I can't boot up @Bashing-om [04:11] this is what happens when I try [04:11] !nomodeset | kmas [04:11] kmas: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:12] should i pick ubuntu lts or regular? [04:12] descuidado: As you have to ask , then it is LTS .. [04:19] What would be a good freenode channel to ask about Vulkan game support on ubuntu? [04:19] !alis | Saabstory88 [04:19] Saabstory88: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [04:20] Thanks! [04:20] Saabstory88: :) not what you wanted, but what we have . [04:22] No reason to complain. The community has been invaluable in helping me move more of my computing time to linux [04:28] kmas: Still hang'n with us ? [04:29] anyone have any idea about things crashing with this error in ubuntu 14.04.5? crashed with SIGABRT in __libc_message() [04:29] it started yesterday, so far hexchat has been affected as well as the official discord desktop client, google chrome, and even nautilus file manager [04:29] not sure what to do about it [04:30] the crashes r spaced out over hours and seemingly random [04:31] Compu: your system up to date? added external ppa's of any kind? [04:32] yes and yes, i've had this system going with virtually no issues for years, it seems to be related to the libc-bin package as far as i can tell, that package is still only updated from ubuntu's repo and not any ppa's [04:33] Compu: you have errors on apt update? [04:33] no, none at all [04:34] Compu: allright, have you checked syslog on crashes? [04:34] what should i look for there? [04:35] Compu: not sure yet, but i would leave a tail -f /var/log/syslog running and see whats going on when launch your crashing programs [04:36] i found this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P93htySWmf/ [04:36] lets c [04:37] !info linux-image-generic trusty [04:37] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.143.153 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB [04:37] this the kernel you have Compu ? [04:37] no [04:37] sec [04:38] i have 4.4.0-116-generic [04:38] Compu: you might wanna test other kernels as a test perhaps [04:39] i have 4.4.0-21-generic [04:39] how? [04:39] someone elsewhere is suggesting i do a memtest [04:39] Compu: pastebin /var/crash/_usr_bin_nautilus.1000.crash. [04:40] hello? [04:40] hello [04:40] any one here? === root is now known as Guest40834 [04:40] root: yes? [04:42] what is the main topic in this room [04:42] EriC^^: that command doesn't exist? [04:42] Compu: have you seen any IO errors regarding harddisk in your full syslog Compu ? [04:42] Guest40834: ubuntu support [04:43] Compu: type "cat /var/crash/_usr_bin_nautilus.1000.crash | nc termbin.com 9999" [04:43] perfect [04:43] no and my hard disk is perfectly healthy according to SMART data, no read/write errors whatsoever [04:45] EriC^^: looks like it's reading out the file in the terminal, taking a while [04:46] the guy who usually helps me with this stuff thinks it's an error in the libc-bin library somewhere [04:47] Compu: open your crashing porgrams from the terminal [04:47] Compu: see if we can catch usefull errors there [04:48] lotuspsychje: but the crashes aren't predictable, it goes hours upon hours between crashes, like i've only had 2 this entire day with more than 6 hours between them [04:49] Compu: thats not very usefull indeed [04:49] and i have no idea how to predict which one will crash next either, it could be chrome, discord, nautilus, hexchat, or any number of programs that apparently rely on that library [04:49] I tried to run GAN codes in terminal. It works for the first time, however it raises MemoryError for the second time.I have to restart my system to avoid this. What happend? anyone can help me? [04:50] i think dropbox crashed once too but didn't generate a crash report [04:50] !info libc-bin trusty [04:50] libc-bin (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: Binaries. In component main, is required. Version 2.19-0ubuntu6.14 (trusty), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3275 kB [04:50] Compu: i don't think it matters (i agree run from term); I'd just minimize the terminal and use it, should it crash then I bring up the term & look to see if messages were caught (they usually are) [04:50] this the version you got Compu ? [04:50] yes that's the one [04:50] Compu, use it, as in use the app (ignoring the term unless you quit & need to restart the app) [04:51] Compu: and you sure this aint got scrambled with dependecys somehow with your ppa's right? [04:51] guiverc: which program do i run from terminal chrome can't be done cuz it uses multiple processes so it doesn't output anything useful to the terminal, same with discord [04:51] yes, i can check apt-get policy for the package [04:52] lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzSZDCvKzK/ [04:52] Compu: /var/crash should have the error reports there, upload them somewhere [04:53] EriC^^: https://mega.nz/#!918zCAyY!_eIYdH_yoRO8iUaSiRjiRR_w1lcCMDUg9iIoxtj7WWw [04:53] !pastebinit | Compu for future [04:53] Compu for future: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [04:53] ok thanks [04:54] EriC^^: how do i stop that terminal from reading out the file? ctrl+c isn't working [04:54] 12.8MB wow [04:54] i dont think nautilus is even 12mb itself xD [04:54] Compu: try ctrl+d too [04:55] nevermind closing the terminal stopped it [04:55] i guess it was actually done and the terminal buffer was still catching up [04:55] anyways brb i'm gonna run hexchat from the terminal [04:56] back [04:57] Compu: is there anything really obvious in syslog? [04:57] no, just a bunch of sensor checking stuff mostly [04:57] u know, checking the cpu temp sensors and such [04:57] Compu: sudo grep -i "error|segfault|segv" /var/log/syslog returns anything? [04:58] Compu: if i was you, i would remove all ppa's and cleanout system with bleachbit [04:58] EriC^^: returns nothing [04:59] lotuspsychje: but that would remove like all the stuff i use [04:59] Compu: sounds like a system scramble for long use [04:59] i guess i'll just deal with it and buy a new hard drive next month, i been meaning to reinstall when 18.04 comes out anyways [04:59] Compu: well, lets think of it this way, if you would test a 14.04.5 liveusb session i dont think apps would crash [05:00] ok [05:02] Compu: for stable use, we always reccomend using ubuntu vanilla with programs installed from repos [05:03] [Thu 12:56:24 AM] meep. isnt that a segmentation fault following a buffer overflow or misallocated memory error [05:03] is that useful at all? [05:04] Compu: i would test a few hours 14.04.5 live to see & compare [05:05] i think i'll probably just buy a new hard drive next month and install 18.04 and start copying settings and such over [05:05] Compu: but you said your hd had no errors? [05:06] yes but it's easier to do that than to overwrite the current one and risk missing something i should've copied [05:06] hard drives r cheap [05:06] !info aptoncd | Compu [05:06] Compu: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4 (artful), package size 213 kB, installed size 1561 kB [05:06] eh? what's that meant to do [05:07] i mean things like music and settings and my steam library [05:07] i have american truck simulator saves i don't want to lose [05:07] Compu: thats for backing up your existing programs [05:07] won't that just cause the same issue in 18.04 then? [05:08] Compu: when installing new ubuntu versions, you can preserve your /home aswell [05:08] Is there a program or terminal commands for ubuntu that will display all my system's specifications? Ram, CPU, Display, attached perhipials, USB buses, etc.? [05:08] but i have things outside of /home i'm pretty sure [05:08] !info inxi | Euph0ria [05:08] Euph0ria: inxi (source: inxi): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3.37-1 (artful), package size 136 kB, installed size 610 kB [05:08] Euph0ria: lshw perhaps [05:09] hardinfo will do it [05:09] and hardinfo has a gui [05:09] !info hardinfo [05:09] hardinfo (source: hardinfo): Displays system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1+git20170815-1 (artful), package size 311 kB, installed size 797 kB [05:09] Compu: to goto 18.04 you would have to upgrade to 16.04 first [05:10] lotuspsychje: not upgrade, fresh install, i learned the hard way to never upgrade [05:10] go fresh install then reinstall programs and copy their settings over [05:10] Nice. Thank you for the suggestions. Sometimes when trying to troubleshoot problems with others, that info can be very helpful. [05:11] Euph0ria: inxi -F will give you alot of info [05:11] lotuspsychje: sounds very useful [05:12] Compu: sounds like a good idea [05:12] theres also a nice little terminal app i can't remember the name of that gives u things like gpu and cpu model, OS name/version, linux kernel version, desktop shell, etc [05:12] lotuspsychje: i was gonna do that anyways early next year [05:13] now that i know lollypop exists when i upgrade i can switch to it from banshee [05:14] i can also stop using xboxdrv and use the kernel driver, i started using xboxdrv for my ps3 controller and then i got an xbox 360 controller but didn't want to screw with what was currently working [05:16] Compu: thankyou for the hardinfo suggestion as well. [05:16] sure, no problem [05:16] glad to help [05:18] anyone dl ff v59 yet and put a desktop shortcut on it? [05:18] And that terminal app that gives you all that info would be great too. I forget, but there is a command that will tell you the version of linux you're using too. Anyone know what that is off the top of their heads? [05:18] Euph0ria: lsb_release -a [05:18] Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.49GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (13.4 GiB Free) Swap: 7.8 GiB Total (7.6 GiB Free) • Storage: 37.7 GB / 87.6 GB (49.9 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM C [05:18] ontroller • Uptime: 1d 17h 17m 2s [05:19] oops, sorry. [05:19] But hey, that gave a bunch of good info. [05:20] Wow, Hexchat got all that. heh [05:20] And it's just my IRC client. lol [05:21] Sorry, I should have opened a msg to myself and tried that. [05:25] Forgiven [05:26] This old laptop. I forgot, this thing says I have 16GB Ram, should I make my swap 16GB+ a little bit perhaps? [05:26] Currently it's at about 8GB [05:26] Euph0ria: do you want hibernation? [05:26] 32GB Swap [05:26] if you want to hibernate you should have the same amount of swap as you have ram [05:27] Old Laptop with 16GB ram .. phewww! [05:27] if you don't hibernate, ask yourself.... do you ever run out of ram ? [05:27] EriC^^: No, but I do want plenty of memory if tasks should need it. For example, rendering a very large fractal image for print at 24x36. That I have to rely on windows to do, and it would be great do render it in linux! [05:28] Desktop_: I upgraded the ram right after I got it. It's about 5-7 years old. [05:28] a lot of ram for a laptop that old [05:28] Well, I use every bit of it. [05:28] lol [05:29] And more. [05:29] plz stay ontopic guys [05:29] !discuss [05:29] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [05:29] lotuspsychje: Ram amounts suggested for ubuntu. check! [05:30] Specifically ubuntu running XFCE as the DTE. [05:30] Thank you for the suggestions! [05:31] I'll increase it to at least 16Gb+1Gb and see how that fares. [05:31] i'd suggest 8GB of swap [05:31]