[00:03] <TJ-> UnregisteredScum: I generally create the directory $HOME/Downloads/kernels/ and run it there; it'll create sub-dirs for each kernel version it fetches
[00:04] <UnregisteredScum> Do I have to chmod it as executable to get it to run? Keeps giving me a "command not found" error.
[00:04] <bigMouth1ommie> will the current ltr installer work with the hp model 14-am052nr
[00:06] <UnregisteredScum> OK, it's working now. Should I just go the latest (i.e. 4.16-rc5)?
[00:07] <TJ-> UnregisteredScum: yes, just so you have a Yes/No answer as to whether it's fixed
[00:08] <UnregisteredScum> OK. I'll give it a try and report back. Thanks for the help thus far.
[00:10] <guiverc> bigMouthCommie, i guess so, I see questions on the model in askubuntu (not related to install)
[00:13] <bigMouthCommie> can you link the discussion guiverc
[00:14] <guiverc> bigMouthCommie, just search (i used duckduck), two for 17.10 though and not 16.04 LTS  (if you meant the lts)
[00:15] <bigMouthCommie> thanks
[00:16] <rud0lf> how do i change the computer/host name? (the thing after @ in terminal)
[00:17] <rud0lf> it's on vps, so i don't want to break something
[00:23] <TJ-> rud0lf: edit /etc/hostname or use the 'hostname' command (see 'man hostname' )
[00:23] <rud0lf> thanks
[00:23] <Bashing-om> rud0lf: manpage says to use hostnamectl : ' man hostnamectl ' IF you are on systemd .
[00:24] <rud0lf> if it's 16.04 server, will it be systemd ?
[00:24] <rud0lf> sorry newbie on VPS thing
[00:24] <donofrio__> how do I rollback packages (or at least be able to track down what is causing terminal's to "crash" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DYDHHSHTW9/
[00:25] <Bashing-om> rud0lf: Yes, 16.04 is systemd . Be aware I have played about with hostnamectl and not gotten the results I wanted .
[00:25] <donofrio__> that paste was from tail -n25 /var/log/apt/history.log | pastebinit
[00:31] <GoopAway> Is Lubuntu officially supported?
[00:32] <GoopAway> Is there a Lubuntu channel? Can I talk about it here?
[00:32] <guiverc> GoopAway, yep. it's an official flavor of Ubuntu
[00:32] <Bashing-om> GoopAway: Yes, yes, and yes .
[00:33] <guiverc> fyi: there is also #lubuntu
[00:36] <GoopAway> I tested Lubuntu on a really old PC, using the "Try Lubuntu without installing" and it performed very well for web browsing. If I install the OS and select the option "install 3rd party software", should I expect about the same performance as the live boot from a flash drive?
[00:37] <guiverc> you should expect better performance than 'live'
[00:37] <donofrio__> ssd is faster than usb live
[00:37] <donofrio__> GoopAway, if you install that it will only be for that livecd-session
[00:37] <GoopAway> I don't have an SSD. It's a mechanical
[00:38] <donofrio__> what I mean is your in a livecd loopbackfs you can remove and install things but the os needs to be installed somewhere and older hard driver are slower than running everything in ram
[00:38] <kostkon> GoopAway, "install 3rd party software" will not add any additional long running processes that will eat extra cpu/ram
[00:39] <TJ-> GoopAway: if by 'flash drive' you mean a USB 2.0 connected flash-memory storage device, installing to a fixed spinning disk will be much faster to read/write from/to the storage
[00:40] <donofrio__> you want old, I'm chatting here now on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q2f6Zpy5vx/ (ducking for cover)
[00:41] <kostkon> donofrio__, interesting setup. what exactly is it
[00:42] <kostkon> donofrio__, oh yeah mac g5
[00:46] <GoopAway> Yeah, my poor and cheap grandfather has a crappy old computer that is running a copy of Windows 7, which someone didn't give him with a license (or an illegal edition of it), and there's a crap load of pop-ups, and he doesn't do anything but GMail and YouTube, so I'm trying to get him into Lubuntu.
[00:47] <thiras> hello. I've installed snap of skype. got properity nvidia drivers
[00:47] <thiras> i got no error on terminal but it simply doesnt start
[00:47] <thiras> any idea?
[00:48] <thiras> at least how can i get the error?
[00:48] <bazhang> thiras why not try in #snappy
[00:48] <thiras> good idea
[00:55] <Slade> whats the best way to get a list of mac addresses on a machine
[00:55] <TJ-> Slade: of the host's interfaces?
[00:57] <TJ-> Slade: "ip link show | awk '/link\/ether/{print $2}'"   to see the MAC addresses of neighbours/ARP "ip neigh show"
[00:57] <thiras> it really doesn't seem to me universal. :( i cannot get even simple error log wtih that pre mature snap package
[01:03] <Slade> TJ-, yea
[01:04] <Slade> something keeps stealing an ip address on the network
[01:04] <Slade> quite irritating
[01:06] <pragmaticenigma> Slade: Something have a static IP set once upon a time conflicting with the DHCP pool?
[01:07] <Slade> pragmaticenigma, hum, something that used to be dhcp assigned maybe thats now conflicting with a static
[01:08] <TJ-> Static assignments should be outside the pool range
[01:09] <Slade> they are. i had to shrink the pool range
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> Slade, it's something that comes to mind. If you didn't do any recent network reconfig with your DHCP server (modem/router). It's my best guess why you might have an IP conflict.
[01:09] <Slade> and the ip conflict is coming from the same ubuntu machine.. somehow
[01:09] <TJ-> Slade: same Ubuntu machine as what?
[01:10] <TJ-> Slade: you mean there are multiple DHCP requests from the same host for a single IP providing different MAC addresses?
[01:11] <Slade> so some machines can connect to the ubuntu machine and some cant. the ones that can see a mac address ending in 33.. the ones that cant see f7.. both ping ok
[01:11] <TJ-> Slade: something has MAC randomisation enabled?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> Slade: the other possibility is that a device that was DHCP is still requesting and getting the IP address it was assigned that was in the old DHCP pool. Changing the subnet of the network might force all DHCP devices to pull fresh IPs
[01:11] <Slade> no, its the same machine, if i unplug the machine, both pings die
[01:11] <TJ-> Slade: well, identify the OUI of each MAC address and correlate that to the ethernet chipset
[01:12] <Slade> i did the ip link show, and i dont see the f7 anywhere in there
[01:12] <TJ-> Slade: that should help identify which hosts have the hardware e.g. https://macvendorlookup.com/
[01:12] <Slade> this might be why we failed to get docker working without crazy sadness
[01:14] <TJ-> Slade: is the Ubuntu system also hosting full-fat containers or VMs (with their own ethernet interfaces)
[01:14] <Slade> no
[01:14] <Slade> just a random dell desktop formated with the latest ubuntu on it
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> ooo, that sounds complex
[01:15] <Jakethepython> Hello Room i am trying to SCP into a server and it is saying No directory
[01:15] <Slade> yea. i dont get it
[01:16] <ManxPies> How Do I get A Spotify Icon (from the Spotify snap) in my menu ?
[01:16] <Slade> ugh. i bet its this crapstain of a cable modem.
[01:16] <bazhang> ManxPies, did you try in #snappy yet
[01:17] <Slade> yea. the mac address is 1 number off from the cable modem/router
[01:17] <ManxPies> bazhang: No, thank-you (I didn't think anyone was awake there).
[01:18] <TJ-> Slade: have you used arping to target each address?
[01:18] <Slade> no. not sure what that'll tell me now that i know what it is
[01:18] <TJ-> Slade: ahhh, so the router is taking an IP being given out via DHCP ?
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> Jakethepython: can you post the entire error, or pastbin the output for us to take a look? (Please remove any sensitive info before posting)
[01:19] <Slade> no, its taking an ip thats statically assigned
[01:19] <TJ-> Slade: the IP address statically assigned to the Ununtu host is being taken by the router ?
[01:20] <Slade> apparently
[01:20] <Jakethepython> scp CH\ PRECISION/ jacob@192.168.1.50: /media/raid/CHP
[01:20] <Slade> but only on some connections
[01:20] <Jakethepython> /media/raid/CHP: No such file or directory
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> ManxPies, these support rooms often appear dead, but their are helpful people waiting for your question. Just ask your question there and when someone sees it they'll respond
[01:20] <TJ-> Slade: you said earlier you shrank the DHCP pool range; did you restart the dhcp service/the router after doing that?
[01:20] <Slade> dhcp is being handled by the router, and yes its been rebooted
[01:21] <TJ-> Slade: and, is the router issuing private IP addresses or an public subnet ?
[01:21] <Slade> 192.168.0.*
[01:21] <Slade> (not my favourite)
[01:21] <TJ-> Slade: sounds like either a configuration problem or a bug in the router then
[01:22] <Slade> yea. sadly only the internet provider can access
[01:22] <TJ-> Slade: which IP address is it?
[01:22] <Slade> .4
[01:22] <Jakethepython> that is all it gives me
[01:22] <Mothafunk> Hi all ...brand new to irc! here nice to meet you
[01:23] <TJ-> Slade: and what have you set the pool range to?
[01:23] <Slade> dhcp 11-255
[01:23] <Slade> err 254
[01:23] <Slade> that was my request, and it seems to be obeying
[01:23] <guiverc> Mothafunk, this is a support channel, not for conversations unless the talk is related to Ubuntu support
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> Jakethepython: take a look at "man scp" I don't think your arguments are correct
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> !language | guiverc
[01:24] <TJ-> Slade: by 'request' you mean you asked the ISP to set that, and your observations seem to show it starts allocating with .11 for DHCP LAN clients?
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> sorry guiverc
[01:24] <Slade> TJ-, inded
[01:24] <guiverc> np
[01:25] <TJ-> Slade: If you take .4 off the ubuntu host does the router respond to the .4 address? can you use nmap to scan what services it is offering?
[01:25] <Slade> if i unplug the .4 machine, all pings to .4 timeout
[01:26] <TJ-> Slade: but you'd need to clear the ARP/neighbour cache if you just pull the plug, so it can be rediscovered
[01:26] <TJ-> else other machines may well be trying to contact the unplugged MAC
[01:27] <Slade> no, i have 2 test machines. 1 constantly pinging the 33 (correct) mac, and the other f7(router) mac..  when i unplug both die
[01:27] <Jakethepython> Even w/ the recursive option it still says directory not found on the remote side
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> Jakethepython, There is appears to be a space between the server name and your path. Remove the space after the colon and try again?
[01:28] <guiverc> Mothafunk, if you want to talk about Ubuntu, try #ubuntu-discuss , if you want to talk about other topics, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Jakethepython> Uhg i feel dumb its working
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> Jakethepython, it happens to us all
[01:29] <Jakethepython> thank you
[01:29] <TJ-> Slade: pinging... you mean you're using arping ?
[01:29] <Slade> No. Pinging the ip
[01:30] <Slade> TJ-: I appreciate you thinking this through with me. It's weird
[01:30] <TJ-> Slade: you've confused me; how can you be pinging based on the MAC address? are you pinging different IP addresses, or the same one?
[01:31] <Slade> 2 machines sitting side by side show different Mac addresses for the same ip
[01:31] <TJ-> Slade: ahhhh!! OK, that makes some sense, despite weirdness :)
[01:32] <TJ-> Slade: does the Ubuntu host being pinged have multiple physical interfaces
[01:32] <Slade> 1 wireless (not connected different Mac address). 1 Ethernet. It's connected with the 33 address
[01:33] <TJ-> Slade: 1. Any VLANs involved?  2. Are both test hosts in the same 192.168.0.0/24 sub-net ?
[01:34] <tharkun> Good $DAY. I have a xenial machne running but I am trying to  update it andI get Reading package lists... Error! \ E: Encountered a section with no Package: header \ E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_xenial_main_binary-amd64_Packages \ E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:34] <TJ-> Slade: I'm wondering if there's some proxy-arp going on
[01:34] <Slade> I can ask any vlans.
[01:35] <TJ-> Slade: and 3. are all hosts directly connected to the router by cable?
[01:36] <Slade> Some are cable some are wireless. There is no pattern to who sees it correctly.  I can clear the arp cache on a machine and it will get the other address
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> tharkun, sometimes your update conincides with a mirror update. give it some time and try again later. I usually recommended waiting 24 hours before trying again
[01:38] <Bashing-om> tharkun: ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partialsudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ' should fix .
[01:38] <TJ-> Slade: what is the make/model of the router?
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks Bashing-om ... i just noticed it was a local file conflict for them
[01:39] <tharkun> pragmaticenigma: Thanks
[01:39] <Bashing-om> pragmaticenigma: Personally, I have a bad tunnel vision affliction :)
[01:40] <netsrot> Hi, I just updated and now the firefox icon is huge in pavucontrol. What went wrong?
[01:40] <pragmaticenigma> tharkun, take a look at Bashing-om 's suggestion
[01:41] <Slade> TJ-: Technicolor tc8715d
[01:41] <netsrot> I'm using artful amd64.
[01:42] <TJ-> Slade: I'm wondering if you've got a compromised/malicious process on the LAN spoofing the MAC
[01:43] <Bashing-om> tharkun: correct " pt/lists/partialsudo mkdir " to be pt/lists/partial ; sudo mkdir .........
[01:43] <Slade> It's just 1 digit away from routers mac. And it dies as soon as I unplugged the real..
[01:43] <Slade> Maybe tho
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot, there have been a few reports of the icon becoming larger after the update to firefox is installed. sometimes logging out and back in will correct it. I know someone here had the same issue last night, I wasn't able to stay long enough to see the fix :-(
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot, hopefully someone saw or knows how to fix it.
[01:44] <tharkun> Bashing-om: E: flAbsPath on /var/lib/dpkg/status failed - realpath (2: No such file or directory)
[01:45] <netsrot> pragmaticenigma: thanks. I tried rebooting but it didn't help.
[01:46] <TJ-> Slade: is the host you're pinging configured to be in the router's DMZ?
[01:46] <Slade> No
[01:46] <Slade> Least it shouldn't be
[01:48] <Bashing-om> tharkun: Ouch ! what shows ' ls -al /var/lib/dpkg/status ' ? It contains all the data dpkg requires to update and uninstall packages.
[01:49] <tharkun> Bashing-om: hmm fixed it I had rename the status file as .bad I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the information.
[01:50] <Bashing-om> tharkun: :) // All good now ?
[01:50]  * madmangunr2 shakes fist at phone *play nice!
[01:51] <tharkun> Bashing-om: Downloading all the updates now. like 500MB
[01:53] <Slade> TJ-: I can't think of anything specific to the Ubuntu install that would do this either. Has to be that router
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot, it's a common issue... most I've seen have found a copy of the icon and placed it in the icon folder in /usr/share/pixmaps/ ... though I'm not 100% how it works
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> This article might get you in the right direction netsrot : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310093
[01:53] <TJ-> Slade: I've been reading the router manual. Nowhere does it show an ability to alter the DHCP server range or sub-net, *but* it does show the ability to statically reserve an IP to a MAC address. I'm wondering if that whatever changes the ISP made accidentially configured a router MAC address for the reserved range, and it's kernel ebtables or possibly iptables, is causing the response to appear to come from
[01:53] <TJ-> the router (MAC)
[01:54] <TJ-> Slade: s/reserved range/reserved IP address (.4) /
[01:54] <Slade> Hmm
[01:55] <TJ-> Slade: to confirm, you have no access whatever to the router web admin ?
[01:55] <Slade> Correct
[01:56] <TJ-> Slade: is that because you don't have the password, is is there no port 80 service offered ?
[01:56] <TJ-> s/is is/ or is /
[01:57] <TJ-> Slade: I'm trying to get an idea of how customised the firmware of your router might be compared to the manual I'm reading
[01:57] <Slade> No password
[02:01] <TJ-> Slade: the best explanation I can think of is there's some layer 2 bridging configured in the router (which could cause the router to respond to ARP requests with the MAC address of it's own interface in some circumstances)
[02:02] <phoenix_firebrd> is it safe to install duckduckgo firefox browser extension?
[02:03] <Slade> I'm wondering if it's related to another network problem I'm having
[02:03] <madmangunr2> oh god i feel dirty, powerline shell win 10 bash *shudders
[02:03] <Slade> Network printers .2 .3 report themselves as offline randomly
[02:06] <madmangunr2> and throw in a dash of vcxsrv to run all my apps..   *damn you windows
[02:06] <TJ-> Slade: can you correlate this in respect of devices on wireless vs wired? Because that's the obvious point at which a bridge interface is often used where the bridge ports are the ethernet interfaces and the wireless interfaces
[02:06] <bazhang> madmangunr2, lets keep the random chatter elsewhere please
[02:07] <Slade> No correlation
[02:09] <Slade> Also. Seems like no ipv6 issues
[02:11] <madmangunr2> *and arch and ubuntu do play nice using the smae encrypted home directories.
[02:12] <madmangunr2> Off topic :)
[02:28] <mib_0rmpis> hi
[02:28] <supernovah> Hey is there anything wrong with installing a precise package on xenial?
[02:28] <mib_0rmpis> ive got feedback for tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#4
[02:28] <mib_0rmpis> can i leave it here?
[02:30] <supernovah> Actually does anyone have any hints on where to find a ppa that will have an older version of something - I have something specific in mind but I'd like to know how you find these ppas...
[02:30] <dax> mib_0rmpis: https://github.com/canonical-websites/tutorials.ubuntu.com/issues would work better, if you found something that needs changing
[02:31] <guiverc> supernovah, possibly depends on the package.  it may make calls (using APIs) to libs/et.al. that have changed, but more likely will be okay.  (if dpkg/apt handles is used to install, it should be handle such differences if packaged correctly) - note: opinion only
[02:32] <supernovah> guiverc: ye
[02:34] <supernovah> I uninstalled a pakage on my system that was at version 6.1.0.dfsg.1-5 according to dpkg, so I built and installed an older version of it and ran sudo make install after, now I see the original package version in dpkg --list | grep texinfo still
[02:34] <supernovah> as in I built and installed 4.13, but this modern version seems to still be installed
[02:36] <guiverc> supernovah, if you installed it from tarball (or anything outside of dpkg/apt-get/..) it won't be known on the dpkg/apt database - why it'll not report it.
[02:37] <supernovah> guiverc: how do I inform the system about it then
[02:37] <supernovah> symlink in /usr/bin?
[02:38] <supernovah> guiverc: and no its not a tarball, its source built with gcc 4.6
[02:38] <supernovah> Because 4.6 seemed to be around the same time as this legacy version
[02:39] <guiverc> i can't help you there; i've only bothered to ensure programs run easily; then document (so I have a trail when i/someone forgets) and move on...  - sources compiled are what i meant with tarball (ie. .tar.gz|bz)
[02:40] <supernovah> guiverc: yea I realised that... but for some reason it becomes hard to find current software in the future... I don't get it, always end up having to rebuild old stuff
[03:03] <Slade> TJ-: I'm giving up for the night. Maybe a clear head tomorrow will help. Thanks for the assistance
[03:28] <starfalls> what is a "tracert" command for linux
[03:29] <francisvgarcia_> traceroute
[03:29] <guiverc> tracert?  or do you mean traceroute?  - `man traceroute` tells me it "prints the route packets trace to network host"
[03:31] <dax> mtr is pretty good too
[03:55] <starfalls> thanks guys
[04:00] <rehmat> hlo
[04:01] <rehmat> i am new on this channel
[04:01] <rehmat> may God bless you all
[04:01] <Bashing-om> rehmat: Welcome to ubuntu support . You have a question ?
[04:02] <rehmat> no sir.....i dont have any question
[04:03] <Bashing-om> reorder_: Great ... non-support and general ubunbu chat is in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[04:08] <theorchid> Anyone have a laptop with 7700HQ cpu and discrete nvidia gpu?
[04:08] <theorchid> when I put prime profile to use intel GPU it doesn't work
[04:09] <Bashing-om> theorchid: Ask your real questiom, You will get a better response :)
[04:10] <theorchid> Bashing-om, my question is why doesn't the intel GPU work when I enable it from Nvidia Settings app
[04:10] <theorchid> it says log out and log back in, then X won't load when I do
[04:11] <Bashing-om> theorchid: wayland as the DE ? Then no workie .
[04:11] <theorchid> does lubuntu 17.10 use wayland?
[04:12] <Bashing-om> theorchid: yes .. by default unless you have changed to Xorg . ( then one can install the proprietary driver ) .
[04:12] <krytarik> No, it does not.
[04:13] <Bashing-om> theorchid: What reports terminal command ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[04:14] <theorchid> I'm not in Linux now... I'll have to reboot to check
[04:14] <theorchid> but the proprietary driver works, only switching to the intel gpu doesn't work
[04:17] <Bashing-om> theorchid: Might check that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is sane . We can check further when you have it booted up .
[04:23] <matthew2> Hello I have a web server question.  Does CGI have to be formally invoked or enabled, and can I use bash as the CGI script?
[04:38] <Saint_Philomena> Sorry about the question... but it is safe install "steam" in linux?! give root to steam install the .deb... i dont trust much steam privacy...
[04:40] <Lurchy> hey all
[04:45] <nacc> Saint_Philomena: steam is avaiable from ubuntu directly (in multiverse)
[04:50] <Saint_Philomena> nacc it is safe to have steam in root?
[04:51] <nacc> Saint_Philomena: i don't understand your question
[04:52] <luxio> Saint_Philomena: you should generally avoid running programs as root unless it's absolutely necessary
[04:52] <nacc> Saint_Philomena: installing something *as* root does not mean it runs as root
[04:53] <Saint_Philomena>  ohhh ok so if i install the software in one user account only for games the program only run with user account
[04:53] <Saint_Philomena> "run the program" i want to say
[04:54] <Saint_Philomena> ok thank you
[04:56] <exit70> hi, is it possible to get package list of files from apt-cache(1) or apt(1)?
[04:58] <exit70> i know "dpkg -L" need something for uninstalled packages
[04:58] <nacc> exit70: apt-file is what you want
[05:00] <exit70> i see. i don't like it needs an extra database though.
[05:00] <nacc> exit70: ok
[05:01] <nacc> exit70: well, not sure what you want, dpkg can't know about uninstalled packages
[05:01] <var> Hello ! Anyone there?
[05:02] <exit70> nacc: yeah correct let me check the source of apt-file
[05:02] <guiverc> var, if you have a ubuntu support question, please just ask it (on a single line).  if someone in the room knows the answer, they will answer it.  a response may awhile, please be patient
[05:03] <guiverc> :s/may awhile/may take awhile/ sorry
[05:05] <var> Ok, thanks, I just tested polari
[05:09] <exit70> nacc: thx for mentioning apt-file
[05:10] <guiverc> var, tested polari?  sorry but I don't see a [support] question?
[05:10] <nacc> exit70: np, it's the simplest option
[05:13] <var> guiverc, Sorry, I just take a look.
[05:16] <guiverc> var, if you want to talk about ubuntu please try #ubuntu-discuss (another room), if you want to talk about other things you could use #ubuntu-offtopic (it requires freenode registration), but this room is support only.
[05:17] <var> Ok, thanks.
[05:30] <bU1337Pr00f> Hi! Anyone on?
[05:32] <guiverc> bU1337Pr00f, if you have a question, please just ask it (this is a ubuntu support room). if someone knows the answer, they'll reply. please be patient waiting for response
[05:34] <bU1337Pr00f> Great, Iǘe been having issues getting my surround sound to work.
[05:37] <bU1337Pr00f> I am running Ubuntu 17.10 on a maybe 6 year old Dell Inspiron Tower with a Celeron class CPU with 2GiB of RAM. I have everything running through the onboard HDMI port running to a Visio 4k which routs audio to the ARC.
[05:39] <bU1337Pr00f> I know that the surround sound works. It works with Windows 10 just fine. Iǘe gone in and changed the default channels in the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf file from 2 to 6 channels, I used pavucontrol to make sure that the right setup was picked and in the sound settings.
[05:41] <bU1337Pr00f> Iǘe been searching through Stack Exchange, the Ubuntu documentation, etc. & I just can seam to find the right way to get it to work.
[05:41] <bU1337Pr00f> I also tried to get it to work through my laptop, but alas it too was only able to do stereo
[05:44] <bunnyman> hey guys
[05:45] <bU1337Pr00f> Howdy
[05:46] <bunnyman> how are you guys doing tonight?
[05:47] <Espopore> bunnyman, i am doing well; and you?
[05:48] <bunnyman> I'm in a melancholic state
[05:48] <bU1337Pr00f> Thereś a plant for that.
[05:48] <bunnyman> but enjoying the night listening to some jazz
[05:51] <bU1337Pr00f> Anybody know of any fun channels to lurk on?
[05:58] <bunnyman> i havn't been on here in years so now i'm curious
[05:58] <bunnyman> 2
[06:07] <bU1337Pr00f_01> Hello?
[06:09] <warty> hello
[06:10] <warty> does anyone know how to get 4.10s repos working
[06:11] <dax> replace the server name in the sources.list file that comes with it, with http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <bunnyman> i'm out guys talk to you tomorrow thanks
[06:13] <warty> thanks a lot dax!
[06:15] <bU1337Pr00f> Does anyone know how to get surround sound working?
[06:16] <SwedeMike> bU1337Pr00f: elaborate more on what you're trying to do.
[06:16] <warty> i tried to run sudo apt-get update on 4.10 and got this "Get:1 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages [483kB]
[06:16] <warty> Ign http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Release
[06:16] <warty> E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
[06:16] <warty> " any ideas on what to do?
[06:22] <bU1337Pr00f> SwedeMike, i am trying to get 5.1 surround sound to work. Already went into settings and enabled it in the sound settings oannel, changed the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf file so default is 6 instead of 2. Used pavucontrol as well but evey time i test the speakers only the stereo channels will output sound. This happens on my laptop as well.
[06:37] <Haris> hello all
[06:38] <Haris> I have xenial install. on login, it says there are updates to be installed. when I run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade it doesn't address them. how do I go about it ?
[06:39] <guiverc> Haris, try `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`  (upgrade has more restrictions on what can be upgraded than dist-upgrade - refer `man`)
[06:39] <Haris> I'm not looking to upgrade from xenial to art/ful
[06:40] <Haris> just to upgrade a few pkgs on xenial
[06:40] <guiverc> Haris, that'd require a release-upgrade ... try it and it'll ask for permission and you can see what it upgrades - ie. confirm it includes the packages you have held..
[06:42] <guiverc> from `man apt-get` is the following "dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and
[06:42] <guiverc>            it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary.
[06:42] <Guest13604> when i try to chroot into my root dir from a live 16.04 cd..trying to recover boot... i get this error chroot: failed to run command 'bin/bash' no such file or dir
[06:44] <Haris> hmm
[06:54] <SwedeMike> bU1337Pr00f: surround sound output to what?
[06:54] <genewitch> how do i tell ubuntu not to update the kernel?
[06:54] <genewitch> but still do apt upgrade for everything else normally?
[06:55] <SwedeMike> bU1337Pr00f: via HDMI? 6 discrete analogue outputs? TOSLINK?
[06:56] <EriC^^> !pinning | genewitch
[06:57] <genewitch> thanks
[06:57] <EriC^^> np
[06:57] <SwedeMike> bU1337Pr00f: anyhow, you can look into the xbmc/kodi setup guides for this, there is a lot of help there. Generally on recent ubuntus, you should be able to set this up mostly just within pulseaudio. But it's important to thoose the correct output device, so you dont get default-stereo-via-hdmi instead of hdmi-dolbydigital-passthrough for instance.
[06:58] <genewitch> what's the kernel package called? i always forget
[06:58] <EriC^^> genewitch: linux-image-generic is the metapackage
[06:59] <genewitch> if i apt-mark hold linuximage-generic that should stop it from upgrading?
[07:00] <EriC^^> genewitch: yup
[07:00] <genewitch> I've been having major problems with the spectre patches slowing down VMs that shouldn't even need spectre patching
[07:01] <EriC^^> genewitch: linux-image-generic *
[07:01] <genewitch> thanks for your help
[07:01] <EriC^^> genewitch: also you can hold the headers as well, linux-headers-generic
[07:01] <genewitch> yeah this keyboard misses dashes, i got it correct on the CLI. and good plan
[07:25] <cyyber> Hello, I tried installing gcc-5 g++-5 on Ubuntu 17.10, but it installed gcc v5.5 . I am looking to install gcc v5.4 on Ubuntu17.10
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !latest | cyyber
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> cyyber: we reccomend using package versions, specificly for your ubuntu version
[07:26] <cyyber> @lotuspsychje there is some project, that can only be compiled with gcc v5.4
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> cyyber: try !backports if you really need it?
[07:28] <cyyber> !backports
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> cyyber: this project you need, did you check if its available on the ubuntu repos?
[07:30] <cyyber> @lotuspsychje its cryptonote-util
[07:33] <peter22> hello folks :-)
[07:34] <peter22> does anybody know a good application for linux for seeing which devices with IP-Addresses are in a Wifi?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> peter22: nmap is a good ip scanner, not sure about wifi part
[07:37] <peter22> lotuspsychje thank you, will try that out :-)
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> peter22: whats your purpose exactly?
[07:38] <peter22> in my wifi there are many appletvs and i d like to know the ip address of each
[07:38] <peter22> :-)
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !info linssid | peter22 not tested myself
[07:40] <peter22> ubottu lotuspsychje thank you!! i ll try that
[07:40] <peter22> :-)
[07:44] <guiverc> peter22, i've used `airomon-ng` etc to scan - found in aircrack-ng package (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=aircrack-ng)
[07:47] <indistylo> my Ubuntu VM instance is still running but I am not able to do SSH. what could be the plausible reason, I tried doing ssh -vvv {Host_name} it dont go beyond debug2: ssh_connect_direct: needpriv 0
[07:58] <asklah> hi, does anyone have problems with zram under Ubuntu 16.04?
[08:00] <asklah> For a few weeks my system is like unusable when swaps to the zram.
[08:12] <vlt> Because that sounds like an extremely stupid idea.
[08:17] <tga> greetings, on xubuntu, if starting i3 instead of xfsession, all my gtk settings seem to be ignored (lxappearance saves things correctly in .gtkrc-2.0 and .config/gtk-3.0)
[08:17] <tga> does anyone happen to know what could cause that or what I am missing?
[08:22] <atllknox> up
[08:52] <tmm88> heyho
[08:52] <tmm88> good morning
[08:52] <tmm88> is there any special settings
[08:52] <tmm88> for improving life battery in ubuntu
[08:52] <tmm88> on laptops
[08:52] <tmm88> ?
[08:52] <tmm88> i see my laptop heating up a lot
[08:52] <tmm88> and i guess that's battery
[08:53] <tmm88> because cpu is under 5 percent
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | tmm88
[09:07] <kevr> blueman is giving me an error about Typelib for xlib version '2.0' not found
[09:08] <jay__> Mozilla keeps crashing on Ubuntu Mate. Anyone have a easy fix ?
[09:15] <kevr> How can I uninstall everything except for core?
[09:22] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> !mini | kevr
[09:25] <kevr> on an existing install
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> kevr: i think its gonna be hard purging all kinds of stuff
[09:26] <ShriHari> !mini
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> kevr: better try the way around start basic, and buildup how you need it?
[09:27] <kevr> o_O
[09:28] <kevr> no, i can't reinstall it
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> kevr: mass purge from terminal then? sudo apt purge vlc rar smplayer..
[09:39] <ozbrk> hi people
[09:39] <ozbrk> I'm backing up my windows as a disc image from control pannel. I want to install ubuntu for try. Can I come back to windows with that disc image if anything goes wrong?
[09:40] <ozbrk> also I need a little further information about UEFI install my specs are: i7-7700HQ, GTX 950M, 8Gig RAM, 256 GB SSD
[09:43] <neure> ozbrk, have you considered dual booting?
[09:44] <ozbrk> neure: no. Windows 10 installation in this system is UEFI and as far as I read documents it is a little complicated to install Ubuntu with UEFI aswell
[09:44] <ozbrk> neure: plus my hdd is almost full
[09:44] <ozbrk> neure: sorry my ssd is almost full
[09:45] <neure> is it laptop?
[09:45] <ozbrk> neure: a gaming laptop accutaly
[09:45] <neure> i installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 with uefi
[09:45] <neure> didnt have any issues
[09:46] <ducasse> ozbrk: uefi should not hinder dualbooting
[09:46] <neure> but if you have ssd full then you would need to make space. external storage might be a good idea
[09:47] <neure> where are you putting the image anyway?
[09:47] <ozbrk> an external 1TB storage
[09:47] <neure> ssd drives on laptops are often upgradable
[09:48] <ozbrk> neure: my friend I don't wanna mention this but they are a little overpriced in my country
[09:48] <neure> I understand
[09:49] <neure> about restoring the disc image, i think it is windows question, not something #ubuntu can answer
[09:50] <neure> i would have backed up the data in a way easy to access, not sure if disc image is such thing, and reinstall windows instead
[09:50] <neure> if needed
[09:50] <neure> but image restore should work i think
[09:50] <neure> at least it sounds like it should :P
[09:50] <neure> if you install ubuntu, then you need usb stick prepared with/for uefi
[09:51] <neure> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:51] <ozbrk> windows has a little bit too much features that I don't need to be there
[09:52] <ozbrk>  If you're dual-booting with another OS, the two OSes' boot modes should match. Most computers that ship with Windows 8 and later use UEFI to boot that OS, so this configuration dictates use of UEFI mode when installing and booting Ubuntu.   That is what scares me
[09:53] <neure> it is not scary
[09:53] <neure> ubuntu boots fine in uefi as well
[09:53] <neure> i had windows 10 installation, in bios mode, and i converted that to uefi intentionally before installing ubuntu
[09:55] <neure> "In your firmware, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows 8+, also disable Fast Startup."
[09:55] <neure> that worth nothing though
[09:56] <neure> I suppose disabling fast startup in windows is pointless if you are going to erase the whole disc
[09:57] <ozbrk> in hdd era there as nothing to prepare before a good installation
[09:57] <ozbrk> I kinda missed those days :(
[09:58] <neure> i dont see any difference hdd vs ssd
[10:01] <ozbrk> ok so worth to try I guess. I will try to install ubuntu on dualboot after that backup completes
[10:01] <ozbrk> if anything goes wrong I still have my complete windows backup on my hand
[10:03] <neure> to me it has happened once that windows has updated boot and wiped grub, but i dont think this is specific to uefi
[10:03] <neure> running ubuntu installer again in that case helps
[10:04] <ozbrk> I need to make space
[10:07] <ducasse> ozbrk: free space from within windows before booting the installer
[10:08] <frost9990_> hi
[10:09] <EriC^^> hello frost9990_
[10:09] <frost9990_> hey eric
[10:10] <frost9990_> wasssup @eric
[10:11] <frost9990_> Am searching for a user (ev0x) old friend of mine in irc
[10:11] <cimmerian39>  off-topic
[10:11] <cimmerian39> hi all
[10:12] <cimmerian39> the mplayer is the best option foir xubuntu??
[10:12] <cimmerian39> for:)
[10:16] <ozbrk> oh my. After deleting my samsung backup files 50GB space have cleared
[10:17] <BluesKaj> also mpv
[10:17] <ozbrk> I have no idea why I did so many backups as an android user all of my data on my sd card after all
[10:18] <neure> sd cards tend to die
[10:18] <neure> dont use them as only storage
[10:18] <neure> having tool which removes duplicate files is also a good idea
[10:18] <neure> i used to copy sd card contents to computer without deleting files from the sd card, you do that a few times you end up with lots of duplicates ..
[10:18] <ozbrk> neure: I know but making so many backups is pointless. One backup that keep updated is shoulsd be enough
[10:19] <neure> indeed
[10:19] <neure> also be sure to clear up tmp folders in windows, there are several of those
[10:19] <cimmerian39> so there is a live here for a moment i just think im on the Mars:)
[10:19] <neure> even the trashcan can end up with lots of files :P
[10:19] <cimmerian39> ;)
[10:19] <ozbrk> in windows we used to use DOCUMENTS for just DOCUMENTS...
[10:20] <neure> Ubuntu has Documents as well :P
[10:20] <neure> I dont know why
[10:20] <ozbrk> who in the right mind came up with that idea to use that folder as an installattion folder I wonder
[10:21] <ozbrk> in win10 all of the programs are storing their data on documents folder
[10:21] <neure> not quite all but many yes and it is a mess
[10:21] <cimmerian39> strange qestion on a linux forum:)
[10:21] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: just arguing not asking though
[10:22] <cimmerian39> ok ok :)
[10:22] <cimmerian39> ozbrk maybe you know good player for xubuntu
[10:23] <cimmerian39> mplayer or vlc
[10:23] <neure> tias
[10:23] <guiverc> cimmerian39, you mentioned mplayer on xubuntu? for what?  mp3, movies? ..
[10:23] <cimmerian39> movies for mp3 i have audacious:)
[10:23] <guiverc> (also version of Xubuntu?)
[10:24] <cimmerian39>  but just amoment i upgrade distro:)
[10:24] <guiverc> yeah I like audacious for music too..
[10:24] <cimmerian39> eariel i have 16.04
[10:24] <cimmerian39> version of xubuntu
[10:25] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: well I used to use VLC wich handels all of the data
[10:25] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: since I'm a spotify user no need to worry about music for me
[10:25] <guiverc> for video on xubuntu 16.04, I tend to use vlc.  I've lately been using mpv quite a bit too, but mostly vlc  (mpv is for more recent versions; why I asked version)
[10:25] <xw_> help people... sound doesn't work on HDMI... Graphic card is ATI sx470
[10:25] <cimmerian39> i heard a loot good words about spotify
[10:26] <xw_> pardon... RX470
[10:26] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: it is and it is not sucks on linux like too many people claimed to be. They just don't give too much credit their linux development as expected
[10:27] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: since windows part is way more important for developers and making their paychecks
[10:27] <cimmerian39> well i dont think linux is sucks i think the linux is for smart  and patient people when they see black window wit command line and they not talka like shiet what is that:)
[10:28] <ozbrk> cimmerian39:  I didn't say the linux sucks I said spotify on linux isn't suck
[10:28] <xw_> I tried everything from forums for fixing this HDMI sound issue but nothing works... can you people please help me with this ?
[10:29] <cimmerian39> haha my mistake but i just say what i think about linux anyway:)
[10:29] <cimmerian39> Evolution is still good mail client or people mostly use thunderbird:)
[10:30] <guiverc> xw_, i know nothing about sound thru hdmi; but it was mentioned earlier today (you could scan irc logs looking for ref I guess) and pavucontrol (pulse audio volume control) was mentioned & setup...
[10:30] <ozbrk> cimmerian39: you're free my friend :) I won't be disrespectfull neither on windows nor linux. There are plenty people who are working hard on both operating systems aswell
[10:30] <minibox> Hey, people, and how do you feel about the fact that Canonical in ubuntu 18.04 will give up Unity?
[10:31] <guiverc> minibox, canonical, unity & 18.04 isn't a support topic - it should be talked about in #ubuntu-discuss maybe
[10:32] <cimmerian39> ozbrk i agree with your opinion but linux has a one thing what windows doesnt have no invigilation:)
[10:32] <minibox> sorry i did not know
[10:37]  * cimmerian39 thanks for the adwice and se you later all
[10:48] <ChrispyChris1992> Hey guys, was wondering if I could run a question by you guys about a swap file I made (at least I think this log error is referring to it).
[10:48] <vlt> !ask | ChrispyChris1992
[10:50] <AarKnos> !patience
[10:56] <ChrispyChris1992> systemd-cryptsetup Unit entered failed state.
[10:56] <ChrispyChris1992> I got this error in my log and I'm thinking it is because I made a swapfile, so I currently deleted it, but I'm curious if anyone knows anything more. Google was just kind of confusing me.
[11:04] <kevr> can you please show the log
[11:04] <kevr> !ask
[11:06] <ChrispyChris1992> What log would you like and will it show any information I should block out?
[11:10] <sweb> how can i get Predictable Network Interface Names when my ubuntu not loaded with it ? my server is only access via ssh
[11:11] <sweb> and interfaces named as eth0 eth1
[11:11] <sweb> i need to know Predictable Network Interface Names of those interfaces
[11:11] <deem> sweb: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-04
[11:12] <ozbrk> I can't shrink my SSD
[11:12] <kevr> why not
[11:12] <ozbrk> I cleaned up 50 Gigs of space but windows can shrink only 1mb
[11:13] <sweb> deem: i cant change anything i need to know for example now in myserver eth0 must be `enp97s0f0` ... how can i know enp97s0f0 ?
[11:14] <sweb> deem: i dont want to change anythinkg i need a simple convertor
[11:28] <simplefarmer> Hi
[11:28] <simplefarmer> who am I ??
[11:29] <sy11ab3__> Luke I am your father
[11:30] <deem> sweb: that depends on your hardware and network manufacturer. don't know how to convert thos names, sorry
[11:32] <akik> sweb: you can boot the server into a live session to see how the interface names change. i don't know either a way to find out the names
[11:33] <akik> sweb: maybe this could help you further https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c#L20
[11:38] <rosco> Using ansible I'd like to install kubuntu-desktop. But 3 packages are causing problems (telepathy). Is there a way to tell apt to install all the kubuntu-desptop pack except for those 3 packages? It seems that there is no exclude statement for apt (i'm a yum guy, I use exclude, I'm not sure about the apt side)
[11:40] <ozbrk> ok people I'm back just tried some tirth part app to resize my partition and with a bsod it did the job it seems now there is 30gigs for my brand new ubuntu
[11:53] <sere_> question: if i install the 18.04 beta do i need to reinstall again when the final version comes out or is it still the same repos etc
[11:54] <brief> how should x-terminal-emulator -e COMMAND be used? -e (and -x) is deprecated but if i try x-terminal-emulator -- COMMAND, the command is not executed
[11:54] <guiverc> sere_, 18.04 questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1 , but no you won't need to re-install.
[11:56] <sere_> quiverc. ok ty
[11:56] <terens> Hello
[11:57] <terens> I run monit locally however although it listens to localhost it doesnt work localhost:port but only 127.0.0.1
[11:57] <brief> terens: check /etc/hosts if there is 127 in it
[11:58] <dar123_> is there a way i can find what files and folders belong to a package
[12:00] <EriC^^> dar123_: dpkg -L package
[12:01] <dar123_> apt-get install apt-file
[12:01] <dar123_> apt-file update
[12:01] <dar123_> apt-file list <package_name>
[12:01] <dar123_> thanks EricC
[12:09] <Rembo> hello everyone, i'm getting this on nagios, Status Information:	CHECK_NRPE: Socket timeout after 10 seconds. can someone help?
[12:10] <tomreyn> Rembo: a tcp connection timed out after the default timeout. thats all this says.
[12:11] <tomreyn> Rembo: what kind of check is it, did it work before?
[12:17] <akik> rosco: you seem to have ran into a long running bug. are you installing kubuntu on an originall unity setup?
[12:18] <akik> rosco: you can find some solutions for that here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-plugins/+bug/1574045
[12:40] <Rembo> tomreyn: i'm getting this in nagios.log : https://hastebin.com/onukurovur.vbs
[12:43] <tomreyn> Rembo: can you connect using nc ?
[12:43] <tomreyn> ...from the system running nagios
[12:46] <akik> can somebody who's in the u.s. and has selected the timezone in the u.s. paste their /etc/default/locale somewhere? i just used usa/new york for my timezone and /etc/default/locale only contains: LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[12:50] <JimBuntu> akik, mine shows the same as yours
[13:00] <akik> JimBuntu: if i select my own timezone in finland, i get many LC_ variables in /etc/default/locale
[13:02] <Les_Linux> Hello.. everybody. First time chiming in on the ubuntu channel, please be gentle :).
[13:02] <Les_Linux> I have a small problem and hope somebody might be able to point me in the right direction
[13:03] <hateball> !ask | Les_Linux
[13:04] <Les_Linux> I am running a script which depends on linux-source (ubuntu 18.04 LTS) but cannot find the package. Any suggestions?
[13:04] <Les_Linux> noted ubottu
[13:05] <akik> !details | Les_Linux
[13:07] <akik> Les_Linux: ubuntu 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <Les_Linux> ty akik
[13:07] <JimBuntu> akik, I moved to Helsinki via date&time GUI... no change to my /etc/default/locale
[13:08] <Xano_> I'm manually testing a little CLI tool of mine that sends notifications using notify-send. Is there a way to dismiss all notify-send notifications in the queue, that still have to be displayed?
[13:08] <akik> JimBuntu: i mean, this is a install time problem. even if i select english as my language in the installer, LC_ variables get set to fi_FI.UTF-8
[13:08] <JimBuntu> akik, are getting new variables such as LC_CTYPE, LC_TIME etc?
[13:08] <akik> JimBuntu: yes
[13:09] <JimBuntu> what is your LANGUAGE environment variable show?
[13:09] <akik> JimBuntu: /etc/default/locale doesn't have it
[13:09] <JimBuntu> correct. What about `echo $LANGUAGE`
[13:10] <akik> JimBuntu: empty
[13:10] <JimBuntu> Hmmm. I'm not up on my international linux, but I find that interesting.
[13:10] <akik> JimBuntu: i've found bug reports at launchpad about this from 3 years ago with no resolution
[13:10] <JimBuntu> Is there an issue with having the LANG variable show FI settings?
[13:11] <akik> JimBuntu: i want my whole ui in english, that's why
[13:12] <JimBuntu> Although Ubuntu says there should be no need to edit the file... what happens if you edit your /etc/default/locale to be near empty (as you showed earlier), set your /etc/.profile to include the LANGUAGE of `en_US` ?
[13:12] <Rembo> tomreyn: yes, i'm trying to conect on a system who is running nagios
[13:12] <akik> JimBuntu: i can fix it by editing /etc/default/locale
[13:12] <akik> JimBuntu: but it's a install time problem
[13:12] <JimBuntu> akik, I agree
[13:14] <JimBuntu> akik, when asked for Language... which English did you pick, I seem to remember there are multiple
[13:14] <tomreyn> Rembo: i can't work with you if you respond once in every 20 or 30 minutes. also this is not very ubuntu related, you should probably seek help in a nagios related channel. and finally i don't like the business model of the company you work for / run. so i'll goive up on this. good luck.
[13:15] <akik> JimBuntu: kubuntu's first install window shows just english as default
[13:16] <akik> JimBuntu: it's the one with try kubuntu/install ubuntu
[13:16] <akik> kubuntu
[13:16] <akik> JimBuntu: first i thought that it would get the setting from my keyboard layout, but that wasn't it
[13:19] <steven__> hi i need a bit if help im having problems installing the nvidia 390.42 driver on my friends pc hes on like driver 380
[13:20] <steven__> i dont know much about ubuntu
[13:22] <leftyfb> steven__: nvidia-384 is the latest available in the ubuntu repo's. Is there a particular reason your friends wants to install anything else?
[13:23] <steven__> well the latest nvidia has is newer
[13:23] <leftyfb> ok?
[13:23] <leftyfb> if it works, why change it?
[13:24] <leftyfb> 384.111 was released in January, it wasn't that long ago. I can't imagine 390 has really any new features
[13:24] <steven__> also cant seem to get this pc conected to the home network so i get files off the other computers that are windows
[13:24] <leftyfb> steven__: the video driver will have nothing to do with that
[13:25] <steven__> ik that but thats a major problum im fasing
[13:25] <leftyfb> steven__: I would focus on fixing broken features (networking) first as opposed to "fixing" things that already work perfectly (video)
[13:25] <steven__> the windows pc has all the media and text files and i cant get to it threw the network
[13:25] <leftyfb> ok, then focus on that
[13:26] <ubuntu> hello
[13:27] <steven__> iv tryed every thang i can find online about it is people saying its inposibal thay tryed and gave up after a week
[13:27] <satta_satta> hi. anyone heard of "gvfsd-smb-browse" crashing a windows-based local network? lags, exchange not syncing, no internet access - all of that was happening until I (solemn linux user) turned of gvfsd. plausible?
[13:46] <xwx777> did anyone know other channel than this?
[13:49] <lordcirth_work> xwx777, a channel for what?
[13:49] <lordcirth_work> !alis | xwx777
[13:50] <aserra6> hello
[14:02] <maik427> !DV8 The Broken Window - Jeffery Deaver(epub).rar  ::INFO:: 1.0MB
[14:04] <JimBuntu> lordcirth_work, Last I tried it (alias), everything came back as no channel/nick... even when I tried ones that have returned.
[14:07] <merpnderp> I'm ssh'ing into Ubuntu latest with -L 3306:127.0.0.1.:3306 and I'm getting an error that forwarding can't be set up. Is there something I need to configure with Ubuntu?
[14:07] <merpnderp> Ah, I get the bind address already in use error.
[14:08] <gilescooch> merpnderp: sounds like mysql is running on both systems I guess
[14:09] <merpnderp> gilescooch: no, I had another ssh session open which had already bound to the por.t
[14:09] <merpnderp> LOoks like my real error is :channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Name or service not known
[14:10] <merpnderp> SO it appears my fresh mysql-server install isn't running :/
[14:10] <merpnderp> mysqld is running
[14:10] <gilescooch> merpnderp: Did you actually use -L 3306:127.0.0.1:3306 or -L 3306:127.0.0.1.:3306 as you posted?
[14:11] <merpnderp> I did exactly what I posted.
[14:11] <gilescooch> merpnderp: perhaps remove the full-stop after 127.0.0.1 then?
[14:12] <merpnderp> gilescooch: hmm, looks like mysql might have changed their permissions since I last used it.
[14:12] <merpnderp> I was hoping it was because I was hitting it from root@myipaddress which didn't have permissions.
[14:13] <merpnderp> But the error logs don't show a failed conneciton.
[14:13] <JimBuntu> merpnderp, please re-read what gilescooch said
[14:13] <merpnderp> gilescooch: what is the fullstop?
[14:13] <JimBuntu> also known as a period or dot
[14:14] <merpnderp> oh.....typoed in my .bash_profile.......super idiot
[14:14] <JimBuntu> typos happen
[14:15] <merpnderp> gilescooch: JimBuntu thank you so much. Completely went over my head when you pointed out my typo. Sorry about that and thanks for the help. So dumb.
[14:15] <JimBuntu> eagle-eye gilescooch to the rescue again
[14:15] <gilescooch> second pair of eyes is sometimes needed...
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> !nick
[15:20] <cyyber> is it possible to install gcc v5.4.0 on ubuntu 17.10
[15:38] <chrisml> i need to install php 5.6 (:/) on 16.04 - is there a ppa or something?
[15:41] <nacc> chrisml: use a trusty container/VM?
[15:41] <nacc> chrisml: or you can use ondrej's ppa
[15:41] <chrisml> nacc trying the latter :)
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> or wait as Ubuntu 18.04 is about to be released
[15:41] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: ?
[15:43] <cimmerian39> hi i have problem with boot
[15:43] <cimmerian39> \
[15:43] <rtlwifi> hello, im having problems with rtl8822be wireless device, ive reinstalled ubuntu, previously i had upgraded the kernel in order to get it running (which worked), this time i have "device not ready" in the network manager GUI
[15:43] <cimmerian39> i can only see xubuntu but windows 7 is gone
[15:43] <rtlwifi> `sudo ifconfig wlp5s0 up` gives me "operation not permitted"
[15:43] <cimmerian39> plesa help me to fix it
[15:44] <rtlwifi> anyone have any advice for my realtek wireless device
[15:44] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | rtlwifi
[15:44] <rtlwifi> i've searched extensively ubottu
[15:44] <rtlwifi> ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[15:45] <cimmerian39> can anyone help me with boot problems
[15:45] <rtlwifi> kern 4.15.10
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> rtlwifi, STOP... be patient
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | cimmerian39
[15:45] <rtlwifi> pragmaticenigma: im just adding details which might help
[15:45] <rtlwifi> this seems to be an ongoing issue, the rtlwifi_new github complains of ubuntu's changing API
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> rtlwifi, Do everything on one line, do not use multiple lines
[15:46] <cimmerian39> my boot only see xubuntu and windows 7 is gone from the list
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> cimmerian39, please be patient... when someone is available and has the knowledge to help you, they will reach out.... while you wait, continue researching, you may find the answer through google
[15:47] <cimmerian39> ok im patient
[15:48] <akik> cimmerian39: if you run "sudo update-grub" does it show the windows os?
[15:49] <cimmerian39> i try im fresh with xubuntu:)
[15:50] <cimmerian39> well i check and i have info windows 7 boot loader is found:)
[15:50] <cimmerian39> this means then now my windows should works fine
[15:50] <akik> cimmerian39: ok try a reboot
[15:50] <cimmerian39> ok
[15:58] <rtlwifi> i didn't either last time and had no issue
[15:58] <rtlwifi> all that's changed is ive added two 1080ti to the machine
[15:58] <rtlwifi> oh and reinstalled ubuntu
[16:01] <codedmart> pragmaticenigma: Not seeing anything in the logs.
[16:15] <daum_> hi i'm trying to install some things and i keep getting from apt E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security Release' does no longer have a Release file.  how should i resolve that?
[16:15] <maddawg2> daum_, what are you installin
[16:15] <EriC^> daum_: yakkety is eol, you'll need to fresh install a newer release or upgrade
[16:15] <maddawg2> maybe the repo is EOL
[16:15] <daum_> openvpn
[16:15] <maddawg2> oh yea what he said
[16:16] <daum_> hm will have to upgrade not sure how i ended up on 16.10 thought i was 16.04
[16:17] <maddawg2> go to 17.04
[16:17] <maddawg2> was 10 ever LTS?
[16:17] <maddawg2> nope
[16:29] <nacc> !eolupgrade | daum_
[16:29] <nacc> maddawg2: and no, don't go to 17.04, that's also eol
[16:29] <maddawg2> is it?
[16:29] <Sircle__> How can I take a good quality snapshot with my webcam on kubuntu?
[16:29] <nacc> maddawg2: yes.
[16:29] <maddawg2> oh it's up to 18.04 now
[16:29] <nacc> maddawg2: 18.04 isn't out yet
[16:33] <daum_> ha yah trying to figure out how to get the upgrade to work
[16:33] <kostkon> Sircle__, quality and webcam rarely go together, unless you've got a good HD one
[16:33] <Sircle__> I have c930e logitec kostkon
[16:34] <Sircle__> I dont have drivers though
[16:35] <ovalseven8> Hey, I've installed IntelliJ using snap in Ubuntu 16.04. How can I start the program?
[16:35] <kostkon> Sircle__, i guess good lighting and a good GIMP for post
[16:35] <ovalseven8> Typing "intellij-idea-ultimate" does not work
[16:35] <nacc> ovalseven8: look in /snap/bin for the name of the application
[16:35] <kostkon> minus 'good' gimp is good
[16:35] <nacc> ovalseven8: or run `snap info intellij (or wahtever the snap anme)` and see the exposed apps
[16:35] <Sircle__> kostkon,  driver to set frames and hdz
[16:36] <nacc> daum_: the wiki article explains how
[16:36] <kostkon> Sircle__, you could try an app like cheese
[16:36] <deadrom> hi
[16:37] <ovalseven8> nacc, Yeah the command is "intellij-idea-ultimate" but it does not work -> command not found
[16:37] <deadrom> usb broadband modem, nmcli speaks of "ttyUSB0" , is that what I put in connection.interface-name in the NM profile?
[16:37] <Sircle__> kostkon,  that for snap and video. not for Herds adjustment
[16:37] <Sircle__> frequency
[16:37] <nacc> ovalseven8: how do you know that is teh command?
[16:37] <deadrom> nmcli/nmtui wont let me connect on the new profile, say no device for that connection
[16:37] <ovalseven8> nacc, That's what "snap info intellij-idea-ultimate" says
[16:38] <nacc> ovalseven8: do you see it in /snap/bin ?
[16:38] <ovalseven8> "intellij-idea-ultimate"
[16:38] <kostkon> Sircle__, i'm not sure what that means but you could try with ffmpeg or gstreamer
[16:39] <nacc> ovalseven8: was that an answer that it was in /snap/bin? can you pastebin `echo $PATH; ls -ahl /snap/bin` ?
[16:39] <Sircle__> kostkon,  cam auto adjust, frequency etc are things for which drivers are needed
[16:39] <kostkon> Sircle__, gstream-launch is it? create your own pipeline
[16:39] <kostkon> Sircle__, i guess so yeah
[16:39] <Sircle__> kostkon,  those are not the tasks of cheese of ffmpeg
[16:40] <deadrom> oh, and how do I make a usb serial device become the same on next reboot? i..e not that it turns into ttyUSB1 for some reason
[16:41] <rtlwifi> apologies for repeating, i lost chat history due to the netsplit, i have a RTLWIFI rtl8822b which is not working in ubuntu 16.04.4, worked fine before, i had upgraded kernel because it seems the bundled driver had some recent support/development
[16:42] <rtlwifi> which seemed to work, i was having frequent disconnections prior
[16:42] <carnot> Hi, I have ufw on Ubuntu 16.04 and I would like it to be as locked down as possible. However, at the moment I can't communicate with a docker container from the host machine. I know it's ufw because if I disable it everything works. Can anyone help or point me towards links?
[16:42] <carnot> so far I have tried: allowing the ports I have forwarded in ufw and adding: DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" in /etc/defaults/ufw
[16:42] <rtlwifi> now i just get "device not ready" in the network-manager gui
[16:42] <deadrom> rtlwifi, usually firmware upgrade required
[16:43] <deadrom> realtek needs to die. they are becoming a royal annoyance these days
[16:43] <rtlwifi> tbh any manufactuer that doesn't provide os-agnostic libraries needs to die
[16:43] <deadrom> word
[16:44] <deadrom> gtg
[16:44] <rtlwifi> thanks, i'll try firmware
[16:45] <Puffton> If I run commands with nohup in /etc/rc.local, will there be any nohup.out files generated on start-up? If so, where?
[16:50] <tomreyn> carnot: did you reload / restart ufw?
[16:51] <carnot> tomreyn: yes, I did sudo ufw reload and also sudo ufw disable && sudo ufw enable and restarted docker between each iteration
[16:51] <tomreyn> carnot: this is a bit dated, but i guess it still describes the situation and how to handle it properly: https://svenv.nl/unixandlinux/dockerufw/
[16:53] <carnot> tomreyn: looks good, I missed the last two steps. I'll try after work. Thank you
[16:56] <Sircle__> kostkon,  cannot adjust focus with cheese
[16:58] <kostkon> Sircle__, i'm guessing the camera has autofocus
[16:59] <Sircle__> kostkon,  yes. it seems not good at pictures with details
[16:59] <kostkon> Sircle__, guvcview might offer some more options if it's still available in the repos
[17:01] <Sircle__> kostkon,  thx
[17:05] <Sircle__> kostkon,  its showing my front cam. Not the one I us in usb
[17:06] <kostkon> Sircle__, that's even worse. unless it's got an option to choose the device
[17:13] <Chuck_> may I ask JUJU questions here or is that another channel?
[17:13] <rtlwifi> are windows supposed to be so laggy when i drag them in ubuntu?
[17:14] <rtlwifi> i move the mouse and they take a while to snap into place, these are 1080ti cards running the latest proprietary driver
[17:14] <rtlwifi> doesn't seem to be an issue with the hardware or drivers, seems that unity is just trying to factorise prime numbers on every onmousemove
[17:15] <rtlwifi> https://askubuntu.com/questions/71750/dragging-a-window-is-laggy-windows-do-not-follow-the-mouse-while-moving-smoothl
[17:15] <rtlwifi> more over engineered crap
[17:15] <mmfood3> hey, quick question. Is awk installed in ubuntu by default? I am doing a task that must only rely on pre-installed software
[17:21] <demon_> any one know how i can use my computer as hotspot ??
[17:22] <EriC^> mmfood3: yes
[17:22] <EriC^> demon_: settings > network > wifi hotspot
[17:24] <yeats> mmfood3: yes, awk is installed by default
[17:24] <gaza_commander> after make allnoconfig , there are no options to modularize certain drivers i would otherwise mark with Y or M. for instance there is only [] and not <> on IPV6 option. What must i do here?
[17:24] <yeats> !info awk
[17:24] <yeats> meh
[17:25] <yeats> !info gawk
[17:26]  * mmfood3 is confused
[17:26] <mmfood3> optional = not installed by default?
[17:28] <mmfood3> damnit, I am really slow to pick up on what usernames are bots.
[17:31] <DonkeyHotei> running 14.04 atm and my hdd just got remounted readonly due to a disk hiccup. i tried to sudo mount -o remount,rw /, but sudo needs to write to /var for that to work. i need to fix this without rebooting. ideas?
[17:33] <EriC^> DonkeyHotei: what's it say when you try sudo mount -o remount,rw / ?
[17:33] <tomreyn> DonkeyHotei: what's the error message? and does it work with "sudo -i" followed by the mount command?
[17:33] <DonkeyHotei> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/danielg4/3: Read-only file system
[17:35] <DonkeyHotei> ok, with -i it becomes root
[17:35] <tomreyn> DonkeyHotei: find out why it got unmounted before you look any furthger. dmesg -T
[17:35] <DonkeyHotei> i did
[17:35] <tomreyn> okay, tell us ;)
[17:35] <DonkeyHotei> like i said, a disk hiccup
[17:35] <tomreyn> that's a very non specific, non technical term.
[17:36] <DonkeyHotei> i mean, a bunch of readiness errors in a row, followed by a period of no errors
[17:36] <tomreyn> do a fsck
[17:37] <tomreyn> -f
[17:37] <DonkeyHotei> i'm not gonna fsck a running system
[17:37] <DonkeyHotei> and anyway, it's still not letting me remount rw
[17:39] <tomreyn> well then reboot into something else and fsck from there
[17:40] <DonkeyHotei> the whole point is to temporarily avoid a reboot so i can save stuff
[17:43] <tomreyn> you probably have a root file system with errors. it was automatically remounted read-only to prevent (further?) data loss. once remounted r,o you can safely run a fsck. but you prefer not to. alternatively, you could reboot into a different system and fsck from there. but you prefer not to reboot yet. i don't think you have a lot more options at this point.
[17:44] <DonkeyHotei> oh, right, i can fsck when it's ro. forgot about that
[17:44] <annasha> my problem is https://imgur.com/gallery/ANWby
[17:48] <annasha> I am having some systemd-logind.service problem  https://imgur.com/gallery/ANWby
[17:49] <tomreyn> annasha: the first issue is about modem manager, check the logs as indicated.
[17:52] <annasha> tomreyn: I dont get even a login shell even to check, now on a live env
[17:54] <sr_pizza> hello. can anyone suggest a browser that can be run fullscreen without ever stopping from loading the homepage? Chrome Firefox all seem to have various limitations specifically asking you if you want to restore a past session when power is restored
[17:54] <tomreyn> annasha: switching the temrinal via ctrl-alt-fX where X is in 1..8, may still wrok form the live system. but chroot moounting from a recovery system surely can work, too.
[17:55] <annasha> tomreyn: no, it doesn't but I dont need the modemmanager coz I dont have any modem, So I can loose that service if necessary
[17:55] <sr_pizza> I have tried setting flags but it always seems to find something it wants to ask the user
[17:56] <annasha> tomreyn: ctrl+alt+f1 to f8 is not working
[17:57] <donofrio> added a channel from ##windows called ##windows-subsystem-for-linux feel free to join me and we can discuss moar wsl on w10 ;)
[17:57] <annasha> tomreyn: ok I am on a chroot env
[17:57] <annasha> tomreyn: now what?
[17:58] <tomreyn> annasha: inspect syslog, see what's been failing and why.
[18:00] <tomreyn> sr_pizza: i suggest you talk to developers of some web browsers directly. mozilla hve their own irc network (IIRC). most web broiwsers offer a kiosk mode which is meant to be well prepared for full automation.
[18:00] <sr_pizza> I think firefox ditch kiosk flags in favor of plugins
[18:01] <sr_pizza> then you get nagged for money every so starts
[18:01] <annasha> less /var/log/syslog
[18:01] <annasha> cat /var/log/syslog
[18:02] <annasha> opps, sorry
[18:02] <rtlwifi> should windows be lagging so much behind when dragging? ubuntu 16.04.4 with nvidia 1080ti on the nvidia-384 driver
[18:03] <rtlwifi> kern 4.15.10
[18:03] <rtlwifi> fresh install
[18:04] <nacc> rtlwifi: uh, 4.15.10 ??
[18:05] <annasha> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/l532
[18:05] <nacc> rtlwifi: so you built your own kernel?
[18:06] <Grzesio> hey
[18:07] <rtlwifi> no nacc, it's from kernel.org
[18:07] <rtlwifi> i needed to upgrade to get my rtl8822be working, as it didn't on previous versions
[18:07] <tomreyn> annasha: the first error message from your latest boot seems to be: ufw-init[257]: /lib/xtables/libxt_conntrack.so: /lib/xtables/libxt_conntrack.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[18:07] <nacc> rtlwifi: kernel.org is for source kernels; do you mean the mainline PPA?
[18:07] <TC_T> Hey there I' m not sure if this is the right place to ask: Is anyone here familiar with getting a new OS onto a blank sshd-drive? As far a I know on a sshd the OS belongs onto the flash-drive - is there anything special I need to consider about that?
[18:07] <rtlwifi> i did not install from ppa
[18:07] <nacc> rtlwifi: well you're running an unsupported kernel, so it can easily be buggy
[18:07] <nacc> rtlwifi: how did you install it?
[18:07] <rtlwifi> dpkg
[18:08] <nacc> rtlwifi: ... this is like pulling teeth. provide a link to the .deb?
[18:08] <nacc> rtlwifi: you know you are in the ubuntu support channel, obviously; we support ubuntu (which does not include a 4.15.10 kernel in any release)
[18:08] <tomreyn> ^ i had the same conversation with rtlwifi before and gave up on it
[18:08] <mmfood3> !info gawk
[18:08] <nacc> tomreyn: ok, good to know
[18:09] <tomreyn> annasha: this suggests that ufw (uncomplicated firewall) wasunable to initialize xtables because it tried to load a 32-bit xtables module but your system seems to be amd64.
[18:10] <tomreyn> annasha: did you make customizations to firewalling in terms of iptables, xtables, ufw?
[18:11] <rtlwifi> tomreyn: apologies, i did not come back to check messages
[18:11] <Xard> i've been testing ubuntu 18.04 beta and it works actually really well but it overwrote my efi boot selector for 16.04... can't they exist side by side?
[18:11] <rtlwifi> actually i downloaded these from kernel.ubuntu.com, it turns out
[18:11] <annasha> tomreyn: yes, that was me, I tried to rescue my system using a 32bit environment, then I did the damage
[18:12] <rtlwifi> nacc: these are from ~kernel-ppa mainline 4.15.10
[18:12] <tomreyn> annasha: uh yes that'll have broken it for good.
[18:12] <nacc> rtlwifi: right, not the same at all as kernel.org
[18:12] <nacc> rtlwifi: and did you read the ~kernel-ppa page?
[18:12] <rtlwifi> okay, so you do support it, then
[18:12] <nacc> rtlwifi: what?
[18:13] <nacc> rtlwifi: no. read the page
[18:13] <tomreyn> annasha: always rescue using either the rescue mode of the installed system or the latest installer image.
[18:13] <nacc> rtlwifi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[18:13] <nacc> rtlwifi: they are unsupported, for testing only
[18:13] <tomreyn> annasha: ...for the system you have installed
[18:13] <tomreyn> annasha: i guess i'd recommend a full backup and reoisntall now.
[18:13] <rtlwifi> nacc: alright, well i was forced to upgrade as i saw comments in changelog referring to rtl8822be
[18:14] <nacc> rtlwifi: no one 'forced' you to do anyting :)
[18:14] <rtlwifi> it did not work with the kernel that was distributed on the livecd
[18:14] <nacc> rtlwifi: you can also get a different network device, e.g.
[18:14] <rtlwifi> that's not really an acceptable answer, we're talking about a very commonly used linux distribution and very commonly used hardware, and id like to get it working
[18:14] <nacc> rtlwifi: did you file a bug?
[18:15] <nacc> rtlwifi: does it work without the hwe stack (e.g., on the 4.4 kernel)?
[18:15] <rtlwifi> it did not
[18:15] <nacc> rtlwifi: my point was no one 'forced' you to do anything
[18:15] <nacc> rtlwifi: so when did it work? i thought you mentioned it worked beofre?
[18:16] <mmfood3> sorry, might have lost possible answer to the question regarding awk being installed by default. It it says "In component main, is optional" does it require additional install on a fresh system?
[18:16] <rtlwifi> i had installed previously from the same recently created liveusb, upgraded kernel and wifi worked, previously i was having frequent disconnections
[18:16] <rtlwifi> ive installed two 1080ti, and a fresh reinstall of ubuntu, now the interface wont come up
[18:16] <annasha> tomreyn: ok, I have replaced "cp -r /bin /lib /mnt/", trying to revert that from a backup, lets see
[18:16] <nacc> mmfood3: its only preinstalled on server installations
[18:16] <nacc> mmfood3: you want to use the `seeded-in-ubuntu` command
[18:17] <rtlwifi> that's the only change i can think of and it's unlikely (although not impossible) to have an effect
[18:17] <nacc> mmfood3: the component does not, alone, tell you if it's installed by default or not (the seeds do)
[18:17] <jeremy31> rtlwifi post the url after running the 2 commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480
[18:17] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: thanks, two secs
[18:17] <nacc> rtlwifi: you installed previously from a recently created liveusb? so it wasn't that recently created? or you reinstalled again after installing once just now?
[18:18] <mmfood3> nacc: ok, thx
[18:18] <rtlwifi> recent as in a few weeks ago
[18:18] <nacc> rtlwifi: but there are many updates every day
[18:18] <rtlwifi> and performed the same step that got the interface working last time
[18:18] <rtlwifi> yes, im aware of that
[18:18] <nacc> rtlwifi: so i'm not sure what your datapoint is trying to represent?
[18:18] <mmfood3> seeded-in-ubuntu was not installed by default how ironic
[18:18] <rtlwifi> i did a dist-upgrae this time
[18:18] <nacc> mmfood3: well, it's a tool for developers
[18:18] <rtlwifi> nacc: fair point, something has changed
[18:20] <jeremy31> rtlwifi and the results I asked for should give me a clue
[18:20] <rtlwifi> i should run them from a fresh install also to give better data, i'll do both...
[18:20] <mmfood3> nacc: sure, not having a go.
[18:20] <jeremy31> rtlwifi Run them now
[18:20] <ram__> nacc: i am using a AWS ubuntu image and been struggling to get grub booting my kernel regradless of what i do to grub. Is there something special needed on AWS for ubuntu images?
[18:21] <mmfood3> before I turn to ddg, how do I check my ubuntu version?
[18:21] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: i just need to connect from that machine for easier pasting of results...
[18:21] <jeremy31> rtlwifi ok
[18:23] <mmfood3> nfm, lsb_release -a
[18:23] <mmfood3> s/nfm/nvm
[18:24] <rtlwifi2> jeremy31: https://pastebin.com/vGX59sKk
[18:25] <rtlwifi> thats it in working condition, i need to unload that kernel and repeat, and its slow because i'll then need to usbpen copy the results, or pull out the network cable from my router.....
[18:25] <rtlwifi> and plug into the wired interface
[18:26] <jeremy31> rtlwifi See https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[18:27] <rtlwifi> thanks, that looks interesting
[18:27] <rtlwifi> i did try other suggestions, can't find the refs just now
[18:27] <jeremy31> I think chili555's post should fix, your encryption is good, but you have auto channel and possibly auto 20/40MHz enabled on the wifi router
[18:28] <nacc> ram__: i'd ask in #ubuntu-server, i can direct you to the right people
[18:28] <rtlwifi> the router configuration could be improved? jeremy31
[18:28] <ram__> ok.
[18:28] <ram__> going there.
[18:28] <jeremy31> rtlwifi get it set to a single channel, 11 should work and set it either to 20 or 40 MHz channel width
[18:30] <rtlwifi> thanks, it's just stock settings as it came with the apartment, but i'll configure it (been wanting to change the password anyway ;) jeremy31
[18:31] <rtlwifi> another thing worth nothing is that the /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8822befw.bin did not come installed, i believe it's in linux-firmware
[18:32] <z01d> Hey, is anyone running GitLab under Ubuntu 16.04? I am having major problems i can't seem to fix?
[18:33] <nacc> z01d: the version from ubuntu?
[18:33] <jeremy31> rtlwifi it should be in https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/rtlwifi
[18:33] <rtlwifi> it is
[18:34] <z01d> nacc: no the official one
[18:34] <nacc> z01d: you mean from upstream?
[18:34] <z01d> curl -sS https://packages.gitlab.com/install/repositories/gitlab/gitlab-ce/script.deb.sh | sudo bash
[18:34] <nacc> z01d: then you'd need to ask gitlab for support, unfortunately (i assume they have an irc channel or mailing list)
[18:34] <z01d> ok
[18:34] <nacc> rtlwifi: it's in the linux-firmware package in bionic
[18:34] <z01d> nacc: do you use the ubuntu version?
[18:34] <nacc> z01d: no :)
[18:34] <z01d> lol
[18:34] <jeremy31> rtlwifi Did you try using Larry Finger's github in kernel 4.4 or other?
[18:35] <nacc> z01d: but i would try to help if you were
[18:35] <z01d> ok let me install that as it has the same issue
[18:35] <z01d> gimmie a minute
[18:35] <durgeoble> hi
[18:35] <nacc> z01d: i mean it's probably easiest to ask gitlab directly anyways
[18:35] <nacc> z01d: since they presumably know how their product works :)
[18:35] <nacc> z01d: what kind of issues are you seeing?
[18:36] <z01d> the postgresql doesn't stat when i restart gitlab and it stops it from working
[18:36] <z01d> (gitlab comes bundled with its own postgresql)
[18:36] <nacc> rtlwifi: it's possible that firmware is not yet available on older releases, since they don't have a kernel that would use it
[18:36] <durgeoble> how can i mount one directory into another with diferent owner:group tried gid=33 in fstab but dont work
[18:37] <rtlwifi> https://pastebin.com/Nd0M40Nm jeremy31 that's the log in the broken state
[18:37] <rtlwifi> with 4.13.0-37-generic kern
[18:37] <nacc> z01d: the ubuntu package does not come bundled, it uses the system postgres, fwiw
[18:38] <EriC^^> durgeoble: what filesystem?
[18:39] <durgeoble> EriC^^:  ntfs i think, is a vm so the vbox mount the directory as root:Vboxusers and i want in other locatios as root:www-DATA
[18:40] <durgeoble> the source is a pendrive
[18:40] <jeremy31> rtlwifi If you want to use that wifi in 4.13 try https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/e3c9145999243837c92e447811652aee
[18:41] <Barones> Hi is there any tool to create the index of a book?
[18:41] <jnewt> having issues with opening files or saving files to my samba server.   works fine from windows computers (or even my computer when i boot it to windows).   but i can't open files from the mounted drives with libre office, can't save either.
[18:41] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: yes i tried that previously, it had the disconnection issues also, but i will try again, should i send you a log in that state?
[18:42] <rtlwifi> well i guess i will if it's still malfunctioning
[18:42] <jnewt> not sure if it's linux or libre office, i guess i can determine that myself, but either way, it doesn't work.
[18:42] <jeremy31> rtlwifi Follow the instructions from the ubuntuforums post and try my instructions after deleting any rtlwifi_new directory in home
[18:43] <jeremy31> rtlwifi You will need to have Secure Boot disabled in UEFI/BIOS to use lwfingers github
[18:43] <rtlwifi> it is
[18:43] <rtlwifi> i had to disable to run the 1080tis the only reason i reinstalled, and ended up nuking my ssd as a result :(
[18:43] <rtlwifi> thanks to the very misleading installer instructions
[18:44] <rtlwifi> i assumed id get gparted screen but "erase and install" starts messing with the drive immediately, i only ended up losing code that had been refactored, so it's not a huge deal
[18:44] <jeremy31> rtlwifi post results for > cat ~/rtlwifi_new/.git/HEAD
[18:45] <rtlwifi> ive not cloned it yet because i have to muster the motivation to pull the network cable out, so i can install rtlwifi_new
[18:45] <rtlwifi> if i clone that repo then HEAD should give me the most recent commit hash right
[18:46] <rtlwifi> im confused
[18:46] <jeremy31> rtlwifi OK, A lot of people would pull from master and that won't work with your chipset the HEAD file should show extended
[18:46] <Asmodeus_> Hello everyone! Is this the right channel for Ubuntu help?
[18:46] <rtlwifi> ah yes, sorry, i do remember people saying to switch to that branch, and i did
[18:46] <jeremy31> rtlwifi My instructions should work in 4.13 if any will
[18:46] <rtlwifi> at the time, but thanks for theads up
[18:46] <G33kDad> Question... if i have 18.04 beta installed, will it update to the lts when its released?
[18:47] <rtlwifi> i will disconnect from here because i'll lost internet, brb, will let you know how it goes (and thanks again jeremy31)
[18:47] <jeremy31> rtlwifi you can find me on ubuntuforums.org
[18:47] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, it is
[18:48] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: great, 'cause I'm having some trouble changing my desktop background (16.04 lts, unity)
[18:48] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, describe your problem and someone might be able to help
[18:49] <Asmodeus_> So I open the Appearance applet from the search and click on a different wallpaper to use. No error appears, but the wallpaper doesn't actually change.
[18:53] <nacc> G33kDad: #ubuntu+1, but yes
[18:54] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, does the same happen if you select one from your filesystem i.e. by pressing +
[18:54] <nacc> G33kDad: you should be keeping your installation uptodate anyways (normal sudo apt update/upgrade/full-upgrade)
[18:54] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yes
[18:54] <G33kDad> nacc: yes, of course :)
[18:55] <nacc> G33kDad: then you're fine, beta is just a point in time
[18:55] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: okay i seem to have wifi, if i get any disconnections ill try the wifi router config changes you suggested, wont post you logs unless anything else goes awry
[18:55] <jeremy31> rtlwifi ok, will be away from keyboard for a bit
[18:55] <G33kDad> nacc: what did you mean by #ubuntu +1?
[18:56] <annasha> tomreyn: it was my sis machine, finally I am able to revert it and restored almost \o/ <btw me pavlushka>
[19:00] <JimBuntu> G33kDad, there is a channel... named... #ubuntu+1
[19:00] <ducasse> G33kDad: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 18.04 support until it's released
[19:00] <G33kDad> ducasse: oh, great. Thanks. Im loving it so far
[19:13] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yes, same behavior with image from filesystem
[19:15] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you could try this https://askubuntu.com/a/836300/1651
[19:17] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: should i reboot afterwards?
[19:17] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, logout
[19:19] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: I've run the two commands (completed w/o errors) and relogged, but the problem persists
[19:19] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, ok
[19:19] <MarceeZ> Hello all My friend have ubuntu 12.04 version i make unity --reset and my dashboard home button not working
[19:19] <MarceeZ> And i cant repair it
[19:19] <MarceeZ> Wtf
[19:20] <MarceeZ> Is 12.04 old version of ubuntu?
[19:20] <kenrin> It went end of life last month
[19:20] <kenrin> No more support
[19:20] <kenrin> Er last month of last year
[19:21] <JimBuntu> After a nice run of 5 years supported
[19:21] <Asmodeus_> time to do-release-upgrade
[19:22] <jeremy31> rtlwifi did it work?
[19:23] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: it seems tohave for now, sometimes it would disconnect frequently and sometimes after long intervals, so the jury is still out
[19:24] <rtlwifi> but so far it's looking good, which means this install is almost satisfactory
[19:24] <rtlwifi> apart from the slow/laggy window dragging
[19:24] <rtlwifi> which is really grinding my gears
[19:25] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: is there anything else i should try?
[19:25] <nacc> G33kDad: it's the channel for bionic support, as it's not yet released
[19:25] <nacc> G33kDad: ah sorry, ducasse answered for me :)
[19:25] <rtlwifi> but yeah, id also suggest "erase and install" be followed by a confirmation screen, even if the red text is obvious... it's inconsistent with the other user paths which take you through gparted and a confirmation
[19:25] <toshiba_> Discord app does work on updated Lubuntu ??
[19:25] <Juser123> Greetings all.  I'm trying to get ubuntu 16.04 installed on my macbook pro (mid 2014 version 11,3)  The software installs but I'm unsure how to get it to boot via the "option" button.  Do I have to install an EFI bootloader?  Google has given me several differing answers.  still want OSX as bootable.
[19:26] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, output of gsettings list-schemas | grep -i background
[19:26] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: any suggestions or experience with slow window dragging, rendering in general seems fast, it's just gui (unity)
[19:26] <kostkon> toshiba_, should work generally
[19:26] <rtlwifi> 1080ti with nvidia-384
[19:26] <kostkon> toshiba_, installed through snap?
[19:26] <Juser123> also, I did the --no-bootloader option starting up ubiquity so it didn't mess with that...
[19:27] <toshiba_> Thanks you @kostkon !
[19:27] <kostkon> toshiba_, ?
[19:27] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: two lines, "org.gnome.desktop.background" and "org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background"
[19:27] <jeremy31> rtlwifi Not my area of expertise
[19:28] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you could try this, see if it'll work   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///path_to_wallpaper
[19:28] <rtlwifi> jeremy31: np
[19:29] <toshiba_> @kostkon I will try the Discord app now.
[19:29] <jeremy31> rtlwifi try> echo "options rtl8822be ips=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8823be.conf
[19:29] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: "The key is not writable"
[19:29] <jeremy31> rtlwifi after a reboot that might help wifi a bit more
[19:29] <rtlwifi> seems okay for now
[19:29] <rtlwifi> but i'll do that as a precaution
[19:29] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, did you type everything correctly
[19:30] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yes
[19:30] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you need to set the path yourself
[19:30] <rtlwifi> anyone here with gfx / gui experience, slow/laggy windows when dragging... fresh install 16.04.4 desktop, nvidia 1080ti on nvidia-384 proprietary driver
[19:30] <rtlwifi> i tried the compizsettings changes suggested in various places, none have helped
[19:31] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: i realize that, i chose "file:///usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png"
[19:31] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, try a different one:  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///usr/share/backgrounds/Flora_by_Marek_Koteluk.jpg
[19:33] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: same result, "The key is not writable"
[19:34] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, ls -la ~/.config/dconf/  ?  does the folder belong to you?
[19:36] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: paste.ubuntu.com/p/v2cSpRtWTY/
[19:36] <fabiansc> Hello! I accidentially locked my ubuntu user with sudo passwd -l <<username>> is there a way to undo it? I only have this account on the system having sudo rights
[19:36] <fabiansc> I can login via SSH via private key..
[19:37] <nacc> fabiansc: you probably have to reboot into recovery mode, mount the disk at the recovery shell, and as that user unlock your account
[19:37] <nacc> fabiansc: also, that's one heck of an 'accident', to not only type your password in the prompt, but also to specify locking the account of your own user
[19:37] <fabiansc> nacc: is the recovery mode part of ubuntu? its on a raspberry
[19:37] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, https://askubuntu.com/a/531754/1651
[19:37] <nacc> fabiansc: dunno if it's available there, but i assume so (it's shown as an option in grub on intel-ish systems)
[19:38] <nacc> fabiansc: alternatively, boot from a liveusb and do the same
[19:38] <fabiansc> nacc: is there a keyboard combo to move into the recovery mode?
[19:39] <nacc> fabiansc: no, you'd need to specify it to the bootloader, the 'recovery' kernel commandline parameter
[19:39] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: ~/.config/dconf is owned by me already, and i have rw access
[19:39] <nacc> fabiansc: give you don't have root access, you're not going to be able to do that, i assume
[19:41] <fabiansc> nacc: so I assume I just set up the pi from scratch :)
[19:41] <fabiansc> nacc: thans!
[19:44] <Jordan_U> fabiansc probably could have mounted the SD card on another machine and edited /etc/shadow :(
[19:47] <SeaShelll> inside a systemd unit file what does "=-" mean in the following line "EnvironmentFile=-/etc/default/networking"? maybe the inverse of just "="?
[19:49] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: is there anything else i should try?
[19:50] <ioria> SeaShelll, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/404199/documentation-of-equals-minus-in-systemd-unit-files
[19:50] <rtlwifi> nobody experienced the slow/laggy window dragging in unity?
[19:51] <rtlwifi> doesn't matter what window type, is happening even on a solitary terminal window
[19:51] <SeaShelll> ioria: thanks
[19:51] <yaaic|demo> hi
[19:51] <ioria> SeaShelll, ok
[19:51] <windowlag> i cant work with it, that's for sure, it would make me seek another window manager, i heard xfce is okay
[19:51] <windowlag> *dm
[19:52] <Asmodeus_> windowlag: https://askubuntu.com/a/71789 ?
[19:52] <Bashing-om> windowlag: Same conditions in the quest session ?
[19:53] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you could try renaming your dconf folder so that a new one will be created but probably some things will revert back to their defaults. Also, before that, you could try changing the wallpaper with dconf-editor (you need to install it first), see if it'll work. Other options is, install ccsm, check for any relevant option in unity and other plugins, reset unity, reset gnome, etc.
[19:53] <netochka> How to set Ubuntu to completely shut down when you close the laptop. and How to configure the power button settings on Ubuntu?
[19:54] <windowlag> 16.04.4 with 4.13.0-37-generic, tried reducing mouse poll to 1
[19:54] <windowlag> and disabled grid plugin (compiz)
[19:54] <Eusebius> hallo
[19:56] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: "dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri 'file:///usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png'" says "error: The operation attempted to modify one or more non-writable keys". $DCONF_PROFILE is "user" and readonly
[19:57] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, ls -la ~/.config/dconf/user
[19:57] <jolowolo> What should i do when ubuntu mate dosent want to handle my wifi? It's after i installed raspAP (to use my computer as an router)
[19:58] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: "-rw-rw-r-- 1 family family 20163 Mar 16 15:18 /home/family/.config/dconf/user"
[19:58] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, try with dconf-editor just to make sure since its a gui app
[19:59] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: same result :(
[19:59] <Asmodeus_> windowlag: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365058&p=13661620#post13661620
[19:59] <phibs> anyone know whats up w/ launchpad? It keeps giving me a timout error trying to upload my GPG key...
[19:59] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, want to rename the folder, logout and see what happens?
[20:00] <JimBuntu> netochka, edit your /etc/systemd/logind.conf ... you should see settings for what to HandleLodSwitch/etc (for the lid close setting, poweroff)
[20:00] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, the dconf folder not the whole .config
[20:00] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: ok, trying this
[20:00] <netochka> JimBuntu: Ty
[20:01] <JimBuntu> yw.
[20:01] <netochka> shall i use sudo for that command line?
[20:02] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: it created a new dconf folder, but the background didn't reset to default, oddly. everything else did
[20:02] <JimBuntu> netochka, https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks
[20:02] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, but you can't change it still
[20:02] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: no
[20:04] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, what;s the dconf value for the background now
[20:05] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: 'file:///usr/share/backgrounds/tstbuntu.png'
[20:05] <windowlag> Asmodeus_: thanks
[20:06] <windowlag> do you think the driver version is relevant, i.e. 375.66 driver. vs my current 384
[20:06] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, that shouldn't even exist i'm guessing
[20:06] <windowlag> im also wondering why the builds ship with this kind of lag, are there smoketest machines that can check for this?
[20:06] <windowlag> it seems like a pretty serious regression imo
[20:06] <windowlag> would you not say?
[20:06] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: It does exist, though I don't think it's part of any package
[20:07] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, it isn't
[20:07] <psycoborg> hi, got a silly question.... and im 100% sure its simple.. but here it goes. i just installed a regular 1TB hdd, and a 120 gig SSD, right now i have linux, and my apache Server on the SSD. this i dont mind too much, but i want all my web pages documents and php scripts along with images, and videos on the regular HDD. as the SSD will quickly fill up. so, the HD is mounted, as in the desktop i can open it and create files and move it
[20:07] <psycoborg> in the GUI. but i dont know how to point apache to the other HD
[20:07] <psycoborg> is there a youtube video that can help guide me on this?
[20:07] <psycoborg> im looking but all im finding is how to change locataions within 1 HD
[20:07] <psycoborg> not from 1 hd to another.
[20:08] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: is your hdd in fstab?
[20:08] <windowlag> Asmodeus_: im also seeing the mouse pointer take a stupidly long time to appear upon the desktop appearing after logging in
[20:09] <windowlag> im not sure if that's symptomatic
[20:09] <windowlag> so... disable sync to vblank and flipping? enable tripple buffering, force composite, and then MANUALLY go to the settings application every time  you log in???
[20:09] <windowlag> on commonly used hardware (1080ti)
[20:10] <windowlag> e.g. many people choose ubuntu as a deep learning workstation OS (in my case)
[20:11] <windowlag> it's odd that it's not tested for in an automated smoketest or similar
[20:11] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, seems there's an option about wallpapers in compiz, it's for setting a different wallpaper on each of your workspaces or something like that. want to explore that option (with ccsm)?
[20:12] <ioria> windowlag, 1080ti commonly used ?
[20:12] <Asmodeus_> windowlag: yeah that does seem weird. you might have better luck with nouveau?
[20:12] <Gargoyle> windowlag: My 1080Ti works fine with nvidia driver (17.10 here though)
[20:13] <ottomatik> Hello I'm facing an issue with VirtualBox.Every time I start a virtual machine. The host becomes unresponsive. I have To do a hardware reboot
[20:13] <Gargoyle> Windows only lag when I start mining ethereum! :P
[20:13] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: "The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed. To run 'ccsm' please ask your administrator to install the package 'compizconfig-settings-manager'"
[20:13] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, yep that's the one
[20:14] <windowlag> ioria: yes, they are
[20:14] <windowlag> AshIndigo: but nouveau is not hardware accelerated?
[20:15] <windowlag> Gargoyle: given my experience with ubuntu 16.x there's not a chance in hell im switching to 17
[20:15] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: well this is concerning. it seems that sudo has been broken/maliciously reconfigured. I no longer have the privilege to install packages, despite being the only account on the machine. Recovery mode?
[20:15] <windowlag> some hacking tools go in and replace system bins like that
[20:16] <windowlag> to make sure you cant lock them out
[20:16] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, interesting development but yeah
[20:16] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: alright
[20:16] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, out of the blue. hmm try your best to recover your account
[20:16] <psycoborg> i dont know. im gonna look...
[20:17] <psycoborg> it should be located in /etc/fstab right?
[20:17] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: So, the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" entry within grub instructs me to enter a username. Is this normal?
[20:17] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: yeah
[20:18] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, right after you clicked on it?
[20:18] <kostkon> selected*
[20:18] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yeah
[20:19] <psycoborg> erm. no.
[20:19] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, hhmm no idea. is your fs encrypted?
[20:19] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: no, it's not encrypted..
[20:20] <Gargoyle> windowlag: That is flawed logic
[20:20] <windowlag> no it isn't
[20:20] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, i guess it shouldn't ask you for one
[20:20] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: should i try my linux credentials?
[20:20] <windowlag> sure you want to stay where most support is, but what is considered "stable" never truly is
[20:21] <windowlag> these release cycles are not catching large issues and thats why they crop up again and again
[20:21] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, that's what should be happening https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[20:21] <tgm4883> windowlag: any reason is going to have a percentage of issues, stable or not
[20:21] <psycoborg> apparantly o dont even have that folder
[20:21] <psycoborg> o.0
[20:21] <windowlag> tgm4883: exactly, the name "stable" is a misnomer
[20:22] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: after step 4, it just says "Enter username: "
[20:22] <windowlag> and as much as i like being on the bleeding edge, my main concern is a usable workstation
[20:22] <Gargoyle> windowlag: stable != works for everyone
[20:22] <tgm4883> windowlag: that's... not what I said.
[20:22] <netochka> how can i fix this >>>> > WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[20:22] <windowlag> i know, but it's still a stupid term
[20:22] <tgm4883> windowlag: why is it a stupid term?
[20:22] <windowlag> its fine for a branch name but doesn't have any connection to reality
[20:23] <windowlag> stable meaning what?
[20:23] <windowlag> that it builds???
[20:23] <Gargoyle> windowlag: stable = not going to significantly update.
[20:23] <windowlag> not going to significantly change, right
[20:23] <windowlag> so from one stable to the next, you should see no change in functionality
[20:23] <windowlag> at least no regressions
[20:23] <Gargoyle> So if it is not working for you, you can be confident that it will stay stable in its broken state for the rest of 16.04 life
[20:24] <Gargoyle> windowlag: no
[20:24] <psycoborg> wait, i found it.
[20:24] <tgm4883> Gargoyle: there's some exceptions to that, but it's mostly the case
[20:24] <windowlag> how are you going to catch regressions if you aren't even testing for them? just rely on bug reports?
[20:24] <Gargoyle> You mean from 1404 LTS to 16.04 LTS?
[20:24] <windowlag> yes
[20:24] <windowlag> my experience making that transition has been troubled
[20:24] <Gargoyle> no. That's not my interpretation of how it works anyway.
[20:24] <windowlag> sure, its subjective
[20:24] <windowlag> that's my point
[20:25] <windowlag> words and reality are very different
[20:25] <tgm4883> windowlag: I'm pretty confident there wasn't any regressions in GTX1080 support from 14.04 to 16.04
[20:25] <Gargoyle> 16.04 is a release. That single release will stay stable.
[20:25] <ioria> windowlag, sy, your issue is ? ( apart  considering a 1080 titan a common video card)
[20:25] <windowlag> i had huge issues actually tgm , i was running them on a deep learning box, upgraded, many issues
[20:25] <netochka> how can i fix this >>>> > WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[20:25] <windowlag> when cuda etc. is involved
[20:25] <Gargoyle> And generally, going from LTS -> LTS is pretty safe.
[20:25] <hggdh> ok. Let's please return to topic; this discussion could proceed on #u-offtopic, or #u-discuss
[20:25] <windowlag> ioria: it is common, stop being sarcastic like that
[20:26] <ioria> ok
[20:26] <Gargoyle> ahh. do you have cuda unstalled?
[20:26] <windowlag> there are many people using it for deep learning, and even gaming
[20:26] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: when I enter my linux acct credentials, it kicks me back to the GRUB main menu
[20:26] <tgm4883> windowlag: the GTX180 was released in May, 2016. Long after 14.04 was released. So 14.04 couldn't have had any testing for it
[20:26] <windowlag> it's a good price/performance point
[20:26] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, weird. could also be a symptom of a corrupted fs/dying HDD. your dconf and sudo, apt problem as well
[20:26] <windowlag> it's a very popular card
[20:26] <windowlag> i can try upgrading, but then what else breaks?
[20:27] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: how would a dying hdd configure grub to need a username/password combo to enter recovery mode?
[20:27] <windowlag> i dont want to take that risk tbh, ive wasted enough time pissing around with wifi drivers/firmware
[20:27] <windowlag> why does the mouse not appear for a good 30 seconds on a fresh install?
[20:27] <psycoborg> ok ubuntu was installed on sda1
[20:27] <Gargoyle> ioria: 1080Ti != Titan range of cards BTW.
[20:27] <jtreminio> Howdy y'all. What would you recommend my / and /home partition sizes be on a single 1TB drive?
[20:27] <windowlag> yeah another person who believes they know what they're talking about
[20:27] <psycoborg> and i have 2 /dev 1TB hd's listed
[20:28] <windowlag> and criticising a single comment of mine because they choose to look down on what im saying
[20:28] <oerheks> windowlag, please stop the rant, do you have an actual support issue?
[20:28] <windowlag> like i said, i work in machine learning, many people use this card, ubuntu is a distro of choice
[20:28] <hggdh> windowlag: please keep on topic
[20:28] <windowlag> oerheks: yes, i do
[20:28] <windowlag> mouse not appearing for 30 seconds after i log in, huge window lag when dragging
[20:28] <Gargoyle> windowlag: Did you say you had cuda installed? because that completely snarfed things up for me. Had to safe-bood and roll back
[20:28] <ioria> windowlag, ok, it's true there are a lot of regressions about nvidia nowdays
[20:28] <windowlag> i dont have cuda installed yet
[20:29] <windowlag> ive been trying to set this machine up all day
[20:29] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, it's just that your system is behaving really strange
[20:29] <tgm4883> windowlag: you're right. You've been complaining about how "stable" is the wrong term for it using a definition that only you agree to and we're the ones that are wrong. Ok, I'm off to play some games on my working 1070
[20:29] <windowlag> into something you could possibly call a comfortable workstation
[20:29] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: I tend to agree with you on that
[20:29] <windowlag> on a very popular linux distro, hence the rant
[20:29] <psycoborg> i believe the HD i want to use as my data drive for apache is here,
[20:29] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, so all of those problems might have a common origin
[20:29] <windowlag> also i never knew realtek, as much as they suck, was uncommon
[20:29] <hggdh> windowlag: again:stop
[20:29] <windowlag> the rtl8822be comes with my mobo, doesn't work on stock install
[20:29] <windowlag> hggdh: stop what?
[20:29] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: Any suggestions as to what that may be?
[20:29] <windowlag> i have to repeat myself in order to get some help
[20:29] <windowlag> and im trying to make some useful contributions
[20:29] <hggdh> windowlag: ranting. Enough.
[20:29] <tgm4883> windowlag: rantingk, this is the wrong place for it.
[20:29] <windowlag> im not ranting
[20:30] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: at what path is your hdd mounted?
[20:30] <windowlag> you're just interpreting the tone of my words incorrectly
[20:30] <tgm4883> windowlag: please don't use enter as punctuation
[20:30] <ioria> windowlag, please, state your main issue again
[20:30] <Gargoyle> windowlag: If you are talking brand new hardware, then this is par for the course.
[20:30] <psycoborg> i think it is either this : /dev/sda5
[20:30] <psycoborg> or
[20:30] <windowlag> these are very neutral words, i think more automated testing should be included in the development cycle, that's all im saying
[20:30] <hggdh> windowlag: and you are interpreting what I am stating. Again. Either report your issue and *KEEP* on technical stuff, of go away
[20:30] <windowlag> okay, fair enough
[20:31] <windowlag> shall i repeat my issue?
[20:31] <psycoborg> or this : /dev/disk/by-uuid/7515218e-6854-4e30-96da-9df32f04ef00
[20:31] <ioria> yep
[20:31] <kenrin> You should stop using the enter key for a peroid .
[20:31] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: at what path is your hdd *mounted* in fstab?
[20:31] <windowlag> seriously, ive had that comment in this room before. im not being that bad with it, is screen real estate really a problem?
[20:31] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you could check the integrity of your fs, the state of your HDD etc.
[20:32] <tgm4883> !details Just stick to the details and not the commentary | windowlag
[20:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:32] <windowlag> fresh install, 16.04.4, nvidia-384, 4.13.0-37-generic.... upon login mouse takes a stupidly long time to appear, when dragging the simplest of windows they lag behind the cursor... theres *SOME* improvement disabling vblank and flipping but it's still uncacceptable
[20:33] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: ok, what is the command to check disk health
[20:33] <tgm4883> windowlag: where did you install the nvidia driver from?
[20:33] <windowlag> additonal drivers
[20:33] <ioria> windowlag, tried 375  ?
[20:34] <psycoborg> its: /mnt/7515218e-6854-4e30-96da-9df32f04ef00 or am i just clueless?
[20:34] <windowlag> i can try now, if it does help then would it not make sense to recoomend 375 in the additional drivers tool?
[20:34] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: change that to something sane, say /mnt/hdd
[20:34] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, if you can still boot into desktop, then you could open Disks and do all the tests that are available there
[20:34] <windowlag> you are doing a lookup based on their hardware, and theres the notion of "recommended" but if recommended is less than acceptable then it should default to 375 (assuming that is better)
[20:35] <psycoborg> ok.
[20:35] <ioria> windowlag, 384 got issues
[20:35] <windowlag> right, i did use 375 before, it worked better
[20:35] <ottomatik> Hello can you help me please with my virtualbox issue. Every time I start a VM my host freezes and become unresponsive.
[20:35] <jeremy31> windowlag Are you sure the nvidia driver loaded in 4.13.0-37
[20:35] <windowlag> yes, at least webgl works
[20:36] <windowlag> it shows up in lsmod (under `nvidia`)
[20:37] <jeremy31> windowlag I just ask because I had some issues with dkms modules in that kernel.  And one module that was built the old way with make clean, make and it would show it was built against the old kernel
[20:37] <psycoborg> derp. no modification rights
[20:38] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: bottom of /etc/grub.d/00_header paste.ubuntu.com/p/ms4F25WN36 any ideas as to what might cause this?
[20:38] <windowlag> i'll try 375, i think it should be the recommended driver in that case... i wish for a table/matrix i can look up every time i do an ubuntu install which shows driver/hardware mismatches
[20:38] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, !?
[20:39] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, no idea. have you somehow got hacked?
[20:39] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, or installed some sort of trojan?
[20:39] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yeah, is this a virus or something like that? I'm thinking a full reinstall may be required
[20:39] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, backup and reinstall
[20:40] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, yep
[20:40] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, you should google that up though
[20:40] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yeah, reinstalling
[20:40] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: glad this is only my media center pc
[20:40] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, is it open to the internet?
[20:41] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: connected via NAT w/o any port forwards
[20:41] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, right
[20:42] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, check your logs you never know, although it might be too late already
[20:42] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: yeah. definetely time to reinstall though
[20:43] <oerheks> .. an attacker might also changed auth.log
[20:45] <ioria> Gargoyle, sy, i meant Titanium
[20:47] <netochka> how can i fix this >>>> > WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[20:47] <nacc> netochka: where do you get that from?
[20:47] <oerheks> netochka, what is the command you used?
[20:48] <Asmodeus_> kostkon: well, thank you kindly for the assistance. I'm glad we could get to the root of the problem
[20:48] <kostkon> Asmodeus_, np. we definitely did
[20:51] <psycoborg> apparantly i do not have modify rights to fstab :( im unable to edit.
[20:51] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[20:51] <psycoborg> ( face palm..  ) yeah sudo.. forgot that..
[20:52] <psycoborg> brb
[20:52] <netochka_> I got disconnected. Did you guys get my text?
[20:52] <netochka_> oh ffs.
[20:52] <wulung> any ubuntu wiki maintainer here ?
[20:53] <jeremy31> wulung, I think I can edit wikis
[20:53] <netochka_> .
[20:54] <wulung> the release page still at 16.04.3
[20:55] <wulung> no 16.04.4 yet
[20:55] <netochka> nacc:  oerheks: I tried using the Bitmask app. and got this after this command > sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable     ----  and also, he suggested that this line  means something is severly wrong with my system > Hit:1 http://APT.spideroak.com/ubuntu-spideroak-hardy release InRelease
[20:55] <akik> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ (Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (Xenial Xerus))
[20:56] <wulung> not that, this one : wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[20:57] <psycoborg> ok i changed it to  /mnt/hdd/ auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0 anything else i should change before i reboot?
[20:57] <netochka> grrrrrrr
[20:57] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: reboot, and make sure it's mounted at /mnt/hdd
[20:57] <oerheks> netochka,  use ppa-purge for the pinta ppa, and that hardy line is way old..
[20:58] <psycoborg> since i have 3 hd's i left the SSD alone, and changed the 2 1TB hd's to hdd and hdd1
[20:58] <psycoborg> ok.
[20:58] <psycoborg> ty...
[20:58] <Asmodeus_> psycoborg: then you can move your Apache stuff onto the hdd, and point Apache at it
[20:58] <netochka> oerheks: i donno what Hardy line is really. I guess it's because i installed SpiderOakONE. would unistalling it solve that specific issue?
[20:59] <amazes5_> hi
[20:59] <netochka> oerheks:  and also, could u please write down the whole command i shall be using instead of "sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable"?
[20:59] <akik> wulung: looks like that web site needs some love. the weekly news letter hasn't been updated since 10/2017
[21:00] <wulung> yeah, it's twice i notice update lag
[21:02] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I make a sound or beep, when the output of a command is the one that I am looking for?
[21:03] <mojtaba> The command is something like this: nmap -sn 192.168.2.0/24 | grep 2.23
[21:03] <oerheks> netochka, sudo ppa-purge ppa:pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable
[21:03] <netochka> ty
[21:03] <akik> mojtaba: aplay
[21:04] <jeremy31> wulung, check page again
[21:04] <oerheks> and the 2nd one i am not sure, how did you add that list? like this: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-spideroak-one-on-ubuntu-and-use-it-from-the-command-line/
[21:04] <mojtaba> akik: Can you elaborate a bit more? :)
[21:04] <akik> mojtaba: aplay can play for example a wav file
[21:04] <z01d> Hello, I am running Gitlab from the ubuntu repositories, when i install it, and browse to it - its working, i'm able to login, and do whatever, as soon as i reboot the VM, when i navigate to the page it gives me a 502 error, and i can't for the life of me figure out why?
[21:05] <z01d> Does anyone use gitlab on ubuntu?
[21:05] <wulung> jeremy31: good :)
[21:05] <netochka> oerheks: sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[21:05] <mojtaba> akik: The thing is that, I want to play, when the output is what I am looking for.
[21:05] <jeremy31> wulung Not a problem
[21:05] <akik> mojtaba: you need to write a script to do it then
[21:06] <oerheks> netochka, really/ what linux are you on?
[21:07] <netochka> oerheks: ubuntu 16
[21:07] <oerheks> you might need to install it, i thought it is standard..
[21:07] <ducasse> oerheks: it isn't :)
[21:07] <netochka> how to do that?
[21:08] <ducasse> netochka: apt install ppa-purge
[21:09] <ducasse> netochka: well, sudo apt install ppa-purge
[21:09] <akik> mojtaba: here's an example that plays a wav file if you enter "a"
[21:09] <akik> mojtaba: while [ true ]; do read ok; if [ "x$ok" = "xa" ]; then aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav; fi; done
[21:09] <mojtaba> akik: thanks
[21:09] <netochka> you see, this is the reply i got in the support forum. telling me to get rid of it. "You need to get rid of that pinta-stable PPA. It hasn't published any releases since Utopic. That's not a problem with Bitmask, but a problem with your system. Do this:
[21:09] <netochka> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable    and start the whole process again."
[21:10] <wulung> jeremy31: un-bold the 16.04.3
[21:11] <netochka> ducasse:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:11] <netochka> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:13] <jeremy31> wulung, I think that fixed it
[21:13] <wulung> yup, nice.
[21:14] <hggdh> netochka: this probably means you have another dpkg instance running somewhere
[21:14] <kostkon> netochka, close any other related programs, like your updater, synaptic, software centre, gdebi, apt-get etc.
[21:14] <netochka> I see, there is an update in process. I will wait for it to finish
[21:17] <cimmerian39> hi all
[21:22] <mojtaba> I am trying to run this command: ssh home 'watch "ls"', but I am getting this error: Error opening terminal: unknown.'
[21:22] <mojtaba> Do you know what could be wrong?
[21:22] <mojtaba> I can ssh, by ssh home
[21:23] <ycyclist> Hey, I'm unable to get this to work on my 16.04:  https://www.eriksmistad.no/getting-started-with-google-test-on-ubuntu/
[21:23] <mojtaba> I have the 'watch' program in the remote machine
[21:23] <ycyclist> I have been building the ubuntu xenial and bionic kernels successfully, but this just won't go.
[21:23] <ycyclist> Anybody know what the trick is?
[21:25] <MarceeZ> What permissions apache2 webserver is using?
[21:25] <MarceeZ> group or other?
[21:25] <MarceeZ> or user?
[21:28] <oerheks> ycyclist, 6 year old project, see the coments on that page?
[21:29] <ycyclist> Ok.
[21:31] <ycyclist> I am not seeing my error in those comments.
[21:34] <ycyclist> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/87Pncb49Gy/
[21:35] <ycyclist> It may be something obvious.  I am very rusty in my cpp.
[21:52] <kevr> your TUS are separated
[21:53] <kevr> you need to link to your test suite
[21:55] <ycyclist> Please elaboerate kevr.
[21:55] <nacc> ycyclist: not sure this is really an ubuntu support topic, fwiw
[21:55] <kevr> ^
[21:55] <GoopAway> Is there a good channel to talk about hardware?
[21:55] <nacc> ycyclist: i mean, you want a gtest channel, i assume?
[21:55] <nacc> GoopAway: #hardware (or ##hardware, I forget)
[21:55] <ycyclist> Perhaps.  Sorry but it is the ubuntu install I followed.
[21:56] <kevr> Where?
[21:56] <kevr> why does the install have you compiling code
[21:56] <ycyclist> https://www.eriksmistad.no/getting-started-with-google-test-on-ubuntu/
[21:56] <nacc> ycyclist: did you simply try the examples you linked to?
[21:56] <ycyclist> I follow exactly that document, and it fails at the make at the end.
[21:56] <kevr> this tutorial is terrible
[21:56] <ycyclist> I will not disagree.
[21:57] <nacc> ycyclist: the comments imply there are typos, etc.
[21:57] <ycyclist> However, gtest is pretty standard.  I'd think there would be better, but I have not found another ubuntu specific document.
[21:57] <nacc> ycyclist: my point being it is not about ubuntu -- it's about gtest
[21:57] <kevr> just install libgtest-dev
[21:57] <kevr> then use the system libs
[21:57] <kevr> done
[21:58] <nacc> ycyclist: yes, the package is available from ubuntu, but so are lots of things that have their own topic-specific channels
[21:58] <ycyclist> Yes, well, it requires both that install and a cmake.  Furthermore, it is about g++, not gcc.  My gcc tests work.
[21:58] <ycyclist> Or, actually I may be wrong about that.  My criterion tests work for gcc.  Sorry.
[21:58] <nacc> ycyclist: it feels like what you want is a "how do i use gtest" channel, not a "how do i install gtest on ubuntu" or "my installation of gtest on ubuntu fails to work" (it's not clear it's the latter, at least, if it is)
[21:58] <GoopAway> The mouse scroll wheel doesn't work with Firefox pages on my Lubuntu machine. Any fixes?
[21:59] <nacc> ycyclist: now, if you're writing *new* tests, that's even less relevant to this channel :)
[21:59] <ycyclist> Yes, but it acts like it is not properly installed.  Perhaps I'd better stop though.  I don't want to ask unfairly.
[21:59] <kevr> it doesnt require cmake
[21:59] <kevr> libgtest-dev is just a library
[21:59] <nacc> ycyclist: their examples require you to use cmake
[21:59] <nacc> ycyclist: not gtest itself
[21:59] <nacc> (afaict)
[22:00] <ycyclist> Note that this package only install source files. You have to compile the code yourself to create the necessary library files. These source files should be located at /usr/src/gtest. Browse to this folder and use cmake to compile the library:
[22:00] <ycyclist> That is from the document near the top.
[22:00] <ycyclist> Anyway, if you think this is too much, I'll stop and take it somewhere else.
[22:01] <ycyclist> I did ask on #google.
[22:01] <nacc> ycyclist: also it's called googletest in 17.10+ (just fyi)
[22:01] <ycyclist> This is pretty disappointing. I was hoping to unit test code this afternoon, and instead I'm going around in circules with the install.
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: oh i see, you have to build with the same options as you use to build your target
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: hence it's just a source tree
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: ok, so what cmake is failing? the one at /usr/src/gtest ?
[22:02] <ycyclist> Yes.  But that still may not be an ubuntu topic.
[22:02] <ycyclist> The package install cmake works.  It is the example cmake that is failing.
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: on what version of ubuntu?
[22:03] <ycyclist> As such, it seems it is not working for cpp.
[22:03] <nacc> ycyclist: ... the example cmake is *not* for /usr/src/gtest, which is what i just asked
[22:03] <ycyclist> $ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS \n \l
[22:03] <jtreminio> What's the recommended way to get ubuntu to have /home be separate partition?
[22:03] <jtreminio> on new install, I mean
[22:03] <nacc> jtreminio: not sure what you mean? just do so at the install optinos
[22:04] <jtreminio> nacc: I think I'm doing something wrong; if I manually configure a /, /home and swap partition my laptop doesn't find the OS on first boot
[22:04] <ycyclist> jtreminio:  I don't recall having that happen automatically.  My favorite way is simply to install on one disk, and have a second disk that is home that I format and mount configure myself.  That probably is unhelpful to most, however.  Sorry.
[22:04] <jtreminio> if I let ubuntu handle it automatically the OS boots fine
[22:05] <ycyclist> There should be a GUI tool to create new partitions, make filesystems, and mount.  Since I am a command line guy, I don't know it.
[22:05] <nacc> jtreminio: what do you mean "manually" ?
[22:05] <nacc> jtreminio: you mean manual partitioning?
[22:05] <jtreminio> nacc: selecting "Something else" on the installation type screen
[22:06] <ycyclist> Say guys, I'm pooping out so I can try rebooting and see if that fixes my problem.  I may beg more later if I am not chastized for it.
[22:06] <ycyclist> Later.
[22:06] <nacc> jtreminio: hrm, I'm not sure why it won't find the OS, that seems weird
[22:07] <jtreminio> Is it correct that I only need to define a "/", "/home" and swap? the first two primaries?
[22:08] <nacc> jtreminio: yeah, you don't "need" the second or third, but based upon your use case, of course
[22:10] <nacc> ycyclist: fyi, i spun up a LXD, install cmake libgtest-dev, cloned their git repo and it worked fine
[22:10] <nacc> ycyclist: so if you are doing literally what that website says to do, PEBKAC :)
[22:27] <jtreminio> nacc: ah, looks like grub was being installed on my usb drive instead of the ssd
[22:27] <jtreminio> weird! no wonder it wasn't finding OS
[22:33] <nacc> jtreminio: weird indeed, but yeah, that would explain that :)
[22:35] <cr0w_> .
[22:38] <phoenix_firebrd> Any one using intel graphics hardware and testing ubuntu 18.04 please check the following bug report and confirm it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1756380
[22:38] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: wrong channel, and please don't spam multiple channels
[22:38] <kostkon> phoenix_firebrd, i saw your forums post
[22:39] <Equator2018> How do I get http://www.rte.ie/radio1/ to play?
[22:40] <kostkon> Equator2018, install flash
[22:40] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: which one?
[22:40] <kostkon> Equator2018, then allow the plugin to run on that page
[22:40] <kostkon> phoenix_firebrd, which browser are yu using
[22:40] <Equator2018> How ?
[22:40] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: no not in the browser
[22:41] <Equator2018> Here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a6YEVR4
[22:41] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: In media players
[22:41] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: Its known that the browsers have disabled hardware accelerated video decoding
[22:41] <Equator2018> So ONLY 'flash' will work ?
[22:42] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: But its the problem with the intel drivers present in the distro
[22:42] <kostkon> phoenix_firebrd, sorry mixed up the nicks
[22:42] <phoenix_firebrd> kostkon: ok
[22:42] <Equator2018> Is that for me ?
[22:43] <kostkon> phoenix_firebrd, if the forum post was yours, ive read it, i know the details
[22:43] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: you've filed the bug (and the right channel is #ubuntu+1) and you just need to be patient as its resolved
[22:43] <nacc> you did post it on a Friday, US timezone, so it may not get resolved until next week
[22:43] <kostkon> Equator2018, you are gonna make me allow flash to run on the page. let's see..
[22:43] <nacc> i'll subscribe and make sure someone looks at it next week
[22:43] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: correction, I have not filed the bug report, I have updated the bug report
[22:44] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: I would like to speak to any of the devs
[22:44] <Equator2018> okay - thanks.
[22:44] <jtreminio> Is there any way to change my mount's device name? Currently it's /dev/nvme0n1, I want it to be /dev/sda1
[22:44] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: ok, well it was only filed today, afaict
[22:44] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: it's a bit crazy to expect a fix in 6 hours
[22:44] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: I have been waiting for a long time, speaking the devs before, but we need to talk a lot
[22:45] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: I am not expecting a fix immedialty, I just want a response
[22:45] <Equator2018> any update on getting rte to work ?
[22:45] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: as i said, the bug was only filed 6 hours ago
[22:46] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: also, this is not the channel to contact developers, bugs are the correct way
[22:46] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: No the issue was discussed for a long time. There is no activity
[22:46] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: ... where?
[22:46] <phoenix_firebrd> irc
[22:46] <kostkon> Equator2018, well it works here, kinda. i click on the play icon, a new window opens and then nothing. it just shows a image in the middle
[22:46] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc:  alll the channels, I will tell you which ones
[22:47] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: what channel?
[22:47] <Equator2018> kostkon: Whee do Iget flash from ?
[22:47] <Equator2018> *Where
[22:47] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: lol, "all the channels" seems a bit unlikely
[22:47] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: ubuntu, ubuntu+1, kubuntu, kubuntu-devel, the snap channel.
[22:47] <kostkon> Equator2018, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   and then restart firefox
[22:48] <Equator2018> okay thanks
[22:48] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: all of those are support channels
[22:48] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: did you file a bug when you did all of this?
[22:48] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: see there is a reason people are logging the irc channels, for reference. A bug report is fine, but discussion via irc should happen
[22:48] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: ...
[22:49] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: sorry, you're wrong, irc discussions do not in and of themselves lead to any fixes
[22:49] <cr0w__> .
[22:49] <Equator2018> kostkon: Its already installed :( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gqnvz4jjzx/
[22:49] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: also, you never once brought it up on the actual ubuntu development channel
[22:49] <Equator2018> Still doesn't work :(
[22:49] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: so you say you can have a conversion in a bug report?
[22:50] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: conversation, you mean? yes.
[22:50] <kostkon> Equator2018,  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer --reinstall  hopefully it will redownload it
[22:50] <Equator2018> trying ....
[22:50] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: So i need to file a bug report asking why was the driver in the snap core package updated to the latest one?
[22:51] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: you would (i think) post a forum topic for that, to the snapcraft forums
[22:51] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: we need to do some info gathering before we file a bug report, so how do you think we can gather that info?
[22:51] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: i feel like you're being a bit ridiculous. I don't know how you expected a fix to get into ubuntu
[22:52] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: they will just redirect me to talk to a ubuntu dev
[22:52] <Equator2018> shall have to re-login. See ya soon (if not - I am fine) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0s7ycdUcHk
[22:52] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: ... the snapcraft forums are ubuntu developers (for snap side of things)
[22:52] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: let me explain with an use case
[22:52] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: no, please don't.
[22:52] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: the vlc snap for example
[22:52] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: the bug will either get resolve or it won't, but i don't see how you can expect anything to have changed for ubuntu without a bug report.
[22:53] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: snaps are in a different channel, in ay case, #snappy
[22:53] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: and there is a contact e-mail address for the core snap
[22:53] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: see this is the thing, its like a ping pong ball. the bug should stop somewhere
[22:54] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: how can a bug stop somewhere if it's never filed?
[22:54] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: a bug was filed 6 hours ago
[22:54] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: it will be triaged now
[22:54] <acheronuk> regards the normal package, I suggested 8 days ago that you file a bug.
[22:54] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: i'm an ubuntu developer, fwiw, so i'm not just talking abstractly
[22:55] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: super, lets go to offtopic then
[22:55] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: uh, no.
[22:55] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: i've told you what you need, afaict
[22:55] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: No i need a human responce not a bot one
[22:55] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: what?
[22:56] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: lets talk
[22:56] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: wait til the bug is triaged by timo or someone related.
[22:56] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: no, i have no dog in the desktop world.
[22:58] <tessier> Wow. This channel scrolls a lot and any possible answer to my question yesterday is long gone. :(
[22:58] <nacc> !logs | tessier
[22:59] <tessier> ooh...thanks!
[22:59] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: I will file a bug, but tell me where should I file a bug to get intel va driver version 2.1.0 in snap core. because driver version 1.8.x's V9 support is broken
[23:00] <Equator2018_> kostkon: Still getting the same flash error on firefox - shall I try brave ?
[23:00] <kostkon> Equator2018_, yeah see in a different browser
[23:00] <Equator2018_> k
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: but the thing is the snap devs have already told be that the ubuntu verion 16.10 or 16.04 used cannot be updated soon along with the driver
[23:01] <Equator2018_> snap installing .....
[23:01] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: i think you are confusing things
[23:01] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: the core snap is based on 16.04
[23:01] <tessier> hah... tgm4883 never replied so I didn't miss anything. :)
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: ya the intel va driver is 1.8.x in it
[23:01] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: which has 1.7.0-1 -- if the core snap devs decided to do something else in the core snap, that is a topic for the snap developers (not ubuntu proper)
[23:02] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: ok, open a forum topic on the snapcraft forums about the core snap
[23:02] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: as i'm sure, if you asked in #snappy, they would have told you to do
[23:02] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: there are two problems to solve, the existing bug is to fix ubuntu (not snaps)
[23:02] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: a forum post on the snapcraft forums would be to resolve the snap issue
[23:03] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: who is the maintainer of the ubuntu snap core?
[23:03] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: canonical.
[23:03] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: as the contact: line of the core snap makes clear, as I asked you to look at a bit ago.
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: What about cherry picking a patch downsteam? will that be possile for 17.10?
[23:06] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: yes, read the SRU guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:06] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: although that has nothing to do with the snaps, and is about the ubuntu bug, which as i said would get triaged like normal
[23:07] <nacc> phoenix_firebrd: at this point nothing further needs to be done, except if you want to chase down the core snap issue; hopefully the bug gets resolved soon
[23:12] <phoenix_firebrd> nacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1756459
[23:13] <phoenix_firebrd> I just filed a bug report, so what else do you want
[23:17] <poigp> hello how can I get rid of this "t=canonical&ia=web" ?
[23:18] <kenrin> t=canonical&ia=web ?
[23:19] <kostkon> kenrin, when using search in firefox
[23:19] <kenrin> Oh for the ubuntu revenue thing?
[23:20] <kenrin> edit /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/searchplugins/locale/  whichever file has your locale
[23:22] <poigp> kenrin I have amazondotcom.xml, ddg.xml and google.xml inside the locale. What should I do with this?
[23:22] <kenrin> Pick whichever one search you are using
[23:22] <kenrin> remove the param name="t" value
[23:23] <poigp> inisde each xml?
[23:24] <GoopAway> I'm rather new to Lubuntu, I'm used to Ubuntu (the regular flavor), how do you get an HP printer on the same private network/subnet to be recognized on a web browser?
[23:24] <kenrin> yeah,  or for just the searches you use.  I think it defaults to duckduck
[23:24] <GoopAway> I installed hplip, but it still won't show up. I have the printer with the IP address of 192.168.0.32 and the PC with the IP address of 192.168.0.2
[23:27] <GoopAway> I remember there being something on Ubuntu at home with a Brother printer that the setup bash file thing would find the printer FOR me, and set it up automatically.
[23:36] <mojtaba> Hello, I have two remote machines, I can login to remote 2 from remote 1, but I can not login to remote 2 from my local machine. Do you know how can I rsync a directory from remote 2 to my local machine?
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> mojtaba: unless you make remote 2 accessable to local, you will have to tunnel your connections via ssh through remote 1
[23:38] <mojtaba> pragmaticenigma: I want to tunnel that, but I don't know how.
[23:39] <mojtaba> pragmaticenigma: Do you know how should I do that?
[23:42] <filifunk> hi!  I'm trying to download a program and get it to work.  It is very confusing to me because it is linux, could someone help me?
[23:43] <genii> filifunk: What program?
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> mojtaba, trying to research that... I'm not sure how to rsync while tunneling through a intermediary computer
[23:45] <mojtaba> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[23:45] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using intel graphics hardware kabylake+ please tell, need to confirm a bug
[23:46] <filifunk> genil: miniflux
[23:46] <filifunk> its an rss reader.  Digg Reader is going to shut down so I figured I'd try an open source program
[23:46] <windowlag> i fixed the laggy window issue, my monitors were running at 30hz, as soon as i fixed that they behave normally when dragging (very responsive and always under the mouse cursor)
[23:47] <windowlag> so an issue at 30hz (im assuming it's the only factor) has gone unnoticed
[23:47] <genii> filifunk: Google tells me it's written in GO, you might need that as a pre-requisite first
[23:49] <genii> filifunk: eg: package name golang
[23:49] <kostkon> filifunk, https://docs.miniflux.net/en/latest/installation.html#debian-package-installation
[23:49] <filifunk> genii:  hmmm...the requirements page doesn't mention it.  There is a thing on there called postgresql which I've never heard before.  Maybe i have to have that
[23:49] <filifunk> kostkon: Hi, yeah I've been trying to figure out that page lol
[23:50] <filifunk> so I decided to try debian package installation
[23:50] <filifunk> I've gone through step two but step 3 I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly
[23:50] <windowlag> so ive finally got my system in a decent state, the secureboot issues should throw an error when they cause a graphics driver to make unity dm fail after login, it's unclear to the novice user
[23:50] <windowlag> (one of your target audiences as a distro, i believe)
[23:51] <windowlag> anyway, make of it what you will, thanks to those that helped earlier
[23:51] <filifunk> I typed in DATABASE_URL and that doesn't do anything and I don't think that's what they are implying
[23:51] <genii> Don't add debian repositories into your Ubuntu, instead just use the same packagenames from regular Ubuntu repos, or PPAs if absolutely required
[23:52] <filifunk> I'm sorry I don't know what that means.  Are you saying I should do some sudo apt get sort of thing?
[23:52] <kostkon> filifunk, looks like you need to build the package yourself
[23:54] <filifunk> kostkon:  ok, I've downloaded a bunch of things.  I don't know how to build it.  I have a folder called miniflux master that I've downloaded
[23:55] <filifunk> genii:  why not get the debian files...are those separate from ubuntu files?
[23:55] <genii> filifunk: I think you'd be better off following this guide https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/install-miniflux-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[23:55] <genii> I wouldn't bother with the PHP5-6 PPA though, just install the php on default repos
[23:56] <pragmaticenigma> filifunk, perhaps rss owl is a better option for you? http://www.rssowl.org/
[23:56] <filifunk> pragmaticenigma: I was going to go with that...but that things isn't maintained anymore
[23:56] <filifunk> genii: that looks better
[23:56] <pragmaticenigma> filifunk, just because something isn't maintained, doesn't mean it's bad. It's just reached a maturity and stability that doesn't require a lot of maintenance
[23:57] <filifunk> genii: I don't understand the last thing you said, but maybe I'll justskip the line with the ppa
[23:57] <filifunk> pragmaticenigma...on the github page I think it said not to use it as it is vulnerable
[23:58] <genii> filifunk: You should just need: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install php ..for that part
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | phoenix_firebrd
[23:59] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha
[23:59] <phoenix_firebrd> pragmaticenigma: I will do that only when the above said condition satisfies