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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> anyone against flatpak, snap, and appimage documentation in the kubuntu manaul?03:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> All or nothing is my only opinion.03:21
valorieI think that would be great03:22
valoriebecause I don't actually know the technical differences03:22
tsimonq2Also, as a side note...03:22
tsimonq2https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-release-upgrader/port-away-from-kdesudo/+merge/34155503:22
tsimonq2That's the last kdesudo rdep.03:22
tsimonq2Er, the last *valid* one (that won't be removed alongside pykde4).03:22
tsimonq2The changes work fine in a VM from what I can tell.03:23
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> well I said all of them03:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I don't one to feel left out03:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Right, so I have no objections. :)03:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> cool. would be a nice addition for an LTS03:26
valorieI agree03:29
valorieesp as KDE is trying to provide all of them when possible03:29
valorieand they should be available via discover03:29
tsimonq2Right.03:29
tsimonq2Oooooh, another side note, falkon migrated. \o/03:30
tsimonq2We're also just a few package sponsorships and one removal away from getting rid of pykde4 in Bionic.03:31
tsimonq2Let's see if LP will actually let me file the removal bug...03:32
tsimonq2:P03:32
tsimonq2(for qupzilla)03:32
valorieyay!03:44
tsimonq2bug 175649203:45
ubottubug 1756492 in qupzilla (Ubuntu Bionic) "RM: obsoleted by src:falkon" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175649203:45
tsimonq2\o/03:45
tsimonq2Now while I'm on a roll I'll see if I can tackle bug 174824703:45
ubottubug 1748247 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu Artful) "[CVE] Arbitrary command execution in the removable device notifier" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174824703:45
tsimonq2To make it easier to track bugs, in https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa I created the artful series and the xenial series.03:54
tsimonq2Now we can file bugs specifically against different releases in Backports.03:54
tsimonq2If someone is up for some triaging, go for it!03:54
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/dYBOyS0h/file_5270.jpg03:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> New look for 18.0403:57
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oh cool!03:57
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Which theme is that?03:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> bootswatch_theme': "readable",03:58
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Cool.03:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> https://github.com/kubuntu-team/kubuntu-manual/commit/666a5e37cbf62d5153a162ac01bf9a5518c4d05904:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> lots of fixes tonight :)04:00
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Why don't you have GitHub give notifications here?04:01
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> there is for when travis builds or something04:04
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> You can also do push notifications for new commits.04:05
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I think it was setup for my personal account or something, don't remember04:05
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @tsimonq2 got a link to set that up?04:07
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, Just go to Settings -> Integrations -> Add Integration -> IRC04:08
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> we'll see04:20
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> guess that did not work.04:31
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hm, I dunno,04:40
tsimonq2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/+bug/1748247 - all of the fixes are now on the bug report.04:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1748247 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu Artful) "[CVE] Arbitrary command execution in the removable device notifier" [High,In progress]04:40
tsimonq2It's out of my hands now.04:40
valorieI assume we can't see that04:41
tsimonq2You can.04:41
tsimonq2It's Public Security.04:41
valorieso I can04:41
valoriecool04:41
tsimonq2(Either way, I'd give the KC access.)04:41
tsimonq2And there's packages for testing if you'd like to verify, too.04:41
tsimonq2:)04:41
tsimonq2I tested them myself, and that's good enough for the security team.04:41
valorienot tonight04:41
tsimonq2But a "me too!" is cool too.04:42
tsimonq2OK.04:42
valoriehave a morning meeting bleah04:42
tsimonq2Blehh.04:42
tsimonq2Good luck. :P04:42
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> valorie if you have time I'd like you to review our manual.04:42
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Need another pair of eyes.04:42
valorieperhaps on Sunday, ahoneybun04:42
valorietomorrow is totally full04:42
valorieand no for tonight04:42
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Got it.04:47
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @tsimonq2 you also have access to the manual page if you have time.04:47
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> OK.04:54
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BluesKaj;Morning folks10:50
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_messagelib build #627: FAILURE in 5.7 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_messagelib/627/12:44
santa_good morning everyone12:47
santa_good morning acheronuk, I just wanted to drop a couple of notes for you here:12:47
santa_first one, regarding the kholidays exclusion from metadata12:47
santa_I think you manually edited ka-metadata to exclude kholidays which is now part of frameworks12:48
santa_the correct way to do that is the following:12:48
santa_go to your applications directory with all the git clones12:48
santa_move kholidays somewhere else12:49
santa_run ka-update-metadata once the kholidays git clone isn't there12:49
santa_that will update the metadata _properly_12:49
santa_and second note:12:49
santa_I have a fix for the messagelib acc failing test, please don't upload it yet, I'm testing the patch with a test rebuild to make sure nothing starts to ftbfs12:50
santa_also I would like to send the patch to kde's phab and then add the headers with the patch review12:51
santa_... and that's it for now12:51
acheronuksanta_: yeah. I forgot to remove kholidays then could not be bothered to re-run12:52
acheronukwas also going to mention messagelib, but ran out of patience with it earlier12:52
acheronuksanta_: oddly, had the same error with 17.12.2 tests, which seemed to self sort. but clearly not this time12:53
santa_it seems to me the surprising thing is the 'pass', not the failure12:55
acheronukyeah. if the error I got on manual runs after a fail are correct, I struggle to see how it passed previously as well12:57
IrcsomeBot<nggraham> is there a technical or historical reason why PPAs don't provide appstream metadata for their packages?13:43
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> mm yay:14:12
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> The following packages have unmet dependencies: …  libnvidia-ifr1-390 : Depends: libnvidia-gl-390 but it is not installed …  nvidia-compute-390 : Depends: nvidia-dkms-390 …  nvidia-driver-390 : Depends: libnvidia-gl-390 (= 390.42-0ubuntu1) but it is not installed …                      Depends: nvidia-dkms-390 (= 390.42-0ubuntu1) … E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt —fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a 14:12
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> Elisa 0.1 release coming soon, oh yea! https://mgallienkde.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/last-weeks-activity-in-elisa-and-release-schedule/14:40
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @nggraham, possibly both. maybe ask on #launchpad14:50
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Photo, 974x609) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/KhXAu8bW/file_5284.jpg Starting to play with this :)15:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @acheronuk, 👍15:01
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> @acheronuk, NICE!!!15:11
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @ahoneybun, Are you using 18.04?  18.04 has a beta version of apt and it seems to struggle with certain packages.  I have used pkcon, dpkg and Discover to untie the knots created by apt.15:34
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I am on 18.0415:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> On one of my 18.04 NVidia systems, I finally gave up are re-installed.15:35
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'd rather not do that lol15:35
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Something wrong with nvidia?15:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> When "apt —fix-missing", "dpkg —configure -a", pkcon, Discover, aptitude and apt-get all fail, a 10 minute re-install and a fast internet  makes for tough competition.15:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> On hybrid laptops, 18.04's NVidia support is not fully baked (known issue, to be fixed soom).15:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> But I also had an issue early on with a non-hybird NVida system.  Seems to be an apt/NVidia combination but I have not had time to chase the specifics.15:45
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tsimonq2qupzilla was removed, falkon is the source package for that now17:24
tsimonq2latte-dock was accepted and has migrated17:24
tsimonq2And falkon has migrated too.17:24
tsimonq2This afternoon I'll look into peruse.17:24
tsimonq2(The Release Team doesn't care about source NEW packages, only further updates to those packages.)17:25
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @ahoneybun @DarinMiller @MichaelTun are you usuing latte-dock, and if so what version?17:40
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I've not installed it.17:40
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> @acheronuk, yes heavily and not sure version17:41
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> right. just want 0.7.4 testing briefly (from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc)17:41
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> checking . . . 0.7.3 right now, not updated it yet to 0.7.417:42
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> I will when I get the time to, maybe tomorrow. prepping for show rn17:42
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> 00.7.4 should be building now17:42
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @MichaelTun, oooh. go do that. wouldn't want to make you late! 😉17:43
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> lol yea thanks. I will be on time today just like every other stream :)17:44
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @MichaelTun, Nah, that's five hours out yet, you have time 😉17:50
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> 😆17:50
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> true :)17:50
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> hahahahahaha17:50
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0VnawbMh/file_5289.jpg18:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No latte-dock here.  Neat project but one extra layer of overhead that does not benefit my workflow as mostly use krunner for launch everything. I would love for sometime to convince me otherwise.19:01
blazehow many virtual desktops do you have? or do you prefer activities?19:03
blazeI have a strong feeling that the majority of KDE people does not use virtual desktops at all19:05
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I always have at minimum eight virtual desktops on any DE I use. If it doesn't support all eight, I don't use it.19:06
blazenow I'm starting to remember that there was some quiz on that topic19:11
IrcsomeBot<nggraham> I actually don't use any virtual desktops or activities19:19
blazethat was my hypothesis19:22
blazeI assume that virtual desktops are making navigation between windows harder, at least in KDE19:23
blazebut the situation can be improved and I have an idea how19:26
IrcsomeBot<nggraham> it't not because I I find their UI awkward or inefficient; I just don't generally find that they fit with with my personal workflow19:29
blazeit's hard to tell if something can benefit your workflow or not until you try19:40
blazeand if it's done in a proper way the chances are higher19:40
IrcsomeBot<nggraham> What makes you think I haven't tried, or that I'm unfamiliar with excellent implementations of the concept? 😉19:42
IrcsomeBot<nggraham> I use macOS at work, and they have a truly wonderful implementation of virtual desktops IMHO. Still, I don't use it, because I don't particularly need it19:43
IrcsomeBot<tomazcanabrava> I separate activities for different projects19:53
IrcsomeBot<tomazcanabrava> But because Firefox / chrome don’t support activities I gave that up19:53
blazemy idea is more about task management with the virtual desktops being involved, but let's stop here19:55
blazewe are really getting offtopic19:55
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @nggraham @tsimonq2 @DarinMiller @MichaelTun valorie @ahoneybun mparillo … 1st iso with a test minimal install list is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20180317.1/23:08
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> amd64 only23:08
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> ack23:08
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> trying to add the list at install time crashed ubiquity, so I pushed it and spun an iso23:09
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTun> @acheronuk, Sweet!23:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Qool23:10

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