[00:04] sigh debian... [00:04] ```Setting up ubports-installer (0.1.11-beta-133) ... … ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/local/bin/ubports-installer': No such file or directory … dpkg: error processing package ubports-installer (--configure): … subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 … Errors were encountered while [00:04] processing: … ubports-installer … E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)``` [00:09] fixed with … `sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin` … `sudo apt install -f` [00:15] looks like linux is doing it [00:19] Ok, so far, so good [00:22] and stuck on google logo [00:25] Dude it will not be easier with the tool provided on the Ubuntu website not [00:26] @carlos machado, ? [00:32] I'm using the tool provided by ubports [00:33] it just didn't install right in my environment and I had to tweak the filesystem [00:46] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/A09qOUT1.png Been like this for quite some time [00:46] @mileskjeller, first boot takes a bit, yeah [00:50] I miss verbose output [00:50] I disable plymouth on systems I set up, haha [01:04]

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it's pretty slow in my country😭 [01:06] @li zhihao, time to send pigeons with USB sticks /s [01:07] Drones may be better... [01:08]

i can't understand what you said😂.My English is poor.. [01:10] @dohbee, Still going... hmm... [01:10] Phone getting rather toasty as well [01:19] did the check the box to wipe it? [01:19] yes [01:19] hmm. [01:20] oh change [01:20] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/kj3GU3Dv.png [01:20] now looks like thia [01:20] [Edit] now looks like this [01:20] @dohbee, as i said i have no idea what it will involve but basically whatever is neccesary to keep scopes alive and to develop it further perhaps if neccesary separate from UTouch untill its ready [01:22] @mileskjeller, checked the log "Update failed" [01:37] 15.x also fails [01:46] @Fuseteam, Anyone is free to do that at any time. The core team, made up mostly of volunteers, is not able to take that on and appropriately maintain the rest of Ubuntu Touch. [01:47] i'm basically asking what needs to be done to do that basically [01:50] @Fuseteam, shipping "scopes" as an add-on thing would be pretty difficult [01:51] for now i'm curious in an effort to keep it alive while not burdening the core team [01:52] the main scopes code is all c++, and there are go, and nodejs "bindings" [01:52] then there's the dash [01:52] and apparmor bits [01:53] Yeah, there's libunuty-scopes which is a particular problem for the 5X [01:54] @UniversalSuperBox, oh? how so? [01:55] I forget. It's been a long day. [02:03] Maybe it segfaulted when the dash tried to load [02:07] hmm [02:08] anyway, not terribly important i guess [02:13] interesting i do know c++ so that should help haha [02:14] it'd probably be better to just let that code sit, and help with other things in the core to make the platform better [02:19] does that mean the code sits somewhere atm separate from utouch? and sure if i can help i would like to do so [02:19] no [02:19] It's in the unity8 code... Somewhere [02:19] well the dash and all the widgets are in unity8 [02:19] xenial branch methinks [02:20] libunity-scopes, go-unityscopes, and the nodejs bits, are other separate repositories [02:21] oh my [02:21] then the actual scopes are yet again other separate things [02:22] And it's all cmake and I don't understand cmake and aaaaaaah [02:22] and then there's a couple other libraries that are used as well [02:22] @UniversalSuperBox, i do. cmake is easy. feel free to ping me for help with it [02:23] Mostly crossbuilding is what I have trouble with [02:23] oh, crossbuilding is weird with everything [02:24] i think there's a wiki page that describes how to do it somewhere [02:24] Since I cant get crossbuilder itself working. I think that's being worked on [02:24] but iirc, we didn't quite get all the packages fixed up to work properly for cross builds [02:24] sounds interesting [02:24] so there's that [02:25] @UniversalSuperBox, i don't know what that is [02:25] I should get a souped up raspberry pi clone with a couple gigs of ram [02:26] Crossbuilder in our github [02:26] Maliit is not cooperating [02:28] anyway, i should probably go to sleep before i end up dropping almost another grand for some ddr4 [03:57] Matt Wu was added by: Matt Wu [04:06] hey guys! is this the channel for ubuntu touch that's being maintained by the ubports group? [04:07] oh, i didn't see the link for the website and yep, this is the place! yay! i've got Ubuntu Touch on my LG Nexus 5 and I LOVE IT!! just need an email app that works with all email providers. [04:24] Welcome [04:25] Try Dekko2 for email but you may need an unreleased version if something doesn't work right [04:38] ubptgbot: hey! i've looked at dekko 2 and i'll give it a try. what do you mean by an unreleased version? [05:03] cool, i've got dekko 2 on my phone now and it works pretty good. i'd just like to see all apps have a way to close them like a window has an 'x' to close it. [05:05] is there a way to get dekko to refresh it's list of emails periodically or on opening? [05:45] Q&A at 19:00 UTC again? [05:46] Never mind. I see Youtube actually shows the time with UTC offset. [05:46] 19:00 it is. [05:46] [Edit] Never mind. I see Youtube actually shows the time with UTC offset to detected local time. [06:54] btw which irc channel is linked to this group? [08:36] Hi guys, are here any app devs? I have a specific question: how about testing apps without a device on Arch Linux (not using unity - I read that it uses many of it's own libs which I would like to avoid)? Any opinions? (maybe I should ask on forum or on telegram group for devs..) [09:01] If you build your app using clickable, you can use `clickable --desktop`. It will set up a Ubuntu Touch docker container and start apps inside there. [09:46] Giorgio P was added by: Giorgio P [09:49] Hi, after having tied Android I'd like to revert my M10 FHD to Ubuntu but upot reboot to bootloader I got the following error: Fastboot: Unknown error: target reported max download size of 1342177 sending 'recovery' (11450 KB)... OKAY [0.436s] writing 'recovery'... FAILED (remote: download for partition 'recovery' is not allowed) [09:49] finished. totasl time 0.439s [09:49] I'm using ubport-installer from debian-stable [09:55] @Giorgio P, Hi Giorgio, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started [10:06] @Marcin Flotyński, Im using clickable on Archlinux and it works great, no need to use Ubuntu [10:21] Oh, ok! That's great to hear! Will try it as soon as I have some free time 😍 [10:40] Feel free to ask if get any problems, but i think its easy to get it working. This weekend i will prepare aur package for clickable (if noneso it will be easier :) [10:40] *if none is available [11:48] Toxity4 was added by: Toxity4 [11:51] @Toxity4, Hi Anon, take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [12:07] @trainailleur, Yes the Ubuntu Touch Q & A broadcast is on and be sure to check the very latest news from the community for that and more at our official News Channel Link: https://t.me/ubports_news [13:09] MetalBiker, slow swipe left gives a concertina view. Swipe apps either up or down to dismiss [13:09] aribk was added by: aribk [13:10] @Fuseteam, UBports on freenode [13:12] @Giorgio P, Sounds like the classic cache full problem. For install issues, better to head to the Welcome & Install room [13:16] In future Februaries and Marchs (why do month name plurals feel so odd to write?) can we flex the start times of the Q&A session around the Six Nations rugby tournament please :P [13:17] Hi. I have an Aquaris E4.5. I downloaded and installed the UBports installer. I booted the device and switched to developer mode and attached it to the computer with a USB cable. The computer (running Ubuntu) recognizes the device. I then started the installer, but it doesn't recognize it. I added the file 51-android.rules to /etc/ude [13:17] v/rules.d/ and ran 'sudo service udev restart '. Still nothing in the installer. I then chose the "select device manually" option. When I got to the dialogue specifying reboot into bootloader, I did this, but nothing happens in the installer. Stalemate! Any tips? [13:22] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTU28QgYHdQ [13:25] @TartanSpartan, Because they are names taken from ancient gods, and not nouns? [13:29] @TartanSpartan, In February or March of future years … [13:30] @aribk, Welcome & Install Room [13:31] Hahaha [13:32] But I expect every member from Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland, France, Italy and supporters from other rugby playing nations to endorse my request. [15:08] @TartanSpartan, As an ardent follower of Les Quinze fe France, I concur. 😉 [15:09] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [15:09] @TartanSpartan, [Edit] As an ardent follower of les XV de France, I concur. 😉 [15:09] We release it as audio and it's immediately available as video after the show. :P [15:10] @UniversalSuperBox, I always download the Youtube video and play it back at high speed. I've only managed to catch one of them live. Perhaps a second one today, we'll see. [15:11] All of you sound much different when I listen to you at normal speed, even though VLC is fairly good at pitch correction. [15:12] Ch'yeah dude but it's kewl to have the live participation. [15:20] I would like to see @neothethird do 2x speed real-time for us today [15:36] What like his namesake from The Matrix movies? [15:42] Hi everybody, does exist any office suite for UBports 15.04 stable? [16:01] @riccardovidotto, open.uappexplorer.com/app/uwp.costales [16:01] Only this. But woks nice [16:02] @riccardovidotto, You can try Libreoffice inside Libertine https://forums.ubports.com/topic/864/libreoffice-on-oneplus-one-how-launch-it/6 [16:04] Libre Office is beautiful especially on a good sized screen. [16:05] ...or with a professional magnifying glass 😆 [16:05] Thank you so much, I'll try on my BQ M10! [16:06] I think it's quite big size :D [16:07] Little #bugreport, screen rotation doesn't work [16:07] There is also Spreadsheet though I thought there was another, new spreadsheet app? [16:09] My mistake. Spreadsheet is the new one, from Jürgen [16:10] Also Tagatuos budget planner [16:20] Is there a telegram channel for unity 8 desktop ? [16:21] There was a suggestion that there should be a new one for a separation between 'development' and 'user' discussion. [16:21] That would be handy [16:22] Alright. So then should we make the current one unity8-general and a new unity-dev? [16:22] ugh [16:22] Oh I know, I know. [16:22] can we not [16:22] You don't even need to put in your vote any more, I always know how it's going to go [16:22] this is the bloody "general" channel [16:22] Indeed [16:39] Is 16.04 devel so unstable? Or can it be used daily? [16:39] [Edit] Is 16.04 devel so unstable? Or can it be used daily? P.S. on BqM10 [16:47] @riccardovidotto, I used it on my BQ M10 and it was so unstable (problem with OpenStore and a less battery life than stable channel), but you could try Anbox [16:51] @iapyghia, Thanks! [16:52] @riccardovidotto, You're welcome [16:55] battery life is very good with 16.04 N4. i get 90hours uptime with wifi on and light usage (basically just testing and tweaking things and upgrading every day to a new devel build). it has new battery installed (Polarcell). i havent tested with mobiledata, yet.. [16:56] i take that to a daily driver when telegram and camera starts to work. [17:43] @Marcin Flotyński, Marcin, are you a Polish speaker? [17:58] Yes, I am ;) [18:00] I saw some 'voting' today about creating separate group for Polish speakers, but decided not to vote, because I don't have opinion as for right now - don't know how big this group(and group of Polish speakers) is and I'm little afraid that there may be too much groups to follow :p [18:02] @Marcin Flotyński, Well if it is a small group then there is also not so much activity [18:02] It's a good point [18:05] Dont underestimate the value of native discussions [18:16] Webtelegram seems to now work in xenial N4. Cool.. 😊 [18:17] It didnt work last week. Strange.. [18:19] @Marcin Flotyński, It is created. I can add you? [18:19] Sure ;) [18:20] When you make a username in Telegram I can 😉 [18:21] Ok it should be set up now : mflotynski [18:21] The experience is very much that language groups make the whole community stronger [18:23] There is also competition. You have already overtaken Scandinavian 😜 [18:43] @iapyghia, Hi! … I have ubports 16.04 on my BQ M10 tablet. How can i try anbox? [18:46] I will not be able to transcribe the #QnA today, so we will need a bunch of people to help us transcribe live! Don't worry, the job is easy and straightforward — you just need to type in words 😜 Also, you will be part of a team where everyone will transcribe just one sub topic and then let the next one write down the next. The [18:46] majority of the time will be making sure nothing important is forgotten and adding it when the line is done, so it's super simple. [18:47] To help out simply contact me or any UBAM member. [18:50] I can't do it this time either but I'll try to help with the translation [18:59] Fwd from UBports News Channel: We are live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2yTrFhVwI [19:00] @mariogrip, Not started yet [19:00] It's on! [19:00] @mariogrip, No.. you are not live [19:00] :) [19:00] reload [19:01] Ok consider you guys lucky, it didn't clash with Wales vs France :P [19:01] oh my [19:02] (Sticker, 512x372) https://irc.ubports.com/OTszEjgk.webp [19:02] Especially if you have apos [19:02] (Sticker, 512x372) https://irc.ubports.com/U8xtO8ci.webp [19:03] Which phone you recommend for 16.04? For best experience? [19:03] I have any :( [19:03] Some apps need recompiling so if your app needs to be recompiled then you should try 16.04 [19:03] "Two phones at the same time, dude. That's that I'd " … do." [19:03] [Edit] I don't have any :( [19:04] @Jyoti, I followed the official docs: … https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html [19:04] Question: why do vpns forget passwords in 16.04? [19:05] @iapyghia, Thank you [19:06] @Jyoti, You're welcome [19:09] Fastly (TM) [19:10] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7 [19:10] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/8 [19:12] @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox yeah, i'd suggest moving features off the "this is 16.04 for everyone milestone," and make it "must haves" only [19:13] oh dalton has network issues today? [19:13] Do I? [19:14] you froze a little bit there [19:14] QUESTION Oneplus5 when? [19:15] Seumas's questions are a restatement of the ones he asked last night with regard to scopes... can we keep them? If it looks bleak, what's the best hope for retaining them? Is there a level of democracy involved in Ubports, specifcally on this issue? @dohbee suggested not, but show notes for a previous Q&A suggest otherwise? (I [19:15] don't much want to kick off debate here in the supergroup, but just have these questions answered in the video for those guys' take). Finally, what would you guys think if people with several devices decided to keep one of them on Vivid to keep scopes and other features which they see being lost for Xenial- was this what you anticipated at any sta [19:15] ge? [19:16] #DaltonSigh "Ok. :) " [19:17] Hahaha this is becoming memetic! We need a BIG BOLD TEXT meme photo ;) [19:18] wait does this mean all the "core devices" will get new features ;) [19:18] so if Qualcomm devices has troubles with Anbox, I hope Gemini PDA won't be affected :) [19:19] @Fuseteam, that was always the plan, generally speaking, yes [19:19] cool [19:22] https://github.com/ubports/kernel_turbo/commit/1052ee919d43e7be1a3c5186fa9fd700d3f40307 [19:23] @NotKit Gemini PDA is Mediatek SoC IIRC [19:23] it is [19:24] xiao cesc was added by: xiao cesc [19:24] "Mir moves on" - I surely like this as Russian [19:25] Cycle hasn't ended, 16.04 is still supported for another three years and praise be for that. [19:25] When will development start on 20.04? 😜 [19:26] @trainailleur, 2021 :P [19:28]