=== tfgbd__ is now known as tfgbd_ [02:11] is the telemetry stuff turned on in the beta? where do i find that setting to turn it off [02:11] i didnt see anything during the install process. [02:12] Auctus: If it's not in the install process, it's not there. [02:12] I don't think they've implemented it quite yet. [02:28] how do i make alt-tabbing normal; i only have firefox open, but it wont switch between windows, i gotta bring up some annoying sub-menu [02:33] theres like a delay before that sub-menu opens up [02:35] is there also no longer a way to change the # of workspaces in the settings? do i have to install some tweak tool or something to do that? [02:39] apparently i should be pressing "super" and then using arrow keys to navigate between open windows [02:40] thats still slower? [03:00] Auctus: I use the keyboard short cut .. wayland --- and it it much faster to switch work spaces . [03:39] so apparently when you fill up your last workspace, a new workspace is created below it, neat [04:19] Auctus: My ecperience is that once the 1st work space is active, the 2nd becomes available . ( wayland ) [07:42] Hrrm. how long does it take or a package agreed, in the package builder "PROPOSED" etc to then appear in bionic archive and packages.ubuntu.com ?? [07:43] e2fsprogs supposedly updated "fix released" for bionic [07:43] build system built it for bionic PROPOSED, no prbolmes days ago [07:43] what happens to push it through? [08:04] auto-testing-'magic' ?? [08:13] enyc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [08:14] publishing history shows it got through a short while ago: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/1.44.0-1/+publishinghistory [08:14] then it's up to mirrors [08:15] acheronuk: how/when does packages.ubuntu.com update? [08:17] presumably a cron job somewhere. if so, I don't know the timing/frequency [08:17] hrrm, and i wonder if it reads some master database, or just 'looks at' packages rom mirrors/main-archive/etc [08:17] * acheronuk shrugs [08:18] acheronuk: thankyou =) [09:26] !proposed [09:26] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [10:04] i have ubuntu 16.04 installation and i installed the 18.04 beta on same drive and it seems the efi bootloaders are writing now over each other so i can use either 16.04 or 18.04 but can't have them side by side and choosable from bios [10:07] lotuspsychje: morning :) [10:13] hey flocculant [11:23] Xard: i wondered if that sort of thing would tend to happen... I'm not yet EFI general user so don't know correct solution. [11:23] Xard: i'm guessing something can be changed in the older-ubuntu to change boot entry names [11:23] Xard: separate-disks, or "virtualization" tend to be easier fwiw [11:24] Hrrrrm... Wondering.... [11:24] is 'btrfs-progs' (now in main) going to be default in most installs now [i'd reccomend it was available/supported...] [11:24] [for that matter, can you install with root on btrfs] [11:25] ALSO -- does the default desktop install, handle gracefull, discovering an 'exfat' filesystem? -- Will it do something sensible to help user get 'exfat-utils' 'exfat-fuse' installed??? [12:24] enyc: i can boot to older kernels from the efi menu and then recapture the efi boot from the booted system with "grub-install /dev/sdX" where x is the drive letter [12:24] fedora seems to do this with each release as separate efi entry so they don't have this issue while ubuntu is just "ubuntu" [12:29] Xard: yes quite, have you looked for ubunut-bugs? discussed with devs? [12:31] Xard: if you've got a really well worded example bug iwth good non-intrusive low-regression-risk solution in there, i can try to rais it with devs in a hurry for bionic [12:31] Xard: have got another issue ssorted myself... [12:32] it just feels weird and overlooked problem espicially considering that testing beta releases on real hardware is quite important [12:32] Xard: quite, Look in launchpad.net bug search [12:32] and it feels more like "feature" than bug [12:32] Xard: but still annoying and unnecessary [12:33] Xard: please, check, write a good bug along with sogugsed solution if there isn't one, give example of HOW i works in fedora/whatever [12:33] i'm doing some checks/regression/etc on a different, e2fprogs mess ;p [12:33] well, what this efi boot loader is even called since using proper term would probably help [12:34] Xard: 'grub-efi' probably [12:34] Xard: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep grub" (or grep efi) might give you a clue [12:35] probably "grub-efi-amd64"...? [12:35] seems very likely [12:35] okay, thanks [12:35] Xard: launchpad bug search will let you see all bugs in that package [12:36] i'm not really that familiar with efi as i've used always the legacy mbr option on previous hardware [12:38] one quite peculiar thing was that the 18.04 beta installer didn't even warn me about not mounting /boot/efi during the installation so i had to manually install grub-efi-amd64 and drive the "grub-install" from 18.04 beta [12:38] and setup /boot/efi to fstab of course [12:38] Xard: check for a bug on that too [12:38] Xard: when you have bug report numbers (even if you create them yourself) i may help look at them and point devs [12:39] if recall right 16.04 installer didn't let you continue and warned of the missing efi partition [12:39] check your facts, report bug [12:40] okay, thanks for the information and i'll look into it bit later as i have some running matters to deal with now... [15:58] * enyc tests an install with btrfs-root ;p === knitt1 is now known as knittl === pepee- is now known as pepee [21:38] Hi, Checking out 18.04 beta and realized that I cant find how to enable DTS/AC3 passthrough in pavcontrol anymore. Has this feature been moved or am I missing something?