| bluesabre | Unit193: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging I have no idea what I'm doing | 01:06 |
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| Unit193 | bluesabre: OK, so how can I assist? | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | Is there a primer for git-dpm somewhere? | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | I cloned the menulibre git packaging repo | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | and then ran "git-dpm import-new-upstream --ptc --rebase-patched ../../../Code/release/menulibre/dist/menulibre_2.2.0.orig.tar.gz" | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | and nothing happened | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | and I'm confused | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | Well it linked to https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit/GitDpm | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | I've never used dpm specifically, just gbp or gbp/pq. | 01:11 |
| bluesabre | Somehow missed that | 01:11 |
| bluesabre | oh | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | gbp import-dsc/import-orig look handy | 01:13 |
| flocculant | bluesabre - what is our plan if we get no movement on the bluetooth thing before release? | 10:28 |
| flocculant | ochosi: bug 1756187 | 10:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1756187 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Some icon themes have missing icons due to missing fallback setting." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756187 | 10:48 |
| flocculant | ali1234 sees that issue - I can't confirm it, but I've got the team and shimmer ppa - I assume something in them fixes the issue? | 10:49 |
| flocculant | ali1234: confirmed the ristretto and icon cache bug | 10:49 |
| flocculant | added all 3 to bluesabre's omg list | 10:49 |
| ali1234 | you wont see missing icons unless you are using a different icon theme | 10:50 |
| ali1234 | you also wont see it if you have adwaita-icon-theme-full installed as that provides them | 10:50 |
| flocculant | ali1234: re the installer - using Install option doesn't show the welcome page as you said - not sure if that's expected - nor how long it's not been there - maybe report it against ubiquity | 10:50 |
| ali1234 | unless you use an icon theme that doesn't inherit adwaita | 10:50 |
| flocculant | ali1234: don't have adwaita-icon-theme-full | 10:51 |
| flocculant | and I'd obviously set icons to what you said in the bug | 10:52 |
| flocculant | however - I do appear to have another icon missing from my panel now | 10:52 |
| ali1234 | try running this script http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fqHNcfJ39S/ | 10:53 |
| ali1234 | it will tell you what is providing the icon | 10:53 |
| flocculant | hang on | 10:53 |
| ali1234 | but it uses gtk3 so it has the gnome theme hard coded | 10:53 |
| ali1234 | also icons can sometimes be cached in weird ways | 10:54 |
| flocculant | ok - confirmed that bug too now | 10:56 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: not sure quite yet... we'll just have to get some movement | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | we'll try blacklisting the plugin, fixing the bug ourselves, or swapping to gnome-bluetooth somehow | 12:18 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ha ha - might be easier for you to get movement than me - being a bit of a whippersnapper :D | 12:25 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:30 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: your kids can carry you | 12:30 |
| bluesabre | put them to work :D | 12:30 |
| flocculant | lol | 12:31 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r670 * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsett... (by Sean Davis) | 12:47 | |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r671 UNRELEASED (by Sean Davis) | 12:47 | |
| bluesabre | flocculant: added the notification to the panel in -settings, should show on next upload/iso | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | * notification plugin | 12:58 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ack | 13:08 |
| bluesabre | uploaded, so that will land later today | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | also includes several fixes for willem and ali1234 :) | 13:09 |
| flocculant | :) | 13:11 |
| willem | willem says thanks | 13:25 |
| willem | :-) | 13:25 |
| willem | I take it's the menulibre issue (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1754888)? | 13:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1754888 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Menulibre: invalid desktop files detected!" [Undecided,New] | 13:27 |
| willem | I'll test when it's installed | 13:28 |
| bluesabre | willem: yeah, this upload resolves most of those, and the menulibre upload sometime soon will take care of vim | 13:28 |
| bluesabre | (pending debian sponsor, upload, and sync) | 13:28 |
| willem | Doesn't matter if it takes some time: I should be practising piano, not playing around with my computer, really. | 13:33 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r672 * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel/default.xml:... (by Sean Davis) | 13:50 | |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r673 Release 18.04.4 (by Sean Davis) | 13:50 | |
| flocculant | bluesabre: parole and play button not working issue? had any thoughts on that? | 13:53 |
| flocculant | apart from the obvious one ;) | 13:53 |
| willem | Just a quick question if I may: In a VM I'm testing installing bionic over an existing install. When I do, I get the question if I want to upgrade Bionic Beaver to Xubuntu 18.04 LTS. | 13:54 |
| willem | Is that expected? | 13:54 |
| flocculant | it is indeed | 13:54 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: first thought... maybe parole is trying to protect us from an overabundance of media consumption | 13:55 |
| bluesabre | second thought... just need to sit down and fix that bug :) | 13:55 |
| flocculant | that's not my obvious one :D | 13:56 |
| willem | flocculant, thanks, will proceed | 13:56 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: need anything from me? or do you see it too? | 13:56 |
| flocculant | willem: yw | 13:57 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: want to add it to the bug bp? | 13:57 |
| flocculant | oh | 13:58 |
| flocculant | I thought I had lol | 13:58 |
| flocculant | yep - will do | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | thx | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | I'll let you know if I need more details | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | cleaning up the apartment a bit, and then might be out for a few hours | 13:59 |
| flocculant | done | 13:59 |
| flocculant | oh good boy :D | 13:59 |
| * flocculant did that earlier | 13:59 | |
| bluesabre | thanks flocculant | 14:00 |
| flocculant | np - have fun ;) | 14:01 |
| willem | off to elsewhere for the rest of the day | 15:12 |
| willem | just noticed I've got 2 network icons in the top panel. http://i.imgur.com/HWSkMOx.png | 15:13 |
| willem | I haven't seen that before. Can it be related to the latest update, do you think? | 15:14 |
| willem | Both icons are behaving normally | 15:15 |
| willem | if you click on them, I mean | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | looks like one indicator and one systray | 19:25 |
| ochosi | or sn-plugin and indicator-plugin are misconfigured maybe? | 19:27 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-March/017946.html | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | flocculant: more bugs: bug 1756608 | 22:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1756608 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Applications Menu plugin clips panel icon." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756608 | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | bug 1756612 | 22:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1756612 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Launch and Directory Menu items icons are too small" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756612 | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | bug 1756614 | 22:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1756614 in xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin (Ubuntu) "Status Notifier draws some icons at the wrong size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756614 | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | also i notice that we now have three different indicator/notifier areas and indicators seem to be able to show up in any of them at random | 22:28 |
| ochosi | ali1234: hmm, that last part is a little troubling. i thought in indicator-plugin you can blacklist indicator-application so "normal" app indicators would never show up there..? | 23:23 |
| ochosi | at least indicator-plugin and sn-plugin shouldn't conflict (in theory..?) | 23:23 |
| ochosi | the trayicon part is a bit problematic, not even sure if we can prevent that (other than dropping it by default) | 23:23 |
| ali1234 | that probably explains why half of indicators dont work with it | 23:24 |
| ali1234 | i would like to disable sn-plugin and use indicator-application to display appindicators, because it renders them properly and sn-plugin doesn't | 23:25 |
| ochosi | sn-plugin *only* handles app indicators | 23:26 |
| ali1234 | yes | 23:26 |
| ali1234 | it had one job... | 23:26 |
| ochosi | and doesn't handle anything else, for the rest that would have to be xfce4-indicator-plugin | 23:26 |
| ali1234 | right, i want to use that | 23:26 |
| ochosi | and the whole icon problem: | 23:26 |
| ochosi | indicators in ubuntu-land don't support symbolic icons | 23:26 |
| ochosi | they never cared enough | 23:27 |
| ochosi | which would solve the monochrome issues you're seeing nicely | 23:27 |
| ali1234 | it works correctly in xfce4-indicator-plugin | 23:27 |
| ochosi | i'd say "correctly" | 23:27 |
| ali1234 | and it also works correctly when sn-plugin is disabled and the indicator gets drawn in the systray instead | 23:27 |
| ali1234 | correctly as in it doesn't look awful :( | 23:27 |
| ochosi | cause currently it's a very heuristic approach that icon themes have to take | 23:27 |
| ochosi | certain icons have colorful and monochrome variants | 23:28 |
| ochosi | and depending on the size of the icon you get either monochrome or colorful | 23:28 |
| ali1234 | i assume that is why both indicator-plugin and sn-plugin have that "symbolic" checkbox | 23:28 |
| ali1234 | but that doesn't actually do anything at all in either | 23:28 |
| ochosi | and i think ubuntu's indicators were at some point fixed to 22px (if they aren't still) for that reason | 23:28 |
| ali1234 | yeah... ignore the size stuff | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | i was wrong about that | 23:29 |
| ochosi | i think with the symbolic checkbox (which is only in sn-plugin, right?) it tries to just append a "-symbolic" at the end of the icon name | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | no, it is in both | 23:29 |
| ochosi | and if the icon exists in the theme, it *will* be drawn symbolically | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | okay but the problem is it always uses the light version | 23:30 |
| ochosi | i think i may not have the latest version | 23:30 |
| ochosi | then the context for the icon is wrong and it gets the panel's bg color incorrectly | 23:30 |
| ochosi | context == gtkstylecontext | 23:30 |
| ochosi | ninetls: ^ | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | i dont know what that means... | 23:31 |
| ochosi | no worries | 23:31 |
| ochosi | but it could be the source of the problem | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | also why does notification area have this option "draw frame"? | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | and why is it switched on by default? | 23:32 |
| ochosi | is it? | 23:33 |
| ochosi | it should be disabled | 23:33 |
| ochosi | it's a legacy option | 23:33 |
| ochosi | has always been there | 23:33 |
| ali1234 | i'l check again next time i reinstall and bug report it | 23:34 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: also by default sn-plugin is not on the panel, which means all appindicators end up in the tray, which has the frame, is that intentional? | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | i didn't even know it was possible for appindicators to go in the systray... and while debugging things i've somehow broken it and they won't go in there any more if i remove sn-plugin | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | oh wait a minute | 23:40 |
| ali1234 | i'm not using the default panel layout... | 23:40 |
| ali1234 | ignore all that | 23:40 |
| ochosi | lol | 23:41 |
| ochosi | no worries | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | okay made new account... | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | aaaaah | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | the frame is off by default | 23:44 |
| ochosi | ok, would have been quite a surprise to me had it been otherwise | 23:45 |
| ochosi | but i presume the icon color issue remains | 23:45 |
| ochosi | guess i'll have to debug that soonish | 23:45 |
| ochosi | btw, the only icon theme relevant for our testing will be elementary-xfce | 23:45 |
| ochosi | humanity and i guess ubuntu-mono are in terrible shape | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | well, i don't test things i don't use | 23:46 |
| ali1234 | hmm... the default session has two clocks now | 23:49 |
| ali1234 | but that might be something i installed | 23:49 |
| ochosi | sounds a bit like datetime indicator? | 23:52 |
| ochosi | or datetime plugin and clock plugin in the panel | 23:52 |
| ochosi | anyway, i'll try to take a look at a clean bionic session soonish | 23:53 |
| ochosi | (i.e. before UIF ;)) | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | yes, it is | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | it's cos i installed all the indiactors | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | i have two batteries as well | 23:54 |
| ochosi | mhm | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | also blueman is in indicator-plugin now | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | in my other session it's in sn-plugin and wont go into indicator- | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | and prior to that it was in the systray | 23:55 |
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