 @AmolithSeregion, Two options: Use opentopomap.org for tiles
 Which is a topographic map but keeps decent city maps too
 Or use Gmapcatcher to patiently scroll through the map you want in all levels
 Oh or third: Use Maperitive to render your own tiles from OSMs data
 I'll look into all three of those! Thank you!
[02:40] <ubptgbot> ahmadhsalim was added by: ahmadhsalim
 @urielc, ohw didn't know that
 Hi, I just tried windows ubports-installer.0.1.12-beta.exe and it still has the "adb push error".  I looked in the log and it is still trying to push a file from the computer with a forward slash in the path/file name.  "...\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\pool/ubports-e5c..." and "Command failed: adb -P 5038 shell stat -t /cache/recovery/
[04:55] <ubptgbot> /ubports-e5cf0885....'
 @nick check your PM
[06:26] <ubptgbot> AmandeepSinghMatharu was added by: AmandeepSinghMatharu
 Welcome @Waldbursche, @ahmadhsalim and @AmandeepSinghMatharu! Get the most important information here: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[07:58] <fuseteam> morning
 I have a problem with one of my devices, sshd is not running. In the device where it is running if I enter "ps -ef | grep ssh" I see: … root     21335     1  0 08:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D -o PasswordAuthentication=no … plus some other staff, in the  other one no process is running. I have issued "sudo android-gadget-ser
[08:50] <ubptgbot> vice enable ssh" in the affected device, I have a 4-digit passcode, and I have done everything I think need to be done, but the ssh process seems to not be running. It is an OPO with 15.04 stable branch.
 [Edit] I have a problem with one of my devices, sshd is not running. In the device where it is running if I enter "ps -ef | grep ssh" I see: … root     21335     1  0 08:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D -o PasswordAuthentication=no … plus some other staff, in the  other one no process is running. I have issued "sudo android-gad
[08:51] <ubptgbot> get-service enable ssh" in the affected device, I have a 4-digit passcode, and I have done everything I think needs to be done, but the ssh process seems to not be running. It is an OPO with 15.04 stable branch.
 [Edit] I have a problem with one of my devices, sshd is not running. In the device where it is running if I enter "ps -ef | grep ssh" I see: … root     21335     1  0 08:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D -o PasswordAuthentication=no … plus some other staff, in the  other one no process is running. I have issued "sudo android-gad
[08:52] <ubptgbot> get-service enable ssh" in the affected device, I have a 4-digit passcode, and I have done everything I think needs to be done, but the ssh process seems to not to be running. It is an OPO with 15.04 stable branch.
 @wagafo, try … ```sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start```
 @TronFortyTwo, I get: … start: Job is already running: ssh … but "ps -ef | grep ssh" shows only this grep
 OK, I managed to solve it. The culprit was that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config , there was a line where it said "PermitRootLogin prohibit-password". In a working device,  I had "PermitRootLogin without-password". Changin this line to this last version, and restarting "sshd", starting showiing this process as running, and I could ssh into th
[09:23] <ubptgbot> e device. How this line was changed is a mistery to me. Maybe because I first installed 16.04 to try and then I switched back to 15.04.
 [Edit] OK, I managed to solve it. The culprit was that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config , there was a line where it said "PermitRootLogin prohibit-password". In a working device,  I had "PermitRootLogin without-password". Changing this line to this last version, and restarting "sshd", starting showiing this process as running, and I could ssh
[09:23] <ubptgbot>  into the device. How this line was changed is a mistery to me. Maybe because I first installed 16.04 to try and then I switched back to 15.04.
 [Edit] OK, I managed to solve it. The culprit was that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config , there was a line where it said "PermitRootLogin prohibit-password". In a working device,  I had "PermitRootLogin without-password". Changing this line to this last version, and restarting "sshd", and it started showing this process as running, and I coul
[09:23] <ubptgbot> d ssh into the device. How this line was changed is a mistery to me. Maybe because I first installed 16.04 to try and then I switched back to 15.04.
 @wagafo, 👍
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 sup @Bunueloco
 :)
 @Bunueloco, Hi Bunueloco, welcome, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
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[15:53] <ubptgbot> Stan was added by: Stan
 Good evening Ubports Supergroup, Do you know if the One Plus One E1003 phone is compatible with Ubuntu Touch Ubports ?
 @Stan, E1003 is the Asia/EU version, it shouldn't be a problem installing UBports https://ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/get-ut
 RR-Loup RR-Loup & Stan take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[16:24] <ubptgbot> flakkv was added by: flakkv
 @flakkv, Hello Ayman. To learn about UBports, have a look here … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 FYI I spot an M10 FHD on an eBay search, the price is something like 207 GBP so not too bad. Would be tempted but I have an M10 HD and two phones so the only thing for me would be to try out Anbox, and really I can do that on a desktop Ubuntu machine.
 Actually it is slightly ambiguous as the description states "16+2" implying the 16GB HD edition, but the colour and description suggest otherwise so worth getting a firm idea on.
 This seems to be a Spanish seller so best for Europeans.
 A quantity of 6 are going, this I like.
 @TartanSpartan, why can't you try anbox on your current m10?
 I value it too much with stable Vivid, looking at Xenial on my MX4 it wouldn't be able to do enough that I want while unstable.
 Confused though:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/XCJVmKH3.png
 II thought FHD had 32GB?
 *I
 And never knew there was a 4G version. I guess that doesn't have a Ubuntu Touch port (yet?).
 no idea about 4g
 afaik only difference between HD and FHD is the screen
 Hope someone can clarify that 100%.
 Wow 4G can rock 256GB micro SD cards.
 HTC10 claims to support up to 2TB SD card
 The way UT handles image, music and video media though, that wouldn't help much amirite? It seems that you need at least as much storage for each MP3, each MKV etc. on the tablet as on the card, at least if you want that media in regular rotation.
 well there definitely needs to be some work in ut for handling external storage and such, but it's certainly doable work
 Preach.
 I guess if in the future Ubports make a port for the 4G version with 32GB (16GB is a sore spot for me and probably always will be) I would have to strongly consider that upgrade.
 Any prospects there @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox @Flohack
 Probably not
 What were we talking about again? I just got pinged out of the blue.
 Resourcing issues?
 i guess nobody has one
 Making a port for the M10 FHD 4G version.
 Oh then I was right. Probably not
 Let's do a community donation for Marius :)
 Having "a device" does not mean a port will happen
 And if the demand is from one person... ;)
 Architecture is similarish albeit 8-core rather than 4 and clocked slightly lower (hmmm).
 Maybe (hopefully) others will echo the request.
 @TartanSpartan, i think someone needs to echo the port
 ie, step up and do the work
 It does make sense from a "we need more tablets for our OS" perspective unless you want to go for more modern hardware.
[19:26] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Sounds like we have a volunteet
[19:26] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Volunteer*
 I can't do ports brah :P
 Not at this stage of my budding programmer/sysadmin career.
[19:27] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Its easy, just follow the guide, getting it to work is the trick
 Would be too worried about a brick and ruining my financial outlay, Marius on the other hand is a verified wizard (meme it people).
 Well
 You won't brick it
 Especially since you have SP Flash Tool to fall back on
 I'd be more concerned about the sources being available to work on first.
 The Halium docs are pretty nice (I wrote them so I'm biased), check out docs.halium.org to get started.
 Anyone knows if the gallery application takes long time to open (close to 1min) only on bq because of hardware or is general for all devices?
 Apollogies if already discussed...
 @Marcos, how many items in gallery?
 Rodney, a lot...
 If I was even to attempt this, I'd need the hardware first, I didn't know it existed until tonight (guess I conflated it's 32GB characteristic with the WiFi only FHD) and not sure that I've seen it on eBay before.
[19:56] <ubptgbot> stupendousredman was added by: stupendousredman
 @Marcos, i think that's why it's probably slow. there needs to be some performance work on all the apps, really. there were plans for that before canonical dropped it all
 alas, there's not really anyone working on that any more
 so what was the plan to that? any technical stuffs that needs to be done...at least high level information as I'm not too knowledgeable :P
 because obviously it's one of the weaknesses of UT...app performance
 Tks Rodney
 @Javacookies, i don't know if there was an exact plan formulated. there was some work to get profiling data for qml, but i don't know if any of that was documented and analyzed anywhere
 I want to install ubports on my OnePlus One but I have only MAC OS X 10.7.5 laptop. Is there no ubports installer file .dmg for 10.7.5?
 there is a .dmg, i don't know why it wouldn't work on 10.7.5 (how old is that anyway)?
 uh
 5 years old
 Why such an old version?
 old macbook pro which can't go beyond 10.7.5
 i feel old too but my oneplus one is newer...
 Simply use your frds laptop for installation of ubports in your device
 If u can't install in your laptop
 @stupendousredman, you can download Ubuntu 16.04 ISO, and boot that to "Try Ubuntu" and install that way perhaps then
 @Lyokanthrope, eh, not so old. my xps13 is 4.5 years old, and still works just fine (i do run ubuntu on it though)
 @dohbee, I was more referring to the macOS version
 don't know why a macbook couldn't run newer OSX though
 because apple are dicks
 no name calling please
 Bsc ubports-installer is not payed application
 @Lyokanthrope, N9
 😜
 they used to ship macbook pros with a 32-bit EFI and decided that starting with 10.8 they weren't going to allow upgrades for those older machines (even though it works fine if you modify the installer)
 ok
 Hello. Sorry for repeating the quatrain, but ... … I installed anbox on ubports 1604. How can i install android apps? The adb install command does not work
 so instead of name calling and such, maybe take the discussion to OT and help Nicholas upgrade to newer version then :)
 Anbox only installe 32 bit app
 If u try to install 64 bit ap than it could not installe
 Eh, an ubuntu live image would be easier to use than modifying a newer macos installer
 Ok. But wich is the way to install? Adb co.mand?
 @Vijaypraj, it doesn't work at all right now to install apps in anbox on ut with adb
 @Jyoti, Abd install app.apk
 @Jyoti, [Edit] Adb install app.apk
 @Vijaypraj, Should the terminal first be open at the window were the apk is? Or just open the terminal app and write the command?
 @Vijaypraj, it does not work
 @Jyoti, no
 I ask because i tried adb install apk.apk and did nothing
 How can i open the terminal from inside a specific folder. With my lubuntu right click and there is an option. But on tablet there is not...
 Cd folder name
 @Vijaypraj, please stop.
 @Jyoti, you wouldn't run adb on the tablet.
 also adb is not installed on the tablet
 Ok
[20:48] <ubptgbot> MTeef was added by: MTeef
 Ok. Thanks. So, is better wait developments?
 yes
 @dohbee, Name calling?? Now this is something I can do! Who needs help. Just point me to the victim
 I installed anbox but i can wait for a more secure way to install apps
 @wayneoutthere, he's in your bathroom mirror
 @dohbee, But you can install
 @Vijaypraj, and it still doesn't work
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/KtigoAt6.png
 anbox does not appear in the devices list
 Bsc i doesn't installe
 I just saw you adb can be work in ubports
 You say that you can not install adb in ubports
 Some good advice here...perhaps I should replace OS X 10.7.5 with Ubuntu, or even Debian, and try to achieve convergence nirvana on my MacBook Pro and OnePlus One...Sounds odd doesn't it? 😂
 @Vijaypraj, no, i'm telling you it does not work
 we had this discussion the other day
 👍
 @Vijaypraj, i didn't say you couldn't. i said there is no reason to, really
 Ol
 [Edit] Ok
 @dohbee, I also try for do some work in ubports but not work but after making image writeable than i do all work that work in Ubuntu pc like apt upgrade, apt install
 @Vijaypraj, you should not do that
 Hmmm
 Why?
 the rotofs is shipped readonly for a reason. you can fill up the partition pretty quickly and your changes will likely get overwritten at some point by an update
 Hmmm
 Yes
 if you want to install legacy apps, that's what libertine is for
 I installed python in ubports for practice
 I installed libertine but did not find libreoffice
 And i like to work new work and learn new things
 And i know what am i doing
 @Jyoti, what do you mean? liberetine is already installed. you have to create a container and then install libreoffice inside the container
 Witch legacy apps are in openstore? I did not find any...
 you don't magically get it by installing the scope
 @Jyoti, none of them are
 if they were in open store they wouldn't be legacy apps
 libertine is some tooling that integrates management of a chroot for installing legacy things with apt inside said chroot
 I have the libertice container (X Desktop Apps)  installed
 and then when you install them, they will appear in the app drawer, or libertine scope
 @Jyoti, that is not a container. that is a scope that shows you what x apps are installed in your containers
 it's detailed in the documentation on the web site
 @dohbee, I also installed librenet container and i install Firefox browser but it not opening
 What should i have to do
 @Vijaypraj, that's great, but i'd still suggest doing such things in a chroot instead. and it's best to avoid advising others to make the rootfs writable and install things with apt, unless absolutely necessary
 it makes it very hard for us to support them later when they break things
 But, if i remember  when i had the canonical ubuntu touch installed i installed libreofice from ubuntu store, i gess
 @Vijaypraj, what device?
 @dohbee, Ok but i only use to learning system
 @dohbee, N5
 @Jyoti, no, but the m10 retail devices shipped with a pre-installed container that had firefox and libreoffice installed already
 @Jyoti, No, there's the capability to *read* LO documents with the Document Viewer
 ubports does not have that
 Is that what you meant?
 @dohbee, Yes, was like that
 @Vijaypraj, yes, libertine does not work well for x apps on the n5 right now. it's a known issue. but you can use it as a chroot for running cli apps and doing python dev stuff in, still
 Ok
 I will try
 Witch legacy app can i install on libertine
 I am using ubports 1604
 @Jyoti, any that are available in 16.04, though they all do not work well
 i'm also not sure what current status of libertine is on 16.04
 but you can run `libertine-container-manager create -i xenial` in terminal app to create a xenial container
 or well, you should be able to
 How can i have a list of available legacy app on 16.04?
 Apps
 @Jyoti, there is no list of what all is available and working. you can install anything that is available in Ubuntu 16.04 for armhf architecture
 @dohbee, I will write this command
 actually in 16.04, i think there is a libertine option in system settings
 you should be able to manage containers from there too i think
 Ok, so is not necessary to write the command?
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 @Jyoti, not if the gui is in system settings and working
 Ok. I will have a look
 @dohbee, Did not find it in system settings
 ok
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/ZEwW7OvS.png
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/fFZPt40j.png
 i said ok
 :-) thanks
 then yes, you'll have to use the command line
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/FmmpLnFU.png My installed ubport & anbox apps
 (Video, 3s) https://irc.ubports.com/CmYrJxyk.mp4
 you did not run the command as specified, and it tells you exactly what is wrong
 anyway, i've got to go
 Is it possible to install and run packages meant for desktop Ubuntu?
 @Revolvo, install yes, run maybe. But did you think about the screen resolution 😆
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/u6CgX4Mn.png
 @Flohack, Can't I just rotate the screen through settings somewhere?
 command line tools can do a fair jon often, but still not all
 @Revolvo, Thats not the point but desktop apps will be veeery tiny. And you will not be able to use them with your finger. Thats called not touch-optimized. In general its a pain, a bit better on the tablets, but still
 Its like having a webpage that has no mobile version. But also this time you got no zoom
 it's horrible
 @Flohack, Eh, despite that I've connected a keyboard and mouse to my Android device through USB OTG and used Debian nornally through Linux Deploy chroot and XServer XSDL but I had to loeer the resolution a bit.
 Sorry for typos, I'm on my phone
 (Photo, 530x942) https://irc.ubports.com/0qXQkHOH.png That would be a console resolution and text. Hard for operation ;)
 @Revolvo, Well yes you can connect bluetooth keyboard and mouse of course
 but still you need a magnifying glass
 or a device you can connect to s acreen
 Which version of OpenVPN does UT use?
 The one in the version of Ubuntu you're on
 So whatever was in 15.04 for stable
 How would I go about finding that out? I tried `openvn --version` and the output was very weird
 @dohbee, How would I go about finding that out? I tried openvn —version and the output was very weird
 `dpkg -l openvpn`
 @dohbee, 2.3.2 … Thank you!