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ricotzchrisccoulson, hi, if the rustc 1.24.1 backports are ready then please move them to rust-next ppa for ff6007:09
didrocksgood morning07:14
tsimonq2o/07:15
didrocksandyrock: it seems you didn't push your changes yet, did you?07:27
jibelSalut didrocks07:28
dufluMorning didrocks, tsimonq2, jibel07:28
duflu, world07:28
tsimonq2o/ duflu07:28
tsimonq2o/ jibel07:29
jibelHi everyone07:31
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:32
dufluMorning oSoMoN07:34
tsimonq2o/ oSoMoN07:34
oSoMoNhey duflu, tsimonq207:43
tsimonq2Can someone please review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-release-upgrader/port-away-from-kdesudo/+merge/34155507:52
tsimonq2I'd like to have kdesudo removed sooner rather than later. :)07:52
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willcookehoy08:50
didrockshey willcooke08:55
oSoMoNhey willcooke, salut didrocks08:56
oSoMoNlatest snapd (2.32+18.04~pre5) on bionic appears broken, is it just me?08:57
willcookeoSoMoN, not launching some apps?08:57
oSoMoNall snaps are marked "broken" after dist-upgrading, then after a reboot they are fine again but they don't launch08:57
willcookeoSoMoN, I /think/ z_yga is already on the case08:58
willcookeoSoMoN, I saw them talking about it on the Canonical IRC server earlier08:58
didrockshey oSoMoN09:00
oSoMoNwillcooke, indeed, zyga just confirmed on #snappy09:01
zygawe got multiple reports09:01
zygaand I think I know what the problem might be09:02
zygachecking now09:02
oSoMoNthanks09:02
oSoMoNzyga, if I can provide info, let me know09:02
zygaI'm trying to reproduce the right way now09:02
zygamvo: hey, aound?09:03
zygamvo: when are we pushing the next build of snapd to bionic09:04
Laneyoh oops, hi09:04
oSoMoNhey Laney09:04
Laneyhey oSoMoN, what's the haps09:04
dufluHi willcooke, Laney, and wider world09:04
mvozyga: hello09:08
mvozyga: 2.32~pre5 hit bionic yesterday09:08
didrockshey hey Laney09:08
mvozyga: what are you looking for?09:09
oSoMoNLaney, it's been raining all night and I've spotted a minor water infiltration, otherwise good09:09
oSoMoNyou?09:09
zygamvo: re, sorry I had to poke around and I couldn't run irc09:10
zygamvo: so, bionic is very much broken with the stable core snap now09:10
zygamvo: because of the rename of snappy-app-dev09:10
zygamvo: and because the core snap doesn't have that yet09:10
zygamvo: we run that program on the inside of the namespace and it's just not present09:10
zygamvo: and the stable core snap doesn't ship any symlinks (in either direction)09:11
zygamvo: most snaps just don't start09:11
LaneyoSoMoN: :(09:12
LaneyI'm alright yeah - first day of spring!09:12
oSoMoNtrue!09:13
zygamvo: we should either fast track a stable core that has one more copy of snappy-app-dev09:14
zygamvo: or upload a new build to bionic that uses the conservative, pre-rename path09:14
Laneyhey duflu & didrocks too09:15
tjaaltonI'd like to update wayland to 1.15rc, because libwayland-egl got moved there from mesa09:16
mvozyga: ok, I think we need to upload a new snapd that checks both paths09:17
zygayes09:17
zygathat's less disruptive09:17
zygamvo: as a simple way to reproduce09:17
zygamvo: switch to stable core09:17
zygamvo: and update 18.04 all the way09:17
mvozyga: I will fix it now09:17
zygamvo: and run non-hello world snap09:17
mvozyga: I am on bionic already09:17
zygamvo: right, my point was that you need to be on ~pre5 package09:17
mvozyga: thanks, yeah09:19
oSoMoNmvo, what's the ETA for that updated snapd in bionic?09:21
mvooSoMoN: a couple of hours, publisher run + autopkgtest09:22
oSoMoNmvo, cool, thanks09:22
mvooSoMoN: plus the actual fix (but that should be quick)09:22
oSoMoNI think I'm going to downgrade until then, can't live without working snaps, look at what you snappy people did! :)09:22
oSoMoNmvo, if you need testing when the fix is ready, let me know09:24
oSoMoNanyone familiar with Chinese input methods here? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-input-chinese-in-snap-firefox/457609:38
didrocksoSoMoN: I know bochecha is, if you want to try pinging him on gimp.net09:43
oSoMoNthanks, will do09:44
Laneypitti: hey there, don't suppose you could take a quick look at https://paste.debian.net/plain/1015664 please?09:51
Laneyarmhf is all on the floor :'(09:52
willcookeoSoMoN, could that sogou and confinement don't play well together.  I've replied to find out09:56
pittiLaney: sure, looks fine! pushed09:59
Laneypitti: thanks! hope you're well, happy springtime to you09:59
pittiLaney: Paul was going to do a new Debian upload today too (but I figure having it in master is enough?)09:59
pittiLaney: and to you as well! yes, I'm great, thanks! how about you?09:59
Laneypitti: yeah, the runners check out the branch09:59
LaneyI'm preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty pretty good </larry_david>10:00
oSoMoNwillcooke, thanks10:00
Laneywe're going to try a new (to us, actually it's old) Japanese restaurant later10:00
Laneyassuming I can book a table /o\10:00
pittiLaney: good luck! classic Sushi, or something more exotic?10:09
Laneypitti: sushi, ramen, ... and some things I've never heard of too! http://www.higoi.co.uk/our_menu.html10:13
Laney"ippin ryori"10:13
Laneydidrocks is our local expert :P10:13
didrocksyeah, sushi isn't really the regular Japanese food :)10:15
Laneyビッグマック please10:17
didrocksLaney: ahah, actually, we got some rice burgers10:17
didrockswere way smaller than McDonald ones also :p10:18
Nafallosalut10:19
Laneydidrocks: the rice is the bun or the meat?10:19
Laneyhey Nafallo, ca va?10:19
NafalloLaney: ça va bien, et tu? :-)10:20
didrocksLaney: the rice was the bun10:21
Laneyexciting10:21
LaneyNafallo: ich bin sehr gut!10:21
didrocksI wasn't as pleasantly surprised as I would have hoped10:21
Nafallounderbart! :-)10:21
didrockshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burger#/media/File:MOS_rice_burger_(cropped).JPG10:22
didrocksthat was the one we got, the MOS ^10:22
Laneylooks worth a try10:24
Laneypitti: meh, trusty doesn't have 'gpg' :(10:25
Laneyactually that's new in bionic10:25
Laneyle fail10:25
oSoMoNkenvandine, where do we track firefox snap bugs, now that it's public?10:30
pittiLaney: it used to be gpg-verify (or -check or so), and gnupg2, no?10:41
pittiI already wondered, then I saw the package name in sid10:41
Laneypitti: something like https://paste.debian.net/plain/101567010:44
oSoMoNLaney, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Developers application to the team should be done on the ML, but it looks like the list is more or less deprecated in favour of the hub, how do I go about it?10:45
pittiLaney: applied with fixing the pkg name in the commit log10:46
Laneypitti: ah yeah, thanks10:46
* Laney turns the crank again10:47
tseliotflexiondotorg: I don't see anything wrong in the logs10:48
jbichaLaney: do you want a separate FFe bug for gnome-keyring & gcr or are they already covered by the GNOME 3.28 FFe?11:33
Laneyjbicha: any particular reason why they wouldn't be?11:33
jbichawe already have gnome-keyring 3.27.4 in bionic but 3.28 added that late ssh-agent switch11:33
jbichathings seem to work pretty well now11:34
willcookejibel, do you have a machine with a screen rotation sensor?11:38
darkxstLaney, can you look at FFe on Bug 175480311:38
ubot5`bug 1754803 in gnome-contacts (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Disable telepathy support in gnome-contacts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175480311:38
darkxstit doesnt really affect any official flavours but its still a core-ish GNOME app11:39
jibelwillcooke, no, I don't11:39
willcookejibel, np.  Heber does, I'll ask him11:39
Laneydarkxst: ok then11:44
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darkxstLaney, I will push for the changes to get made in debian ;)12:04
willcookemorning heber!12:14
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heberhi willcooke !12:14
willcookeheber, when you get a chance, could you check that screen rotation is still working properly in 18.04 on the blue Dell 2in1?12:14
heberwillcooke, sure!12:15
oSoMoNTrevinho, would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/libappindicator/bionic-ftbfs-fix/+merge/341729 ?12:44
TrevinhooSoMoN: ok12:45
oSoMoNthanks!12:45
oSoMoNthose are trivial fixes, I came across the build failure while investigating another issue12:45
TrevinhooSoMoN: want me to do the landing too?12:45
oSoMoNTrevinho, please do, I'm not familiar with the process for that12:46
Trevinhok12:46
oSoMoNcheers12:46
oSoMoNTrevinho, do you use bileto?12:46
TrevinhooSoMoN: yep12:47
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kenvandineoSoMoN, i guess mozilla's bugzilla13:14
heberwillcooke, screen rotation seems to work properly. Only I noticed that when switching from landscape to vertical, the gnome settings window is not shown properly13:39
willcookeheber, oh!  How so?13:43
heberwillcooke, the window does not fit the screen. I will send you a screenshot13:44
willcookeheber, ahh Isee13:47
willcookeok, well that's not too bad I think13:47
heberwillcooke, everything else looks good13:47
willcookeThe main thing is that rotation is working.  $OEM said that it wasn't, but my gut feeling was that it was a driver issue not a GNOME Shell issue.13:48
willcookethanks heber13:48
heberwillcooke, np!13:48
ahasenackhi guys, got an easy way to reproduce the xorg crash. I attached swipe-of-death.mp4 to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/175373514:14
ubot5`Error: ubuntu bug 1753735 not found14:14
ahasenackwillcooke: that bug ^ might be under the radar because it's still private14:15
willcookeahasenack, dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinput/+bug/1754487 perhaps?14:19
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1751086 in libinput (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1754487 Xorg assert failure: Xorg: ../src/evdev-mt-touchpad-tap.c:1002: tp_tap_handle_state: Assertion `tp->tap.nfingers_down > 0' failed." [High,Incomplete]14:19
ahasenackyeah14:20
ahasenackwhich was duped to another one14:20
willcookeha, oh yeah14:21
willcookeahasenack, could you comment on the upstream one?14:21
ahasenackI'll add my info to #175108614:21
ahasenackwhich is incomplete14:21
ahasenackoh man, so many tweener.js backtraces in syslog14:22
jbichare LP: #1757142 it was my understanding that fonts-liberation2 will override fonts-liberation if installed14:28
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1757142 in fonts-liberation2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-liberation2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175714214:28
jibelMeeting time!14:30
didrockso/14:30
jbichao/14:30
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Trevinho\o14:31
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jibel#topic andyrock14:32
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andyrocko/14:32
andyrockhey hey14:32
jibeljust on time14:32
andyrockUnity7:14:32
andyrock  - Fix memory leak in UserAuthenticatorPam::AuthenticateStart.14:32
andyrockGnome-Control-Center:14:32
andyrock  - Fix for (LP Bug #1754651: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1754651)14:32
andyrockLivepatch:14:32
andyrock  - MP to add a "enable canonical-livepatch" switch in  software-properties-gtk14:32
andyrock  - Fixing MP after reviews14:32
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1754651 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center windows remains open after using the launch-panel/online-accounts/add "API"" [Medium,Fix released]14:32
didrocksandyrock: it's good for a second review?14:32
andyrock- Some work on the login-dialog for gnome-software14:32
hebero/14:32
andyrockdidrocks: not yet14:33
didrocksk, just ping me :)14:33
andyrockI'll ping you in few seconds14:33
andyrock:D14:33
andyrockeow14:33
jibelThanks andyrock14:33
jibel#topic dgadomski14:33
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dgadomski_hey14:33
dgadomski_only 1 thing this time: submitted a merge request for bug #1749289, I'd appreciate anybody taking a look before bionic release14:33
ubot5`bug 1749289 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "Installer stops after pressing Cancel on Select a language screen during OEM install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174928914:34
dgadomski_eof14:34
jibelthanks dgadomski_14:34
dgadomski_thanks14:34
jibel#topic didrocks14:34
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didrocksTelemetry:14:34
didrocks  - More discussions and tested latest changes after review in ubiquity: ttps://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/intall-metrics/+merge/34122914:34
didrocks  - Started the reporting tool project and add many tests to it: https://github.com/Ubuntu/ubuntu-report. Done functionnally, adding more tests and instrumentations.14:34
didrocksCommunitheme:14:34
didrocks  - switch to bionic and rebase Shell theme on 3.27.92: https://github.com/Ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/pull/7714:34
didrocks  - switch gtk theme and session packages to bionic as well14:34
didrocks  - general talks and monitoring14:35
didrocksMisc:14:35
didrocks  - filed up upstream contributions on doc for ubucon14:35
didrocks  - minimal install PR reviews14:35
didrockseow14:35
jibeldidrocks, thanks!14:35
jibel#topic duflu14:35
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jibel* Screen corruption when logging into Xorg sessions (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753776)14:36
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1753776 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Graphics corruption just before login animation to Xorg sessions (Intel gen9 GPUs only)" [Medium,Triaged]14:36
jibel  - Finally bisected the problem (it's indeed a regression in Mesa 18.0.0).14:36
jibel  - Notified upstream, but they think it *should work* so "we" need to investigate potential kernel fixes.14:36
jibel  - I will report on kernel investigations next week :S14:36
jibel* Gnome Shell performance (very little change this week, but this is the status)14:36
jibel  - Affecting Xorg sessions:14:36
jibel    . Switched focus to the next major CPU issue affecting Xorg sessions (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750197).14:36
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1750197 in mutter (Ubuntu) "App drawer animation causes heavy CPU spikes in Wayland & Xorg" [Medium,Confirmed]14:36
jibel    . Clock smoothness: Still awaiting review (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26)14:36
jibel  - Affecting only Wayland sessions (also no progress, no reviews, this week)14:36
jibel    . Unblock rendering from behind monitor flipping: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/2514:36
jibel    . Simplify and clean up: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/2914:36
jibel* Synaptics touchpad settings missing (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686081):14:36
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1686081 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "If -synaptics is installed, GNOME Mouse & Touchpad Settings doesn't work" [Medium,In progress]14:36
jibel  - Completed a couple of rounds of distro patches for mutter+gnome-control-center and awaiting review/sponsorship.14:36
jibel  - Completed a couple of versions of fixes for a related gtk bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/merge_requests/6514:36
jibel  - Bionic fixes released! (not including GTK but we work around that)14:36
jibel* Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.14:37
jibel  - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive14:37
jibelThanks duflu14:37
jibel#topic jbicha14:38
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jbicha• Lots of GNOME 3.28.0 packaging with darkxst14:38
jbicha• Completed most of the GNOME 3.28 transitions in Debian14:38
jbicha• Debian GNOME has converted all but a few deprecated packages to git14:38
jbicha(smcv converted several this week that failed with our earlier conversion scripts)14:38
jbicha• Sponsored stuff like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.28.0-0ubuntu114:38
jbicha• Fixed (in Debian & Ubuntu) icon conflict issue with gnome-control-center & the old gnome-icon-theme https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/314:38
jbicha• Cherry-picked fix for LP: #175070214:38
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1750702 in gegl (Ubuntu) "gegl build failure on armhf" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175070214:38
jbicha• Updated webkit2gtk for Debian 9.4 and blogged it14:38
jbicha• Dropped ulimit from deja-dup/bionic's autostart file to fix heavily reported crash with webkit2gtk 2.20 (LP: #1751460)14:38
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1751460 in webkit2gtk (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] deja-dup-monitor crashed with SIGSEGV in Gigacage::<lambda()>::operator()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175146014:38
jbicha• Helped deal with fallout from Debian bug 892956 (bug title is opinionated ;) )14:38
ubot5`Debian bug 892956 in meson "meson creates bogus pkgconfig files" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/89295614:38
jbicha🍀14:38
ahasenackwillcooke: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105407 updated14:38
ubot5`Freedesktop bug 105407 in libinput "Xorg assertion failure: Xorg: ../src/evdev-mt-touchpad-tap.c:1002: tp_tap_handle_state: Assertion `tp->tap.nfingers_down > 0' failed." [Normal,Resolved: worksforme]14:38
ahasenackshall I reopen it?14:38
jibeljbicha, ^^ is that to bring us luck for the  release or the end of your report? ;)14:39
jbichaend of report :)14:39
jibeljbicha, Great! Thank you14:39
jibel#topic jibel/heber14:39
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jibel- Analysis of snap crash reports in errors.u.c, discovered that snapd uses its own reporting system that does not honour the automated reporting setting and spams errors.u.c when it fails to initialize a snap and reproduced the problem with MATE and Budgie.14:39
jibel  - https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-ignores-whoopsie-setting-to-upload-crash-reports/446314:39
jibel  - https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-tries-to-report-crashes-and-restarts-indefinitely/448014:39
jibel- Proposed to add more fields to the automated reports to make the reports useful.14:40
jibel  - https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/add-more-information-to-automatically-generated-crash-reports/447514:40
jibel- Reviewed and merged telemetry MP14:40
jibel- Bootspeed:14:41
jibel  - Proposed to delay the start up of gnome-software and evolution-calendar to speed up session start up time.14:41
jibel    - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/175637914:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1756379 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Delay start of gnome-software service" [Undecided,New]14:41
jibel    - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/175638914:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1756389 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "Delay startup of evolution-calendar-factory" [Undecided,New]14:41
jibel  - Measured the impact of preseeding snap package on boot time of the live session and published https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/impact-of-preseeded-snap-packages-on-boot-time-of-the-live-session/458314:41
jibel- Triaged various installer and upgrade bugs.14:41
jibel  - Ubuntu Bionic fails to install over nfs14:41
jibel- Test screen rotation on 18.1014:41
jibel- Analyse bluez tests to migrate to desktop if possible14:41
jibeleow14:41
tamayoxHi there14:41
jibel#topic kenvandine14:41
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tamayoxI'm having a problem with my USB flash drive: Everytime I pass data to it, it gets corrupted. I've tried other USB drives and the result is the same. Any ideas?14:41
kenvandine* Created desktop helpers branch which builds in the LDPRELOAD of bindtextdomain and made it iterate multiple paths looking for translations.  I still need to do some testing before submitting a PR.14:41
kenvandine* Fixed color emojis using the gnome-3-26-1604 platform snap running on bionic. https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-platform-snap/+bug/175314614:41
kenvandine* Created https://gitlab.gnome.org/Ubuntu/gnome-3-28-1804-sdk as the source for the build snap that'll be used for building GNOME 3.28 snaps14:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1753146 in gnome-characters (Ubuntu Bionic) "Characters Snap doesn't have color emoji" [High,Fix released]14:42
tamayoxThank you14:42
jibeltamayox, we are in the middle of a meeting, can you ask again when it's over?14:42
kenvandineEOF14:42
tamayoxjibel: Yeah, no problem14:42
jibelthanks kenvandine14:42
jibel#topic laney14:42
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Laney• gstreamer updates, final releases to do now14:43
Laney• autopkgtest - some maintenance of the github side, fix for gpg dropping off the minimal installation, re-deploy armhf with improved(?) network config, discuss resource constraints with IS14:43
Laney• merged Gunnar's work in g-c-c, submitted part of it upstream14:43
Laney• hi didrocks14:43
Laney• applied for gnome foundation14:43
Laney• updated gvfs, debugged tests a bit with a_hasenack, he is following up with upstream (thanks!)14:43
Laney• fixed glib2.0 autopkgtest failure, not uploaded yet14:43
Laney🤠14:43
Laney* just made a big mess with my tea14:43
Laneybrbrbrb14:43
jibelLaney, anything else for this meeting or you're cleaning up your mess?14:45
jibelokay, we'll be back to Laney once he's done with his tea14:46
jibel#topic oSoMoN14:46
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oSoMoNhey there14:46
Laneyhi, i was done14:46
Laneywas just a post cowboy mess update14:46
oSoMoN• firefox14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ briefly looked into issue reported with firefox snap and Chinese IME (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-input-chinese-in-snap-firefox/4576)14:47
oSoMoN• chromium14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ updated packaging documentation for Ubuntu upstream (https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/970464)14:47
oSoMoN• libreoffice14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ promoted 6.0.2 snap to the stable channel14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/libreoffice14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ backported debian fix for bug #173882114:47
ubot5`bug 1738821 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Appstream data points to libreoffice-common" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173882114:47
oSoMoN  ∘ played with a libreoffice.filebug command similar to ubuntu-bug (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ubuntu-bug-for-snaps/4445/4)14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ at the request of the server team that wants to demote tomcat8 to universe, started conversation with stakeholders to see if libreoffice-base can be demoted too14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ filed MIRs for fonts-liberation2 (bug #1757142) and for fonts-hosny-amiri (bug #1757148)14:47
ubot5`bug 1757142 in fonts-liberation2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-liberation2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175714214:47
ubot5`bug 1757148 in fonts-hosny-amiri (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-hosny-amiri" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175714814:47
oSoMoN• snaps14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ confirmed and fixed evince snap not opening comic book files (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/evince-snap-does-not-open-comic-book-file-cbr-while-deb-does-so/4523)14:47
oSoMoN• other14:47
oSoMoN  ∘ filed and fixed bug #175712114:47
ubot5`bug 1757121 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "libappindicator FTBFS on bionic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175712114:47
oSoMoN  ∘ looking into bug #1757009 (per request from upstream chromium)14:47
ubot5`bug 1757009 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "libappindicator3 not multilib aware, amd64 and i386 versions conflict" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175700914:47
oSoMoN🦉14:47
oSoMoN(no tea, no mess)14:48
jibeloSoMoN, anything else?14:48
oSoMoNI'm done14:48
jibelGood, thanks oSoMoN !14:48
jibel#topic seb12814:48
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jibelseb is out for the week and no update14:48
jibel#topic tkamppeter14:49
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jibel- Hardware: Some testing on the HP OfficeJet Pro 873014:49
jibel- CUPS: Forwarded several crash bugs upstream. Michael Sweet is working on fixes.14:49
jibel- OpenPrinting Summit 2018: Started planning schedules.14:49
jibel- Google Summer of Code 2018: Checked the official proposals of the students which they have submitted to the Google system, given introduction into the exact projects to do to two students, continued mentoring Sahil Arora.14:49
jibel- Bugs.14:49
ahasenackwillcooke: wait, that upstream bug is about wayland, not xorg?14:49
jibelThanks Till14:49
jibel#topic trevinho14:49
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ahasenack"Product" is set to wayland, but the assertion failure talks about Xorg14:49
Trevinho· unity-greeter reubuild and build fixes14:50
Trevinho - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-greeter/logo-update-rebuild14:50
Trevinho· Fixing theme changes and working on implementing Ambiance-Rw14:50
Trevinho· Changes to the Telegram snap to propose PR upstream:14:50
Trevinho  - https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/pull/450514:50
Trevinho· Fixes to electron-builder snap to genrate mime db and icon caches on snap install14:50
Trevinho  - https://github.com/electron-userland/electron-builder/pull/271514:50
Trevinho· Some unity7 debugging for a lockscreen issue14:50
Trevinho· Booked flights and airbnb for attending GNOME performance hackfest14:50
Trevinho  - https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Performance201814:50
Trevinho· Nautilus fixes improvements and cherry-picks to stable14:50
Trevinho🍕14:50
jibelThanks Trevinho14:51
jibel#topic jamesh14:51
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jibelI don't have any update for James14:51
jibel#topic robert_ancell14:51
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jibel- GNOME Software bugfixes14:51
jibel- Backporting GNOME Software categories to 16.04 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/categories-3-20)14:52
jibel- Working on Ubuntu pages for a first run wizard (https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-initial-setup/log/?h=wip/rancell/ubuntu-welcome)14:52
jibel#topic aob14:52
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jibelanyone wants the mic?14:52
jbicha.14:52
jbichaI was wanting to add totem to our minimal-remove list since it's common for people to want to switch it out with vlc or gnome-mpv14:53
jbichaalso, I'd like a decision on whether we need the Amazon webapp in the minimal Ubuntu install14:53
jibel^ anyone any opinion on jbicha's proposal ?14:53
jibelwillcooke, Laney didrocks and all ?14:53
didrockswillcooke: I guess those are mostly for you, as you discussed the content with the product manager ^14:54
willcookeotp - sec14:54
willcooke+1 sounds fine to me14:54
willcookedidrocks, any opinion?14:54
jbichawillcooke: fine to remove both totem and the webapp?14:54
willcooke-1 on webapp, sorry14:55
jbichaalmost … ;)14:55
willcookenice try14:55
Laneyyou already tried that one14:55
didrockswillcooke: I don't know for totem, I think vlc is a strong candidate for replacement, so yeah, makes sense14:55
jbichaI didn't remember getting a firm answer yet14:55
willcookecaveat re: totem - I don't want to spend time on it if it will affect data collection service work14:56
didrocksI guess jbicha is going to do the MP14:56
willcookekk cool14:56
jbichait takes almost no time to add it to the list14:56
didrocksjbicha: think testing it with gstreamer additional codecs14:56
didrocksso you need to test an install, and so on14:56
didrocks(with 3rd part options)14:56
jbichahmm14:57
didrocksso no, don't just update the list, have a real install :)14:57
jibeljbicha, you have an answer. Anything else for this week?14:58
didrocksnothing for me14:58
jbichanothing for me14:58
jibelLets wrap then. Thank you everyone and see you next meeting!14:59
didrocksthanks!14:59
jibel#endmeeting14:59
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meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-03-20-14.30.moin.txt14:59
oSoMoNthanks!14:59
kenvandinethanks!14:59
oSoMoNcyphermox, I suppose you're not working on bug #1081938, are you?14:59
ubot5`bug 1081938 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Libappindicator is not multilib aware, 32bit conflicts rather than works with 64bit" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108193814:59
Laneyrls bugs? :(14:59
oSoMoNLaney, getting into a new habit is hard… :/15:01
willcookeright, off the phone15:05
willcookeLaney, can you paste the link to the bugs, and lets do it now15:05
Laneyok15:06
Laneyhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:06
Laneythere's just http://launchpad.net/bugs/1756379 and http://launchpad.net/bugs/175638915:07
willcookethanks15:07
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1756379 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Delay start of gnome-software service" [Undecided,New]15:07
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1756389 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "Delay startup of evolution-calendar-factory" [Undecided,New]15:07
willcookeI spoke to robert_ancell about #1756379 last night - he's +115:07
Laneythe titles specify the solution which isn't ideal15:07
Laneyis it ok to not have calendar events for 60 seconds after you log in?15:08
Laneysame for software search results in the overview15:08
willcookeIMO yes, 60 seconds is ok.15:08
willcookeThere might be an impact on the first run wizard if they try to open G-Software sooner, but I assume it will just load everything at the point when they try and launch it via the wizard15:09
willcookePer the comment on the #1756389, if jibel can propose it upstream, that makes sense - they will likely have a better view of if that's bad or not15:10
Laneyit's probably dbus activated actually15:11
Laneybut surprised that this is acceptable, but ok then15:11
willcookeLaney, surprised that a 60 second delay is ok?15:12
Laneyyes, you get an arbitrary period where things might not work properly15:13
LaneyI think actually that gnome-software will get started on demand, so it might "just" be a delay15:13
Laneywhich might make the first search slow15:13
willcookeah15:14
willcookejibel, could you test that? ^15:14
willcookeLaney, if that's the case then would you be +1 on G-Software and -1 on e-c-f?15:14
jibelLaney, willcooke yes but the problem is that it's a search provider and you get no package in a search until the bg service runs15:14
Laneydoes it start the provider on demand or nto?15:14
Laneynot*15:15
jibelI don't think it does, but I'll try15:15
Laneythat's probably alright-ish, depending on what actually happens in the first search15:15
Laneyfor the evolution one I'm not happy, you can't delay starting a dbus service like that - things will timeout15:16
willcookek, then lets leave e-c-f as is, and test g-software15:16
LaneyI'm ok with accepting the nomination if the bug is evolution-calendar-factory makes startup slow and we try to look for another solution15:16
Laneybut the proposed fix, not so much15:16
Laneyimho anyway15:16
willcookeyour opinion is invaluable15:17
LaneyI accepted the g-s one & robert_ancell is assigned15:17
Laneyso that one is sorted15:17
jbichais there a systemd target so that e-c-f can just start after the system is fully loaded?15:17
Laneynot really15:19
cyphermoxoSoMoN: no, I am not15:19
LaneyCommented on the bug, let's take detailed discussion there15:20
willcookethanks Laney15:20
Laneyshould we accept it for the release and if so, who should be assigned?15:20
oSoMoNcyphermox, thanks for confirming15:20
jibelLaney, actually it seems that gnome-software is started on demand. I'll do more test but it'd mean autostart could be completely disabled15:21
LaneyNo it's needed for other things than the search provider15:22
Laneylike fwupd notifications15:22
willcookeLaney, based on what you said, I think that the e-c-f one is not a release critical bug, so let's not accept it. WDYT?15:24
Laneywillcooke: fair enough, it's probably not a quick win15:27
Laneydone, thanks!15:27
Laneyjbicha: once we get proper systemd support you might be able to make it After=gnome-shell.service15:28
Laneywillcooke: oh, different topic, heard anything about default wallpaper / mascot etc?15:29
jbichammm, what about for people that don't use gnome-shell?15:29
Laneybus activation would work, you'd change gnome shell to not activate it15:31
Laneynot saying this is a good or nice idea, but you could :-)15:32
willcookeLaney, chased last week, on track to arrive before UIF15:47
dupondjegdm fractional scaling is broken/removed in 18.04?15:50
dupondjehmz, seems I'm on X again :) but greeter is broken15:53
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1754218 aha!16:08
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1754218 in gdm "[regression] gdm 3.27 shows blank login screen on primary monitor when two monitors are connected on a hybrid intel/nvidia system" [Medium,Confirmed]16:08
dupondjeguess this can use some priority adjustment :D16:09
Laneywillcooke: ♥16:21
GunnarHjjbicha: Do you have time to look at bug #1756982?16:29
ubot5`bug 1756982 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Show correct app name also in non-English sessions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175698216:29
tsimonq2Could I please get a review + upload of https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-release-upgrader/port-away-from-kdesudo/+merge/341555 so that kdesudo can be removed?16:41
oSoMoNTrevinho, another libappindicator MR for your reviewing pleasure: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/libappindicator/multiarch/+merge/34175016:48
oSoMoNthat one hasn't been fully tested yet, because libindicator itself is not multi-arch aware16:48
Laneyhmm, this BT keyboard I have here works :'(17:09
Laneywas just going to get debug information17:09
Laneyactually it's quite nice to type on ...17:09
* Laney finds the speaker17:09
jbichakenvandine: you're getting these emails about "store upload failed for gnome-clocks" and gnome-calculator snap failed to build, right?17:12
Laneyah we forgot to have a snap tutorial at the sprint17:18
kenvandinejbicha, yeah17:25
kenvandinejbicha, i'm pretty sure those all continue to retry17:27
kenvandinebut i'll check on them all17:27
kenvandinejbicha, oh, actually i'm not getting those emails for those specific snaps17:31
kenvandinejbicha, i got some emails, but not for gnome-clocks or gnome-calculator17:31
jbichaok, I'll forward you some17:31
jbichamaybe it's because you're not a direct member of https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team do you want me to add you there?17:32
kenvandinejbicha, i figured it out17:43
kenvandinei was a member, but not subscribed17:43
kenvandinesilly LP17:43
willcookeg'night all18:24
* sunweaver heard that XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP for Unity has been changed to Unity7. Is that correct?18:57
GunnarHjsunweaver: It's a colon separated list.19:20
GunnarHj$ echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP19:20
GunnarHjUnity:Unity7:ubuntu19:20
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GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Hi Robert, can you please take a look at bug #1756982?20:21
ubot5`bug 1756982 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Show correct app name also in non-English sessions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175698220:21
robert_ancellGunnarHj, huh, yeah that makes sense20:23
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Guess we need something like that as long as we use that piece of software for branding.20:26
tsimonq2I'm completely lost with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1756238 - it seems to be because of a vtk update. Maybe someone with more expertise in that area can take a look... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17562320:27
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1756238 in gdebi (Ubuntu) "gdebi-gtk broken in 18.04 error: unable to read filedescriptor flags" [Critical,Confirmed]20:27
ubot5`Error: ubuntu bug 175623 not found20:27
tsimonq2er20:27
tsimonq2yeah20:27
jbicharobert_ancell: can you also update debian/ubuntu-software.links for ubuntu-wayland instead of ubuntu-xorg ?20:46
robert_ancelljbicha, I have no idea what that is20:52
jbichaok, let me just commit it and push then :)20:53
jbichadone20:55

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