[08:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:02] <SuperMatt> morning
[09:03] <diplo> Morning all
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[10:00] <DJones> Morning
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> ooooh, elite: the musical.... :-) https://boingboing.net/2018/03/19/watch-elite-the-musical-the.html
[10:02] <brobostigon> o/
[11:40] <foobarry> is there a way to get firefox to group all my tabs from the same site together?
[11:40] <foobarry> pretty sure that was common functionality some years ago
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> maybe an extension?
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> awwm not compatible since firefox quantum... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/autogroup/
[12:28] <foobarry> hmm "vertical tabs reloaded" looks nice though
[12:38] <knightwise> hey everyone
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> hey dr. knightwise
[12:42] <knightwise>  hey zmoylan-pi
[12:43] <knightwise> how are yo udoing dude :)
[12:45]  * zmoylan-pi prepares to head to medical appointment to confirm my foot is not trying to kill me... again... :-)
[12:45] <knightwise> oops , hope that goes well
[12:45]  * knightwise just trying to avoid a total system crash due to low resources after moving house
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> cut back on slack usage, that'll free up some ram :-)
[12:48] <knightwise> yea
[12:48] <knightwise> couple of hours of sleep
[12:48] <knightwise> or days
[12:53] <brobostigon> patrick stwert on daily politics, :)
[12:53] <brobostigon> stewert*
[12:54] <knightwise> ooh , always good
[13:22] <foobarry> i don't understand why people are calling the cambridge analytica stuff a breach. its a feature that has been widely used for years.
[13:24] <diddledan> it's only a breach in the sense that they used the publicly documented api to do something unethical that facebook asked them to pinky swear they wouldn't do when they signed-up for the api
[13:25] <diddledan> the true issue is the ease of which Facebook makes that possible
[13:25] <diddledan> it certainly isn't a "hack" though
[13:25] <foobarry> farmville etc must have collected data in the same way
[13:26] <zleap> yeah,  this confirms what people have suspected for years,  we are now proved right
[13:26] <foobarry> i don't even think there's a T&C that disallows the use of data. fb allow it as a feature
[13:26] <foobarry> you only ever needed one dumb friend to install an app and the app sees what they see
[13:26] <zleap> i kind of thought that they don't sell data,  they get money through ad clicks,  whuch are created by data
[13:27] <foobarry> farmville had enough coverage to make a copy of facebook from the outside
[13:27] <zleap> so data -> ad company -> display ad >L user click ad > fb take cut
[13:29] <zleap> if that is the case it is a clever ploy
[13:29] <zleap> hopefully CA will get a big fine, sadly this has come out now,  not after te GDPR comes in
[13:30] <zleap> or they would get a bigger fine
[13:30] <foobarry> a fine for what?
[16:27] <diddledan> eeeenteresting
[16:27] <diddledan> removing my NVMe drive fixes my motherboard's thunderbolt support
[16:28] <diddledan> wonder what voodoo gigabyte did to conflict those two?!
[18:00] <daftykins> shared PCIe lanes perhaps o0
[18:00] <daftykins> shouldn't really be the case though, typically the M.2 slot comes off the CPU or the PCH
[18:06] <diddledan> weirdly the thunderbolt device was visible just unresponsive when the NVMe was installed, but the UEFI settings were missing. removing the NVMe makes the thunderbolt disappear, but the settings appear in the UEFI setup, AND a new device for USB 3.1 (XHCI) appears.
[18:08] <diddledan> I'm assuming the thunderbolt disappears because it's supposed to powersave until there's actually a thunderbolt device attached
[18:09] <diddledan> ... and the powersave required it to be properly initialised which wasn't happening when the NVMe was installed, so the Thunderbolt was visible because it couldn't set itself to powersave
[18:11] <daftykins> hmm i'd check on my desktop but i'm on the wrong one :D
[18:11] <diddledan> :-)
[18:12] <diddledan> of course my NVMe has my loonicks installation so I'm unable to boot that to check how things appear in the hacker world
[18:13] <daftykins> ooh you fiend
[18:13] <daftykins> so uh - i brought those floppies home
[18:13] <diddledan> haha
[18:13] <diddledan> you're a sucker for punishment?
[18:13] <daftykins> i'm now playing "which mobo has a controller?" and sadly the answer is the PC at my office desk i'm on now, a core 2 quad extreme
[18:14] <daftykins> yeah, apparently the wrestling with the iMac yesterday wasn't enough
[18:14] <diddledan> I've got one of those laying about over in the back
[18:14] <daftykins> now i've got to check my spares shelf for a floppy ribbon
[18:14] <diddledan> got a couple of those, too
[18:14] <daftykins> oh no wait, the PC it's in *does* have a controller, i'm just blind
[18:15] <daftykins> i must've tried to spare myself the task by mentally redacting it
[18:15] <diddledan> :-/
[18:15] <diddledan> :-\
[18:15] <diddledan> :-|
[18:15] <diddledan> :--
[18:24] <SuperEngineer> diddledan's making faces again, Miss!  Miss, Miss look at diddledan!
[18:24] <diddledan> *duck*
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> america has pedestrian killed by a self driving car.  the uk has man killed by an electronic footrest... what the hell is an electronic footrest?
[20:18]  * diddledan rips some blurries
[20:19] <diddledan> (rips them a new one ;-p)
[20:19] <daftykins> woo
[20:19] <zmoylan-pi> rip the blu ray to a 5-6gb file and then watch it on your 4" phone :-)
[20:19] <daftykins> still need to transfer a recent one to a clients server, brought home his 2 x 10TB RAID1 synology NAS though yesterday, so i can continue to configure that here
[20:20] <diddledan> I'm a bit wary of makemkv being rather shady legally, so I've used the windows desktop app converter to pop it in Windows equivalent of a snap package
[20:20] <daftykins> y'say that but at least said phone might be 1080p or greater ;)
[20:20] <daftykins> diddledan: sounds horrible
[20:20] <daftykins> just use it as it was intended :>
[20:20] <diddledan> lol
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> my phone cost more than 10.80p!! :-)
[20:21] <diddledan> but VIRII
[20:21] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: barely ;)
[20:21] <diddledan> .. legal
[20:22] <diddledan> so now that flixster is going away soonish (already gone in murrica apparently, so I'm assuming it's going here too) who actually supports UltraViolet streaming in the UK now?
[20:23] <zmoylan-pi> oh yeah, that's dead now, isn't it?
[20:23] <diddledan> ref: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/20/17033602/flixster-video-service-shuts-down
[20:23] <Azelphur> daftykins: it was you I was talking to about Device or resource busy with deluge, right?
[20:24] <Azelphur> Might amuse you, actually looks like it could be a kernel regression.
[20:24] <diddledan> oooh
[20:25] <Azelphur> me and another user have the same issue, and the issue went away for both of us with an older kernel, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:25] <diddledan> kernel shenanigans?!
[20:25] <Azelphur> appears so
[20:25] <diddledan> awesome
[20:32] <daftykins> Azelphur: hah, sheesh
[20:32] <daftykins> Arch to blame then? ;)
[20:33] <diddledan> apparently you can link your googley playdoh, appley ispoons, amazon primates, and ultraviolet using moviesanywhere.com via a vpn
[20:35] <Azelphur> daftykins: nope - debian also effected
[20:37] <daftykins> which kernels?
[20:40] <Azelphur> daftykins: not sure, the user mentions downgrading on 4.9.0 on Debian 9.4 stretch - but not what kernel he has
[20:40] <Azelphur> daftykins: just to make it weirder, see this quote from ##linux https://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54871&p=227993#p227993
[20:41] <daftykins> messy
[20:51] <Azelphur> so maybe some weird issue involving boost and newer kernels and nfs (?) I'll keep testing until I figure out where the fault is lol
[21:16] <daftykins> what's happened to our resident penguin?
[21:19] <zmoylan-pi> found a pack of penguin bars and is making a nest?
[21:20] <daftykins> :D could be
[21:24] <zmoylan-pi> i believe the current technique to find penguins is to use satellites to look for their poo...
[21:26] <daftykins> he posted 2 days ago on twitter
[21:41] <daftykins> oh that's someone else i think