[08:05] <diplo> Morning all
[08:25] <knightwise> morning diplo
[08:25] <knightwise> how are you today
[08:43] <SuperMatt> g'day
[09:24] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:26] <SuperMatt> hullo
[09:26] <SuperMatt> I have upgraded to 18.04
[09:27] <SuperMatt> for some reasons snaps don't work, but otherwise I am pleased with this beta
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning
[09:27] <brobostigon> :)
[09:53] <foobarry> SuperMatt: which DE?
[09:59] <SuperMatt> Gnome
[09:59] <SuperMatt> I've always liked gnome
[10:01] <SuperMatt> I've had a look at kde, budgie and mate, but tbh gnome is the one that sits nicest with me
[10:10] <knightwise> hey everyone
[10:10] <knightwise> mate is nice for light systems
[10:10] <knightwise> cool to see how it has made such a comeback
[10:19] <foobarry> oh the ubuntu gnome beta is out? i thought there wasn't a beta1 of gnome release
[10:20] <foobarry> can i see a screenshot please from your setup?
[10:30] <knightwise> whow
[10:30] <knightwise> just changed the UI from my elementary machine to classic unity
[10:30] <knightwise> its MUCH faster
[10:30] <knightwise> I didnt expect taht
[10:31] <diplo> Hey knightwise - lag response, busy morning.. good thanks, yourself ?
[11:31] <foobarry> anyone good at tensorflow?
[11:41] <SuperMatt> I'm good and beerflow
[11:41] <SuperMatt> *at
[11:41] <brobostigon> and CoffeeFlow. :)
[11:42] <SuperMatt> I'm not a coffee drinker
[11:42] <SuperMatt> tbf, I'm not even a beer drinker
[11:42] <SuperMatt> I just padded out my cv
[11:42] <SuperMatt> I should have said WineFlow
[11:44] <brobostigon> :)
[12:09] <SuperEngineer> did someone say the wine is flowing?  please dm address or send me some]
[13:33] <diddledan> machine learning confuses the poo out of me
[13:33] <diddledan> I think, like quantum physics, anyone who claims to understand it is delusional
[13:34] <foobarry> its taking over the world
[13:34] <foobarry> every research discipline is using tensorflow
[13:34] <foobarry> even humanities
[13:43] <SuperMatt> https://i.imgur.com/Ss2qt.jpg
[13:53] <foobarry> wow clean desktop
[13:53] <SuperMatt> oops, gotta close down irssi now because digital ocean are about to reboot my droplet for spectre/meltdown purposes
[13:54] <daftykins> heh
[13:54] <diddledan> haha
[13:55] <daftykins> hoho
[14:12] <daftykins> mmm so AMD have responded to those CTS Labs findings
[14:14] <diddledan> oh?
[14:15] <daftykins> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12556/amd-confirms-exploits-patched-in-weeks
[14:22] <SuperMatt> successful reboot  \o/
[14:22] <diddledan> \o/
[14:22] <diddledan> daftykins: that amd thingy was real?!
[14:23] <diplo> SuperMatt: not done out of hours, mines scheduled email is in the wee hours of the morning
[14:23] <diddledan> judging by the obviously marketing driven announcement I assumed it was all hot air
[14:23] <diddledan> it's early morning in west-us
[14:23] <daftykins> diddledan: mmm, bit of a surprise
[14:24] <SuperMatt> I preferred mine done in hours, so I could check at a non-stupid hour
[14:24] <diplo> Ah, you can ask that can you?
[14:24] <SuperMatt> I don't know
[14:24] <SuperMatt> I didn't
[14:24] <SuperMatt> I just got an email, and I decided not to question it
[14:24] <diplo> Or just reboot yourself and that's it? wasn't wee hours actually, just checked.. between 19/20:00 utc
[14:25] <daftykins> i haven't lifted a finger with my DO VPS
[14:25] <SuperMatt> They needed to patch the hosts
[14:25] <diplo> Me either tbh daftykins, I normally let them do their thang!
[14:25] <daftykins> yep :)
[15:15] <NET||abuse_> hey guys, i've a new project to undertake, and I haven't programmed for a long while, maybe 3 years
[15:15] <NET||abuse_> rather than default to the easy things i've done before, which would result in a PHP or Python microservice , I am thinking of taking on something like Go or Rust
[15:16] <NET||abuse_> project is to write an events ingestor and consumers for enrichment and storage of that collected event data
[15:18] <NET||abuse_> I thought something like python would be great for the ease of dealing with data libs, like numpy, pandas, etc.. but i think certainly at the parts that are dealing with the direct interfaces to the production stack, the events publishing endpoint listener, and the consumer which pulls in more data from prod systems, a lighter weight binary rather than python would be a nice touch, plus i get to learn something forward looking
[15:39] <foobarry> who has to support it?
[15:46] <diddledan> I volunteer to be ignored when that decision is made
[15:47] <foobarry> i vote python3 for supportability
[15:48] <foobarry> and for when NET||abuse_ falls under a self-driving uber
[15:53] <zmoylan-pi> brainfuck because the cheap skates never paid for private medical insurance?
[15:56] <daftykins> can you carry a soldering iron on flights?
[15:56] <diddledan> I think that already happened considering the lack of responses
[15:57] <zmoylan-pi> don't they ban knittng needles?
[15:58] <zmoylan-pi> even crochet hooks... and probably straight to rubber glove time if you try with a gas powered one...
[15:58] <daftykins> :)
[15:59] <zmoylan-pi> huh, 7" or less allowed... https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/61047/is-it-possible-to-take-a-soldering-iron-aboard-an-airplane
[16:00] <zmoylan-pi> but some people have had them confiscated by tsa in america...
[16:00] <daftykins> a friend who lives in England these days is planning on dumping a 37" TV when it just sounds like bad caps, heh
[16:00] <zmoylan-pi> yes.. but not everyone is a dab hand with a soldering iron...
[16:01] <daftykins> no, i pointed him to an ebay repair for that exact model for £60
[16:01] <daftykins> he'd not even looked
[16:01] <daftykins> pretty despicable attitude
[16:01] <daftykins> must be excited to buy a new toy...
[16:01] <zmoylan-pi> people are used to throwing good hardware away
[16:02] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen people dump pcs because they were /slow/... when all it needed was a virus removal and a reinstall
[16:02] <zmoylan-pi> but then... i get a free pc... :-)
[16:03] <daftykins> mmm, but he messaged me to ask for advice on a new one, not how to fix the old :D
[16:03] <zmoylan-pi> you could take the old one to the dump for him... repair it, and sell it...
[16:04] <zmoylan-pi> and i don't think anyone is excited by a new printer... except someone sharing a cubicle with a dot matrix... :-D
[16:13] <daftykins> :)
[16:14] <daftykins> well, he's a fair way away up on the mainland
[16:14] <zmoylan-pi> those non islanders... pffffft.... mad i say... :-P
[16:20] <foobarry> had a dodgy key on my new laptop
[16:21] <foobarry> engineer came to replace keyboard, "most keyboards aren't perfect you know". erm one of my keys doesn't work. pretty fundamental
[16:22] <foobarry> i think he was insinuating that i was being fussy
[16:22] <zmoylan-pi> what's th worst that could happn? :-)
[16:22] <foobarry> actually if you hit directly int he middle, it worked
[16:23] <foobarry> but its a "little finger" key, that rarely gets hit square on
[16:26] <foobarry> still doesn't fix the fact i don't have a home/end keys any more:(
[16:26] <zmoylan-pi> use vim... gg gG :-)
[16:28] <zmoylan-pi> a text editor invented before such keys existed :-)