[14:03] <jrwren> https://atlas.ripe.net/about/  you should get a probe (its free)
[14:24] <rick_h_> words you need to turn off your childish inside voice before processing
[14:26] <cmaloney> determine how ripe you are with a probe? :)
[14:28] <jrwren> lol rick_h_ for a sec I way thinking, "I can't help my high pitched girly voice."
[14:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: lol
[14:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: no, that's not the issue at hand, carry on
[14:29] <rick_h_> ok, I'm having a hard time this morning going "yay k8s!" going through this https://github.com/vmware/harbor/blob/master/docs/kubernetes_deployment.md
[14:33] <jrwren> rick_h_: dude... i'm so upset with k8s right now. CronJobs are TERRIBLE!!!
[14:34] <rick_h_> jrwren: I was going to reply to your post on that
[14:34] <rick_h_> love how "I want to do X, what's the worse off container method of X?"
[14:35] <jrwren> hahahahahaha, exactly.
[14:36] <rick_h_> I figured it was a bit snarky to reply publicly though heh
[14:38] <jrwren> hehehehe
[14:39] <jrwren> The thing is, snappy is the only thing that autoupdates.
[14:43] <rick_h_> ?
[14:43] <rick_h_> oh you mean you need cron jobs to update something?
[14:44] <rick_h_> damn, 800MB tar to copy around and load images
[14:44] <rick_h_> wheee
[14:47] <cmaloney> k8s - when you want to automate yourself out of devops by trying to figure out how to automate your install process
[14:48] <rick_h_> watch the video: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2018/03/introducing-Skaffold-Easy-and-repeatable-Kubernetes-development.html
[14:48] <rick_h_> they autorun "make run"
[14:49] <jrwren> rick_h_: well, its docker, so its a 30MB layered docker image, but yup... that is the "CronJob"
[14:50] <jrwren> rick_h_: makefiles are hard, Dockerfiles are easier.  right?  lolz
[14:54] <rick_h_> sweet, next eng sprint is in portland so get to mountain bike in 4 new states this year
[14:54] <rick_h_> put that travel bag to good use
[15:04] <jrwren> nice!
[15:06] <rick_h_> man, 5000 feet of decent... that's insane
[15:11] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's awesome!
[15:11] <cmaloney> (re: the bike)
[15:11] <cmaloney> I want to like Docker but man it just feels frustrating as hell
[15:14] <rick_h_> so it's cool to grab something and docker run it locally and have it all up and running straight form the image like a VM
[15:15] <rick_h_> there's something here, I just need to get over enough of the learning curve to get it I guess. I just don't get the loading of 22 yaml files of config to run something in k8s
[15:15] <rick_h_> not sure how that was the 'easy' path yet I guess
[15:20] <jrwren> its not easy.
[15:20] <jrwren> its reproducable.
[15:20] <jrwren> easy is turn on an ec2 instance and treat it like a server from 1997
[15:33] <cmaloney> heh
[15:33] <cmaloney> s/easy/well-understood/ ;)
[17:48] <greg-g> cattle not pets and all
[17:48] <greg-g> and yeah, I have a ripe atlas hooked up to my router :)
[17:49] <greg-g> not that the bay area wasn't covered well or anything, I just felt like being cool
[17:49] <jrwren> Ann Arbor only has a few.
[17:50] <greg-g> that surprises me
[17:50] <greg-g> figured there'd be more
[17:50] <cmaloney> Maybe we're a little more leery of hooking foreign devices to our internet connections
[17:51] <Scary_Guy> still don't trust it
[17:52] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'd rather trust some guy in Poland making Tomato firmware than a large company of intenet probes.
[17:52] <cmaloney> thankyouverymuch. :)
[17:53] <greg-g> ripe are good people, at least according to my DD friends who also have them in their homes
[17:53] <greg-g> I mean, it ain't no amazon echo :P
[17:53] <cmaloney> (I'm being somewhat cheeky)
[17:53] <greg-g> (figured ;) )
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> but at least I can look at the source code and compile that firmware myself if I so choose
[17:54] <cmaloney> THat was a slight dig at Eero et al with their closed cloud-based Internet Router firmware
[17:54] <greg-g> Scary_Guy: of? an echo?
[17:54] <greg-g> oh, no, the router with tomato
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> and I use OpenWRT
[17:56] <Scary_Guy> unfortunately it's still on Linksys firmware, which I do have reservations about.  but there aren't many good open hardware routers out there that I know of
[17:57] <Scary_Guy> that don't cost an arm and a leg*
[18:05] <Scary_Guy> also https://mycroft.ai is a thing too
[18:05] <jrwren> "a few" a dozen in the county total, if i remember what I saw this morning.
[22:07] <greg-g> hah, when your team tries to one-up on language beauty to do a thing: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6875
[22:09] <cmaloney> heh
[22:10] <cmaloney> That code up top doesn't look like Ruby, or perhaps Ruby is starting to look more like Python. :)
[22:11] <cmaloney> Actually, the first one does look like ruby now that I look at it a second time
[22:12] <cmaloney> And by  "look like ruby" I mean that I have NFC what this line does: end.find do |vm|
[22:13] <greg-g> :)
[22:13] <greg-g> plus it's Ruby written by someone who used to do mostly ruby but who's been doing more python and Go lately and went back to Ruby for this quick script
[22:14] <cmaloney> Is that why it looks like someone took some Python and said "let's throw in Perl to make it more readable".
[22:18] <cmaloney> seriously, my Google fu doesn't have anything for "end.find do"...
[22:18] <cmaloney> I mean, I sort of get what it's doing but I'm sitting here parsing it rather than understanding it