[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 22 15:01:44 2018 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
[15:01] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther juliank)
[15:01] <slangasek> bdmurray Odd_Bloke cyphermox mwhudson tribaal juliank fginther doko sil2100 infinity rcj philroche rbalint slangasek tdaitx xnox
[15:02] <slangasek> bdmurray: hullo
[15:02]  * xnox wins
[15:02] <bdmurray> hey
[15:02] <bdmurray> updated daisy job to remove core files and corresponding RT
[15:02] <bdmurray> further testing of gdb retrace hang
[15:02] <bdmurray> special SRU reviews for coreycb
[15:02] <bdmurray> discussion with seb128 re: Error Tracker and LP crash differences
[15:02] <bdmurray> reported bug regarding whoopsie and obscurity of report_crashes
[15:03] <bdmurray> discussion with seb128 re: JournalErrors attachment
[15:03] <bdmurray> worked with webops to get daisy updated and cores dumped
[15:03] <bdmurray> uploaded u-r-u with larger small saftey buffer for initramfs
[15:03] <bdmurray> reviewed + merged community member u-r-u change re kdesudo
[15:03] <bdmurray> review of software-properties canonical livepatch changes
[15:03] <bdmurray> investigation into / testing of plymouth --ping hang
[15:03] <bdmurray> done
[15:03] <rbalint> o/
[15:03] <bdmurray> ochosi_:
[15:03] <bdmurray> Odd_Bloke:
[15:03] <slangasek> I believe Odd_Bloke is not here
[15:04] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[15:04] <cyphermox> well, he missed his chance!
[15:04] <cyphermox> - MIR reviews: pymacaroons, volume-key, libu2f-host, chrome-gnome-shell, ujson,
[15:04] <cyphermox> pyxs, rax-nova-agent
[15:04] <cyphermox> - reviewed ubiquity-slideshow merges
[15:04] <cyphermox> - verifying SRU bugs for netplan
[15:04] <cyphermox> - preparing netplan 0.34.1 (bugfix)
[15:04] <cyphermox> - finishing up on shim-signed for self-signed MOK updates
[15:04] <cyphermox> - fixed finish-install leaving behind a /etc/network/interfaces
[15:04] <cyphermox> - implementing 'netplan try'
[15:04] <cyphermox> - trying not to pass out from this cold in general
[15:04] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:05] <slangasek> tribaal:
[15:05] <tribaal> * worked on getting minimal images on cloud-image.ubuntu.com (under way, good progress already)
[15:05] <tribaal> * Having fun with grub2 packagin and the FFe process for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1754586
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1754586 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[FFe request] Enable booting initrd-less with fallback" [Undecided,New]
[15:05] <tribaal> (done)
[15:06] <juliank> * scratching my head at (and poked guillem about) bug #1512322 and bug #1750465
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1512322 in dpkg (Ubuntu Bionic) "dpkg assert failure: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:245: process_queue:" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512322
[15:06] <juliank> * poked people to resend zstd initramfs patches for kernel :)
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1750465 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu Artful) "upgrade attempting to process triggers out of order (package plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text 0.9.2-3ubuntu17 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750465
[15:06] <juliank> * ubuntu-release-upgrader: fix for bug #1725359
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1725359 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release detection relies on lsb-release" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725359
[15:06] <juliank> * switched changelogs.ubuntu.com to HTTPS (especially for metarelease files in u-r-u, update-manager, bug #1744318); also for changelogs in apt (not uploaded yet)
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1744318 in update-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "changelogs.ubuntu.com should be using HTTPS" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1744318
[15:06] <juliank> * adjusted IS firewall for autopkgtest to allow HTTPS access to changelogs.u.c....
[15:06] <juliank> * fix crash in PackageKit (bug #1754265)
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1754265 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "packagekitd crashed with SIGSEGV in utilBuildPackageId()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754265
[15:06] <juliank> * looked at slangasek's kernel autoremoval situation (bug #1757529)
[15:06] <ubottu> bug 1757529 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt: after reboot, still wants to keep 3 kernels when it should only keep 2" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757529
[15:06] <juliank> * help figuring out solution to autopkgtest being broken for lot of (python-)apt-based tests
[15:06] <juliank> (done)
[15:07] <fginther> * 2 days of Cloud Partner visits
[15:07] <fginther> * Enabled build-discarder for jenkaas jobs
[15:07] <fginther> * Build system vanguard
[15:07] <fginther> * More progress on automated jenkins build failure analysis
[15:07] <fginther> (done)
[15:07] <fginther> doko:
[15:07] <sil2100> Is doko around for the meeting?
[15:07] <xnox> nope
[15:08] <xnox> he is at linaro connect
[15:08] <sil2100> So me \o/
[15:08] <sil2100> - Partially AFK on Friday
[15:08] <sil2100> - FFe reviews
[15:08] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:08] <sil2100> - Kernel SRU reviews and releases
[15:08] <sil2100> - Testing of some additional --auto-nvram grub2 changes
[15:08] <sil2100> - Looking into cxlflash packaging
[15:08] <sil2100> - Attaching diffstat output to kernel-sru-review diffs
[15:08] <sil2100> - MP for diffstat-addition for sru-review (got feedback, need to get back to it)
[15:08] <sil2100> (done)
[15:09] <rcj> rcj:
[15:09] <rcj> * updating tooling for minimal image stream indexing (automation not in place)
[15:09] <rcj> * triaging bug #1754030
[15:09] <ubottu> bug 1754030 in cloud-images "Ubuntu vmdk fails to boot with hardware virtualization version 11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754030
[15:09] <rcj> * various cloud-image partner work
[15:09] <rcj> (done)
[15:10] <bdmurray> philroche:
[15:12] <slangasek> rbalint:
[15:12] <rbalint> (short week)
[15:12] <rbalint> * (highlight) remove old kernels in update-manager, too: LP: #1624644
[15:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1624644 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) "By default settings unattended-upgrade does not automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624644
[15:12] <rbalint> * prepare Bionic WSL appx for testing
[15:12] <rbalint> * test and propose (on ubuntu-devel) LZ4 as initramfs compressor LP: #1488620
[15:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1488620 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Add LZ4 support" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488620
[15:12] <rbalint> (done)
[15:13] <slangasek>  * continued archive work / +1 maintenance; hunting down lots of packages that were synced at beginning of cycle and never made it out of -proposed
[15:13] <slangasek>  * discussions around UEFI support on clouds
[15:13] <slangasek>  * upgraded desktop to 18.04 and filed a few bugs
[15:13] <slangasek>  * autopkgtest infra:
[15:13] <slangasek>   * deploy autopkgtest from a branch we control, not from an upstream import
[15:13] <slangasek>   * revert some upstream changes to fix python-apt autopkgtests due to APT::Default-Release
[15:13] <slangasek>  * uploaded plymouth to fix a trigger-related upgrade issue (LP: #1750465)
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1750465 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu Artful) "upgrade attempting to process triggers out of order (package plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text 0.9.2-3ubuntu17 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750465
[15:13] <slangasek>  * off next Thursday and Friday
[15:13] <slangasek> (done)
[15:13] <slangasek> tdaitx:
[15:13] <tdaitx> * OpenJDK 9 as default JDK
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - more fixes
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - syncing and testing updates from Debian
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - prepared new follow-up email, waiting review
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - getting gettext's msgfmt working as it causes other packages to FTBFS
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - db5.3 is the only main package that still FTBFS, candidate for b-dep on openjdk-8-jre
[15:13] <tdaitx>   - 2 important packages FTBFS in universe: maven-debian-helper and
[15:13] <tdaitx> maven-bundle-plugin (alioth has fixes, under test)
[15:13] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:14] <xnox> db5.3 -> me is sad
[15:14] <xnox> • split libicu60 to have less dependencies, thus making our minimal chroot even shmaller
[15:14] <xnox> • upgraded python-pyvmomi to new upstream release in bionic
[15:14] <xnox> • systemd SRUs are published
[15:14] <xnox> • noticed dovecot adt regression from above, uploaded fix
[15:14] <xnox> • noticed mariadb adt regression from above, uploaded fix
[15:14] <xnox> • fixed up livecd-rootfs fix for minimal images
[15:14] <xnox> • ruby transition is done
[15:14] <xnox> • u2f-host SRU for udev rules done
[15:14] <xnox> • upgrading windows VM to test newer APPX
[15:14] <xnox> done
[15:14] <slangasek> *(db5.3->me)?
[15:17] <slangasek> xnox: heh, that provoked me to look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/priority-mismatches.html, and I see something is now trying to pull build-essential into important
[15:17] <slangasek> ok, questions over status?
[15:18] <fginther> xnox, is that python-pyvmomi available in a PPA?
[15:18] <rcj> fginther: bionic should just be in the archive, right?
[15:19] <fginther> right, but I expect it will take a few days to get there
[15:19] <rcj> rmadison says NOW!
[15:19] <fginther> oh, nvm then
[15:19] <slangasek> "a few days" - only in case of errors
[15:20] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
[15:21] <slangasek> [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:21] <slangasek> a shorter list than last week, that's nice
[15:21] <bdmurray> there are a couple of new ones
[15:21] <bdmurray> bug 1755192
[15:21] <ubottu> bug 1755192 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Running add-apt-repository inside docker bionic container gives No such file or directory: 'S.gpg-agent.browser'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755192
[15:22] <juliank> nice
[15:22] <juliank> ugh
[15:23] <slangasek> xnox: ^^ sounds like that's related to the gpg rejigger, what does add-apt-repository need?
[15:23] <xnox> fginther, nah, just bionic universe
[15:23] <juliank> it should not need a gpg-agent
[15:23] <xnox> slangasek, yeah, i should look into it.
[15:25] <slangasek> claimed
[15:25] <bdmurray> Does anybody feel like a decision has been made regarding bug 1756446?
[15:25] <ubottu> bug 1756446 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "Include JournalErrors.txt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756446
[15:26] <bdmurray> Well, I really mean what JournalErrors.txt should include not sending it to whoopsie.
[15:27] <slangasek> I don't think a decision has been made yet
[15:27] <slangasek> bdmurray: maybe you want to drive the list discussion to a conclusion?
[15:27] <slangasek> I have no strong opinion here; I argued for only including errors based on the filename
[15:28] <bdmurray> Okay maybe I will.
[15:28] <slangasek> ok :)
[15:28] <bdmurray> jibel brought up bug 1756862
[15:28] <ubottu> bug 1756862 in apt-clone (Ubuntu) "upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 - apt-clone crashed with SystemError in commit(): installArchives() failed" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756862
[15:29] <bdmurray> Isn't that the ubiquity upgrade code though?
[15:29] <juliank> _something_ failed to install I'd say, it's a traceback in apt-clone
[15:29] <bdmurray> Didn't I talk about dropping it at one point in time?
[15:29] <slangasek> I don't recall
[15:30]  * juliank does not see the need for it
[15:30] <slangasek> it does seem to be via the ubiquity upgrade option
[15:30] <xnox> i'm up for dropping that too....
[15:30] <bdmurray> xnox: I think it was to you I mentioned dropping it
[15:30] <slangasek> at one point, ubiquity's upgrade option was the best way to cross-migrate from i386 to amd64
[15:30] <xnox> hahahhaha
[15:31] <juliank> just hide the button in the UI file -> problem solved :D
[15:31] <xnox> slangasek, and soon to cross-migrate from amd64 to arm64, right? wait, no, one needs a new laptop
[15:31] <slangasek> yeah, I was going to say that if the option is broken it's better to hide it
[15:31] <slangasek> but I think it's worth a little bit of effort to see what's happening here
[15:31] <slangasek> xnox: but the disk interfaces are the same ;)
[15:33] <juliank> we need a better hook to add term.log and friends for apt-clone I think...
[15:33] <bdmurray> that's all I wanted to raise
[15:33] <slangasek> xnox: do you think we should take LP: #1742903?  (do you agree with the bug?)
[15:33] <bdmurray> juliank: that'd be good I'm not certain how to detect ubiquity upgrades though
[15:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1742903 in intel-microcode (Ubuntu) "Microcode updates require a reboot to apply, but package postinst doesn't touch /run/reboot-required" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1742903
[15:33] <xnox> slangasek, yes.
[15:34] <slangasek> ok, taking
[15:34] <xnox> slangasek, but it may need to be more smart; e.g. check the new microcode revisions vs currently loaded; to see if there was an update to microcode for this system, actually.
[15:34] <slangasek> anything else from that list today?
[15:34] <slangasek> xnox: ok please put that comment on the bug?
[15:35] <bdmurray> I think we should just pass on 1749546 again
[15:35] <juliank> xnox: Even a dumb one is better than none...
[15:35] <juliank> :D
[15:35] <bdmurray> Oh I mean 1631098
[15:36] <juliank> but would be nice
[15:36] <slangasek> bdmurray: if there are no other bug reports coming in right now about it, yeah, seems reasonable to punt
[15:36] <slangasek> bdmurray: at least it probably shouldn't be on our "must be done for 18.04" list?
[15:37] <slangasek> perhaps I should put it on trello and we can drop it from the release tracking list?
[15:37] <rbalint> imo errors=replace would be better
[15:37] <juliank> abythubg is better than ignore
[15:38] <slangasek> juliank's text brought to you by errors=transpose
[15:38] <rbalint> slangasek: i replied but it was buggy, thus dropped :-(
[15:40] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
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[15:40] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:41] <bdmurray> nope
[15:42] <slangasek> #endmeeting
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[15:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar 22 15:42:17 2018 UTC.
[15:42] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-03-22-15.01.moin.txt
[15:42] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[15:42] <tdaitx> thanks!
[15:42] <sil2100> Thanks!
[15:42] <rbalint> thanks!
[17:05] <ahoneybun> any meeting today jose ?
[17:05] <ahoneybun> elacheche, ?