[00:19] <bluesabre> :)
[00:19] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/18.04.3
[00:28] <Unit193> bluesabre: You didn't adapt the packaging to account for the issue listed above?
[00:29] <bluesabre> uh
[00:30] <bluesabre> didn't realize there was a change needed
[00:31] <Unit193> \o/
[00:33] <bluesabre> Is there? :D
[00:34] <Unit193> There was discussion about the icon cache, yeah.
[00:34] <bluesabre> oh
[00:37] <bluesabre> And still not sure what the patch should be :D
[00:39] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/3.22.7-0ubuntu1
[00:56] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [bionic] r333 Update elementary-xfce to 0.11 (by Sean Davis)
[00:56] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [bionic] r334 Release 18.04.3 (by Sean Davis)
[00:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, so dh_icons finds the icon themes and adds a call to update-icon-caches, except 'darkest' contains symlinks rather than the files it knows to expect, thus a problem.  One would add a call to the maintainer scripts for darkest.
[00:57] <Unit193> I didn't see anything in dh_icons you could add to just include the dir.
[00:59] <Unit193> Specifically, postinst and postrm.
[01:15] <bluesabre> So, should just need postinst then? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WRQRmvy9Sp/
[01:17] <Unit193> No.
[01:17] <Unit193> postrm too.
[01:18] <Unit193> You should really guard that..
[01:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: Just copy from the generated version?
[01:18] <bluesabre> would you remove the cache file then?
[01:19] <bluesabre> or just try generating in case it's there
[01:19] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/708391
[01:20] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/708392 install version.
[01:26] <Unit193> Gah, let me be slightly more clear.  That's the existing postinst and postrm versions as they stand, generated.
[01:28] <bluesabre> gotcha
[01:40] <bluesabre> Unit193: so https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/bionic/revision/335 should be the complete patch, right?
[01:41] <Unit193> ...Well I guess that's one way to do it, sure.
[01:41] <bluesabre> :(
[01:58] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [bionic] r335 Generate icon theme caches for all included icon themes (by Sean Davis)
[01:58] <Unit193> Hmm?
[06:34] <Unit193> I know what I was supposed to do today.
[06:39] <flocculant> lucky you 
[06:39] <flocculant> I usually find out too late 
[06:50] <Unit193> "The community based [Xubuntu core|https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/] ISOs can be downloaded from the [contributor's site|linkie]  perhaps?
[08:06] <ochosi_> crap. i guess i just lost some more irssi history...
[08:10] <ochosi_> (read up on the irc log)
[08:15] <Unit193> Shouldn't have, run of the mill netsplit, then you showed up with a tail.
[08:42] <Unit193> ochosi_: You happen to know what doesn't show up if indicators aren't enabled/working on lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[09:48] <bluesabre> Unit193: for us, nothing... we only use the greeter's native "indicators"
[09:49] <Unit193> Gah..
[09:49] <Unit193> Is there some way to test this?
[09:50] <bluesabre> indicators = power
[09:50] <bluesabre> and install indicator-power
[09:50] <bluesabre> vs indicators = ~power (which is the native indicator)
[09:52] <Unit193> Cool, will do.
[09:52] <bluesabre> keep in mind that I haven't tested the indicator support in years :)
[09:56] <Unit193> Well crap, I wanted to make sure linking against the new indicators didn't give regressions. :P
[09:56] <Unit193> It builds, ldd agrees... :P
[09:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Snagged the new whisker the other night.
[10:01] <Unit193> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/+git/ubuntu-mate-artwork/tree/etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/99_ubuntu-mate.conf they don't either.
[10:02] <bluesabre> Unit193: yeah, it may be a completely unused feature
[10:02] <bluesabre> Unless some users use it
[10:52] <bluesabre> the new xfce4-terminal no longer drops down correctly when bound to a keyboard shortcut
[10:53] <bluesabre> bind F12 to: `xfce4-terminal --drop-down` to check
[10:54] <Unit193> I launched that directly and got two tray icons.
[10:54] <Unit193> Now, which "new" one?
[10:55] <Unit193> 0.8.7.2?
[10:55] <bluesabre> yeah, that one
[10:55] <bluesabre> latest packaged one
[10:55] <bluesabre> switched to guake this morning in the interim
[10:55] <bluesabre> I depend on that functionality :)
[10:56] <Unit193> Uh oh.
[10:59] <bluesabre> gnome 3.28 apps and libraries started landing in today's iso, https://wiki.bluesabre.org/bionic_changes?do=diff&rev2%5B0%5D=1521625095&rev2%5B1%5D=1521716290&difftype=sidebyside
[10:59] <bluesabre> gstreamer too it seems
[11:00] <bluesabre> updateed cheese might affect mugshot
[11:04] <Unit193> Why the new indicator libs?
[11:06] <bluesabre> "Have -dev package depend on libgtk2.0-dev or libgk-3-dev according to its pkgconfig file (LP: #1757574) (LP: #1757574)"
[11:08] <Unit193> I may have made a change, yeah.  That's just header packages though (I did not write that commit.)
[11:08] <Unit193> Also you didn't even look! https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-terminal/commit/?id=2f6db7f83c6db2e12e76ebb4a75ff1bd3eea38cf
[11:09] <bluesabre> aha
[11:09] <bluesabre> yay
[11:10] <bluesabre> huh
[11:10] <bluesabre> jbicha's "t" key seems to be going out
[11:10] <bluesabre> "libgk-3-dev"
[11:10] <bluesabre> and in debian unstable, glib2 depends on python-distuils :)
[11:11] <Unit193> I saw some people unhappy about that, yeah.  Didn't bother reading what the annoyance was about this time though. :3
[11:12] <Unit193> https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/glib2.0/news/20180322T105208Z.html
[11:12] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/893773
[11:12] <bluesabre> mhm
[11:12] <bluesabre> blocking my menulibre upload :)
[11:12] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://packages.qa.debian.org/liba/libayatana-appindicator/news/20180322T105237Z.html ? :3
[11:13] <Unit193> "Oh, you get around" :3
[18:41] <FurretUber> I've updated Xubuntu 18.04 and now the icons from the gtk windows are strange. Gedit example: https://i.imgur.com/5JzSJf1.png Theme: Adwaita Dark
[18:43] <FurretUber> The only themes with proper icons are Greybird and Breeze/Breeze Dark, all other have the minimize icon as a download button
[18:48] <FurretUber> I have tested on Ubuntu and this have not happened
[20:32] <ali1234> FurretUber: that's gtk3 right?
[20:38] <ali1234> hmm yes i see that too
[20:40] <ali1234> to reproduce: theme: anything other than greybird, icon theme: elementary xfce
[20:43] <ali1234> FurretUber: do you have any idea when it started happening?
[20:51] <FurretUber> ali1234: Yes. Today, 6 hours ago I updated the system and xubuntu-icon-theme was updated
[20:53] <ali1234> what did you update from?
[20:56] <FurretUber> I think I haven't understood the question. I was using Xubuntu 18.04, opened synaptic, reloaded the repositories and chose to update the packages
[20:57] <flocculant> ali1234: have iso from the 21st - all looks ok there
[20:57] <ali1234> so do i
[20:57] <ali1234> actually mine is a bit older
[20:58] <flocculant> I have a handful from March - keep a month locally of when I've zsynced the ios
[21:00] <ali1234> well there was indeed a xubuntu-icon-theme update yesterday
[21:00] <ali1234> * Update elementary-xfce to v0.11
[21:04] <flocculant> ochosi_ bluesabre ^^ best undo what we did there :)
[21:05] <ondondil> I can confirm. Download button instead of minimize. Up to date ISO from beta release. Icon theme: elementary-xfce-darker
[21:05] <ali1234> diffing the source now
[21:06] <ali1234> xubuntu-artwork/usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-darkest/actions/symbolic/window-new-symbolic.svg changed... a lot
[21:07] <ali1234> it looks like all the svg files have been super mangled
[21:07] <ali1234> i can't tell if it is intentional
[21:10] <ali1234> for example http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wDX2Trk6sS/
[21:11] <knome> that almost looks like a plain, cleaned up SVG instead of an inkscape SVG with a lot of unused stuff (without seeing the visual changes this does)
[21:12] <ali1234> i agree... but it is suspiciously short imo
[21:12] <ali1234> it looks like someone tried to clean it and cleaned it too much...
[21:12] <knome> yeah, don't know
[21:13] <knome> what does the SVG look like?
[21:14] <ali1234> well
[21:14] <ali1234> the old one looks like how you'd expect the minimize button to look
[21:14] <ali1234> the new one is the download icon that everyone is seeing
[21:14] <knome> right
[21:14] <knome> maybe that's intentional though
[21:14] <ali1234> why only gtk3 though?
[21:14] <knome> but i was merely asking if the SVG looks like... a real vector
[21:15] <ali1234> oh yes the svg appears to be valid
[21:15] <knome> aren't those icons drawn by xfwm with gtk2?
[21:15] <ali1234> xfwm draws the theme
[21:15] <knome> yes, and the buttons too
[21:15] <knome> with gtk2
[21:15] <knome> afaik...
[21:15] <ali1234> yes, but it draws them according to how the theme tells it to
[21:16] <knome> yep
[21:16] <knome> the xfwm theme, not the icon theme :)
[21:16] <ali1234> well the thing is
[21:17] <ali1234> you only see these icons in gtk3 if you dont use the xubuntu theme (greybird)
[21:17] <knome> right
[21:17] <ali1234> so it seems weird for this to be intentional
[21:17] <knome> so one could say this is a bug with all themes except greybird...
[21:18] <ali1234> every theme except greybird and also every icon theme except elementary xfce
[21:18] <knome> ;)
[21:18] <ali1234> and also if you use both of those at the same time that is also bugged :)
[21:18] <knome> you really should get ochosi_ to appear magically
[22:03] <Unit193> bluesabre: Congrats on menulibre.
[22:04] <knome> !conga-rats
[22:23] <bluesabre> :)
[22:24] <bluesabre> so, what's the issue?
[22:25] <knome> dunno, but i'm out ;)
[22:25] <bluesabre> the minimize button doesn't seem minimizey enough?
[22:25] <knome> see you later
[22:25] <bluesabre> oh
[22:25] <bluesabre> seeya knome
[22:26] <bluesabre> so the icon changes if it's not greybird + elementary-xfce
[22:26] <bluesabre> I don't know where to begin with that, doesn't seem like a normal thing for the toolkit to do
[22:27] <bluesabre> I don't know that I'd call that a download icon though
[22:27] <bluesabre> ochosi_: any ideas?
[23:39] <bluesabre> Shocked and pleasantly surprised to see the spotify snap integrates with mpris :)
[23:44] <bluesabre> and running as a snap doesn't seem to break the wnck integration or anything
[23:44] <bluesabre> :)
[23:55] <ali1234> is it classic mode though?