[03:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (xenial-proposed/universe) [17.03.2-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 17.03.2-0ubuntu3~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[04:00] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Finished my last round of initial triaging of the Qt 4 bugs; https://is.gd/pRDB9o should be good now for a while.
[04:04] <slangasek> doko: ocrmypdf> your 5.5-2ubuntu1 didn't show much in the way of test failures because tesseract-ocr and ghostscript were missing from the build-dependencies... I added them and now I see what you mean (and regretted having done so).  Do you think it's better that I upload this package with this horrible testsuite that leaves dozens of tesseract processes spinning and eating CPU, or just leave
[04:04] <slangasek> it as-is?
[04:22] <slangasek> tsimonq2: will someone update the kubuntu seeds to drop ksaneplugin from 'supported'?
[04:34] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I don't have access myself, but yes.
[04:40] <tsimonq2> slangasek: processing> Many thanks.
[04:42]  * slangasek nods
[04:42] <slangasek> now I move on to debugging node-mapnik autopkgtest failures, and am reminded that the quoting rules for debian/tests/control are both undocumented and terrible
[04:50]  * tsimonq2 doesn't want to have my name on nodejs anymore, make it go awaaaaaaaaaaay
[04:50] <tsimonq2> :)
[04:50] <tsimonq2> I mean, I'll follow through with this one, but... :/
[05:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: choqok [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1] (no packageset)
[05:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: choqok [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1] (no packageset)
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[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: choqok [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1] (no packageset)
[05:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: choqok [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1] (no packageset)
[05:19] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Can you please RM src:gcompris? Scott K just removed from Debian, Debian bug 893464
[05:22] <tsimonq2> slangasek: (For future ref, does following Debian on package removals even when the package has a delta need a bug?)
[05:39] <slangasek> tsimonq2: generally no bug needed, as long as I can figure out that the package isn't being maintained in Ubuntu
[05:39] <tsimonq2> slangasek: OK cool.
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [s390x] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted choqok [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1.6-1.isreally.1.6-2.1]
[05:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted virtualbox-hwe [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.2.8-dfsg-5ubuntu18.04.1]
[05:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[06:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [i386] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[06:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [i386] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: puma [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted puma [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.0-1ubuntu3]
[06:27] <slangasek> tsimonq2: on the nodejs front, is node-tape anything that's on your radar? Debian bug #893337
[06:28] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ah, I hadn't seen that; thanks.
[06:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: virtualbox-hwe [i386] (bionic-proposed/multiverse) [5.2.8-dfsg-5ubuntu18.04.1] (no packageset)
[06:29] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Is that already badtested?
[06:29] <slangasek> tsimonq2: it is not.
[06:29] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Do you plan on badtesting it?
[06:29] <slangasek> the version in -proposed has regressed the tess
[06:29] <tsimonq2> Ah.
[06:29] <slangasek> no
[06:29] <tsimonq2> Gotcha.
[06:30] <slangasek> (I plan on removing it from -proposed, if no one cares about it)
[06:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[06:31] <tsimonq2> My vote is do it .
[06:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [armhf] (bionic-proposed/main) [0.31.0.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[06:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: virtualbox-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed/multiverse) [5.2.8-dfsg-5ubuntu18.04.1] (no packageset)
[06:37] <slangasek> tsimonq2: done.
[06:38] <tsimonq2> slangasek: cool
[06:59] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Can I please get "force-badtest node-class-utils/0.3.5-1" added to hints? It's regressed in release: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/node-class-utils
[07:04] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[07:27] <tsimonq2> General note: sbuild should migrate now with this new upload.
[07:34] <acheronuk> slangasek: ksaneplugin removed from Kubuntu supported
[07:34] <slangasek> acheronuk: cheers
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pyxs [source] (artful-proposed) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~17.10.0]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pyxs [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~16.04.0]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pyxs [amd64] (artful-proposed/none) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~17.10.0] (no packageset)
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pyxs [amd64] (xenial-proposed/none) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~16.04.0] (no packageset)
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pyxs [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~17.10.0]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pyxs [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [0.4.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~16.04.0]
[10:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rax-nova-agent [source] (artful-proposed) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~17.10.0]
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rax-nova-agent [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~16.04.0]
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rax-nova-agent [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~17.10.0] (no packageset)
[10:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rax-nova-agent [amd64] (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~16.04.0] (no packageset)
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rax-nova-agent [amd64] (artful-proposed) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~17.10.0]
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rax-nova-agent [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2~16.04.0]
[11:23] <cjwatson> slangasek: I guess I should technically ask for a feature freeze exception for versioned Provides support in germinate?  Though I've just deployed it on nusakan and I'm not sure changing it in the distro is risky by comparison :)
[11:25] <sil2100> cjwatson: I guess it would be good to have that documented with an FFe ;)
[11:26] <cjwatson> sil2100: repurposing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/germinate/+bug/1758004 for that then
[11:26] <cjwatson> I've diffed full germinate output before and after that change and confirmed that every resulting difference is correct
[11:27] <cjwatson> (basically python{,3}-cffi-backend, some e2fsprogs transitional library packages dropping out, and some espeak packages dropping out because espeak-ng is now sufficient)
[11:28] <cjwatson> (the last doesn't affect images, only extra output)
[11:36] <sil2100> cjwatson: I approved the FFe o/ Thanks!
[11:37] <sil2100> (oh well formallities)
[11:38] <cjwatson> thank you
[14:53] <LocutusOfBorg> jamespage, hello, can you please do a python-msgpack/msgpack-python switch and merge from debian?
[14:54] <LocutusOfBorg> I can do it, but I have no way of testing the work
[14:54] <LocutusOfBorg> see https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-msgpack/news/20180323T133924Z.html
[14:54] <LocutusOfBorg> and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=893844
[15:00] <LocutusOfBorg> jamespage, something like that https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/8875622/+listing-archive-extra
[15:00] <LocutusOfBorg> even if renaming the package makes my brain segfault for upgrade path
[15:01] <jamespage> LocutusOfBorg: yes but won't be today...
[15:03] <LocutusOfBorg> I can do it, I'm already testing the upgrade path
[15:04] <LocutusOfBorg> that packaging should provide msgpack and python-msgpack so we should be safe
[15:04] <LocutusOfBorg> but in case, I would like to do a no-change rebuild of reverse-deps to be safe
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntu-wallpapers [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [18.04.0-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.39.3+really2.35 => 2.40] (no packageset)
[15:59] <sergiusens> tjaalton: mind accepting ^
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: python-msgpack (bionic-proposed/primary) [0.5.4-0ubuntu2]
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xdg-user-dirs (xenial-proposed/main) [0.15-2ubuntu6 => 0.15-2ubuntu6.16.04.1] (core)
[16:46] <tjaalton> sergiusens: where's artful?
[16:47] <sergiusens> tjaalton: coming soon
[16:47] <tjaalton> how soon :)
[16:48] <tjaalton> I'm practically EOW
[16:53] <sergiusens> 10'
[17:03] <sergiusens> tjaalton: done
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (artful-proposed/universe) [2.35+17.10 => 2.40+17.10] (no packageset)
[17:48] <sergiusens> slangasek: mind accepting snapcraft into -proposed please? I think I might have missed Timo and his EOW warning
[18:11] <slangasek> sergiusens: sure, I will look at it
[18:16] <sergiusens> thank you very much
[18:17] <slangasek> sergiusens: you're wanting to land this in -proposed before the current one is released to -updates?
[18:19] <sergiusens> slangasek: if that is artful, yes, please pop 2.35+17.10  out of circulation; it will not even work on artful
[18:19] <slangasek> ok
[18:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (artful-proposed) [2.40+17.10]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: python-certbot-dns-cloudflare (bionic-proposed/primary) [0.22.0-1]
[19:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (artful-proposed/main) [2:11.0.3-0ubuntu1 => 2:11.0.3-0ubuntu1.1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: python-certbot-dns-dnsimple (bionic-proposed/primary) [0.22.0-1]
[19:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: python-certbot-dns-digitalocean (bionic-proposed/primary) [0.22.0-1]
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[19:05] <tjaalton> slangasek: re nss-pem; the pkg I uploaded merges src:nss source in it, but maybe it would be best to do the other way round instead (nss-pem is <100k unpacked), though that might end up being a permanent diff to debian since I doubt mike would accept that either..
[19:06] <tjaalton> "talk to upstream.." (which finally rejected it some years ago)
[19:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.40]
[19:23] <slangasek> tjaalton: hey, so, I was surprised when you said that was how you were handling nss-pem; I think duplicating the source of such a security-sensitive codebase as nss is not a great option
[19:23] <slangasek> tjaalton: I understand that you can't use the existing nss package because the libraries/headers are not made public by the Debian maintainer
[19:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (xenial-proposed/main) [2:8.4.0-0ubuntu7.1 => 2:8.4.0-0ubuntu7.2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:24] <slangasek> tjaalton: but I don't understand why we're considering that decision by the Debian maintainer binding for what Ubuntu does.  Why do we not take a decision to support these as public interfaces, regardless of what Debian has decided, and carry a delta?
[19:25] <slangasek> it's not like we're creating our own shared libraries here... upstream is already shipping shared libraries, they just aren't shipped in /usr/lib
[19:44] <tjaalton> slangasek: well nss-pem needs static libs, of non-public interfaces that haven't changed in many years
[19:45] <tjaalton> sure we can carry a delta, if that's ok. but would that be packaging the headers/static libs on a separate package as proposed?
[19:47] <tjaalton> feel free to drop current nss-pem and I'll create a proper one, and can upload nss too with the new pkg
[19:51] <tjaalton> slangasek: put something in bug #1751140 so that it's not lost :)
[19:53] <slangasek> tjaalton: oh, these are interfaces that are currently not exposed at all in any of the shared objects, including those in /usr/lib/nss?
[20:00] <tjaalton> not all no
[20:04] <tjaalton> nssb can't be shared or there would be a circular dep
[20:08] <slangasek> ok
[20:08] <slangasek> let me ponder a bit more then
[20:10] <tjaalton> i might have more in emails from the redhat folks, need to check later..
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lttng-modules [source] (artful-proposed) [2.9.0-1ubuntu3.2]
[20:26] <tjaalton> slangasek: there's one thing though that might help with the decision; redhat is actively replacing nss with openssl, but certmonger hasn't been ported yet but it will be, at some point
[20:27] <tjaalton> so, could be the path of least effort is to provide only freeipa-client in the archive, and I'll put the rest in a ppa
[20:27] <slangasek> tjaalton: well, if you choose to withdraw this from the archive, that certainly spares me from having to make any decision, true ;)
[20:28] <tjaalton> just need to advise folks doing upgrades to enable the ppa
[20:29] <slangasek> I don't think there's any obligation that you do this
[20:29] <slangasek> I hate to encourage use of ppas
[20:29] <tjaalton> well, for freeipa-server users..
[20:29] <slangasek> and would rather figure out the right way to accept nss-pem
[20:29] <tjaalton> sure
[20:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (artful-proposed) [2:11.0.3-0ubuntu1.1]
[20:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:8.4.0-0ubuntu7.2]
[21:11] <LocutusOfBorg> [18:33:42] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept python-msgpack, it follows the same renaming that Debian did
[21:11] <LocutusOfBorg> [18:33:49] <LocutusOfBorg> msgpack-python -> python-msgpack
[21:11] <LocutusOfBorg> [18:33:54] <LocutusOfBorg> there aren't new binaries
[23:29] <tsimonq2> infinity: Did you have any luck figuring out the critical Lubuntu install bug?
[23:29] <tsimonq2> infinity: If not, might you have notes so I can take a look?
[23:33] <slangasek> tsimonq2: pointer to this?
[23:34] <tsimonq2> sec
[23:36] <tsimonq2> slangasek: bug 1754174
[23:36] <slangasek> ah that one's still around?
[23:37] <tsimonq2> I guess so
[23:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-defaults-ports [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.175ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[23:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-defaults-ports [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.175ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)