mup | Bug #1758465 opened: snapd doesn't upgrade on bionic when a local installed snap mount is failing <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758465> | 00:09 |
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mup | PR snapd#4858 closed: strutil, cmd/snap: drop strutil.WordWrap, first pass at replacement <Created by chipaca> <Merged by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4858> | 00:59 |
mup | Bug #1741486 changed: failed snap try leaves snap symlink around <Snappy:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741486> | 04:20 |
mup | PR snapd#4882 closed: snap: make `snap run` look at the system-key for security profiles <Critical> <Squash-merge> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4882> | 07:04 |
mup | PR snapd#4924 opened: snap: make `snap run` look at the system-key for security profiles (#… <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4924> | 07:12 |
mup | PR core#86 opened: hooks: create compat copy of /lib/udev/snappy-app-dev <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/86> | 07:44 |
mup | PR core#86 closed: hooks: create compat copy of /lib/udev/snappy-app-dev <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/86> | 07:45 |
pedronis | mvo: zyga: I'm a bit confused, it seems account-control expects files to be already present in /var/lib/extrausers but in our tests they are just because of a hack | 08:28 |
mup | PR snapd#4924 closed: snap: make `snap run` look at the system-key for security profiles (2.32) <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4924> | 08:32 |
pedronis | if I tweak the hack I get: useradd: cannot open /var/lib/extrausers/passwd | 08:33 |
pedronis | it's not a confinement issue btw, useradd --extrausers alice as root also gives the same | 08:37 |
mup | PR snapd#4925 opened: tests: fix snap-run tests when snapd is not running <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4925> | 08:59 |
mup | PR snapd#4926 opened: tests: fix snap-run tests when snapd is not running <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4926> | 09:00 |
thresh | hello. how do I debug why stage-packages: pulls in packages that I don't see installed when I do apt-get install for that list? | 10:10 |
thresh | I see some packages that should not be there | 10:11 |
thresh | found --debug, let me see if that helps... | 10:12 |
mborzecki | zyga: hi, you around? | 10:16 |
mborzecki | zyga: there's a hackathon at GOG office in May, want to show them how make snaps? https://www.gog.com/hackathon | 10:17 |
mup | PR snapd#4925 closed: tests: fix snap-run tests when snapd is not running (2.32) <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4925> | 10:19 |
zyga | Hi mborzecki | 10:28 |
zyga | Ooohhh | 10:28 |
zyga | Thanks | 10:28 |
zyga | Wanna come? | 10:29 |
mborzecki | zyga: i'm interested for sure, don't know yet if i will be able to go, probably will know more mid-april, registration closes on may 7, so we still have some time | 10:36 |
bulld | hi | 10:36 |
zyga | We could snap gog games | 10:37 |
bulld | am building my app with qt5.7.1 and later am going to snap pack it, how can i use my local qt5.7.1 toolkit to build in snapcraft file | 10:37 |
zyga | I’ll register us back home | 10:37 |
zyga | bulld: hey, I’m not sure but it’s possible for sure. | 10:38 |
zyga | Did you check on the forum? Maybe someone did this already | 10:38 |
bulld | i build qt5.7.1's webengine myself with codecs support so i need it to build/ship the binary am using in snap package | 10:39 |
thresh | so I've ran two snapcraft --debug prime runs, and it seems like the behaviour is inconsistent: https://thre.sh/stuff/snapcraft-different-packages-staged.diff.txt | 10:39 |
bulld | okay @zyga i will check | 10:39 |
thresh | any idea how to make sure snapcraft works the same between different runs? | 10:39 |
* zyga is a snapd hacker and builds snaps less frequently than others | 10:40 | |
thresh | e.g. you can see it fetches libvlc5 in one case and not in the other | 10:40 |
zyga | And when I do I build weird snaps that use new features | 10:40 |
bulld | @zyga :) | 10:40 |
zyga | Speaking of which, I have some cool snap demo to publish | 10:41 |
zyga | But first family time with my daughter :-) | 10:41 |
bulld | hmm :) | 10:42 |
bulld | my snap installation is broken somehow cannot install any snap package local or from store. getting some apparmor errors | 10:55 |
bulld | am using ubuntu 16.04 | 10:55 |
mup | PR snapcraft#2024 closed: errors: improve the UX for sending error data <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2024> | 10:57 |
bulld | i already posted details of errors am getting in snapcraft forums https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/unable-to-install-snap-from-store-or-loallay/4629 | 11:02 |
zyga | bulld: can you give me more details | 11:08 |
zyga | Snap version | 11:08 |
zyga | And the errors you are seeing | 11:08 |
bulld | i provided everything in the forum link in my previous msg | 11:09 |
bulld | https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/unable-to-install-snap-from-store-or-loallay/4629 | 11:09 |
zyga | Ok | 11:10 |
zyga | Thanks | 11:10 |
zyga | I’ll check that later today | 11:22 |
bulld | okay ty | 11:27 |
mup | PR snapd#4927 opened: release 2.32 <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4927> | 11:55 |
pedronis | zyga: I think I know how to disentangle the etc mess, was confused for a bit by writable-paths (surprise) | 12:02 |
zyga | Ha | 12:02 |
zyga | I sent a PR that looks for the damage | 12:02 |
zyga | There are some tests that need fixes | 12:02 |
pedronis | zyga: well, it's no the tests | 12:03 |
pedronis | is the prepare stuff that does very strange stuff | 12:04 |
pedronis | (in hindsight) | 12:04 |
pedronis | zyga: we basically run the tests with /etc/passwd being a bind mount of /var/lib/extrausers/passwd | 12:04 |
pedronis | that makes little sense conceptually | 12:04 |
zyga | Why do we do that’s | 12:05 |
zyga | Note that would not break the mimic code | 12:05 |
pedronis | zyga: well we do need to bind mount something on /etc/passwd | 12:05 |
zyga | It is this with combination of some unfortunate rm -rf | 12:05 |
pedronis | afair | 12:05 |
pedronis | sorry | 12:05 |
pedronis | afaiu | 12:05 |
pedronis | but making it /var/lib/extrausers/passwd | 12:06 |
pedronis | adds to the confusion | 12:06 |
pedronis | because then some other code will modify it | 12:06 |
pedronis | zyga: it doesn't seem to be a rm -rf , more some cases of sed -i | 12:06 |
pedronis | but I bit unclear exactly how (I don't get that effect playing locally with sed -i) | 12:06 |
zyga | Interesting | 12:07 |
zyga | I think sed would not cause that | 12:07 |
zyga | Kernel code indicates that dentry must be removed | 12:07 |
zyga | So more like the parent directory | 12:07 |
pedronis | zyga: anyway having etc/passwd === extrausers/passwd doesn't make sense | 12:07 |
pedronis | conceptually | 12:07 |
zyga | I agree | 12:07 |
pedronis | zyga: I think we need to bind mount /etc/passwd because we need to put there the spread root user | 12:08 |
pedronis | afaiu | 12:08 |
zyga | Cannot we use extra users for that? | 12:08 |
pedronis | zyga: no, that's the problem | 12:08 |
pedronis | root cannot be in extrausers | 12:08 |
pedronis | because the one in /etc/passwed wins | 12:08 |
zyga | Ah, I see | 12:09 |
pedronis | so we need a bind mount | 12:09 |
pedronis | but no reason to do this bind mount | 12:09 |
pedronis | (is super confusing in various ways) | 12:09 |
pedronis | also it means that when we test extrausers stuff | 12:09 |
pedronis | (which is important) | 12:09 |
zyga | Well | 12:09 |
pedronis | we really test nonsense | 12:09 |
zyga | At the very least I know how to improve mimic code | 12:09 |
zyga | But our test environment is in a very broken state | 12:10 |
pedronis | zyga: anywy I can propose a change that doesn't have any /etc //deleted mounts at least | 12:10 |
pedronis | anymore | 12:10 |
pedronis | and also untangle a bit that confusion | 12:10 |
pedronis | I don't know if it's enough to not confused layout | 12:10 |
pedronis | but is a step | 12:10 |
zyga | Because all those //deleted mount points are broken | 12:10 |
pedronis | yea | 12:10 |
zyga | I will check kernel code | 12:10 |
pedronis | no more of those | 12:11 |
pedronis | with my change | 12:11 |
pedronis | I mean for etc | 12:11 |
zyga | But I’m worried that such deleted mount points cannot be the target of a mount call | 12:11 |
pedronis | we have some for try snaps afaict | 12:11 |
zyga | Because they no longer exist conceptually | 12:11 |
pedronis | zyga: ? | 12:11 |
pedronis | zyga: so? | 12:11 |
zyga | It’s a detached inode | 12:11 |
pedronis | zyga: as I said I fixed the //deleted bit | 12:11 |
zyga | So mount with that as a target will always fail | 12:11 |
zyga | So what can we | 12:11 |
zyga | Do? | 12:11 |
pedronis | is that a problem? | 12:12 |
zyga | Yes | 12:12 |
zyga | The mimic is broker | 12:12 |
zyga | Broker | 12:12 |
pedronis | I mean do you think it will happen in practice? | 12:12 |
zyga | Broken | 12:12 |
zyga | No | 12:12 |
zyga | But we must handle that in tests | 12:12 |
pedronis | ? | 12:12 |
zyga | In reality it will not happen | 12:12 |
pedronis | if there are no //deleted | 12:12 |
pedronis | anymore | 12:12 |
pedronis | there's nothing to handle | 12:12 |
pedronis | I made changes such that there are no more //deleted | 12:13 |
pedronis | I think I said that a couple fo times | 12:13 |
zyga | But I don’t want to fail tests 30% of the time because of that | 12:13 |
zyga | Oh | 12:14 |
pedronis | ? | 12:14 |
zyga | Cool | 12:14 |
zyga | Can you merge my patch from a later pr that detects dangling //deleted please? | 12:14 |
pedronis | zyga: I used your patch | 12:14 |
pedronis | as a baseline | 12:14 |
pedronis | otherwise how would I know | 12:14 |
pedronis | that there no //deleted | 12:14 |
zyga | Ah perfect | 12:15 |
pedronis | to be clear I'm talking about /etc here | 12:15 |
pedronis | there are some tests using try | 12:15 |
pedronis | that live //deleted around | 12:15 |
pedronis | not sure it's an issue or not | 12:15 |
zyga | I see | 12:15 |
zyga | I can review that next week and try to eliminate them | 12:15 |
* zyga is very much afk | 12:17 | |
mborzecki | updated snapd to 2.32 in AUR | 13:12 |
mup | PR snapd#4922 closed: overlord/configstate: change how ssh is stopped/started (#4912) <Created by mvo5> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4922> | 15:07 |
pedronis | ok, my change seems to do what I wanted (there was a further subtle detail, but I think I have a fix) | 15:27 |
mup | PR snapd#4928 opened: tests: disentangle etc vs extrausers <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4928> | 15:54 |
pedronis | zyga: ^ | 15:56 |
zyga | Thank you. I will return home soon and review it | 15:56 |
zyga | Did you find this by reading the strace from last night? | 15:57 |
pedronis | zyga: no, I just assumed that /etc/group being //deleted would be the source of the problem? | 15:59 |
pedronis | zyga: anyway I tried to run those account tets and layout together and layout passes | 15:59 |
pedronis | with this change | 15:59 |
zyga | Thank you so much! | 16:03 |
zyga | My question about the strace was motivated by wanting to see if there was anything else fishy there | 16:04 |
zyga | I will review it in the evening | 16:04 |
pedronis | zyga: anyway as I explain in the PR, this is a saner change because what we did would make our /var/lib//extrausers not very realistic | 16:05 |
pedronis | because /etc/passwd would also contain the stuff | 16:06 |
pedronis | etc | 16:06 |
pedronis | zyga: rechecked, on master if one runs ubuntu-core-create-user just before layout the latter fails with the /etc issue | 16:16 |
zyga | Great find! But I also managed to fail it by running just layout with -repeat 2 | 16:17 |
pedronis | that is stranger | 16:18 |
zyga | But that was against core 16 | 16:19 |
zyga | So I thought the suite restore is buggy | 16:19 |
pedronis | this is a core only problem btw | 16:19 |
pedronis | we don't do this strange things on classic | 16:19 |
zyga | It would fail on 2nd try | 16:19 |
zyga | I hope so. I think we saw layout failures in classic too | 16:20 |
zyga | But perhaps older codebase | 16:20 |
pedronis | well it might be that layout breaks layout | 16:20 |
pedronis | in some cases | 16:20 |
pedronis | are the threspassing fixes merged? | 16:20 |
zyga | No but they cannot affect this | 16:21 |
pedronis | also linode and google are different because reuse vs not | 16:22 |
zyga | Trespassing bug means we leave empty regular file, directory or symlink | 16:22 |
pedronis | that also changed | 16:22 |
zyga | Ah, good point | 16:22 |
pedronis | grumble | 17:04 |
mup | PR snapd#4926 closed: tests: fix snap-run tests when snapd is not running <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4926> | 17:22 |
pedronis | zyga: yes, that was my grumble, classic test is failing | 17:22 |
zyga | pedronis: I reviewed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4928 | 17:22 |
mup | PR #4928: tests: disentangle etc vs extrausers in core tests <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4928> | 17:22 |
zyga | ha | 17:23 |
pedronis | I think I know what to do | 17:23 |
pedronis | just annoying | 17:23 |
pedronis | I still need to create extrausers | 17:23 |
zyga | what is your plan? | 17:23 |
pedronis | just not bind it somewhere | 17:23 |
zyga | aha | 17:23 |
pedronis | zyga: basically we need the "test" user there | 17:23 |
pedronis | I'm testing the fix right now locally | 17:23 |
zyga | if we need it for just one test, perhaps we could do it there | 17:23 |
zyga | we can bind mount over /etc/passwd | 17:23 |
zyga | and restore that correctly | 17:23 |
pedronis | it doesn't need to be in /etc/passwd | 17:24 |
pedronis | it really needs to be in extrausers | 17:24 |
pedronis | because classic knows that's were core puts users | 17:24 |
pedronis | so it's the thing it copies inside | 17:24 |
zyga | ah, I see | 17:24 |
pedronis | as I said, I think I have a fix that should keep the rest of the sanity | 17:25 |
pedronis | trying it now | 17:25 |
zyga | cool, thank you | 17:25 |
zyga | I will play with the kernel, I have an idea on how to improve the error reporting for my sanity, at least | 17:25 |
zyga | just add some logging in places where kernel returns error on mount | 17:25 |
pedronis | zyga: fwiw is not sed -i that was ripping apart /var/extrausers/foo, it's useradd itself | 17:26 |
pedronis | I think | 17:26 |
zyga | I wrote a similar patch for pivot_root which has half a dozen reasons for EINVAL | 17:26 |
pedronis | it does atomic writes with renames | 17:26 |
pedronis | of stuff there | 17:26 |
zyga | ah, that's sensible, it would get a new inode and the old one would become //deleted | 17:26 |
zyga | kernel is "fun" | 17:27 |
pedronis | zyga: I pushed the fix | 17:34 |
zyga | lookng | 17:34 |
zyga | let | 17:38 |
zyga | let's see if it passes now | 17:39 |
pedronis | zyga: passed, I'll need a 2nd review on monday | 18:09 |
zyga | sounds very good | 18:09 |
cachio | zyga, is it gonna be a new 2.32? | 18:27 |
cachio | I am running beta validation for the current one | 18:27 |
zyga | cachio: no, I don't think so | 18:27 |
cachio | zyga, ah, ok, good news | 18:27 |
pedronis | it's a test only fix, we probably want it in 2.32.x if likely we need to do that, but should affect current 2.32 testing | 18:36 |
pedronis | *but shouldn't | 18:36 |
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