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ubptgbot<Eds_Mat> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/ENtvzldG.png03:09
ubptgbot<Eds_Mat> Telegram App ubports no working for me03:10
ubptgbotThinkDSP was added by: ThinkDSP04:09
ubptgbot<ThinkDSP> Hello everyone! So happy to find your community and glad to see that you keep working on Ubuntu touch! Soon will by a OnePlus one and flash a rom, do you think it's a good start?04:14
ubptgbot<ThinkDSP> And what about otg? Can I connect midi keyboard for example?04:17
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @ThinkDSP, Welcome, welcome ! Here is a quick link that will help you a lot: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome04:57
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @ThinkDSP, Sounds like you will want to join our Audio group.  :) no idea if this is possible... Are there bucktooth midi devices?04:58
ubptgbot<ThinkDSP> You mean Bluetooth? No actually my oxygen 49 and Novation Impulse 25 works well by the wire in otg mode on my redmi 405:06
ubptgbot<ThinkDSP> And how can I find audio group?  I really want to contribute and develop using Ubuntu touch for live music performance05:09
ubptgbotEmil Schweickerdt was added by: Emil Schweickerdt05:13
ubptgbot<Emil Schweickerdt> Hello all05:14
ubptgbot<Jo_Led> Welcome!05:21
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @ThinkDSP, Pm me and i will send when I wake up. Cant Find link on my UT right now :(05:54
ubptgbot<Liam> Just installed ubports had a play around, want to make a backup to come back to at a later date via twrp backup, but ubports recovery seems to have removed twrp, how do I get it back?05:54
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Emil Schweickerdt, https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome. Welcome ! This is a super useful link to get you started05:54
ubptgbot<Liam> thanks wayne05:55
ubptgbot<Liam> The welcome room seems to be a bit empty currently!05:57
ubptgbot<Direktor_Enzo> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/JukTC10W.png Nothing to do with UT but I just want to tell ya what I meant with the firefox07:31
ubptgbot<Siva Reddy> How can install Linux OS in android phone ?07:49
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Siva Reddy, Depends on your phone, it works only with ported phones07:53
ubptgbot<Siva Reddy> Thank you07:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> what phone do you have07:58
ubptgbot<tone36> @Flohack, I have nexus 4 how can I do it?08:43
ubptgbot<tone36> Ubports for windows ain't detect phone08:43
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> https://devices.ubports.com/#/08:44
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> nexus4 is in Experimental statut08:44
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> but you can test with that :08:45
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> https://devices.ubports.com/#/mako08:45
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> do you have any device with GNU/linux on it ?08:47
ubptgbot<Nikfrager> That's an old information. See http://ubuntu-touch.io/device/mako instead.09:09
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> @Nikfrager thanks I discover this site09:14
ubptgbot<Eranuzan> Do we have a standard for backgroud services? I could find it in the documentation09:23
ubptgbot<tone36> @aldolinux80, Nope right now...but i have multirom09:41
ubptgbot<tone36> @Nikfrager, The windows app not detecting phone09:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Eds_Mat, Did you install 16.04? UT Telegram does not support voice calls09:51
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> Hi09:56
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> If i want to install on Yureka phone09:56
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> Which is not listed09:56
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> How shall i do09:57
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @hawk_is_here, You can't install but in theory you could create a port10:04
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It has Cyanogen and a Qualcomm processor with 2Gb RAM, so it is not a crazy idea10:06
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Think at least six months of very difficult and frustrating work though. Much easier if somebody else was also interested in Yureka10:07
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> It was me itself 6 months ago also10:11
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> But had to go on an assignment10:11
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚10:11
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> So taking over the project again10:12
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> Yes10:12
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> The HW is pretty generic10:12
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> So i think it is possible10:12
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> Can you advice me some docs10:13
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> ?10:13
ubptgbotAcn0w was added by: Acn0w10:18
ubptgbot<Nikfrager> You can explore this https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html10:22
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> Thank you10:43
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @hawk_is_here, First step is to build Halium for it. For that, you should join the Halium group10:52
ubptgbot<Aury88> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/QUYwrPY3.png Merge-it 201811:02
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> cool, will slides be available somewhere ?11:05
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> I need also to prepare something for my local devs community ๐Ÿ˜Š now that i am engaged...11:06
ubptgbot<Aury88> @lduboeuf, I will ask to dario cavedon (the guy speaking)11:15
ubptgbot<Aury88> He will put the slides on slideshare11:28
ubptgbot<Direktor_Enzo> Funfact: With UT 16 my OPO dont charge the battery anymore. Got back to 1511:35
ubptgbot<AmolithSeregion> @Direktor_Enzo, If you don't mind, it would be wonderful if you could file a bug report it Github if that isn't already reported! ๐Ÿ™‚11:36
ubptgbot<Direktor_Enzo> Ill give it a try11:37
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> In 15.04 it charges again normally?11:42
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Please file a bug report, its very important. https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues11:43
ubptgbotAndreaussi was added by: Andreaussi11:43
ubptgbotLeJTA was added by: LeJTA11:52
ubptgbot<flakkv> @aldolinux80, 1โ˜บโ˜บ๐Ÿ˜—12:08
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hello Andrea and Jeatsa. If you would like to know more about UBports, look at โ€ฆ https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome12:18
ubptgbot<hawk_is_here> @Stereofont, Ok12:24
ubptgbot<Eds_Mat> @Stereofont, Yep13:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Eds_Mat, telegram app doesn't work on 16.04 yet, because of binary incompatibilities from 15.0413:53
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Liam, time zones....  gotta love them.14:18
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> Hi14:20
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> hello :)14:20
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> wher the BT files are stored?14:21
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> I  cant find them in the device14:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> what files?14:23
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> I'm transfering files via Bluetooth to my UT14:25
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> Some books14:26
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> But I cant find them14:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> oh, using an app on the phone?14:26
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> Yes the BT file transfer14:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> then probably in it's app directory. check under `~/.local/share/$appid/` where $appid is the correct value for that app (i don't know it off hand)14:32
ubptgbotDante Cรกrcamo was added by: Dante Cรกrcamo15:09
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Miguel Pires, This app? https://open-store.io/app/ubtd.mzanetti It seems it uses the content hub so the files are probably in .cache/ubtd.mzanetti/HubIncoming15:14
ubptgbot<tone36> Thanks to @Javacookies ...finally did it15:14
ubptgbot<tone36> On multi rom15:15
ubptgbot<advocatux> ๐ŸŽ‰15:15
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> thks15:18
ubptgbot<Miguel Pires> i find them :D15:18
ubptgbot<advocatux> In the place I said?15:18
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Miguel Pires, Where? The suspense is killing me! ๐Ÿ˜†15:22
ubptgbot<tone36> Got it15:23
ubptgbot<tone36> Ubuntu is starting15:23
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> Guys, I wanted to see convergence working. I don't have Bluetooth mouse/keyboard nor an external monitor. When I connect the device via Bluetooth to my laptop, should I expect anything working?15:28
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> @gsilvapt, i don't think so. I think that you should connect a mouse or a keyboard or screen to see any changes15:30
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, casting the screen via bluetooth would be much too slow... this is not really supported, there was a hack for miracast over WiFi15:31
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> @Flohack, I see, makes sense. How can I connect the device to the laptop and see convergence working? Or are we not at that stage yet?15:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Flohack, Even with high speed bt, it's not enough bandwidth. And that's via WiFi anyway15:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gsilvapt, What are you expecting to see there?15:36
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, You need a wifi dongle for this on the screen15:37
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> @dohbee, Simply convergence. Or a screen asking if I want to switch to the phone15:37
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> @Flohack, Seems like a good feature to implement using laptop's Bluetooth capability, no?15:38
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, No. Bt is. too. slow. Or you move your mouse and then wait a few seconds and then see where you pointed at ;)15:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gsilvapt, No, you can't plug a device into a laptop and use it as an external kb/mouse/display for that device15:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> the hardware doesn't work that way15:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUiEnTLFFdk15:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gsilvapt, "Convergence" is a very vague term, and by no means simple.15:41
ubptgbot<Flohack> thats what was officially working15:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you want to convert the phone into a laptop, what you'd need is a laptop-like shell, which is a slimport hub, that you insert the phone into15:43
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> @dohbee, I didn't mention plugging in alone but using Bluetooth. And by convergence I mean converting the phone to the desktop experience15:44
ubptgbot<gsilvapt> @Flohack, Thank you, I'll definitely watch that ๐Ÿ˜15:45
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> Hi guys. Here just for info related to Nexus5 users: โ€ฆ the original accu is working for round about 8 hours (normal using include). โ€ฆ Yesterday i changed to Polarcell-accu. Last charging was on 2 am. 15 hours later with 5 ours screen-on-time/using and bluetooth/wifi on it is by 22% .15:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gsilvapt, Well "plug" == "connect by some means"15:46
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/CW4SviXs.png15:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> not necessarily physical plug15:46
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/PUd8Xypp.png15:47
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, Let me test smth. I found this: "teaser": On the other hand, the Display-Sink side allows you to create wifi-capable external displays yourself. You can use it on your embedded devices or even on full desktops to allow other systems to use your device as external display.15:58
ubptgbot<Eds_Mat> @Waldbursche, Batery is good?16:12
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Eds_Mat, Yes. It's currently working for 16 hours to 22% (accordingly 20 hours to down). Working time / screen-on-time currently over 5 hours. โ€ฆ  The original battery was down after 8-10 hours.16:17
ubptgbot<Flohack> @gsilvapt, Can you test this for me: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1067/howto-flohack-s-special-convergence-use-a-simulated-miracast-sink-for-testing-convergence16:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> err, but you lose network connectivity via wifi then, no?16:49
ubptgbot<Flohack> yess16:58
ubptgbot<Flohack> Its only for showcasing whats possible, if ppl want to see convergence. Now working on a Windows solution ๐Ÿ˜†16:58
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @Waldbursche, Thanks! Despite having already replaced my Nexus5 battery (not with Polarcell), performance remained poor, and usually my battery depletes somehere in the afternoon. So, I am very interested in this battery.17:02
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @Waldbursche, I'm curious though whether my phone's battery usage is comparable to other Nexus5 phones. Executing "powerstat -d 5" learns me that mine uses (1.16 +/-   0.56) W, while disabling Cellular data, Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS, with all notification services off  and without any unsuspendable apps. This seems high,17:04
ubptgbotbut maybe it's normal? I'm on UBports stable v3. Does anybody else have figures to compare with?17:04
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @dad_and_alive, ... and without any apps running apart from Terminal17:05
ubptgbot<BlueKenny> @dad_and_alive, Mine give 0 +-0,   i think this isn't accurate17:14
ubptgbot<Javacookies> battery is quite bad on my Nexus 5 as well but it's 2nd hand so could be a factor as well17:21
ubptgbot<advocatux> Battery has always been bad in N5, even running Android. โ€ฆ Polarcell is 2450 mAh and the original LG battery is 2300 mAh17:26
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @BlueKenny, ๐Ÿ˜Š Too bad it's not negative, otherwise you could have coupled it to the electricity grid and made some money.17:27
ubptgbot<advocatux> ๐Ÿ˜‚17:28
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @advocatux, How does this small difference in power explain such big difference in battery depletion time?17:28
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @Javacookies, Mine is also second hand (and I guess many of us are in those conditions). How can the second hand state of a device change the energy consumption? Mind that I have put in a new replacement battery, to no avail.17:30
ubptgbot<advocatux> I don't know, maybe more capacity + better performance than the original one17:30
ubptgbot<wagafo> @advocatux, Or false reading, batter enery reading in UT sometimes is not very accurate18:02
ubptgbot<wagafo> @advocatux, [Edit] Or false reading, battery enery reading in UT sometimes is not very accurate18:02
ubptgbot<wagafo> @advocatux, [Edit] Or false reading, battery energy reading in UT sometimes is not very accurate18:02
ubptgbot<wagafo> And if this is not a standard battery this is not unlikely18:03
ubptgbot<dad_and_alive> @wagafo, Do you then mean the reading of the remaining capacity, or the output provided by powerstat?18:09
ubptgbot<wagafo> I don't know, just guessing18:10
ubptgbotMi Tra was added by: Mi Tra19:42
ubptgbot<Donreddy> How far ubports went for oneplus one..??20:12
ubptgbot<tijesef> Too far20:12
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Sorry I didn't installed yet.. confirmation before installing..20:13
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Lol20:13
ubptgbot<Donreddy> How far..bro20:13
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Which version20:13
ubptgbot<tijesef> @Donreddy, Latest20:13
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Yes20:14
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Latest..one20:14
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Is that supports sdcard mounting by default in filemanager20:15
ubptgbot<Donreddy> Is that fixed or unfixed still?20:15
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Donreddy, Hi, you can use UBports 15.04 (OTA-3) as a daily driver. That's the latest stable release.21:07
ubptgbot<advocatux> but keep in mind this https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1015/howto-opo-fix-mtp-driver-permissions21:07
ubptgbot<advocatux> and this https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1030/howto-change-the-name-of-your-device-for-bluetooth-pairing21:07
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Mi Tra, Hi Mi Tra, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started21:09
ubptgbot<Zack> Hi guys, is there any development ongoing for Ubuntu touch on the HTC 10?21:12
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Zack, Hi Zack, see https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/supplementary/devices/pme.html21:15
ubptgbot<advocatux> and notice the developers ๐Ÿ˜‰21:16
ubptgbot<Donreddy> @advocatux, ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š21:23
ubptgbot<Donreddy> And Android app supporting.. Anbox ? Bro21:24
ubptgbot<Zack> @advocatux, Thank you! I am a little bit a noob though ๐Ÿ˜… what is Halium port?21:24
ubptgbot<Zack> I see the following21:26
ubptgbot<Zack> (Photo, 453x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/10GvzGtY.png21:26
ubptgbot<Zack> Is this version of Ubuntu already ready to go for the device? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ21:27
ubptgbot<Zack> Someone ๐Ÿ˜…21:35
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Zack, https://halium.org/21:44
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Zack, No, is not ready as a daily driver yet. You can help to test it and find bugs though21:45
ubptgbot<Zack> All right! I want to buy the phone , but I so want to use Ubuntu on it ๐Ÿ˜ญ21:48
ubptgbot<Zack> That's why I was asking21:49
ubptgbot<Zack> Is there an expected time for when it would be possibly finalized?21:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> I have that phone21:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> Works good with Android21:50
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Zack, When is done (tm)21:51
ubptgbot<advocatux> Hey @mariogrip don't play with our feelings ๐Ÿ˜† โ€ฆ https://twitter.com/Mariogrip/status/97727465598693376021:56
ubptgbotSercan ERGฤฐN was added by: Sercan ERGฤฐN22:03
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Sercan ERGฤฐN, HI Sercan, don't forget to go to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome22:05
ubptgbot<Zack> @dohbee, Thanks Rodney for your reply! It seems like a pretty decent phone, is it worth its price?22:28
ubptgbot<Zack> @advocatux, Hahaha, well just let's wait and see then22:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> ๐Ÿ‘22:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Zack, The refiurb for $250 is worth it for sure22:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> Way better than the pixel for $80022:33
ubptgbot<Zack> Jeez, I can imagine for the price only22:33
ubptgbotCarlos was added by: Carlos22:40
ubptgbotMatAckermann was added by: MatAckermann22:51
ubptgbotMykola Suprun was added by: Mykola Suprun23:30
ubptgbot<XaviCarreraGimbert> (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/iM2s0S8n.webp23:30
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Carlos , @MatAckermann and  Mykola !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started23:33

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