[00:02] open question: what's a cool, low-hanging command-line utility that almost everyone with basic experience in linux would find useful? I'll start: tmux :) [00:06] royal_screwup21, rm -rf / [00:06] eh [00:07] codebot__, competitive programming? go to a prog lang support channel and try to answer a question faster than everyone else [00:07] do you remember seeing threy mounted some mans head and look like murdered him [00:08] so all language support channels are competitive programming channels :) [00:08] purple1, this is a support channel for Ubuntu. Please take that topic somewhere else [00:09] pragmaticenigma, you actually understood that? props [00:09] pragmaticenigma: why did updates show amdgpu in first glance then next update no amdgpu on an intelk gpu machine [00:09] Kumool: Do not pass that command even in jest . Danger . [00:09] Kumool: you should know that there might be beginners lurking around here. It's in in bad taste to throw out something like that [00:09] royal_screwup21, you cant run that anymore, at least not in linux [00:09] royal_screwup21, this channel is for supporting Ubuntu, not a polling place. If you would like to ask questions at large, try /join #ubuntu-offtopic [00:10] where is the advnced channel then? [00:10] royal_screwup21, you're better off going to #bash for that question :) (oh, and hey, that's a useful command... sorta) [00:11] purple1, your update question: if the machine has two GPUs detected it will install the drivers for both GPUs even if one of them is currently in use [00:11] Bashing-om, this is why theres a --no-preserve-root flag [00:11] it listed 3 amd drivers on an intel gpu machine === zenguy is now known as teaguy [00:12] then I checked the dmesg for gpu looked again and they were gone [00:12] is there an update server which has secure end to end [00:13] seems they spit out different things each check [00:13] purple1, I'm not sure. If you have a really, really, really new machine, Intel has been putting AMD GPUs in their CPUs... but I wasn't aware they're out on the market [00:13] old machine with intel gma [00:13] some intel gpu [00:14] supposedly old machine [00:14] sometimes it seems like they are predated though they are new [00:14] fake history [00:14] I don't know, purple1, I have never expereinced that issue with my machines before [00:15] how about a secure link to the security updates server [00:15] is it apt-get install apt-https [00:16] Ubuntu's package manager uses SSL/TLS encryption for all updates and connections to the update servers [00:16] is that new? [00:16] in the past it was http [00:16] standard debian apt [00:16] Ubuntu is not debian === teaguy is now known as zenguy [00:17] now that it looks like the update finished where is the log [00:17] go over what installed looking for the generic kernel update [00:17] then possibly recompile one's kernel [00:18] at least this xubuntu spin had broadcom drivers [00:18] purple1, to answer your question about package repos: https://askubuntu.com/questions/352952/are-repository-lists-secure-is-there-an-https-version [00:18] now for stability purpose I need a cdrom of the firmware [00:18] can b43fwcutter extract what the machine has [00:19] purple1, do you have a support related question? if not, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic [00:20] it is talking of gpg signates [00:20] this doesnt secure the transport [00:21] as the article states, the final download is compared to a cryptographic signature. If the signatures do not match against the repository, the packages are deleted and redownloaded === mkv is now known as m4v [00:22] what is the plugin something like fastest mirrot [00:22] I am sending files from one server to another over ssh, using unison (for historic reasons), struck me that since it is one way I should use rsync - I bothered to time it - whay is rsync SO MUCH slower? [00:22] to route out the government [00:22] and is there a cacert man [00:23] so I can delete bobblehead injections [00:23] jpmh, rsync can be sped up if you run an rsync service instance on the remote computer. Otherwise it has to transfer the file, then compare them [00:25] how looking at apt install log [00:28] pragmaticenigma: ty so much - that makes sense - now it makes sense that unison keeps those WEIRD files [00:28] jpmh, yeah they're cache files for each successive run [00:28] how looking [00:28] pragmaticenigma: can you see any possible reason then for me making the change I was considering - seems that I may as well stick with unison since it IS WORKING [00:29] jpmh, if it works for you, and is reliable I see no reason to switch to something else. Especially since it looks like you were running it over ssh to begin with? === Guest56 is now known as XOR [00:30] What is the difference between running a script as a user and using a service file to run a script in linux? When I run a script from a terminal as a regular user, it executes perfectly. However, when I run the same script using a .service file, it mysteriously fails. I have setup the .service file to use my regular account, and added a whoami > lo [00:30] g.txt to the script in question. The desired account is printed successfully in the log.txt. [00:31] pragmaticenigma: ty so much - yes everything runs over ssh or the approptpiate other encryption protocol for things like web pages and mail access [00:32] XOR, is your script meant to be an execute once? or is it an actual service? and is the .service file setup with the right start|stop|restart hooks? [00:32] where see logs [00:33] I have a .timer setup with the .service file. [00:33] !patience | purple1 [00:33] purple1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [00:35] This is my service file. [00:35] [Unit] [00:35] Description=Runs duplicacy backup script. [00:35] [Service] [00:35] User=nkidonak [00:35] ExecStart=(Correct Path) [00:35] [Install] [00:35] WantedBy=default.target [00:35] [Unit] [00:35] Description=Runs duplicacy backup script. [00:35] oh no [00:35] [Service] [00:35] stop! [00:36] XOR, use pastebin please [00:37] I accidentally copied the content of the .service file twice. [00:37] Okay pragmaticenigma [00:37] XOR, only saw about 6 lines before the server kicked for spam [00:38] gwen rocks the mic dunshe [00:39] !offtopic | purple1 [00:39] purple1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [00:39] !patience | purple1 [00:39] purple1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [00:39] https://pastebin.com/QCHD891h [00:41] I am attempting to automate my Duplicacy backups with a script. [00:41] purple1, the logs you are looking for are in /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/history.log [00:42] The service file correctly executes my script. [00:42] no admin app like windows has? [00:42] Is it possible to configure Lubuntu onto a 8GB flashdrive that doesn't write or change anything on the computer or flash drive, but add a remmina VNC/RDP client and automatically connect to a network? [00:42] XOR, that kind of sounds like a task better suited for cron? [00:42] I was aiming for native integration with systemd. [00:42] run that under some text editor then [00:44] Anyways, the script correctly calls the program when run by the .service file. However, the program responds incorrectly only when run by the .service file. [00:44] XOR, my opinion would be to run as cron, only because it's meant to run on a schedule. if a job gets missed it can be automatically launched after a reboot, you can verify it's execution in your syslogs, I just see more benefit than systemd [00:44] XOR, ahve you checked the envronment [00:45] XOR - often I have thins that run fine at the shell and then not elsewhere and I fix the environment variables and all works [00:45] What do you mean jpmh? [00:45] XOR: see my second comment [00:45] Goop, you could setup the drive to have persistance, which would allow you to install packages after setting up the drive and booting from it. The installation will not affect the host computer [00:47] Well, actually, I like how the "live" boot works with Lubuntu, but every package and setting I change gets reverted next reboot. I want to know if I could configure/install a couple of things, then have it act just how the current "live" edition works. [00:47] Goop, you are using a USB drive? [00:47] Yes. [00:48] take a look at this article: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/ [00:49] Goop ^ ^ ... that article will help you reflash the drive so you have persistant storage which allows you to install apps [00:51] purple1, yes, you can use a regular text editor to view the file [00:52] what version of ubuntu come qt5+ and gstreamer installed [00:54] you should be able to install those from the package manager if they're not installed by default. KDE desktop environment is based on QT and will likely have the qt libraries installed [00:54] black_13, ^ ^ ... gstreamer is able to be installed via the package manager if not already installed [00:55] i know === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs [00:56] black_13, when you say version, do you mean like 16.04, 17.10, etc? === vemacs is now known as Guest18644 [00:58] yeah there is a version of the spin [00:58] the base is ubuntu [00:59] it looks like this is the newest version for 32bit [01:00] how about b43fwcutter [01:00] can it extract what is running for backup? [01:03] purple1, You haven't told us what you are trying to accomplish with b43fwcutter [01:04] When I install packages, Ubuntu terminal will use message like use : sudo apt install mypackage . Why is it not apt-get instead? Has the keyword apt replaced apt-get? [01:04] learningc, yes [01:04] learningc: basically [01:05] So we don't need to write apt-get anymore? [01:05] learningc, correct [01:05] I see. Thanks [01:06] extract the current firmware [01:07] purple1, b43fwcutter was an old technique for installing broadcom drivers into linux (from what I remember) and is no longer supported. If your computer is having trouble connecting via WiFi, you may need to ask a more relevant question to receive help on that then. === m4v- is now known as m4v [01:09] pragmaticenigma: some older broadcom hardware won't work with any other method [01:11] jerichowasahoax, I am aware that there are still cards that require that step, I own several. However, I have no idea why it's being asked about as the poster has not responded to my inquery on what they are even attempting to do [01:12] create stability by backing up the firmware [01:12] purple1: response makes no sense [01:13] so "your friendly neighbor" doesn't break in and flash the firmware [01:13] purple1, if your friendly neighbor is breaking into your home, you have bigger things to worry about [01:13] why worry [01:13] purple1: if an attacker has enough access to your system to flash malicious firmware onto your wireless chipsets, you've got a bigger problem than "do i have a backup" [01:14] purple1: a "format every drive you have, all your data is effectively compromised" level problem [01:14] not if at each sitting the system is built from the firmware up [01:14] wat [01:14] which reminds me to look into rbit [01:15] purple1, please see https://tails.boum.org/ ... looks to be exactly what your needing. We don't support it, but you're free to reach out to their community with any questions [01:16] they dont know what they are doing [01:18] purple1, we have no further help for you. I wish you well in whatever you're attempting to do. [01:20] talked to them on discord the same day some clowns show up with a teenager who did not identify [01:20] day aftethe summation was an addition to the enemy combatant list [01:20] purple1, ENOUGH. This is a support channel for Ubuntu. That is offtopic and not appropriate for this chat room. Please take your conversation elsewhere [01:26] gnome 3.28 is available on ubuntu? [01:26] hello [01:27] !info gnome bionic [01:27] gnome (source: meta-gnome3): Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.22+9 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB [01:27] jusss, gnome 3.28 is scheduled to be released as part of ubuntu 18.04. For more information /join #ubuntu+1 [01:27] pragmaticenigma: ok === p is now known as Guest86548 [01:56] Hi there peeps! Just installed my first ever linux distro, in an attempt to get some use from an ancient netbook from the WindowsXP era, running a single core 1.6Ghz atom cpu on 1GHz of RAM! Was painful to use running Win7, but with a lightweight version of Lubuntu installed, it;s running nicely & now that I've discovered that the chromium web browser runs stably, I'm taking my first ever steps with using the command li [01:56] indow to try & get used to doing things without using a graphical file manager! === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest86538 === mkv is now known as m4v [01:59] redstart67: :) Welcome to linux . [01:59] That's great redstart67 ! Did you have a support question that we can help with? [01:59] !rute [01:59] documentation is to be found at https://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf [02:05] To be honest, I've so many that I can't even think of what to focus on first? Is it really worth trying to force myself to use the command line for basic file management & so on, rather than continuing to use a graphical file manager? I've been rtold that over time, that will more than pay off, but it's taking some adjusting to, as it's painfully slow as I relearn basic stuff like launching software from a command, rath [02:05] cking icons or dragging & dropping them between windows? Howevert, it does feel good when I nail a command properly! Is it really as useful to relearn things as people say it is? [02:07] Apologies for not having a proper issue to ask about, but I'm sure that I'll be returning frequently in the coming days with a list of stuff to work through? I jsy wanted to say hi really! [02:09] :) [02:09] redstart67, Hello. you achieved a friend. [02:09] Level 2 [02:11] in gnome i want to add the topbar sound indicator to my other monitor also but i dont see hwo to dothis [02:12] redstart67: Understand that no one knows all there is to know about terminal - take it east and you will pick up and learn what you need . in the menatine, learn the installed manual . In terminal do ' man man ' - 'q' to quit :) [02:12] easy* [02:14] what is the name of the menu on the top bar that has the power off, sleep, sound, bluetooth? [02:14] wifi [02:16] it didnt work [02:16] broke the x environment and wifi [02:16] this has been the first update since install [02:17] if you are assisting pragmaticenigma you can have a user account for timeshare === mkv is now known as m4v [02:18] this is a wrapping of unimatrix zero [02:18] Thanks! I feel happy to have found this room full of linuxy ubuntu folk to help me work through the many great looking resources & websites supporting these great distros! I'd been wanting to dip my toe into the linux world for so long now, but had never gotten around to doing so until trying to revive some old hardware to give it another lease of life finally forced my hand & now I'm wondering just why I've put it off [02:18] m having so much fun & also learning more about the amazing systems around these days than I'd ever imagined possible? Thanaks for the advice & I'll have fun this weekend, working my way through all the basics of file management again from the manual. I didn't even realise that was there, so many thanks & see you again soon, no doubt? [02:18] join cncnet once the government software is removed the government is defunct [02:19] target geographic locations [02:19] the atom does have some bogomips pragmaticenigma run a process like seti [02:20] purple1, you have been asked to take your conversation to another room. This room is for Ubuntu support only. [02:21] the update didnt work [02:21] not smoothly at least [02:21] redstart67, no, GUI's are the future (or past, since, you know, faster) forcing yourself to use CLI for everything actually slows you down a lot, its clearly not worth it in many instances [02:22] it all installed but broke the desktop and wifi [02:22] purple1, we cannot support your system. your customizations have taken your computer and installation out of scope from the abilities of this support channel. [02:22] did you see some customizations? [02:22] it was an install and update [02:22] purple1, I told you earlier, I'm not helping you anymore [02:23] what is the official xubuntu cd then [02:23] what i mean is, GUIs are really old technology, do get acquainted with the CLI since its useful, but GUIs are still faster in many respects, when they arent its a problem with the application itself and not that GUIs are inherently bad [02:24] OK then. So perhaps I'll just familiarise nyself with how to use commands, but not worry too much about forcing myself to use it all the time, as it's certainly slower for me at the moment? [02:25] yes! [02:28] Thanks for your input, as I've read so many different views & opinions on how linux is best used, especially when compared to other operating systems, so it's difficult to know what to think sometimes? people can become almost evangelical in their ideas about these distros sometimes, so it's good to hear the thoughts of some users who actually use these systems to do real world stuff on [02:29] Anyway, way past my bedtime now, here in UK, so many thanks again, happy ubuntu people & see you again soon :-[ [02:30] :) do come again for any questions [02:31] purple1, The offical download site for Xubuntu is https://xubuntu.org/download .. you can find instuctions on how to verify your ISO image here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0 and ISO checksums can be found here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ ... A full install, without any modification or self compiled programs can be supported by this chat room or /join [02:31] #xubuntu ... as long as you stick to the tutorials offered by the ubuntu.com and xubuntu.org domains we can support your system. [02:47] hi can any one told me how to use 'su' [02:48] keridenna: you can use su to change into any user [02:48] !su | keridenna [02:48] keridenna: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [02:48] keridenna: "su -" changes into the root user, "su - username" changes into username. you need the target user's password [02:50] ok thanks [02:50] !su explanation talks about sudo :) [02:50] akik: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:54] hi how to install wpa-wps testor [02:54] fn sudo { su -c $* root } [02:56] Kumool, please be careful with posting commands and code in the chat room. there are users who may not understand what those commands and code do and risk damaging their systems. Let's stick to the support questions that come in, and avoid creating new ones [02:59] keridenna, we can only support applications that are provided through the default package repositories from the Ubuntu domain. I do not see listings for that application, therefore it is not supported by this channel [02:59] !pm | keridenna [02:59] keridenna: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. [03:00] ok [03:00] sorry === precise is now known as precise|tinfoil [03:02] pragmaticenigma: link to the public log then [03:02] there was a nick which gave some info about broadcom [03:02] while you helped [03:04] !logs [03:04] Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [03:05] what does this command do : gksudo "gnome-open %u" [03:09] what does this command do : gksudo "gnome-open %u" [03:09] hello everyone === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest98505 [03:10] hi [03:11] where are you from? keridenna [03:11] Mauritania [03:12] and you [03:12] china === mkv is now known as m4v [03:12] keridenna, that should be a command to open a file with the default handler for that file type, using elevated permissions [03:13] I don't know your country ... [03:13] sorry [03:14] do you know china? [03:14] This isn't a general chat channel. [03:14] do you know africa [03:14] yes [03:15] do you know china? yes I know it [03:15] hsoshipeng, keridenna : please keep your conversation to support related questions and answer about ubuntu. If you would like to chat, please join us in /join #ubuntu-offtopic [03:16] !offtopic hsoshipeng [03:16] !offtopic [03:16] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:16] China and Africa are good friends [03:16] hsoshipeng, PLEASE take your conversation to /join #ubuntu-offtopic [03:17] jerichowasahoax: what was that comment about format? [03:17] looking at the logs it missed my reading [03:19] it looks like the update systems dont work well for one [03:19] though the live distros seem to be my own proxy code [03:20] like slipping into shoes that fit from wear [03:20] though the security updates are supposed to sort of be a live patching of exploits as they are released, right? [03:24] we talk about then and now [03:25] talk about what? [03:25] yet thenew barcode is next to the old [03:25] the old still there === Guest93170 is now known as hyperreal [03:27] ZaZaQR: i.e. the debate of using commandline or gui [03:27] and the barcodes [03:28] I'd propone the new [03:28] somebody want to drink the cup? === precise|tinfoil is now known as plsno === plsno is now known as plsnom === plsnom is now known as kashlf === kashlf is now known as precise === precise is now known as precise|tinfoil [03:32] !ot | purple1 [03:32] purple1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:32] How can I find the environmental variables a program uses? [03:33] hi how to install a theme [03:33] CantonMathGuy, what is the program? [03:33] Duplicacy [03:34] Installed 18.04 today and encountered a bug: if I install CMake, slack and viber won't work since CMake uses libccurl4 and slack/viber needs libcurl3. Is there any possible fix? [03:35] zer0x, use the Slack snap rather than compile from source. Also 18.04 is not supported here, please /join #ubuntu+1 [03:36] thanks pragmaticenigma [03:37] CantonMathGuy, Duplicacy does not appear to be a program supplied through official Ubuntu package channels. Which means it cannot be supported here. I recommend that you locate the documentation provided by the software developer, as that will have the necassary information you are seeking. [03:37] How is the relationship of Ubuntu Software and Flatpak. It seems flatpak is messing with my artful Ubuntu. :( === ajbozdar_ is now known as ajbozdar [03:39] ajbozdar, Ubuntu supports snaps. Flatpak is not a supported application [03:41] after installing a snap? how can I run the app? Slack for example, there's no command slack, is it snap run slack or something? [03:41] And you know what, I love snaps. And you also know what, Gnome hates snaps, Gnome loves flatpaks.. === mkv is now known as m4v [03:41] zer0x: Why do you need a command to run a snap? Are you on a server? [03:41] ajbozdar, I can understand that. Still limited on what can help. You can check in /join #flatpak to see if they are able to help resolve your question [03:42] oh yeah snap run slack, correct guess. ajbozdar: I' [03:42] I don't know, my desktop doesn't has slack command [03:42] Cheer, zer0x [03:43] pragmaticenigma: I am looking into their channel. Let's see how they respond to my structured query. [03:44] ajbozdar, to the best of my knowledge Ubuntu should not care that Flatpak is installed [03:45] ajbozdar, however, if you installed via a PPA, it's possible the PPA is supplying a package that contains a version different than what Ubuntu has in their packages [03:45] ajbozdar, which is why 3rd party ppa are considered use at your own risk [03:46] pragmaticenigma: You are absolutely right. I just curled flatpak and integrated it with the Ubuntu Software. Now it is dancing horizontally. [03:47] pragmaticenigma: Because it tries to install "up to date" software. [03:48] I talked with a gnome developer and he said, they just want to go with the flatpak because it works for them. Gnome + Gitlab + Flatpak =~ Gnome 4.0 This is how they are thinking. [03:49] pragmaticenigma: But if this is the case why Ubuntu wants Gnome to be the default DE? Can you answer this? [03:53] ajbozdar, that decision was made at Canonical and their reason is they didn't see Unity as a viable product in the future. [03:53] ajbozdar, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/why-did-ubuntu-drop-unity-mark-shuttleworth-explains [03:54] Then why canonical is not supporting flatpak? It is like you want milk but skimmed and still don't lose the weight. [03:56] pragmaticenigma: I assume you are using Artful 17.10. May I know what exactly you are using? Don't say vanila...!!! [03:58] Hi there, if I install the latest ubuntu... but what I really want is the new LTS (that comes in April) how I update it to that one and keep on that version??? === mkv is now known as m4v [03:59] ajbozdar, I use 16.04 for its LTS. I don't use snaps as I don't personally believe the in the philosophy. I believe there are much better ways to offer up-to-date software [03:59] For instance? [04:00] tyoc213, 18.04 has not been released officially yet and is not yet supported. There is no upgrade path from the beta to the official release. You should install 16.04 at this time or wait for the official release [04:00] tyoc213, for further assistance please /join #ubuntu+1 [04:00] /join #ubuntu+1 [04:01] I'm sorry ajbozdar, we've travelled into offtopic and I'm going to have to drop it [04:01] tyoc213, remove the space in front of the forward slash / [04:01] pragmaticenigma: Lots of places are saying the beta can be upgraded to release tho [04:01] pragmaticenigma, yeah, stupid copy paste [04:01] xD [04:02] CoJaBo, it can be, but it isn't guaranteed to be as stable as a clean install [04:02] so... how one goes about one LTS to another??? [04:02] CoJaBo, or stable as using the upgrade path from 16.04 to 18.04 when it becomes available [04:02] it is a whole swipe of the system each time (each 4 years or so?) [04:02] pragmaticenigma: You are free to drop it. [04:03] tyoc213, no... when it's possible to do the upgrade, you will see a prompt in the GUI offering to upgrade your system to the latest LTS release [04:03] I see, so if I keep from LTS to LTS, no problem then [04:03] So 18.04 is going to be rolling release, right? [04:03] OK [04:03] thx [04:03] There is no current plans for a rolling release at this time [04:04] Ubuntu will continue to release a new version every 6 months, with a long term release every 2 years [04:04] my google-driver is not working it says failed to request [04:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule [04:07] tyoc213, that is the schedule, however the automatic update to 18.04 will not be available right away. Ubuntu has typically waited until the .1 release to offer the automated upgrade. Once most the initial bugs have been flushed out [04:07] "There is no upgrade path from the beta to the official release" [04:07] that's false [04:08] Wouldn't you be able to change the repo sources for apt? [04:08] or would that not be enough? [04:08] I see [04:08] that's never the right thing to do wreo [04:08] thx for the info pragmaticenigma in the other channel they also mencioned the simple one to 18.04.1 [04:08] It is true, there is no upgrade path. You are already on the update channel for 18.04... there would be nothing to upgrade [04:08] so I guess that is not the one in the next month [04:08] that is only 18.04 [04:09] correct tyoc213 === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest68448 [04:11] Ben64, changing the apt sources list is what do-release-upgrade does. Along with checks to ensure all sources have the appropriate branch available to the new version of Ubuntu [04:12] after that it call apt dist-upgrade [04:12] doesn't change what i said at all [04:13] my google-driver is not working it says failed to request Please help [04:14] Ben64, you are correct, it's not wise to simply update the apt sources with the new branch version. as the do-release-upgrade program does system checks for comptibility and does it's best to ensure it's safe to do the upgrade without risk to the data on the machine [04:14] chrome-driver, what is "google-driver" i have never heard of that [04:14] sorry i mean chrome-driver not google-driver [04:15] !chrome [04:17] chrome-driver, that is software provided by google and is not part of the Ubuntu package management system. You will need to contact google's or chromium's support channels for assistance [04:17] chrome-driver, see /join #chromium-support [04:18] thanks === sjohnson is now known as sanjide === sanjide is now known as sjohnson [04:26] is it just me or does spotify crash anybody elses' system? === sjohnson is now known as sanjide === sanjide is now known as sjohnson [04:34] mmm just me then [04:38] hey i am trying to compile a 4.9.87 kernel with patches for a asus t100taf but i can't on the actually asus t100taf b/c it doesn't have any space so now i am trying to do it off of my laptop. i know i can do it and i have copied the entire folder and put into my home folder on my laptop. but when i run make it tells me i need some packages before it will do the process [04:39] my laptop has an intel icore 5 cpu and in terms of my asust t100taf it has an intel baytrail cpu [04:47] hello? === Bosna is now known as Sokol === nan is now known as Guest5395 === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest45733 === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest18493 === marve is now known as Guest32382 [06:16] exit [06:16] exit [06:16] I just installed cinnamon. Do you know how to move applet to top? [06:18] *applet = panel. [06:18] I wanted to say bottom panel. I want to move it to top. [06:27] hmm is there an irc in the world that is moderately active 24x7 [06:27] ? [06:28] f00lest, there are, but this is support not chatter [06:28] f00lest, you should ask in #freenode for that [06:28] bazhang, owh [06:29] 62436 [06:31] bgd ? [06:31] what is that number mate? [06:32] a mistake:) [06:45] I am trying to install Ubuntu server 17.10 but it doesn't see my raid array device, but when I check the logs it does see sda and sdb which are the two drives that make up the array [06:45] But it they don't show up in the partition GUI any ideas? [06:49] Anyone around? [06:49] https://pastebin.com/Xcs5Y3dR === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs === vemacs is now known as Guest55687 [07:25] hi guys just installed ubuntu but didnt tick install updates box-manually updated from terminal with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then checked to if any needed updates from inside ubuntu software centre, none needed-however sound card drivers are not present how do i fix this guys? [07:26] nothin present in the software and updates>additional drivers either pertaining to sound card drivers [07:27] have rebooted also just to be safe [07:27] (certain it wasnt a reboot issue) [07:29] every other install same versions 16.04/17.10 sound has worked fine but i always ticked both boxes during installation this time i did not only selected the bottom box from inside ubiquity [07:31] noj_, first things first: have you checked your preferences / Audio / output for selected sound card and volume? [07:32] noj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure actually has a good punch list [07:32] omg i am a bannana head it was on mute i am so sorry for wasting your time [07:32] rofl [07:32] woo.. crisis averted! [07:33] mute button works... check that off the list too ;d [07:33] * noj_ cant beleive how silly he is [07:35] i was wondering what runs my audio (re drivers) on a linux system i have a gigabyte A8N-E-deluxe [07:35] is it pulse audio or is that a program [07:35] on windows its realtek audio i think [07:44] so from what ive been reading pulse audio is a network-capable sound server-i think that means its a driver by reading the description of what it does can anyone confirm that its a driver for my own learning curve please [07:45] pulseaudio is the sound handler in ubuntu. NOT a device driver [07:45] thanks [07:46] !realtek > noj_ [07:46] noj_, please see my private message [07:47] thanks [07:48] thanks [07:48] happy2help! === vemacs|ded is now known as vemacs [08:01] is this the name of driver that my system is using to run my sound; both of them-see imgur link [08:01] https://imgur.com/a/IK9xx === vemacs is now known as Guest33642 [08:03] seems legit. AMD for normal use and nvidia for HDMI. === ottarms is now known as phren === marve is now known as Guest98864 [08:16] guys need some help on basic setup of ufw for a home pc for security so far have denied all incomming and allowed all outgoing-will this be fine for using browsers irc and torrent or will i need a rule for transmission and a port number-pretty sure i know how to do but am noob re ufw and firewalls re linux [08:17] have enabled ufw also [08:17] I enabled UFW. transmission has never triggered it [08:18] may sound odd but need i do anything other than deny incomming and allow outgoing [08:18] for reletive security re firewall [08:20] Hello channel. [08:20] I just managed an install of xUbuntu on an ASUS Vivobook [08:20] welcome [08:20] enjoy [08:22] After querying the system to be sure i booted/installed UEFI/GPT with commands: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS #and# the sys response was UEFI. [08:25] noj_, default ufw has always worked for me. YMMV. [08:26] The only other commands i am familiar with to verify this are: dmesg | grep "EFI v" #the sys response was: [ 0.000000] efi: EFI v2.31 by American Megatrends [08:27] what folder does ubuntu 16.04 mount internal drives want to find them in terminal dont know where to go to from root [08:27] hi all [08:27]