| wagle | i'm runnng 1804 i have been chrooting into an old u1404 image to use an old netapp.. minutes (an hour?) ago, it lost the ability to dns. what happened? | 00:48 |
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| TJ- | wagle: what were you doing in the chroot ? | 00:49 |
| wagle | just running this old program that uses the net, but! maybe I never had dns, and the app hardcodes the ip address? | 00:53 |
| wagle | thats my current suspicion.. the remote site might be down, and i finally noticed the lack of dns trying to diagnose the problem | 00:56 |
| wagle | TJ-: nope, it just now failed and listed a dns name and not an ip address, so dns got broken today? | 00:58 |
| TJ- | did the domain expire? | 01:00 |
| wagle | nope.. but bind mounting /etc/resolv.conf inside the chroot works at the moment | 01:02 |
| mesa | I may never run osx again on this iMac. Wow. Lightning fast on bionic beaver | 01:10 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| BionicMac | Just installed todays build. SO sweet. I'm a long time Slackware user and I'm super impressed with Ubuntu. | 01:11 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: In my case, I found wayland faster and smoother than Xorg . I was very impressed with the wayland implementation. | 01:13 |
| BionicMac | Since kernel 4.15 my video card is fully supported | 01:14 |
| wagle | I can just sit back and let u1804 update itself to a regular dist? | 01:16 |
| Bashing-om | wagle: Affirmed .. just keep the beta updated . | 01:18 |
| BionicMac | Bashing-om: How can I run wayland on 18.04 ? | 01:18 |
| BionicMac | Is there an easy way to switch back and forth. | 01:18 |
| BionicMac | ? | 01:18 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: At the password screen is a small cog lower right of the login box . | 01:18 |
| BionicMac | ok rebooting... | 01:19 |
| mesa | donald@bionic-mac:~$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE | 01:29 |
| mesa | wayland | 01:29 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Wayland is a bit different .. wull take a bit to re-adjust . | 01:32 |
| Bashing-om | will* | 01:33 |
| BionicMac | I don't see any difference yet. | 01:35 |
| BionicMac | like.. no visual difference. | 01:36 |
| BionicMac | 3840 x 2160 is my top resolution ... I had the same in X. but that is the kernel driver and blah. | 01:38 |
| BionicMac | that is a crazy resolution... higher than OSX would push it. | 01:38 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: The main thing I liked in the wayland interface was the keyboard shortcuts ( work spaces ) . | 01:38 |
| BionicMac | Oh! I should study up on that. I need them. | 01:38 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: switching work spaces with the keyboard is smoother and faster, in my use case . | 01:40 |
| BionicMac | Bashing-om: I'm looking for a readme | 01:40 |
| BionicMac | what is the hotkey for activites? | 01:41 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Not sure .. not on bionic at this time . | 01:43 |
| BionicMac | This apple keyboard has no PgUp/Dn key... pissing me off. | 01:43 |
| BionicMac | on osx its fn+up-arrrow/down-arrow | 01:43 |
| BionicMac | don't know what the combo is here... | 01:43 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: try as Windows key+arrow-up/down ( work space switcher ) . .. Also in wayland can click pn an application that is running in the dash to switch windows . | 01:45 |
| BionicMac | nope | 01:51 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: No experience with a MAC keyboard . Would not know where to begin in remapping keys :( | 01:53 |
| BionicMac | ctrl+alt+up/down arrow. check ! | 01:53 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Progress ! :)) | 01:54 |
| BionicMac | Next thing I really want/NEED badly is my trackpad gestures.... | 01:55 |
| BionicMac | I gusess I need synaptics something something bblah blah | 01:55 |
| BionicMac | Apple Magic Trackpad. working great with basic pointer ... now I want my gestures back. | 01:55 |
| BionicMac | two finger scroll... swicth workspaces 3-finger swipe.. etc etc | 01:56 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Not so sure how well the trackpad is supported in wayland . ( beginning to sound like a broken record ) | 01:56 |
| BionicMac | =) | 01:56 |
| BionicMac | Well. I didn't have it working in X either. so ... | 01:56 |
| BionicMac | I can always go back to X if needed. | 01:57 |
| BionicMac | I'm good eiher way. I just want my gestures =) | 01:57 |
| BionicMac | Bashing-om: What is your browser of choice in ubuntu? | 01:59 |
| BionicMac | man, expressvpn is lightning fast as solid. | 02:01 |
| BionicMac | s/as/and/ | 02:01 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Depends on what environment I am in .. elinks for CLI ; Gui is chromium .// touchpad do not know what waykand woukd have for a driver . Xorg perhaps : https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-input-synaptics&searchon=names&suite=bionic§ion=all . | 02:01 |
| BionicMac | Bashing-om: Thanks brother man! =) | 02:02 |
| BionicMac | I like chromium myself, I'll play with ff and chromiuim until i settle on one. I've been on safari for a while now. | 02:03 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Learning wayland is going to be trippy :) | 02:03 |
| BionicMac | Well. the good thing is I can be back in X in a heartbeat | 02:03 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: True .. will have to wait and see how support for wayland plays out . | 02:04 |
| BionicMac | Bashing-om: I'm going to write a tutorial on dual-booting ubuntu and macosx high sierra on a 5k. Eventually. I 'm almost to the point where I want to completely wipe out osx partition. | 02:05 |
| BionicMac | I already trashed to boot loader by installing grub to main drive instead of somewhere else.. I wasn't looking =) it's trash. =) | 02:06 |
| BionicMac | s/to/the/ | 02:06 |
| BionicMac | I always come back to linux, no matter what. I should stop trying to fool myself. | 02:07 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: Trashing grub multi-booting and then fixing is how I learned grub :) | 02:07 |
| BionicMac | NO I trashed Apples boot loader. My grub is intact. | 02:07 |
| BionicMac | haha | 02:08 |
| BionicMac | I need to learn more about grub. I'm still in Lilo land. !@! | 02:08 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: I am fortunate in that linux does *evrything* i need to do . | 02:08 |
| BionicMac | It does that. | 02:08 |
| Bashing-om | BionicMac: grub2 has changed a lot from lilo . There too is a lot to re-learn ( and I still miss the inittab system ! ) | 02:10 |
| BionicMac | agreed | 02:10 |
| Bashing-om | Gotta do the rain locker thing .. back soonest . | 02:11 |
| BionicMac | Peace | 02:13 |
| Fudge | ok it seems the packages i had trouble with is due to the asutralian mirror | 04:08 |
| fxnoob | hello | 05:03 |
| fxnoob | I need help installing ubuntu, I cannot even boot installer, Ryzen 5 2400G | 05:04 |
| fxnoob | 18.04 beta | 05:04 |
| fxnoob | if I boot normal usb hangs without seeing any error, if I boot uefi usb gives an error with AMD-vi | 05:05 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: And did you verify the .iso download integrity ? | 05:07 |
| fxnoob | no problem with integrity | 05:08 |
| Bashing-om | !nomodeset | fxnoob Hummm .. try : | 05:09 |
| ubottu | fxnoob Hummm .. try :: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 05:09 |
| fxnoob | ok, trying | 05:11 |
| fxnoob | thanks | 05:11 |
| fxnoob | hello, nomodeset did the trick | 05:49 |
| fxnoob | thanks :) | 05:49 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: nomodeset permanently is not a good solution . We do need to find out why the kernel driver does not load . | 05:53 |
| fxnoob | Bashing-om, well I'm on 18.04 but driver has 0 acceleration, I have stuttering when I move windows | 05:54 |
| fxnoob | Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: fbdev,ati (unloaded: modesetting,vesa,radeon) | 05:55 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: You are running on the fall back driver .. will not have good performance . Need to get the AMD driver funtional . | 05:55 |
| fxnoob | I read something about mesa | 05:56 |
| fxnoob | Mesa works with this integrated gpu | 05:56 |
| fxnoob | aka Radeon Vega 11 | 05:56 |
| fxnoob | this installation detects as radeon vega 8 mobile :) | 05:57 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: hybrid graphics .. will take some one else that has the experience to advise here . | 05:57 |
| fxnoob | well, so far I made it to boot/install, is a huge step ahead | 05:58 |
| fxnoob | fixing driver, needs some reading | 05:58 |
| fxnoob | also I read that only kernel 4.4.16 fully supports ryzen 5 2400G | 05:58 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: Progress ! .. But I do not know the current state with AMD/Intel to knoiw what to do here . | 05:59 |
| Bashing-om | !linux-image-generic | 06:00 |
| fxnoob | well.. people who use latest hardware are considered pioneers :) | 06:00 |
| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-generic | 06:00 |
| fxnoob | I'm on 1month and half old cpu | 06:01 |
| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-generic bionic | 06:01 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.12.13 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB | 06:01 |
| fxnoob | yeah, I'm on that one | 06:01 |
| Bashing-om | fxnoob: The board is supported . the graphic's are questionable :( | 06:03 |
| fxnoob | yes, I cannot use youtube or anything related to graphics, is framing bad | 06:03 |
| fxnoob | also doesn't install the amd sound card, I only have sound from plantronics headset | 06:04 |
| fxnoob | amd has only windows 10 64 bit at driver download, no linux or any other OS | 06:06 |
| TABS_Network | Hi all. Any thoughts on ubuntu 18.04? | 06:13 |
| Bashing-om | TABS_Network: Smooth and works a treat on my hardware . | 06:17 |
| TABS_Network | Ok, great to hear Bashing-om. Do you use it in a business sense too? | 06:18 |
| TABS_Network | I am interested in looking at using it for business, as I've used Ubuntu since 8.04, but only become familiar with the new layout since 12.04. I liked the GNOME environment, and hearing that it's been reintroduced is intriguing. The only concern I have is security of information. | 06:22 |
| TABS_Network | I currently use Lubuntu, just for the sake of trying something different. | 06:23 |
| Bashing-om | TABS_Network: To this time just casual desktop use . I find wayland smoother and faster . | 06:23 |
| TABS_Network | Ah, okay. I haven't used wayland yet. | 06:29 |
| TABS_Network | Bashing-om Is wayland the 18.04? I haven't looked at it specifically yet, apart from knowing what was coming? | 06:32 |
| Bashing-om | TABS_Network: No longer wayland by default . at the pass word screen click on the gear icon at the lower right . | 06:34 |
| TABS_Network | Bashing-om I haven't installed it yet. It's a consideration, as I've enjoyed Ubuntu, but am concerned with the security issues of business details regarding Google. Google is great in many areas, but I am not one to agree with the mass-collection, as sadly, it allows for businesses to become swamping morphs, that kill or absorb anything in their path. It's a love/hate relationship. Their services are fantastic, but the payoff | 06:37 |
| TABS_Network | seems to be a lack of privacy and a loss of business enterprise. | 06:37 |
| TABS_Network | That is my biggest concern (and here I am using Lubuntu...lol) | 06:37 |
| Bashing-om | TABS_Network: I must leave it to others to comment on Google as I have made no thought on that matter . My preference for my "work" OS is some varient of xfce . I will roll my own . | 06:40 |
| Bashing-om | TABS_Network: xfce: be aware that there will be no wayland DE . | 06:41 |
| ducasse | TABS_Network: what does concerns about google have to do with using ubuntu or not? | 06:42 |
| TABS_Network | Sorry Bashing-om and ducasse. I was on the phone. | 07:03 |
| TABS_Network | ducasse Canonical and their relationship with Google is my concern, well, not so much a concern but something I'd like to be more aware of what is going on. | 07:04 |
| TABS_Network | Bashing-om Ok, good to know that too. | 07:04 |
| ducasse | TABS_Network: the only thing in ubuntu that sends data to google is chromium, as far as i'm aware, and that's easily enough avoided | 07:11 |
| TABS_Network | ducasse That's good to know. I didn't know that. | 07:16 |
| TABS_Network | I read something about two years ago, a document created by Canonical and Google. I think it was a guide to using Ubuntu. It scared me that Google was getting involved at the education level, as it is like giving our kids a facebook account before they're past their stupid teen years. | 07:18 |
| ducasse | i wouldn't worry too much about that. google is selling a lot of products and services for education, like chromebooks for schools. this document might have something to do with that. | 07:25 |
| ducasse | whether google should be involved in education is another question, of course, but schools need to get their computers and applications from somewhere. | 07:26 |
| TABS_Network | Yeah, true. I agree with that ducasse. | 07:34 |
| beta-tester | hi, is the possibility to PXE boot the ubuntu 18.04 LTS (daily-live) ISO image not included yet in the prerelase or is it broken? i cam PXE boot ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS and 17.10.1 ISOs without problems. but not 18.04 LTS (daily-live). see for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1754828 | 08:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1754828 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 18.04 LTS daliy-live ISO fails PXE boot" [Undecided,New] | 08:42 |
| tomreyn | isnt the default firefox search engine also google and does it not search as you type on the address (and, if you have it, search) bar? | 10:05 |
| tomreyn | but other than those defaults i don't think there's much google-ness in ubuntu, if any. | 10:06 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| FurretUber | Hi, I have reported some bugs on Launchpad that were already corrected, but they had their status not changed. | 16:53 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: Which ones? | 16:56 |
| FurretUber | There are a few: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1750707 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1750707 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice says permission was denied to open a file in a NTFS partition, even with it having permission" [Undecided,New] | 16:57 |
| tsimonq2 | So that bug is solved? | 16:57 |
| FurretUber | To me yes, I can use LibreOffice to open files in NTFS partitions with no problem now | 16:58 |
| tsimonq2 | Marked. | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | Any other ones? | 16:59 |
| FurretUber | From Bionic that was it. There are some from previous versions that were already corrected: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1690192 | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1690192 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Unable to configure Gmail account, login window has no functional buttons" [Undecided,New] | 17:02 |
| FurretUber | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1725086 | 17:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1725086 in linux (Ubuntu) "Spam of dmesg messages, Wi-Fi related" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:03 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: You're saying I should mark both of these as "Fix Released"? | 17:04 |
| FurretUber | These bugs no longer affect me. The Thunderbird one was corrected minutes after I reported it | 17:05 |
| FurretUber | Because it was a big problem | 17:05 |
| tsimonq2 | OK | 17:06 |
| tsimonq2 | Please leave a comment on the bug report stating just that. | 17:06 |
| tsimonq2 | Well, on both of them. | 17:06 |
| FurretUber | Ah, OK. I was not aware on how to proceed when they were corrected | 17:06 |
| tsimonq2 | Have you done any digging on the wiki? ;) | 17:07 |
| FurretUber | I did, but not found anything regarding corrected bugs not marked by the developers/maintainers. Maybe I just have not paid attention on that... | 17:08 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:09 |
| ChunkzZ1 | Can I upgrade to 18.04 on xubuntu? I'm on 17.10.1... | 17:12 |
| ChunkzZ1 | They said to ask here. | 17:13 |
| tsimonq2 | ChunkzZ1: You can. | 17:13 |
| tsimonq2 | It's just not recommended quite yet. | 17:13 |
| tsimonq2 | It's a beta, so there might be some rough edges. | 17:13 |
| ChunkzZ1 | It'll have bugs but it'll work, right? | 17:14 |
| tsimonq2 | It *might* have bugs. | 17:15 |
| tsimonq2 | Statistically, the chances are higher of having bugs. | 17:15 |
| tsimonq2 | So yeah, it should work. | 17:15 |
| FurretUber | tsimonq2: may you point me to the page with the procedure of saying/marking the bugs as corrected? My search abilities appear to be degraded today | 17:15 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: Sure, one second. | 17:15 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: The two pages I typically refer to are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage/Charts and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses | 17:16 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: Otherwise, I guess the rule of thumb is "use your common sense" :) | 17:16 |
| FurretUber | tsimonq2: Thank you, I would not find these pages, really. That cases fit on "Bugs resolved after update or config change", so I should just add a comment saying this was corrected with a update and then somebody from bugsquad or bug-control (I'm just a user) should change the status. | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: I'm a member of both, let me know what you need. | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | FurretUber: But I guess the eventual goal is for you to become a member of them, if you contribute enough. ;) | 17:29 |
| tsimonq2 | In fact, I suggest you join Bug Squad: https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad | 17:29 |
| tsimonq2 | iirc, there's little barrier to entry. | 17:29 |
| tsimonq2 | Then I was stubborn and got my bug control via MOTU. :P | 17:30 |
| FurretUber | I will evaluate this later because I have to go now. Thank you for the help | 17:31 |
| tsimonq2 | No problem :) | 17:32 |
| mesa | 3-24 build date of Bionic Beaver running like a charm on this Intel iMac. | 17:32 |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ | 17:32 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| BionicMac | Can anyone point me to information on tweaking gestures on a trackpad in ubuntu? | 17:35 |
| tsimonq2 | BionicMac: This comes up on a quick DDG search: https://github.com/mpiannucci/gnome-shell-extended-gestures | 17:36 |
| BionicMac | tsimonq2, thanks | 17:36 |
| tsimonq2 | No problem. | 17:36 |
| alnr | my desktop has a dialog box fixed to the top of the screen "Wireless mouse is very low in power" and not movable. I can dismiss it but it soon comes back. aside from it not likely being false, how can I make it so this dialog is not taking permanent residence on my desktop | 19:20 |
| alnr | likely being false* | 19:20 |
| ChmEarl | do-release-upgrade from artuful-bionic broke my network. Any cookbook to convert /etc/n/i to netplan? I see no method to bring up my old network | 19:47 |
| ChmEarl | I had 2 bridges, one without an interface (virtual). Netplan refuses to work with virbr0 | 19:49 |
| tomreyn | ChmEarl: here's an example configuration for bridges https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/05/quick-and-easy-network-configuration-with-netplan | 20:57 |
| ChmEarl | tomreyn, ty | 20:57 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
| BionicMac | Is anyone else having intermittent audio issues in Bionic? I'm running a build from 3-24. I have sound, then no sound. I'm quite new at ubuntu and totally new to pulseaudio so I really need a guide to trouble shoot this. thanks in advance. So far none of the guides I have read have helped and I REally would rather not reboot just to get sound. =) | 21:35 |
| BionicMac | Every reboot, sound is perfect, until it just stops. | 21:36 |
| BionicMac | I'm almost ready to believe that once the display blanks (sleeps) then once I log back in it stops. | 21:36 |
| BionicMac | well this worked: sudo alsa force-reload | 22:03 |
| === mesa is now known as BionicMac | ||
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