[04:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:18] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:38] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj - how's your weekend?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, it's been good. Attended a live band gig at my friend's garage last night  then we jammed afterwards til the early hrs. How's your weekend going?
[14:44] <ducasse> so that's why you appear so late? :) all good here, just finished dinner. now watching a british crime show.
[17:05] <pragmaticenigma> so wish Ubuntu instalation instructions show'd level of difficulty , like level 1 new system install (no existing, or clean slate), level 100 dual boot with windows 10 (with the first instruction: before you even start, back up your computer, if you don't know how, don't start)
[17:06] <DJones> Does anybody have experience with a HP 7612 printer, I'm looking to replace my printer with an A3 compatible one, HP  always seems to work OTB,so this one seems the best option
[17:08] <pragmaticenigma> DJones, same sentiment about HP printers and "just works"
[17:11] <DJones> pragmaticenigma: Thats my experience as well,just trying to get an idea if there are non hp hp printers that are equivalents, from experience, I wouldn't go  far from HP
[17:25] <tgm4883> Does someone have an ARM install that they can run 'dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_ARCH' on and tell me the output?
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, My RaspberryPi (raspian) outputs armhf
[18:02] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: thanks, that's what I was expecting so I'm not sure why this is failing
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> arm is fickle?
[18:24] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: shouldn't be that fickle. It's just running an if not statement in a debian/rules file
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, is it possible it's an enumerator?
[18:26] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: I dont' think so. Here's the line that is failing. It just always executes the else block https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/master/deb/debian/rules#L56
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, I don't think you can have two string in your comparison
[19:25] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: I was wondering about that, but it's difficult to test without pushing builds to a PPA
[19:25] <tgm4883> I couldn't find any documentation that specified it was one way or the other,
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, you would have to do the two comparrisons separately... ifneg only appears to accept two parameters for comparison
[19:28] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: right, which it only has two. Those other two parameters are in the filter
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, is there away to do an else if?
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883, what I think is wrong is it should be: ifneq ($(filter $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), "armhf"))
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> and a separte else if or another if (not familiar with make) for: ifneq ($(filter $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), "arm64"))
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> oh!
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> try this
[19:33] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: This suggests that it could be in one https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Text-Functions.html
[19:33] <tgm4883> I'm wondering if I should do "armhf arm64"
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> tgm4883: ifneq ($(filter $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), "armhf" "arm64"))
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> you have a comma right after the first parenthesis. I think that is causing your problem
[19:34] <tgm4883> The comma is necessary, it's comparing the filter to against nothing
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> ick... wish I knew more about make, in a way... glad I don't
[19:36] <tgm4883> Yea, it's a pain. I wish I knew a way to just test this logic without needing to actually do a build
[19:36] <pragmaticenigma> what's being compiled to work on ARM? I figured MythTV is too heavy for that
[19:37] <tgm4883> It's the MythTV frontend
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> oh neat... if only MythTV wasn't so slow over wifi... I'd build up another raspi for it... Then again, my experience with remote frontend has been running it inside a VM which is it's own wonder
[19:40] <tgm4883> pragmaticenigma: supposedly it runs pretty well, but yea depending on your recordings and such it could be too much for wifi
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> I mostly run Myth to record, and cut commericals.. handbrake to make them smaller
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> as I haven't figured out how to cut and convert recordings to mkv directly (with CC and all audio streams)
[19:44] <tgm4883> cool. I dropped mythtv and moved to plex around a year ago. I just didn't like the implementation of MythVideo and with the release of plex DVR it was the right time to move
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> Yeah, but I haven't found something to do OTA recordings like MythTV can
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> and MythVideo has never worked quite right. Even when i cut the commercials it takes a few rounds (and lost episodes) before I remember the configuration that preserves mpeg2 so I can use something else to do the final transcode/compression (hommade python script manging handbrake)