[00:01] <akk> Is anyone familiar with an install failing due to "TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata: please update microcode to version: 0x52 (or later)"?
[00:02] <akk> There are a few different bugs filed on it, e.g. bug 1725762, but I haven't found anything mentioning whether it still happens in Bionic.
[00:03] <akk> (A friend hit it in 17.10 and I'm trying to help him, though we may downgrade him to Xenial)
[00:04] <akk> I've found recommendations to install intel-microcode from restricted, but that doesn't help if it's keeping him from booting.
[00:16] <Chatterly> So seeing as I can't seem to apply lasting permissions to this document I guess I should just save it as a jpeg.
[00:17] <Chatterly> Then they can print it as a picture and at least it's as immutable as a printed copy.
[00:19] <akk> chattr isn't working? How are people modifying it?
[00:19] <akk> Is it on some kind of networked filesystem?
[00:20] <akk> Are people modifying it as root? Otherwise '-r--r--r--' should be plenty.
[00:20] <akk> If people are so determined to modify it that they'll become root, they can probably edit a jpg too. :)
[00:21] <TJ-> akk: Last time I checked the TSC_DEADLINE was not the actual error, but just the last message printed
[00:22] <akk> TJ-: Interesting, I wondered about that. I haven't seen it myself yet.
[00:22] <iehusha> After Recent installation of ssd in addition to the hdd which is an ubuntu 16.04 inst, the hdd is lost in mount tables the ssd is made primary in bios Boot prompt and hdd secondary the ubuntu was installed to the ssd and then aft booting to ssd hdd is vacant
[00:23] <akk> The people in the bug I referenced seem to think it's a matter of bad microcode which has to be overridden on every boot
[00:23] <akk> and that ubuntu should do that automatically in its install.
[00:24] <dman777> why would wpa_gui show as a grey square instead of the usual menu? this is a new install
[00:25] <TJ-> Chatterly: hmmm, wierd, 'ls -l' in some cirumstances should show the 'i' flag; but you're correct, it doesn't seem to do it on recent Ubuntu versions; instead use "lsattr path/to/file"
[00:26] <TJ-> Chatterly: also, to set the attribute, you'll need 'sudo' so "sudo chattr +i path/to/file"
[00:26] <Chatterly> Will try that. Yes I did use sudo.
[00:26] <pos> TJ-, you're "crew", right?
[00:27] <TJ-> pos: huh?
[00:27] <pos> channel crew?
[00:27] <TJ-> are we going sailing? flying?
[00:27] <TJ-> pos: just the same as anyone else here
[00:27] <pos> ah
[00:28] <pos> who is ded crew?
[00:28] <iehusha> and For record if anyone is having synaptic issue with advanced touchpad setting on Aspire A515-51 series laptop it works Fanominal after SSD inst, so COnfig BIOS to use BASIC touchpad if on HDD
[00:28] <kostkon> pos, do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[00:28] <TJ-> pos: everyone here is volunteers
[00:28] <pos> yes and ok
[00:29] <wagle> running u1804.  up to minutes ago, my chroot into an old u1404 disk image had access to the net.  now it doesn't..  any ideas?
[00:29] <pos> any idea when package crew is gonna feel like testing the water with microcode that became public over a month ago?
[00:29] <akk> I never could get the synaptic configured usably on my asus, I ended up disabling it entirely and mapping F1-F3 to be mouse buttons
[00:29] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | wagle
[00:29] <TJ-> wagle: does 14.04 /etc/resolv.conf have a valid entry?
[00:29] <Chatterly> Wonderful thank you TJ shows ----i------------ now.
[00:29] <akk> which confuses other people no end, so nobody ever wants to borrow my laptop.
[00:30] <wagle> TJ-: it doesnt now..
[00:30] <bunnyman> Hello All, question?
[00:30] <TJ-> wagle: can the chroot  ping IP addresses?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> ask bunnyman :)
[00:31] <wagle> I bet the chcp lease expired while I was in the chroot
[00:31] <TJ-> wagle: I assumed from your question you'd checked the host was OK :)
[00:31] <wagle> i saw resolv.conf was empty, tried to dhcpclient, and that didnt work
[00:31] <ubuntufan> Is this an ok place to ask for help or no?
[00:32] <wagle> the host is fine
[00:32] <TJ-> wagle: chroot doesn't have separate networking stack so dhcp isn't going to be an issue
[00:32] <bunnyman> so there was a driver for a Netgear Wireless USB adapter - it was originally make for Ubuntu 15.04, I was able to edit it for 17.10, It works verifying right now it works. How can I share this driver so other people won't go through the rough time I did modifying it.
[00:33] <TJ-> wagle: so can the chroot ping an IP address?
[00:33] <wagle> i tracerouted fine
[00:33] <TJ-> wagle: if so, then the issue the DNS resolver was changed
[00:33] <bunnyman> I mean isn't that the point of Linux lol
[00:33] <wagle> yeah, dns seemed hosed
[00:33] <TJ-> wagle: so maybe you caused resolvconf to re-generate /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf (which is pointed to by the /etc/resolv.conf symlink)
[00:34] <wagle> lemme try something
[00:34] <akk> bunnyman: If the code doesn't have an open source license but is freely available, one option is to make a patch containing the changes you made
[00:34] <akk> bunnyman: since you can't legally distribute their code, but you can tell people where to download it and how to apply your patch.
[00:34] <bunnyman> I think it's Open Source, let me check
[00:34] <TJ-> bunnyman: wrap it as a DKMS module and publish it via an Ubuntu Launchpad PPA
[00:35] <akk> If it's open source, then you can put it on github, or put a tarball on a website, or anything you want.
[00:35] <bunnyman> let me check cause it originally was apart of a Git repo
[00:36] <bunnyman> https://github.com/jurobystricky/Netgear-A6210
[00:36] <akk> If it's in a git repo, the best thing to do is fork the repo on github
[00:36] <akk> then check in your changes to your version
[00:36] <akk> and also send a pull request to the owner of the original repo
[00:36] <wagle> rebooting in case something is out of sync with updates
[00:37] <bunnyman> sorry guys I'm new so I would go to the git website...and fork the repo?
[00:37] <wagle> TJ-: thanks..  if I still have problem, will chat in #ubuntu+1
[00:38] <akk> bunnyman: It means you'll have your own copy of their repo, and you can make changes to your copy. Some documentation: https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo/
[00:38] <akk> bunnyman: Then a "pull request" means you've made improvements to your version of the repo, and you want the original ("upstream") github repo to include your changes.
[00:38] <leftyfb> !ask | ubuntufan
[00:39] <akk> bunnyman: https://help.github.com/articles/about-pull-requests/
[00:43] <tomreyn> bunnyman: looks like a couple other folks also forked it: https://github.com/jurobystricky/Netgear-A6210/network
[00:43] <bunnyman> Okay did it -
[00:44] <bunnyman> https://github.com/bunnyman13/Netgear-A6210
[00:45] <bunnyman> Thanks everyone for the help - I feel like apart of a community -
[00:45] <bunnyman> now for some Nutella, and Avengers Age of Ultron -
[01:13] <miigotu> Hi all, I have an odd question
[01:15] <miigotu> My wifi card has a burnt contact so sometime I get dc and some kernel errors. If I tap the kb a bit and modprobe -r iwlmvm and iwlwifi I can get it unstuck in the kernel but the interface has been removed with the modprobe. How can I bring it back without a reboot? restarting networking doesnt cut it
[01:16] <miigotu> really getting annoying having to reboot in the middle of work while I wait for this new wifi card to arrive lol
[01:16] <VTCoder> miligotu did you try to check solution at askubuntu?
[01:17] <miigotu> yeah ive searched around and it doesnt seem like anything explains what to do after a modprobe reload of a kernel module
[01:17] <miigotu> Im an experienced linux user so this should be easy imo, but its just not lol
[01:20] <akk> I usually do this sequence: mark the interface down with ifconfig or ip, unload the module, modprobe it to reload, then ifconfig or ip to mark it up again.
[01:20] <akk> With my wifi card (which is unfortunately broadcom) that works, but maybe it's different with different modules.
[01:21] <akk> How are you seeing that the interface has been removed? It doesn't show up in ifconfig -a or the ip equivalent command?
[01:22] <miigotu> both with ifconfig and ip link. It does show with lspci -v
[01:22] <miigotu> and the kernel module is listed as loaded for it
[01:22] <miigotu> the interface has no label though so I cannot even try to up/down it
[01:25] <miigotu> lspci shows it marked as "disabled" after I modprobe -r
[01:25] <akk> Just making sure: ifconfig -a doesn't show it? It's not just ifconfig that doesn't?
[01:25] <miigotu> no, ifconfig -a does not show it, only lspci -v which shows it as disabled
[01:25] <miigotu> so I guess I need to know how to enable it in the kernel after a module reload
[01:25] <TJ-> miigotu: you 'modprobe -r ...' then I presume reinsert the modules with 'modprobe ...' ?
[01:26] <akk> Oh, hmm -- have you checked rfkill?
[01:26] <akk> Could rfkill be blocking it after it's unloaded?
[01:26] <TJ-> akk: possibly, the kill node is provided by the kernel module
[01:26] <miigotu> TJ-, thats what I did, after you modprobe it is set as disabled and ifconfig/ip/network-manager doesnt even see it
[01:27] <TJ-> miigotu: where do you see this 'disabled' ?
[01:27] <akk> I think ifconfig/ip will omit interfaces if rfkill is blocking them.
[01:27] <TJ-> miigotu: have you checked 'dmesg' to see what errors if any are reported?
[01:27] <miigotu> akk, I can try and check rfkill after a modprobe here shortly, but it will dc me haha
[01:28] <miigotu> TJ-, in lspci -v, something like "Memory at df200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] [disabled]"
[01:28] <TJ-> miigotu: ahhh, so one of the device BARs - that suggests the hardware is in a bad state, which is why a reboot is needed to reset it
[01:28] <TJ-> miigotu: however, it being a PCI device, you could force a rescan.
[01:29] <TJ-> miigotu: can you "pastebinit <( lspci -nn )"
[01:29] <miigotu> yes, there is a problem with the connector on my mpcie, so sometimes it doesnt get a good enough connection and the kernel sees it as a stuck fifo
[01:30] <miigotu> I can, but currently the wifi is in a working stae lol
[01:30] <TJ-> does the lspci command kill it ?
[01:31] <miigotu> nope
[01:31] <TJ-> so why can't you pastebin the output?
[01:31] <miigotu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FFVxYGmTy4/
[01:31] <TJ-> ahhh, here we go
[01:31] <miigotu> I cant, just making sure you weren't looking for information that would be there if it were in a broken state
[01:31] <miigotu> I can*
[01:32] <miigotu> pci rescan and then a reload of the interfaces I guess would be what I need. Just want to avoid the reboot if I can
[01:32] <TJ-> miigotu: so you can try this: "echo 1 | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:02\:00.0/reset" -- if 'reset' doesn't help try 'rescan'
[01:33] <miigotu> Ok, Ill save that and try to make it boot me again lol. Thats the annoying part of trying to fix it because I never know when it will happen
[01:34] <TJ-> miigotu: if that works you could write a script to do all the steps automatically if the device fails
[01:34] <TJ-> miigotu: it could even detect the failure and do it before you realise
[01:34] <miigotu> If that does work, would restarting network-manager be enough after that?
[01:35] <TJ-> N.M. will see the interface return and do it's thing
[01:35] <Mr_Cyclops> Hi. I am using Ubuntu Budgie. I changed the font in the system settings, but the fonts on the desktop are till the system defaullt
[01:35] <Mr_Cyclops> any clues? thank you
[01:35] <miigotu> Yeah ill script it for sure, even if I have to manually call it once I notice it
[01:35] <purple1> speaking of wifi
[01:35] <purple1> looks like each distro has it's own in the wild firmware is there any way to extract these for examination
[01:35] <purple1> otherwise most firmware require a windows binary for programming
[01:36] <Mr_Cyclops> Ubuntu Budgie 17.10
[01:36] <TJ-> miigotu: You shouldn't need to kick N.M. if the connection is configured to auto-connect when available
[01:36] <miigotu> Thanks for the help, Ill pop back in if it works or doesnt =P
[01:36] <TJ-> purple1: most firmware comes from the linux-firmare project repo
[01:36] <miigotu> Oh ok, I wasnt sure how it would behave with a hotplugged device that wasnt designed to be hotpluggable lol
[01:36] <TJ-> miigotu: great, it'd be good to know if it works
[01:38] <miigotu> purple1, if some distro has firmware you cant tell where it is coming from I would be worried. Its open source for a reason =P
[01:59] <thehebs> anyone recommend a good vscode extension for doing web dev on a remote linux server. like something that syncs files over sftp etc...
[01:59] <thehebs> ive seen a couple but they kinda suck
[01:59] <thehebs> and i saw another one that doesnt use sftp, but it only does 1 file at a time
[02:13] <purple1> The first time I tasted my own blood was born the definition of bittersweet, so what defines a definition , I do.
[02:19] <oerheks>  NO leap second will be introduced at the end of June 2018.
[02:21] <Mister_X> hello
[02:22] <Mister_X> how do you disable ubuntu 16.04 from sending mdns over the network?
[02:22] <Mister_X> I've uninstalled avahi-daemon, rebooted and it's still doing it
[02:22] <Mister_X> second question, what service sends ssdp over the network?
[02:24] <hsoshipeng> hello everyone
[02:27] <hsoshipeng> hello
[02:34] <zanshin> Mister_X: https://askubuntu.com/questions/378572/how-to-turn-off-the-multicast-dns-and-multicast-upnp-services-in-ubuntu#434773
[02:35] <Mister_X> zanshin, as mentioned, I removed avahi-daemon
[02:35] <Mister_X> apt-get purge avahi-daemon
[02:36] <zanshin> Mister_X: That's not what that link says to do. It suggests changing the avahi daemon configuration so that it doesn't run.
[02:37] <Mister_X> my point is that having it removed does the same as having it disabled
[02:37] <Mister_X> if not more
[02:38] <Mister_X> I'm wondering why I still see that traffic
[02:38] <zanshin> Mister_X: Did you reboot after removing it?
[02:39] <oerheks> systemctl disable avahi-daemon and systemctl disable avahi-service should do on 16.04
[02:39] <Mister_X> yes
[02:39] <Mister_X> oh well
[02:40] <Mister_X> thanks anyway
[03:33] <tfitts> anyone here have experience setting up KVM virtual machines with bridged networking and dhcp?  I feel like I've got the bridge setup on my host but my VM Guests don't connect to the network when I try changing their network  type to bridged
[03:37] <allizom> tfitts: do you use virt-manager and NetworkManager?
[03:38] <tfitts> it's ubuntu server so I'm using kimchi
[03:41] <allizom> I don't know what that is. How do you manage the network (e.g. networking, NetworkManager, etc.)?
[03:42] <allizom> I suppose you should create the bridge on the host and then use it as a connection on the VM
[03:43] <allizom> oh, you said that. But still, how are you doing it?
[03:48] <tfitts> I created the bridge through /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <tfitts> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[03:48] <tfitts> basically how it's listed there
[03:53] <allizom> tfitts: what happens if you set the vm connection to the bridge, and only then start the vm? I'm saying this because, from memory, I had some issues when reconnecting an already powered on vm
[03:55] <tfitts> that's what I've been trying.  It gets no IP and even manually assigning it doesn't work.  It's basically like when a network cable is physically plugged in to a switch and there's nothing else on the switch.
[03:57] <allizom> stupid question maybe, is your network card really eth0 like in the example?
[03:58] <tfitts> no, it's eno1 but I changed that in my config
[04:00] <allizom> I'm not sure what the issue may be. An usual advice may be checking "systemctl status networking"
[04:01] <allizom> this is assuming you've correctly followed the steps in the guide you linked to
[04:02] <tfitts> it's up fine
[04:06] <allizom> tfitts: there are some things you may want to double-check (e.g. you have bridge-utils installed, you have restarted the service, ...) I'm afraid I can't help much more if this is already the case. You could try asking in #ubuntu-server, or in some other channel related to virtualization
[04:06] <tfitts> I'll try that.  I've definitely covered all the basic stuff
[04:32] <thoidingjam> join ##oxytocin
[04:35] <steven__> i ned help installing nvidia driver 390.42 iv ben having truble installing it
[04:43] <steven__> how do i install a .run file i want to install the latest nvidia driver
[04:46] <mateothegreat> chmod +x *.run; ./*.run
[04:54] <Bashing-om> steven__: Nvidia discourages that : " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.
[04:54] <Bashing-om> "
[04:56] <steven__> well i was told for runing games its beter to use the drivers that are most up todate from the nvidia site rather then the ones suplyed bye ubuntu that are out of date
[04:56] <Bashing-om> steven__: How do you know that the 390 version driver is correct for your card ?
[04:56] <steven__> and seeing how the drivers ubuntu are giving are 2 years out of date i wold aree
[04:56] <Bashing-om> steven__: we have a PPA that povides that latest driver .. and is tested !
[04:57] <Bashing-om> provides*
[04:59] <fxnoob> hello, I need help installing ubuntu, I cannot even boot installer
[04:59] <fxnoob> ryzen 5 2400 G
[05:00] <steven__> is there a masage to it?
[05:00] <fxnoob> yes, something with AMD-vi and hangs
[05:00] <ray> What error message do you get?
[05:00] <fxnoob> I can try to boot again and make a picture of error
[05:01] <fxnoob> 18.04 beta
[05:02] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | fxnoob .. seek the help in this support channel :
[05:05]  * mr_lou is sad this bug report "expired": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1737671
[05:05] <mr_lou> It still isn't fixed.
[05:07] <fxnoob> in +1 channel everybody sleeps :).. Should I make a pic of error?
[05:08] <fxnoob> normal usb boot hangs with black screen, uefi usb boot gives the errors
[05:36] <limbo_> Is it possible to use wayland in the latest ubuntu if I'm using propietary nvidia drivers?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 issues
[05:40] <Bashing-om> limbo_: yes and no - can your card take the 390 version driver / This driver was released yesterday and several advise it is now fixed in that version .
[05:44] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: latest as in 17.10
[05:44] <limbo_> Bashing-om: No idea. It's a 1070.
[05:46] <Bashing-om> limbo_: pastebin - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - will check and see if 390 will work .
[05:47] <limbo_> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0fdde438/
[05:50] <Bashing-om> limbo_: Yepper, try it and see ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' reboot to see the effect .
[05:52] <limbo_> How long will it take for those drivers to come to the regular install?
[06:07] <Bashing-om> limbo_: Not sure - ??
[06:12] <TABS_Network> Anybody have a thought on Ubuntu's 10.04 version?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> yes.  10.04 is dead and not supported.
[06:12] <TABS_Network> lol, sorry, my bad.  I mean 18.04
[06:13] <cfhowlett> discuss in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <TABS_Network> Ok. Cheers cfhowlett
[06:13] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:16] <Bashing-om> limbo_: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2385770&page=5 maybe the patched driver is in the repo .
[06:17] <purple1> xubuntu 16.4.3 how to trace the input interface for keyboard
[06:18] <purple1> does onboard and the hard keyboard use the same interface?
[06:18] <purple1> need security by biversity
[06:19] <purple1> defence protocol biverse input method
[06:19] <purple1> after a previous boot showd skipped input chars during a session
[06:20] <purple1> previous mainline ubuntu appeared to fry sdcard
[06:21] <purple1> can this be verified
[06:21] <purple1> enoch85__: send privmsg
[06:22] <purple1> last supporter complained about the customizations
[06:22] <purple1> doesn't matter to me which linux is used so long as my software cooperates
[06:23] <purple1> how to rip out sound support it sounds like a tincan echo anyhow
[06:23] <purple1> doesnt play google voice well
[06:24] <purple1> it needs to be ripped completely out
[06:24] <purple1> if it doesnt play networked audio it is nearly useless
[06:57] <kuze01> general chat channel?
[07:00] <EriC^^> kuze01: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <kuze01> thank you
[07:01] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:11] <ryder_> hi
[07:25] <RAI> hii
[07:25] <RAI> i am back
[07:28] <rud0lf> "hii i am back - Client Quit"
[07:40] <Orbitur> How could I set a script to run whenever Unity logs out?
[07:40] <rud0lf> hint: something with dbus
[07:40] <rud0lf> i have a script for session lock/unlock
[07:41] <Orbitur> Can you post that script? I may be able to modify it to suit my needs
[07:41] <rud0lf> hold on
[07:43] <rud0lf> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QDyJBzNdPk/
[07:44] <Orbitur> thank you!
[07:46] <rud0lf> https://askubuntu.com/questions/720380/how-can-i-run-a-local-command-to-run-a-script-on-just-before-log-out-of-a-un?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[07:46] <rud0lf> this one may help too
[07:47] <u0_a114> hi
[07:49] <clap> Hi everyone
[07:49] <Leader> hi
[07:50] <Shin_Aska> hi
[07:50] <clap> Iam new in here, and i from Indonesia
[07:52] <clap> exit
[08:01] <f00lest> is there a way to create sudo user environments that are not in any way connected, without a dual boot?
[08:04] <vlt> f00lest: Can you explain what you mean by “sudo user environment”?
[08:04] <f00lest> vlt here's what happened ...
[08:04] <f00lest> I installed some packages using sudo
[08:04] <f00lest> sudo apt-get *
[08:05] <f00lest> so these packages will be the same for every user
[08:05] <f00lest> I want a way so that if I create a user all those installations do not exist
[08:05] <f00lest> and it feels like a fresh install
[08:06] <ducasse> f00lest: use containers
[08:06] <f00lest> I didn't know that
[08:06] <ducasse> f00lest: or virtual machines
[08:06] <f00lest> ducasse virtual machines not gonna work
[08:06] <f00lest> I use my env for game dev
[08:07] <ducasse> f00lest: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/
[08:07] <f00lest> and my laptop isn't that powerful
[08:07] <ducasse> lxd containers are pretty lightweight
[08:09] <f00lest> ducasse I'm trying it now online
[08:10] <f00lest> looks pretty cool
[08:12] <f00lest> ducasse if I messup the root, it'll be still fine on the outside right
[08:12] <f00lest> last time I installed some software that should not be installed as root
[08:12] <f00lest> and I did and now I am reinstalling 16 04
[08:12] <ducasse> yup, you can just delete that container and start a fresh one
[08:13] <f00lest> awesome!
[08:14] <f00lest> I'll do a fresh install and put my new project in a container then
[08:14] <f00lest> network is the same, it uses the same ip as the machine?
[08:16] <f00lest> ducasse, does it use the same ip as the machine?
[08:17] <ducasse> you can set it up with a separate ip, so it appears to the network as a totally different host
[08:17] <f00lest> good to know there is a way to do so
[08:17] <f00lest> ducasse and vlt thanks a lot fellas
[08:18] <f00lest> buh bye!
[08:28] <soshiant> i want link download repository for ubuntu trusty
[08:42] <NewUser> anyone able to help - trying to install lubuntu on a Surface Pro 4 from a live usb; UEFI doesn't seem to recognise the usb
[08:47] <NewUser> Do I have to do anything special to request help here?
[08:47] <SwedeMike> !ask
[08:48] <guiverc> NewUser, use Ubuntu if that qualifies you as special :)
[08:48] <SwedeMike> NewUser: so describe the problem in as much detail as possible, it makes the chance higher of someone being able to help.
[08:49] <SwedeMike> NewUser: https://askubuntu.com/questions/791976/installing-ubuntu-on-surface-pro-4
[08:49] <NewUser> Surface Pro 4 UEFI is not recognising the Lubuntu LiveUSB; or, it recognises it about one in 100 times.
[08:50] <SwedeMike> NewUser: https://blog.hackdesk.com/running-ubuntu-on-micro-sd-card-on-surface-pro-4-dfe9e38e17e1
[08:51] <SwedeMike> NewUser: "Go to “Security” > “Secure Boot” > “change configuration”, select “None” and “Next”."
[08:51] <NewUser> yep, secure boot has been turned off
[08:52] <NewUser> if I manually make it boot from usb, it restarts and goes straight back to the UEFI config page
[08:55] <NewUser>  It is just weird that it has worked like once, two days ago, and that was only after restarting a number of times
[09:05] <cryptospider> hello
[09:12] <amy_dark> hello
[09:29] <Kharma> What does this mean from Ubuntu Package Manager.. "W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)"
[09:31] <cfhowlett> are you running the command as root?
[09:45] <Kharma> @cfhowlett - Yes I am, I am the only user on this computer
[09:46] <cfhowlett> running as root will cause unpredictable and strange results - including breakage
[09:47] <cfhowlett> use sudo instead
[09:51] <Allanis> Hmz. Somehow my DPI button got stuck in. Is there a way I can disable it via software?
[09:55] <lovilr> hello
[09:55] <lovilr> what is intel PCH sound card vs nvidia sound card..why do I have both on HP pro
[09:58] <MtotheM> nvidia is most likely hdmi audio. lovilr
[10:01] <lovilr> so I have two GPUs?
[10:01] <lovilr> because of two sound cards
[10:10] <tomreyn> lovilr: you seem to have a second sound card on your nvidia card. but this doesn't mean you have two gpu's. you may or may not have intel discrete graphics (you probably do) in addition to the vidia graphics.
[10:11] <tomreyn> lovilr: you can run 'lspci | grep VGA' to find out
[10:43] <formica> 7
[10:50] <VTCoder_> Hi all
[10:53] <bing> ./livecd
[10:53] <bing> ./boot
[10:53] <bing> its not working
[10:53] <cfhowlett> details??
[11:30] <nullbyte_> i have removed /var/cache/* how can i restore it
[11:32] <nullbyte_> who knows
[11:32] <nullbyte_> ?
[11:32] <etman_> hello, good day :)  my name is ahmad i am just beginner in drools and i just looking for examples for sub process example for each type, any help
[11:33] <cfhowlett> topic here is ubuntu support, etman_ .  perhaps do an alis search for a more precise channel
[11:33] <nullbyte_> ?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !restore
[11:42] <nullbyte_> Err:6 file:/var/cuda-repo-9-0-local  Release
[11:42] <nullbyte_>   File not found - /var/cuda-repo-9-0-local/Release (2: No such file or directory)
[11:42] <nullbyte_> how can i remove this
[11:43] <nullbyte_> !restore
[11:43] <nullbyte_> how?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> nullbyte_, you did back up those files before you deleted them, right?
[11:47] <nullbyte_> cfhowlett: what u mean
[11:49] <cfhowlett> you said you deleted files from /var/.  no reason to do this by accident and few reasons to do so deliberately.  I assume you made a backup first.
[11:49] <nullbyte_> yes but no
[11:49] <cfhowlett> unwise
[11:49] <nullbyte_> Err:6 file:/var/cuda-repo-9-0-local  Release this from apt-get update
[11:49] <nullbyte_> and i have removed /var/cache* with rm -rf /var/cache* and now i don't have cache
[11:50] <nullbyte_> and/var/cuda-repo-9-0-local/Release still there in apt-get update
[11:50] <nullbyte_> that's it
[11:50] <cfhowlett> what led you to do this?  your goal?
[11:50] <nullbyte_> so if i remove cuda-repo-9-0-local/Release from apt-get maybe i will fix it
[11:55] <cfhowlett> sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:55] <cfhowlett> sudo touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <cfhowlett> sudo chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get clean
[12:02] <MartinLewis> Hello, I have a G25 steering wheel and I'm wondering if anyone has setup their wheel in ubuntu
[12:02] <MartinLewis> It's detected but the calibration isn't set correctly and it defaults to -90*
[12:10] <f00lest> hey guys I've got a question about lxd
[12:10] <f00lest> can some one help
[12:12] <f00lest> any one?
[12:12] <ducasse> f00lest: try #lxcontainers
[12:12] <f00lest> thanks ducasse
[12:44] <severnfold> guys my apt-get isnt working any ideas?
[12:45] <severnfold> guys my apt-get isnt working any ideas?
[12:45] <severnfold> guys my apt-get isnt working any ideas?
[12:45] <severnfold> guys my apt-get isnt working any ideas?
[12:45] <severnfold> help! lol
[12:46] <Kharma> What is not working about it, exactly?
[12:46] <severnfold> when i try to use it i get an error stating "apt-get command not found"
[12:47] <severnfold> im using mac os
[12:47] <ducasse> ok, stop trolling, please
[12:47] <severnfold> it was working before and now its not, ive updated python, ruby, macports and brew
[12:48] <severnfold> but still get the same error
[12:48] <severnfold> also when i use locate apt-get i get an error stating the database does not exist
[12:49] <severnfold> the error also stated to use
[12:49] <severnfold> sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locate.plist
[12:49] <severnfold> to create the database, which i did, but still returning the same command not found error
[12:50] <severnfold> apologies for asking in an ubuntu forum about mac os but considering theyre both unix based i figured you guys may be able to offer some insight into whats going on
[12:51] <ducasse> we only support ubuntu here
[12:52] <severnfold> no problem ducasse: thanks
[12:55] <orangeman> hello all, from armbian on an OrangePi 2plus
[12:57] <orangeman> any experiences getting codeblocks running on armbian?
[12:58] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, This support channel is for Ubuntu, please check with the documentation of your linux distribution for it's dedicated support forum.
[12:59] <orangeman> hello pragma, as far as I understand it is ubuntu that I am running
[12:59] <ducasse> orangeman: didn't you just say it was armbian?
[12:59] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, you said you are running armbian. I distribution I have not heard of before
[13:00] <orangeman> yes, armbian as far as I understand is ubuntu adapted for arm and in particular for the orange pi in this case
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, it is not
[13:00] <ducasse> so, it's not ubuntu any more
[13:01] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, unfortunately, orange-pc has mislabeled and misdirected you with the linux distro they offer. They have modified it in such a way that we cannot support it in this forum.
[13:02] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, at the moment the only support channel I can find for them is their website: https://forum.armbian.com/
[13:03] <orangeman> pragma, the manufacturer-provided systems were no good anyway. I am using an image directly from the armbian crowd, completely independent from the manufacturer and it works great compared to the "official" images
[13:03] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, we cannot support it here. The only Ubuntu installation we support are the ones found at https://www.ubuntu.com
[13:05] <orangeman> "support"?? I thought this was about chatting about and around the issues
[13:05] <pragmaticenigma> orangeman, read the room topic
[13:05] <orangeman> but thanks for trying
[13:05] <ducasse> this is a support channel, chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:08] <pragmaticenigma> and I just found the support channel for #codeblocks too
[13:15] <magiq> oh my god, in chrome there was turned off hardware acceleration
[13:16] <magiq> because "unsupported system configuration"
[13:16] <magiq> why the fuck amd hd 7950 unsupported ?
[13:17] <magiq> every day I feel the pain but dont know actually whats wrong with my browser
[13:17] <doge-doge> I believe firefox still disables hw acceleration by default for linux because of issues
[13:17] <magiq> I dont sure, but seems acceleration even affect on scrolling
[13:18] <magiq> And I support sometimes PC freez because browser laging whole the system
[13:18] <doge-doge> the preference in firefox is pretty obfuscated...checking "use recommended performance settings" may mean hw acceleration is indeed off
[13:18] <magiq> *I suppose
[13:18] <magiq> omg my english is awefull
[13:19] <doge-doge> your browser is lagging your whole system?
[13:20] <doge-doge> like what sites
[13:20] <magiq> some times rarely there is some freez
[13:20] <magiq> as I can see some random sites but I dont sure
[13:20] <magiq> but when browser off I mention(again not sure) that freez not happen
[13:21] <doge-doge> I'd recommend finding a basic conky configuration and keep an eye on it for cpu and ram spikes
[13:21] <magiq> also some sort of sites for example coub.com lags without accelaration
[13:21] <doge-doge> I never run linux without a conky sidebar running
[13:22] <magiq> what is it ?
[13:22] <doge-doge> take a weekend off and learn all about it. You'll definitely thank me later
[13:22] <magiq> I feeling that every day I used ubuntu my beard grows
[13:22] <magiq> *I am using
[13:23] <magiq> I use
[13:23] <magiq> I dont sure about this sentence
[13:23] <magiq> Few times I even want to delete it
[13:23] <magiq> but I read about ubuntu on medium some guy
[13:23] <magiq> with so positive thinks
[13:24] <magiq> *opinion
[13:24] <doge-doge> ubuntu mate is a good starting point as well
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> !info indicator-multiload
[13:24] <magiq> it's not starting
[13:24] <magiq> actually it's third or fourth switch
[13:25] <magiq> but bugs force me to install windows again
[13:25] <magiq> last time I install some desktop environment that bug with two login screens
[13:25] <magiq> desktop ui
[13:25] <magiq> or how it can be called
[13:26] <doge-doge> luks decryption screen + lightdm login screen?
[13:26] <magiq> screen with login to ubuntu
[13:27] <magiq> two screens for two desktop ui, that happened only after sleep. After reboot working fine
[13:27] <muhammed> sa
[13:27] <doge-doge> side by side?
[13:27] <magiq> nope
[13:28] <doge-doge> one after another?
[13:28] <magiq> in sequence
[13:28] <magiq> yep
[13:28] <magiq> yesterdey I try to install amdgpu because I even dont know that ubuntu actually become with default gpu driver
[13:28] <magiq> so amdgpu-pro cause black screen
[13:28] <jaydemir> evolution-calendar keeps running its processes and eating my RAM despite me uninstalling it six ways from sunday
[13:28] <jaydemir> what do I do?
[13:28] <scope> .
[13:29] <scope> sa
[13:29] <magiq> because it support only ubuntu 16, but some guys install it well on ubuntu 17
[13:29] <scope> sa
[13:29] <muhammed> as
[13:29] <doge-doge> the pro drivers are extremely unsupported
[13:29] <muhammed> as hocam
[13:29] <doge-doge> I learned that the hard way
[13:29] <muhammed> buralar değerlenir
[13:29] <muhammed> rez alın
[13:29] <muhammed> .d
[13:29] <scope> :D
[13:29] <scope> curl parrot.live
[13:29] <scope> :D
[13:30] <scope> otun
[13:30] <doge-doge> even Arch distances themselves from the pro driver: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU#AMDGPU_PRO
[13:30] <muhammed> efendim
[13:30] <muhammed> kenks
[13:30] <magiq> also I connect my speakers to monitor that connected by hdmi. So after sleep I need to launch sound settings to be able hear sound
[13:31] <muhammed> hi emre
[13:31] <scope> hý gus
[13:31] <muhammed> what are you doing
[13:31] <muhammed> my bro
[13:31] <scope> guys :d
[13:31] <scope> i learning ubuntu bro
[13:31] <scope> and you?
[13:31] <muhammed> me too
[13:31] <muhammed> very hard
[13:31] <magiq> I know Kung-fu (C)
[13:32] <ducasse> scope: muhammed: stick to support questions, please
[13:32] <magiq> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMO3XmNXe4
[13:32] <doge-doge> learning linux is like learning the piano, eventually you'll know the basic keys
[13:32] <magiq> doge-doge: what can you say about sound bug ?
[13:32] <magiq> that I mention before
[13:32] <magiq> *mentioned
[13:33] <doge-doge> I'm assuming pulseaudio still has issues with sleep/wake cycles. I never sleep my system, either always on or complete shutdown
[13:34] <doge-doge> launching the sound settings is basically akin to restarting the pulseaudio daemon
[13:37] <magiq> That I'm talking about, I must know all this things like "pulseaudio", for now I dont even know that is that
[13:37] <doge-doge> https://youtu.be/T4kBRC2co7Y?t=2m8s
[13:40] <Kharma> I'm also having trouble with PulseAudio! Thought it was my
[13:40] <Kharma> me*
[13:40] <magiq> https://askubuntu.com/questions/776883/pulseaudio-drops-hdmi-output-at-screen-power-save
[13:40] <magiq> this is work around of this bug
[13:41] <Kharma> It's on.. but not on.
[13:43] <compdoc> snap is so cool
[13:43] <akk> Even alsa seems to have trouble keeping hdmi sound on. I have a machine with alsa and no pulseaudio that drops hdmi if there's no sound for a while.
[13:56] <thewillo> Hi, I installed Lubuntu with automatic login. I would like to switch to Enlightenment, how would I do that?
[13:57] <thewillo> I want enlightenment to start at boot without a login prompt
[14:00] <pragmaticenigma> thewillo, Enlightenment desktop is not one of the supported desktop managers and we cannot support it if you install it on your machine. This article appears to have the how-to install enlightenment. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/05/install-enlightenment-0-21-8-in-ubuntu-16-04-17-04/ ... Installing from 3rd party PPAs is not supported and we will be limited on what we can support here at #ubuntu
[14:01] <thewillo> pragmaticenigma, it is not in a 3rd party PPA it's in the official repos under the package name e17. but I'll check the link you sent
[14:02] <pragmaticenigma> thewillo, My apologies and thank you for the correction. I would recommend sticking to the e17 (I didn't know that was how it was listed)
[14:02] <thewillo> pragmaticenigma, thank you for your time, I will refer to the article for instructions
[14:03] <pragmaticenigma> thewillo, "sudo apt install e17" will initiate the installation. Then all you will need to do is log out and on the login screen choose the enlightenment desktop. Once you are satisfied everything is working we can assist on the auto-login
[14:03] <thewillo> oh, that link doesn't tell you how to set up another DE as default when you have automatic login. How would I do that? I assume the directions are generic for any DE
[14:04] <thewillo> oh okay, thanks\
[14:05] <thewillo> okay, logging out, brb
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> Hello BluesKaj
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Hi pragmaticenigma
[14:18] <Kumool> i just installed bitlbee, it seems that service start bitlbee sends a flag to it which overrides the configuration file, how do you edit this?
[14:21] <Kumool> is modifying the /etc/init.d file a bad idea?
[14:23] <theorchid> hello, thewillo again... does anyone know how to use connman?
[14:24] <theorchid> the autologin selects last DE as default, but e17 uses connman instead of network-manager and I'm not getting dns resolving
[14:24] <theorchid> I have networking but no dns
[14:25] <Kumool> wait what, this is all wrong, its in fork mode, and it only identifies one pidfile, this script is terrible
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool, you should not need to edit /etc/init.d
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool, disregard that comment
[14:27] <theorchid>  how do I manually set DNS normally?
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool, this might help you figure out what might be going wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> theorchid, I'm uncertain is to why connman is now the default network management tool instead of NetworkManager... I'm trying to search for an answer but not having much luck. Does normal internet operations resume if you switch back to the previous Desktop Environment?
[14:29] <theorchid> pragmaticenigma, e17 told me to install it
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> theorchid, I understand, but I want to verify what might be the root cause of the issue. If you go back to the previous desktop environmnet, we can start to figure out just what triggers the problem and work to resolve it from there
[14:30] <Kumool> pragmaticenigma, i fixed it by modifying /etc/init.d/bitlbee
[14:30] <Kumool> which is a terrible idea
[14:31] <Kumool> there shouldnt even be a $BITLBEE_OPTS since all the options are in the configuration file which you must edit manually
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool, I'd send a bug report
[14:32] <Kumool> don't know how
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool, Ubuntu tracks all bug submissions via https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ... there you will be able to search for any existing bugs that might be similar to yours and append your report to another. You will also be able to report a bug as well. Parse a few existing bug reports to get a feel of what you should submit. At the very least when you write your report, it should have a copy of the changes to you
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> configuration file (before/after) to help the team determine if it's a bug or what the next step forward is.
[14:42] <giggios> Hi all
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> hello giggios
[14:45] <riqdiiz> Ubuntu has bugs too! I thought was a windows thing!
[14:45] <francis> bug firefox ubuntu mate raspberry
[14:45] <riqdiiz> not so many I guess
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> perfection is not of this world
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> riqdiiz, francis : this is a support channel, do you have a support related question, please ask. If you would like to chat about Ubuntu please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:49] <riqdiiz> monkeydust hi.pragmaticenigma got you bro.
[14:54] <hanetzer> hey folks. Were I to want to snatch a debian package from a location listed in a sources.list file (in this case, 'deb http://twinmoons.org.uk/apt/rel stretch main'), what would i need to do to transform that into a wgetttable url?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> hanetzer  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:56] <hanetzer> MonkeyDust: not ubuntu, that's what :)
[14:56] <hanetzer> I'm just looking to grab an existing ubuntu package to see how they lay it out.
[15:04] <nmcli_help> when i use "nmcli connection edit" to create/edit a connection i get the following error when i try to save "Error: connection verification failed: 802-1x.eap: property is missing". But i dont want to use EAP on the connection how can i disable or set the option to off? it only happens if i view the 802-x1 settings with the command "goto 802-1x". I am trying to understand why this behaviour happens and
[15:04] <nmcli_help> what i am doing wrong
[15:06] <walker> hi
[15:12] <tomreyn> nmcli_help: do you run ubuntu or debian? since you asked on both channels.
[15:13] <nmcli_help> tomreyn: ubuntu 17-10
[15:13] <hanetzer> MonkeyDust: and nevermind, I just realized that I could just build the package using the deprecated eclass, see what it does, then fix it ;)
[15:13] <tomreyn> nmcli_help: then you should not have asked in #debian
[15:14] <nmcli_help> tomreyn: i also asked in #gnome as well? isnt ubuntu a debain derivative and also nmcli is a gnome tool right, what is wrong with this behavour?
[15:16] <tomreyn> nmcli_help: ubuntu is a debian derivative, but they're not the same (actually pretty different nowadays). if you're looking for help with your distribution you should ask in your distro's support channel (only).
[15:17] <nmcli_help> tomreyn: ok thanks for the clarity
[15:18] <nmcli_help> tomreyn: do you also get the same error? do you know how to fix the error
[15:45] <aksmdl> How to remove localhost from resolv.conf ?
[15:49] <tomreyn> nmcli_help: i would not know, can't help there.
[16:09] <GuiToris> in sudoers file can't I specify which specific command parameters can be run?
[16:10] <GuiToris> user ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount -o   won't work
[16:10] <ducasse> GuiToris: just the command, afaik
[16:11] <akk> You could make a script that calls mount but only with certain arguments, and put that but not /bin/mount in sudoers.
[16:11] <GuiToris> ducasse, it works without '-o' but then he'll be able to run any kind of mount commands
[16:11] <GuiToris> akk, good idea, I'll give it a try
[16:12] <akk> Out of curiosity, why do you need mount in sudoers? Do you know about the "user" option in fstab?
[16:13] <GuiToris> akk, hidepid won't work with systemd-logind in ubuntu, and I'm about to make a startupscript which starts it right after the user logged in
[16:24] <kes0> How do i shut down composite manager?
[16:25] <kostkon> !details | kes0
[16:31] <kes0> Iam on ubuntu gnome 16.04 and get screen tearing when i watch movies etc so need to run compton to get rid of that but when i try to start it it say "another composite manager is already running" what is the name of that and how do i close it?
[16:32] <ikonia> what is compton ?
[16:33] <kes0> A compositor for x11
[16:38] <morantron> hi, i'm having jumpy touchpad issues with libinput. I'm using libinput-debug-events and see spikes in the POINTER_MOTION event. any tips on how to debug this? thanks
[16:41] <Guest_01302018>  Hi, I have a problem. When I go to connect my bluetooth keyboard I need enter a password. The xfce notification shows the message of bluetooth with the name and the code to enter, but the code appears cut by three comas, because the complete message is bigger than the notification area. So I cannot see the code. Anyone can help-me?
 When I click in notification or stay mouse over it disappear.
 I think it have two possible solutions, increase the size of notification area or connect bluetooth by the terminal. Someone can help-me?
[16:42] <Guest_01302018> three dots*
[16:44] <kostkon> kes0, gnome shell only works with mutter
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> Guest_01302018, Use the bluetooth manager in system settings to setup your bluetooth device
[16:47] <kes0> kostkon: Ok, gonna check that, thanks
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> kes0, another item you may want to check out is if there are different drivers available for your graphics chipset. or if you have installed drivers for your graphics, that you have the latest ones
[16:52] <iMin3Ra1n> can anyone help me? im trying to install ubuntu on my gaming pc, and an super afraid to mess Windows 10 or any of my RAID drives up. https://imgur.com/a/YMikF
[16:52] <iMin3Ra1n> is anyone even active in here?
[16:53] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | iMin3Ra1n
[16:53] <Guest_01302018> pragmaticenigma, I use the bluetooth  manager, but when I connect the message with the code appears only in the notification area.
[16:53] <iMin3Ra1n> kay, sorry, just super nervous....
[16:53] <Guest_01302018> And I cannot see the code to connect.
[16:54]  * iMin3Ra1n gnaws on his fingernails
[16:54] <Guest17> hello all. i appear to have encountered this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1064151) whilst trying to install ubuntu on my dell xps 15. the workaround does not seem to work for me. i would appreciate any pointers and/or assitance in resolving it.
[16:55] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: You could probably unplug the RAID drives if you're worried about them? Can't help with reassurance on Win 10, though, don't have it.
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> Guest_01302018, try running this command in the terminal without quotes and try to pair again: "gsettings set org.blueman.general notification-daemon false"
[16:55] <iMin3Ra1n> akk, ubuntu seems to have already created partitions on the SSD, would it be unwise to power down now?
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, unless you ran these step prior, the partitions are not written until you click Install Now button
[16:56] <iMin3Ra1n> i did. the partition manager shows the partitions there. when i clicked it, it created then partitions, THEN bothered to tell me one of them were too small
[16:57] <iMin3Ra1n> im gonna try removing the /home partition and enlargen the / partition
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, before you go any further
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, I suggest you use something like Clonezilla to make a full disk back up
[16:57] <iMin3Ra1n> already deleted the /home thing so....
[16:57] <iMin3Ra1n> theres no way to
[16:57] <iMin3Ra1n> i have nothing to back it up to
[16:58] <iMin3Ra1n> fuck
[16:58] <iMin3Ra1n> i cant enlargen the / partition
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> !language | iMin3Ra1n
[16:58] <iMin3Ra1n> im sorry im really sorry please dont kick me
[16:58] <iMin3Ra1n> oh god
[16:59] <iMin3Ra1n> okay so what i did is went back, did "something else", then created one 10GB partition mounted for / on the SSD, bootloader set to install on the SSD as well
[17:00] <iMin3Ra1n> none of the other drives seem to be touched so far
[17:00] <iMin3Ra1n> not going to give it swap because 16GB of ram is way plenty for ubuntu
[17:00] <iMin3Ra1n> god help me if this fails...
[17:02] <iMin3Ra1n> god i love USB 3, so lightning fast. it's at "almost finished copying files" already
[17:04] <iMin3Ra1n> seems as if its purging language stuffs now
[17:04] <iMin3Ra1n> running initramfs-tools now
[17:04] <iMin3Ra1n> okay
[17:04] <iMin3Ra1n> its done, wish me luck
[17:05] <iMin3Ra1n> um, its not letting me press enter
[17:05] <iMin3Ra1n> "Please remove the installation medium, then press enter"
[17:05] <iMin3Ra1n> akk: ping
[17:06] <iMin3Ra1n> i think im just gonna shut it down
[17:06] <iMin3Ra1n> grub seems to be doing dandy... testing ubuntu boot...
[17:07] <iMin3Ra1n> it booted quick and swiftly. okay. rebooting and testing windows....
[17:07] <iMin3Ra1n> YES
[17:07] <iMin3Ra1n> OH MY GOD
[17:09] <_KryDos_> hi everyone. I'm trying to write .desktop file for weechat (cli based irc client) and it actually works. But I want to make it visible with icon I use in the desktop file instead of the terminal icon. Is that possible to do?
[17:09] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, glad it appears to have worked out for you. Though I would recommend next time, finding away to back your system up before playing with partitions. nothing scarying than risking your data
[17:10] <iMin3Ra1n> yeah, agreed.
[17:10] <iMin3Ra1n> gonna smoke a celebratory blunt
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, it is possible, hold on a moment and I locate some instructions
[17:10] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: whew, thanks a lot
[17:11] <iMin3Ra1n> well something is up now...
[17:11] <iMin3Ra1n> it just skips right to windows boot
[17:11] <iMin3Ra1n> no grub
[17:12] <iMin3Ra1n> what do i do?
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, you can add an entry for Icon=/path/to/icon I believe
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> to the .desktop file
[17:12] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: sure I did.
[17:12] <_KryDos_> it didn't help though :(
[17:13] <_KryDos_> sorry, I guess I misslead you
[17:13] <_KryDos_> icon is working
[17:13] <Guest_01302018> pragmaticenigma,  "gsettings set org.blueman.general notification-daemon false" works! Thanks! Now a message box appear with the code! Thank you!
[17:13] <_KryDos_> but in CTRL+TAB section it shows me the terminal icon
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> You're welcome Guest_01302018
[17:13] <_KryDos_> and in the "left-ubuntu-bar" it also has terminal icon
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, the .desktop setting doesn't carry over. since you're launching a terminal window to start your IRC client
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, the application itself has to define the icon for the window manager to display
[17:14] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: :( yeah, I'm sure weechat hasn't defined it
[17:14] <_KryDos_> ok, thanks a lot pragmaticenigma
[17:15] <iMin3Ra1n> pragmaticenigma, did you see my last couple of lines
[17:15] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, unfortunately no. However if you are interested in a simple IRC chat client that is GUI based, HexChat is what I use
[17:15] <Diego_> Hi, I am installing ubuntu on my macbook laptop, it doesnt detect that macos is installed as well for some reasson. I have chosen the partition in which I want to install ubuntu but I have a question, if I choose the apple loader partition as the Device for boot loader installation, will it override it and make it impossible to boot up MacOS? Sorry if this is not the channel where I should be asking this but I couldn't find any other p
[17:15] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, I did, unfortunately I'm not familiar with boot issues. I know there are others here, but they appear away at the moment
[17:15] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: yeah, I was trying to migrate to it but quit this idea just couple of minutes ago due to the fact in weechat I use slack extension.
[17:16] <iMin3Ra1n> okay, dont worry about me then
[17:16] <_KryDos_> hexchat doesn't have it. actually has but it doesn't look so good as it is in weechat
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, I'm keeping an eye out... Silver lining is you haven't lost your windows installation
[17:16] <iMin3Ra1n> lol yeah
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, oh, I didn't know about that
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> _KryDos_, Will that continue to work when Slack removes IRC support?
[17:17] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: yes! this is super great since it use slack's api instead of irc gateway
[17:18] <dev0drps> Hi
[17:18] <_KryDos_> and it doesn't require to enable irc gateway in slack, so no need to ask clients/teamowners to enable it
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> oh, cool, I'll have to look into that. Thanks for the headsup
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> dev0drps, hello
[17:18] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: You can probably boot off the usb stick you installed ubuntu from, then use that to boot your installed ubuntu
[17:18] <_KryDos_> pragmaticenigma: sure. thank you for help with icon.
[17:18] <akk> and maybe from there, re-update grub somehow (I don't know what sort of GUI is available for updating grub, maybe someone else does).
[17:19] <dev0drps> I've got a bit of weird thing going on: I installed bacula and then realized its a little robust for my needs.
[17:19] <Diego_> I haven't installed ubuntu yet, I want to confirm that I won't be overriding the device boot loader
[17:20] <ioria> _KryDos_, using  /usr/share/pixmaps/weechat.xpm  , right ?
[17:20] <pragmaticenigma> Diego_, can you elaborate further?
[17:20] <dev0drps> Ive removed it with sudo apt remove --autoremove
[17:20] <dev0drps> then purged everything
[17:20] <_KryDos_> ioria: nop, I use /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/weechat.png
[17:20] <dev0drps> and then removed the folder in etc
[17:20] <ioria> _KryDos_, try the above
[17:21] <dev0drps> looks like everything is gone but i still have 3 services that are related to bacula
[17:21] <dev0drps> i ran sudo systemctl stop bacula-director
[17:21] <dev0drps> it will not stop
[17:22] <dev0drps> any ideas as to what might be remaining that I haven't looked at
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> dev0drps, normally to remove a package installed with apt, the command is either apt remove bacula or apt purge bacula... with the manual removal you might have to install again, then try those commands
[17:22] <_KryDos_> ioria: I guess i have to exit current terminal with weechat. I'll reconnect and let you know
[17:23] <dev0drps> ill give that a try thanks pragmaticenigma
[17:23] <jmadero> hi all - I recently moved and I just got a chance to set up my 5.1 again, unfortunately my Ubuntu 17.10 system isn't seeing it - when I go into sound settings, I'm only getting "Analog Stereo Output" for the device. It's a USB sound card, I've previously had no problems with 5.1 with is. Suggestions?
[17:24] <Diego_> Yeah, I have a macbook pro machine running mac os, I want to install ubuntu along side mac, so far I have created a bootable USB with ubuntu and I have booted into it now, in the installer wizard I have choosen a partition into which I would like to install ubuntu (I created it ahead of time) There is an option I don't really understand which is "Device for boot loader installation", at the moment the partition selected there is named 
[17:24] <Diego_> I wonder if installing ubuntu will delete that partition which I need for mac
[17:26] <_KryDos_> ioria, lol, it wont start anymore :D
[17:26] <_KryDos_> ioria, I don't think it's related to icon, since with older one it also don't start. I think I've messed up with desktop file
[17:26] <ioria> _KryDos_, you just change the icon ... please paste you .desktop file
[17:27] <ioria> _KryDos_,  on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:27] <_KryDos_> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4BPjWcjSWH/ - here is
[17:28] <_KryDos_> ok, it now works... I don't know what it was. it starts. But it still with terminal icon. Of course when I search for it it shows up as icon described in .desktop file. But after start it gets terminal icon.
[17:31] <ioria> _KryDos_,  it works here ....
[17:31] <_KryDos_> ioria, on your machine it works? oO
[17:32] <ioria> _KryDos_,   i have just changed Exec=xterm -e "/usr/bin/weechat"
[17:32] <_KryDos_> ioria, let me change to gnome-terminal -e (probably has same option), one sec
[17:34] <_KryDos_> ioria, nop, it still has icon of terminal. Just to clarify. You see weechat icon even after application is started, right?
[17:34] <Diego_> can someone help me? what should I choose as the device for boot loader installation? does it matter, does it have any effect on the device I choose such as formatting it?
[17:34] <ioria> _KryDos_,   yup;  try this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mv224d6ddc/
[17:34] <ioria> _KryDos_,   unity desktop  here
[17:35] <_KryDos_> ioria, still the same :(
[17:36] <_KryDos_> ioria, I don't think I'm on unity... as far as I understand it's ghome-shell that looks like Unity
[17:36] <_KryDos_> i'm on 17.10
[17:36] <ioria> _KryDos_,   ah
[17:36] <iMin3Ra1n> akk, okay so i fixed it
[17:36] <iMin3Ra1n> ran a command in windows and it brought me to grub
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> however
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> ubuntu is now taking forever to boot
[17:37] <ioria> _KryDos_,   i got icon both in Launcher and in alt-tab
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> off of an SSD
[17:37] <C41N> ?disconnect
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> maybe its hanging
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> what's going on?
[17:37] <_KryDos_> ioria, I envy you :D
[17:37] <iMin3Ra1n> do i try rebooting?
[17:37] <_KryDos_> _KryDos_, I think I can go to #gnome-shell or something like that and ask there
[17:38] <ioria> _KryDos_,  the .desktop has the executable bit ?
[17:38] <_KryDos_> nop it hasn't
[17:38] <_KryDos_> let me set it
[17:38] <ioria> _KryDos_,  chmod +x  file.desktop
[17:38] <_KryDos_> ioria, yeah, it still the same
[17:38] <iMin3Ra1n> im getting nervoys guys
[17:39] <_KryDos_> ioria, it's something gnome specific for sure. as you said it works for unity
[17:39] <_KryDos_> thanks a lot. I guess I should ask gnome devs about it.
[17:39] <ioria> _KryDos_,  why don't you switch to the Xorg session and test it again
[17:39] <_KryDos_> ioria, I'm in xorg
[17:39] <ioria> _KryDos_,  i'am out then
[17:40] <_KryDos_> ioria, :D ok. thank you anyway
[17:40] <ioria> _KryDos_, no problem
[17:41] <iMin3Ra1n> okay sorry to be a needy/nosy person, but since you guys are done, maybe you could help me
[17:41] <Javabean> !patience
[17:42] <akk> That's a good message but one other thing it should maybe mention, which is being specific.
[17:43] <iMin3Ra1n> hm?
[17:43] <akk> Sometimes questions like "I ran a command in windows and now ubuntu is taking forever to boot" don't get answers because there are no details there anyone could answer.
[17:43] <iMin3Ra1n> i dont know what specifics to provide
[17:43] <iMin3Ra1n> my apologies
[17:43] <iMin3Ra1n> i thought you were here for that
[17:44] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: In general, "ran a command" is obviously lacking any detail, like, what command?
[17:45] <akk> Even if there's someone here who knows anything about windows (which is definitely not me) they wouldn't have any idea what you did.
[17:45] <iMin3Ra1n> bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[17:45] <akk> Somebody here yesterday mentioned some way of getting grub to switch to showing boot messages -- I think it involved hitting ESC?
[17:46] <iMin3Ra1n> i did go to the upstart option in advanced options for ubuntu and it is doing that
[17:46] <iMin3Ra1n> right now stuck on Loading initial ramdisk
[17:50] <iMin3Ra1n> the solution online seems to be this
[17:50] <iMin3Ra1n> https://askubuntu.com/questions/829914/stuck-on-boot-on-loading-initial-ramdisk-or-dropped-to-busybox/838257
[17:50] <iMin3Ra1n> going to try recovery mode in the hopes that nano is accessible so i can tr this
[17:50] <iMin3Ra1n> try*
[17:51] <iMin3Ra1n> initramfs is asking that i fsck /dev/sdd5, maybe its this. trying...
[17:51] <Scunizi> I'm using Kazam for screen casts and have an issue getting the mouse pointer to show.  Any solutions? Perhaps a different screencast program that will give this feature on Kubuntu?
[17:52] <DiecastMessiah> hails all, was just playing a game and the computer just shutdown... but i seen the ubuntu shutdown screen before it did... just wondering if there is a log file i can check to see why it shutdown on its own... was thinking it maybe overheat.. but hard to say .. on ubuntu 16.04
[17:52] <iMin3Ra1n> wow
[17:52] <iMin3Ra1n> am just holding y
[17:52] <iMin3Ra1n> so much stuff
[17:53] <iMin3Ra1n> i hope this does not break windows
[17:53] <akk> Scunizi: A long time ago I used recordmydesktop and it showed the mouse pointer, but I haven't tried recently.
[17:53] <iMin3Ra1n> how long is this gonna take
[17:53] <DiecastMessiah> Scunizi: maybe simplescreenrecorder
[17:53] <Scunizi> akk: thanks.. I'd forgotten about that package..
[17:54] <Scunizi> DiecastMessiah: thanks.
[17:54] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: fsck can take a long time if it's a big disk partition. It won't affect anything except the partition you're fsck'ing, which I assume isn't the windows one.
[17:55] <iMin3Ra1n> i made a ghetto solution to hold down y by using some coins and an old phone
[17:56] <iMin3Ra1n> its not a big disk solution, just 10GB
[17:56] <iMin3Ra1n> but holy crap
[17:56] <iMin3Ra1n> alot of stuff needs fixing
[17:56] <iMin3Ra1n> like its just spammed the screen with Fixing stuffs
[17:56] <iMin3Ra1n> if i didnt know any better, it looks like its fixing EVERYTHING
[17:57] <iMin3Ra1n> it is only fixing /dev/sdd5, which i know sdd is the SSD
[17:57] <iMin3Ra1n> i hope /dev/sdd5 is not windows
[17:57] <iMin3Ra1n> i can check this actually, took a screenshot of the partitions awhile ago
[17:58] <iMin3Ra1n> STILL going
[17:58] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: There's something wrong if it's fixing that much on a partition it just made. What partition is this? mount | grep sdd5 will tell you.
[17:58] <iMin3Ra1n> i cant do that, im in the middle of fsck
[17:59] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: So bring up another terminal window. Linux is a multitasking OS.
[17:59] <iMin3Ra1n> you dont understand, i didnt even boot
[17:59] <iMin3Ra1n> im in recovery mode
[17:59] <akk> oh
[17:59] <iMin3Ra1n> and it would appear as if sdd5 is not windows
[17:59] <iMin3Ra1n> after checking my screenshot
[17:59] <akk> well, that's good, anyway. So worst case, you can reinstall ubuntu.
[17:59] <iMin3Ra1n> f**k me man, theres so.. so... so much
[18:00] <iMin3Ra1n> like im just holding the y key down and its still going
[18:00] <iMin3Ra1n> seeing a bunch of stuff about ompdes
[18:00] <iMin3Ra1n> inodes*
[18:01] <iMin3Ra1n> i just want it to be over :(
[18:02] <tomreyn> re-reun with -p
[18:02] <iMin3Ra1n> wdym
[18:02] <iMin3Ra1n> its still going
[18:02] <akk> I thought fsck had a -y option to force yes answers to everything, but the man page doesn't mention it.
[18:02] <iMin3Ra1n> well no matter, like i said, i have y held down by some coins and an old phone
[18:02] <iMin3Ra1n> so im not putting any effort into it
[18:02] <tomreyn> there is -y to e2fsck
[18:03] <iMin3Ra1n> im gonna stop it real quick to sample and copy one of the commands
[18:03] <iMin3Ra1n> (take the phone off of Y)
[18:03] <iMin3Ra1n> yeah, just said unnattached inode (numbers), connect to /lost+found?
[18:03] <iMin3Ra1n> putting the phone back on
[18:05] <iMin3Ra1n> this is making me hella nervous and impatient
[18:05] <iMin3Ra1n> okay! its done
[18:06] <tomreyn> DiecastMessiah: there is /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/syslog
[18:07] <iMin3Ra1n> seems to be booting normally so far... failed to start login service, restory, apport service, and raise network interfaces so far
[18:07] <iMin3Ra1n> that is concerning
[18:08] <iMin3Ra1n> its running a "start job"
[18:08] <Comrade343> hello
[18:08] <iMin3Ra1n> failed to start modem manager
[18:08] <iMin3Ra1n> gonna go crap while this is doing its thing
[18:08] <tomreyn> DiecastMessiah:auth.log shoul dhave information on what triggered the reboot. in the scenario you're discussing i can only think of: (a) your battery running low, making the system shut down to prevent file system inconsistencies, (b) someone else logged in shutting it down / rebooting it, (c) you have chosen to automatically reboot after installing updates which require a reboot to be applied.
[18:10] <DiecastMessiah> tomreyn: k was just look at syslog will check auth.log now .. just wondering because it because the fan was running at high speed for a good while.. much longer than normal
[18:11] <iMin3Ra1n> all of these things are failing to start
[18:11] <iMin3Ra1n> it failed to start avahi mdns thing stack thingy
[18:12] <iMin3Ra1n> and also network manager
[18:12] <iMin3Ra1n> now its just got a blinking underscore, what do i do?
[18:12] <iMin3Ra1n> akk
[18:13] <iMin3Ra1n> forcing a shutdown now
[18:14] <akk> iMin3Ra1n: I have no idea what's wrong. But if you had that many fsck errors, your disk got corrupted somehow in a major way
[18:14] <tomreyn> DiecastMessiah: the shutdown screen suggests that it (tried to?) shutdown gracefully. so just overheating seems unlikely to me, since that would have caused an immediate power off.
[18:14] <akk> and for all I know is now missing a lot of files.
[18:14] <akk> I'd reinstall, personally.
[18:14] <iMin3Ra1n> okay, that's what ill do
[18:14] <iMin3Ra1n> first im gonna make sure windows is okay
[18:15] <DiecastMessiah> yeah i though so too odd .. normally it just powers off
[18:15] <akk> Actually, personally what I'd do is buy a backup drive and make a backup first
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, if you can get back into windows. my recommendation, don't proceed any further. Use that machine for gaming only and find away to restore the original size for windows. Use a spare machine or install Ubuntu into a VM so you can practice before you try again
[18:15] <akk> since you're obviously very concerned about this windows install
[18:15] <DiecastMessiah> but also my compujter doesn;t overheat
[18:15] <akk> and you should have a backup anyway, disks do fail.
[18:16] <iMin3Ra1n> pragmaticenigma, yeah, seems like a really good idea. windows wants to disk check now, so im gonna let it do that
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, akk is right... until you can back up your computer data, don't keep trying... the risk of losing everything gets greater and greater
[18:16] <iMin3Ra1n> well it didnt check but okay
[18:16] <iMin3Ra1n> it booted
[18:16] <iMin3Ra1n> is it safe to just remove the linux partition and undo the command i mentioned earlier?
[18:17] <akk> If you're going to install linux eventually, I'd leave those there.
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> if you have partitioning tools that you are very familiar with, you can remove the linux partitions and restore the drive space to windows. But I recommend you get a back up of your windows box first before you do anything more with those partitions
[18:17] <akk> Well, maybe undo the command for booting.
[18:17] <iMin3Ra1n> just an fyi, the whole reason i did this was to have a data efficient os to run rather than windows eating all my mobile data up
[18:18] <iMin3Ra1n> i tether my phone to my pc
[18:19] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, Ubuntu in it's default state will use about the same amount of data per monthly cycle for updates and other system maintenance
[18:19] <DiecastMessiah> tomreyn: I am not seeing anything.. or i just don't understand what the log is telling me.. but i don't see errors or warnings to way it shutdown
[18:20] <iMin3Ra1n> i do have a functioning ubuntu vm. is there any way to just port my wifi connection through to it and not let windows use it?
[18:20] <DiecastMessiah> tomreyn: but thanks for the info. I'll just not play games on linux
[18:20] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, no
[18:20] <iMin3Ra1n> shucks :\
[18:20] <tomreyn> DiecastMessiah: what's your graphics hardware?
[18:21] <DiecastMessiah> tomreyn: nvidia 310m .. optimus .. i have the drivers and prime installed
[18:22] <tomreyn> DiecastMessiah: okay, then i don't know without further details.
[18:22] <iMin3Ra1n> gonna disconnect my hotspot now
[18:23] <iMin3Ra1n> thank you for all the help guys, i really appreciate it
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> iMin3Ra1n, Windows has more tools available for dialing back data usage. It's a topic for another channel, but I would recommend looking into that
[18:23] <DiecastMessiah> tomreyn: no problem, been having to face it that i have i useless system.
[18:23] <DiecastMessiah> have a **
[18:24] <DiecastMessiah> for gaming that is
[18:24] <DiecastMessiah> will just have to use windows for that ..
[18:25] <parteo> hello, I need some help with ecryptfs..can you help please?
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> parteo, please describe your issue in as much detail as you can, sending everything as one line. If you have logs, please post them to paste.ubuntu.com.
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> parteo, if someone is able, they will reach out to try and help
[18:30] <parteo> accidentally my home folder had a fdisk-delete and gparted-format operations on it. when gparted warned that the changes would be valid in the next reboot, I noticed the mistake and didn't reboot the machine since. some mounted partitions on disk were still there, maybe because at the point I realized it they were not fdisk-ed yet. but one encrypted home folder seems to be deleted, because...
[18:30] <parteo> ...after a while of wrestling, I think I managed to mount the private dir, and saw that the folders were marked as 'no such file or directory'..then I ran testdisk and it gave a list of white as well as red-coloured (deleted) and encrypted private folders, which I recovered. how can I run ecryptfs on these encrypted recovered folders? I know how to run it on regular private folder, but this...
[18:30] <parteo> ...is saved on a separate drive like /media/ubuntu/mydrive/.
[18:30] <parteo> sorry for the long narrative!
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> parteo, thank you for the detailed information! I'm not familiar with encryptfs, but I am wondering, would copying the files back to their original homes within the ecrypted fs re-encrypt them?
[18:34] <parteo> pragmaticenigma, I thought about that question, too. because the recovery isn't concluded yet, I havent been able to try. otherwise I am thinking whether 'ecryptfs-recover-private' could detect this private directory, too
[18:35] <parteo> and decrypt it, of course
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> parteo, It would appear that it's intention is to only recover files to a non-encrypted folder. so you should be able to move those files as you would another file, back into the encrypted folders when you're done
[18:38] <parteo> this is how the folders look at the location where ecryptfs mounted the private dir; https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WqgtnTCv3F/
[18:39] <parteo> question marks instead of, say ,'drwxr-xr-x  1 root root   260 Mar 25 13:34'
[18:40] <EriC^> i've seen that when say root tries to access the mounted private dir instead of the user
[18:40] <parteo> ah, indeed, I tried it as root
[18:41] <parteo> this is also from the same output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SsG2FsFPnd/
[18:44] <parteo> EriC^, but without being root I am not able to cd into the mount directory
[18:49] <EriC^> parteo: hmm, try using the recover-private.. command without root if possible
[18:51] <parteo> EriC^, sure, I can try it once more. I tried it several times with errors each time, but finally I think I got it right.
[18:51] <EriC^> parteo: it's pretty amazing you were able to recover files with testdisk btw, there's also photorec that can get every file it can find regardless of the filesystem state, if you give it a header it can get them
[18:52] <parteo> EriC^, from my experience photorec just piles all of them in one lot, which gets pretty messy afterwards to sort out :) but testdisk is really graceful. if the disk is untouched yet, it brings the folders back just as one has left them
[18:53] <EriC^> yeah, i've never had good luck with testdisk except on fat32 for me
[18:55] <parteo> It worked well with ext4, too
[18:56] <EriC^> that's awesome
[18:57] <parteo> currently, recovering a whole private folder, it has a fail rate of 0,6% :)
[18:58] <parteo> in my searches, I found out that ecryptfs does not necessarily begin with 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private' but maybe better with 'sudo ecryptfs-add-passphrase --fnek'
[18:59] <EriC^> i believe the fnek stuff is related to the file naming
[18:59] <EriC^> without it you won't decrypt the filenames and structures i think
[19:00] <LordOfPy> quick unrelated question. sometimes i see people using sudo and others not. Is there a reason for that?
[19:01] <EriC^> LordOfPy: sudo is used to run commands as root or other users, so if a command needs privileges you need to use sudo
[19:01] <parteo> I first tried with the usual command, and I got an assortment of errors each time. then some posts hinted at the fnek command ,followed by this; ' sudo mount -t ecryptfs /media/ubuntu/drivename/home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private/ /mnt'
[19:01] <LordOfPy> Thanks thats kinda what I figured but have been using it all the time just incase.
[19:02] <parteo> and then entering password, some ring key, and then final line; 'mounted eCryptfs'
[19:02] <EriC^> parteo: well it seems like it has the filenames down
[19:03] <EriC^> so the fnek stuff must be good
[19:03] <parteo> but still no good, apparently, as seen above, the dirs are not there :)
[19:04] <EriC^> i'm still kinda in disbelief on the ext4 recovery, i've tried it sometimes and i'd never get files back, just 0 sized named files, so that's pretty sweet to hear
[19:04] <parteo> I am wondering if I can re-run these commands after placing the testdisk output in the private directory, and whether it would show the real folders then
[19:05] <EriC^> parteo: yeah, it might be missing some files that it uses
[19:05] <parteo> EriC^, unless the disk is in a hopeless state for some other reason, I guess ext4 doesnt hinder testdisk from performing
[19:06] <parteo> yeah, that may happen
[19:06] <parteo> I'd be satisfied if I could just get back those I cared about
[19:07] <parteo> those folders*
[19:09] <_KryDos_> ioria: it was the best adventure ever :D (I'm about weechat icon in .desktop file)
[19:09] <ioria> _KryDos_,  gnome-shell issue or what ?
[19:10] <_KryDos_> in some sense yeah
[19:10] <_KryDos_> nobody from gnome have answered though :(
[19:10] <_KryDos_> gnome-shell overrides every icon of application it thinks is terminal with theme's icon
[19:11] <ioria> _KryDos_,  really ? and ....
[19:11] <_KryDos_> as far as I got, it use WM_CLASS property of a window and looks for "terminal" or something (it's may be not truth, but seems it is)
[19:11] <_KryDos_> so it use the same icon for uxvrt, xfce4-terminal, xterm
[19:12] <_KryDos_> I found that gnome-terminal has --class option
[19:12] <_KryDos_> which is actually overrides WM_CLASS property
[19:12] <_KryDos_> I've just set it to "weechat" and everything start working
[19:12] <ioria> _KryDos_,  yeah, was reading something about it ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/403766/duplicate-icons-for-manually-created-gnome-launcher-items
[19:13] <ioria> _KryDos_,  good job
[19:13] <_KryDos_> yeah, thanks :)
[19:14] <dman777> my new install on my laptop takes 5 minutes to boot up because it waits for the eth0/eno0 device to get a connection. on the command line, where do I disable that? not sure what the service is exactly in systemctl
[19:14] <ikonia> it's dhcp
[19:18] <dman777> ikonia: i see /etc/network/interfaces... how could I change it to check if en01 exists then do dhcp, but if not disregard dhcp?
[19:19] <ikonia> that's a file
[19:19] <ikonia> dman777: is this a desktop or a server install ?
[19:20] <leftyfb> dman777: maybe try 'allow-hotplug' as opposed to 'auto' for your network interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:20] <dman777> ikonia: it's a minimal install on my laptop
[19:20] <ikonia> what does that mean
[19:20] <dman777> no desktop enviroment
[19:21] <ikonia> how is your IP configuration managed then ?
[19:21] <dman777> dhcp...but when I get the wifi working en01 will be rarely used
[19:22] <leftyfb> dman777: try 'allow-hotplug' as opposed to 'auto' for your network interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:22] <ikonia> so are you in a position to disable the interfaces yet, or do you still need them /
[19:23] <EriC^> parteo: when using the mount command did you give it the 2nd stuff in the [  ] from earlier?
[19:23] <EriC^> for the fnek stuff
[19:26] <parteo> EriC^, you mean the sig? yes
[19:34] <wolfgang_> xnxx
[19:34] <dman777> leftyfb: that worked...thanks
[19:43] <dman777> for xenial minimal, I have to manually do alt f3 to go to a tty to log in. How would I set bringing up the tty to automatic on boot up?
[19:44] <ioria> dman777, you mean mini.iso installed ?
[19:44] <dman777> yes
[19:44] <ioria> dman777,  can you paste  /etc/default/grub  ?
[19:46] <dman777> ioria: not yet...still working on wifi.. but I uncommented GRUB_TERMINAL=console and ran update-grub if that helps
[19:46] <ioria> dman777,  nope
[19:46] <dman777> GRUB_CMD_LINUX=""
[19:46] <ioria> dman777,  change (if you have it) "quiet spash" with "text" ad run sudo update.-grub
[19:47] <ioria> dman777,  sudo update-grub
[19:50] <MuliCNST> hello ladies & gents
[19:50] <MuliCNST> I've seem to have run into a problem with one of my vm hosts running 16.04.4LTS
[19:50] <dman777> ioria: naw...didn't help. also trying to get a normal boot up messages also and it didn't do that.
[19:51] <MuliCNST> I've moved the VM from a dell poweredge T20 (E3-1275v3 processor) to a poweredge R510 (2xE5675 processors_
[19:51] <ioria> dman777,  did you change this line ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:51] <dman777> ioria: yes
[19:52] <ioria> dman777,  with "text" ?
[19:52] <MuliCNST> after doing so, it seems that i've introduced the good ol soft lockup bog
[19:52] <dman777> ioria: yep
[19:52] <Younder> dman777, and rebooted ;)
[19:52] <MuliCNST> bug rather
[19:53] <MuliCNST> i've downloaded and applied the latest microcode file, rebooted
[19:53] <MuliCNST> but still no results
[19:53] <Younder> MuliCNST, What vm?
[19:54] <MuliCNST> running esxi 6.0 u3
[19:54] <MuliCNST> as my hypervisor
[19:54] <MuliCNST> and ubuntu 64bit 16.04.4LTS as the guest
[19:54] <Younder> MuliCNST, Ok so Oracle VirtualBox
[19:54] <MuliCNST> no
[19:55] <MuliCNST> vmware esxi 6.0 u3
[19:55] <Younder> MuliCNST, Just console client or Windows client as well?
[19:55] <MuliCNST> console
[19:56] <MuliCNST> remoted in via ssh
[19:56] <Younder> MuliCNST, Vagrant?
[19:56] <dman777> rebooting takes like two minutes and I can't see what is going on because I have graphics screen instead of messages
[19:56] <MuliCNST> Younder, wtf are you even trying to get at?
[19:57] <MuliCNST> i've already told you esxi 6.0 u3
[20:01] <dman777> does iwlwifi have a simple gtk gui util for logging on a wifi network?
[20:06] <rommel> dman777, that appears to be a hardware driver so you would use something like network manager to configure your settings
[20:09] <dman777> rommel: can network manager run in just X without a desktop manager?
[20:10] <rommel> dman777, not sure do apt-get install and see what it pulls in
[20:12] <rommel> if you are running X on ubuntu i would think it will work without having to install all of the gnome desktop but honestly i am not sure
[20:14] <tomreyn> $ lsb_release -ds; apt-cache depends network-manager | grep -c Depends:
[20:14] <tomreyn> Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[20:14] <tomreyn> 26
[20:14] <tomreyn> i guess it depends on a couple things...
[20:14] <pragmaticenigma> dman777, A desktop environment is not required to run an X application. Though they do help with adding easy to find window control and menus that may not be available in X standalone
[20:15] <tomreyn> only network-manager-gnome will depend on the gtk libs, though, and the non GUI network-manager only suggests ...-gnome
[20:15] <pragmaticenigma> dman777, You can look into lighter weight DE's like i3wm, e17, lxde... which don't have the heavy system resource needs of gnome, kde and similar
[20:15] <rommel> tomreyn, well i think he asked for a gtk frontend
[20:16] <rommel> for wifi configuration
[20:16] <tomreyn> right
[20:16] <tomreyn> i don't know whether one exists. but there is nmtui
[20:17] <tomreyn> also wicd-gtk
[20:19] <rommel> i used wicd often before everything seemed to migrate in gnome to network-manager then i just used it since it was easy. dman777 what are you looking to avoid.. are there space or other constraints
[20:19] <pragmaticenigma> MuliCNST, has anyone in the esxi forums indicated having similar problem with suggestions on how to fix it?
[20:29] <Bruno> led can
[20:29] <brianXP> hi, guys
[20:30] <elichai2> is there a ppa for 18.04 kernels in 17.10?
[20:31] <Bashing-om> !mainline | elichai2
[20:31] <elichai2> my laptop's touchpad doesn't work without 4.15
[20:31] <elichai2> I don't want to manually upgrade every week or so
[20:32] <Muligan> pragmaticenigma, not that I've seen
[20:32] <Muligan> however
[20:32] <Muligan> the one thing I've yet to try is to re-install vmwaretools
[20:33] <elichai2> is this safe? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> elichai2, it is not without it's risks... you have to decide if your touchpad is worth possibly making your system unstable
[20:35] <elichai2> 4.15 shouldn't be unstable
[20:36] <elichai2> is there a non mainline kernel ppa? I guess 18.04 isn't using straight up mainline
[20:36] <pragmaticenigma> Muligan, might be worth a shot... there isn't some processor architecture difference causing a kernel panic
[20:37] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[20:38] <pragmaticenigma> elichai2, 18.04 isn't officially released yet, so the kernel itself may have bugs yet. I would recommend reading up on the mainline kernels fully before taking the next step. if you don't understand, ask lots of questions until you feel you have everything you need
[20:38] <elichai2> I know how mainline works I just don't want to update manually and I do prefer a little testing before installing
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> There is HWE kernels, but those are only for LTS releases
[20:40] <elichai2> you think linux-hwe-generic might work?
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> Did you read my whole statement elichai2 ?
[20:41] <elichai2> yeah that it's for lts only, if it will work maybe i'll install 16.04 instead
[20:41] <elichai2> I installed 17.10 hoping for an updated enough kernel
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> that has the instructions and information on it
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> otherwise 18.04 is just weeks away
[20:57] <MagePsycho> Do we have similar for ubunut? https://centminmod.com/install.html
[21:00] <tomreyn> MagePsycho: i don't know what "centmin mod" is, but all of nginx, mysql and php are availabl eon ubuntu.
[21:01] <MagePsycho> I know but I need to automate.. doesn’t make sense to do manually on 100’s of ubuntu server
[21:01] <MagePsycho> there should be some provisioner like Ansible
[21:02] <tomreyn> MagePsycho: there is ansible
[21:02] <tomreyn> you just need to install / configure it.
[21:03] <MagePsycho> do you guys know any such ready mande playbook for ansible
[21:03] <tomreyn> no, but with a little web searching most likely you will be able to find some existing playbooks to do that for you.
[21:03] <tomreyn> there are also puppet, salt, chef and a couple other deployment stacks available.
[21:05] <tomreyn> the problem with these ready-made one-time installers is that you get installations and configurations you do not understand and which can easily break so you may end up never patching them.
[21:06] <tomreyn> ("patching" as in installing security patches/updates)
[21:07] <pragmaticenigma> I find it interesting how that's to install a server stack, and the first thing it wants the user to do is disable system protections
[21:08] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn, such as my comment on centmin? a server stack installer that want SELinux disabled?
[21:09] <Delta706> Is there a web server which will forward requests to a forward proxy?
[21:09] <tomreyn> well, disabling selinux is something a *lot* of install / configuration guides demand on rpm platforms.
[21:10] <tomreyn> Delta706: any web server which you place behind a forward proxy, i guess.
[21:11] <pragmaticenigma> Delta706, there are many that will do that. However, configuration if those is criticle so they don't get misused and don't invite unwanted guests into your system/network
[21:11] <Delta706> pragmaticenigma: I looked at nginx but it does not support it
[21:12] <bugzbunny> Delta706: What do you mean?
[21:13] <Delta706> bugzbunny: nginx can act as a proxy to web servers but not as a proxy to forward proxies
[21:13] <tomreyn> Delta706: indeed, please describe your intended architecture / use case.
[21:15] <bugzbunny> "not as a proxy to forward proxies"?
[21:15] <Delta706> I use a browser to connect to a proxy. This proxy receives the request and modifies it, sending it to a forward proxy.
[21:15] <bugzbunny> You probably looking for Squid
[21:16] <Delta706> perhaps squid would do it. I do not know
[21:17] <bugzbunny> Squid is a Cache Proxy intended for this purpose
[21:17] <bugzbunny> There are others less complicated such as TinyProxy, etc
[21:18] <bugzbunny> I use both in my environment.
[21:18] <bugzbunny> FYI, TinyProxy is not a Cache Proxy server
[21:19] <Delta706> I have found a web page saying that TinyProxy can be configured as a transparent proxy
[21:20] <Delta706> which seems to be what I want
[21:24] <parteo> I am sending the output of a command to a file, but the file has been empty for a while, whereas the command has been running all the time
[21:25] <parteo> just wondering if the output will be filled in the file once it is completed?
[21:26] <cody_>  | || || |-
[21:27] <parteo> oh no, it began coming. just more than a bit delayed
[21:30] <iresf> how to use https proxy in google chrome on ubuntu 16.04 ? i used google-chrome  --proxy-server = " ip:port"  but didnt work
[21:34] <gbellinoz1> When I try to remove the bluez package on my system (desktop, no bluetooth, log noise), aptitude wants to remove the ubuntu-desktop package, but this is not recommended.  What are my options?
[21:38] <leftyfb> gbellinoz1: what sort of log noise?
[21:38] <gbellinoz1> leftyfb: complaining about there not being bluetooth hardware :)
[21:38] <leftyfb> gbellinoz1: can you pastebin it?
[21:39] <gbellinoz1> could do, but my question is sort of a principled one - why must I have bluetooth services and packages when I don't have bluetooth hardware?  And what will happen if I remove ubuntu-desktop?
[21:40] <leftyfb> gbellinoz1: not much, though it might make upgrading to the next release difficult unless you reinstall it. It's only a meta package
[21:40] <naturally> does anyone know of video camera software for linux, that can show your outline live?  like streamers do in this video: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/242090969
[21:41] <gbellinoz1> leftyfb: so the next do-release-upgrade wouldn't work right... would it complain about the missing meta package, or would I have to remember that?
[21:42] <leftyfb> gbellinoz1: I'm not sure. I've only heard it in passing here.
[21:42] <tomreyn> iresf: try --proxy-server=https://secure-proxy.example.com:443
[21:43] <bugzbunny> Does ubuntu-desktop pull BlueTooth?
[21:43] <gbellinoz1> It's interesting because my setup is pretty customized - not very 'desktop'.  So it's interesting that do-release-upgrade wants to only deal with 'desktops'.  Not sure if I'm getting the concepts right there.
[21:43] <gbellinoz1> By the way, the log message is just this:  dbus[6932]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out
[21:43] <gbellinoz1> Not really a biggy but I like to be a minimalist with Linux when I can.
[21:43] <gbellinoz1> bugzbunny: the meta package?  yeah, it depends on bluez.
[21:44] <bugzbunny> k
[21:45] <gbellinoz1> I think it's a little indirect  bluez<---gnome-bluetooth<---unity-control-center<---ubuntu-desktop
[21:45] <tomreyn> gbellinoz1: do-release-update is also used to update servers, so no, not desktop specific.
[21:45] <gbellinoz1> tomreyn: that's good news, but it brings up the question on what happens if I remove a metapackage dependency.
[21:46] <kes0> Hola
[21:46] <kes0> Can someone highlight me?
[21:46] <tomreyn> gbellinoz1: probably nothing. i don't know whether do-release update treats systems differently based on whether or not certain meta packages are installed.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> !test | kes0
[21:47] <kes0> Thanks =)
[21:50] <gbellinoz1> I might try it and see what kind of cascading deleting package pain I cause myself.  It's either that or "be on task".  Thanks for the dialog team.
[21:50] <leftyfb> gbellinoz1: kind of old, but might still be relevant: https://askubuntu.com/a/85206
[21:51] <gbellinoz1> The situation may have changed in the six years hence!
[21:54] <gbellinoz1> It comes down to me not understanding what apt dist-upgrade does vs. do-release-upgrade (vs. a 'software center' upgrade, etc.)
[21:55] <gbellinoz1> Also, a long history of doing weird things that put me in the 0.0001% of users, and therefore I get problems when I do 'normal' stuff like an upgrade.
[21:58] <Simarillion> can someone tell me what unetbootin is and how it works?
[21:59] <Simarillion> in laymen's terms if possible.
[22:01] <Simarillion> pragmaticenigma, i read the logs of my cousin's session in here this morning, after he borrowed my other machine. I apologize for his impudence (nick: messaschmite)
[22:02] <Simarillion> *messashmit*
[22:04] <pragmaticenigma> Feel free to PM me Simarillion
[22:04] <Simarillion> will do.
[22:12] <kolgf> hi
[22:12] <BionicMac> hello
[22:15] <tigefa> BionicMac: "Mac" is?
[22:20] <BionicMac> tigefa, I'm not sure what you are asking.
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> Hello kolgf , BionicMac
[22:24] <supernov1h> how do I execute a line of xargs if it refers to a program? eg, $:~/ xargs -I $ echo $, which gives "/usr/bin/ar"
[22:24] <supernovah> I want to do /usr/bin/ar --version
[22:25] <tomreyn> supernovah: like so? echo "/usr/bin/ar" "--version" | xargs
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> supernovah, there is a way to encapsulate the output of a command, I wish I remember what it was at the moment... I think it's usually paranthesis
[22:26] <tomreyn> echo "/usr/bin/ar" "--version" | xargs -I '{}' echo foo '{}' bar
[22:27] <supernovah> yeah but I don't want to echo it, I want to execute it
[22:27] <tomreyn> remove echo
[22:27] <supernovah> the string coming in refers to the absolute path of a program I want to execute with an argument
[22:27] <tomreyn> oh you have two arguments passed into xargs but you want them executed as one
[22:28] <supernovah> so xargs -I '{}' '{}' --version gives me, xargs: {}: No such file or directory
[22:28] <tomreyn> that wont work, you'll need to join the fields
[22:30] <tomreyn> supernovah: did you actually pipe something into xargs there?
[22:31] <tomreyn> maybe with more context it can be solved
[22:31] <geirha> any reason why you don't just use a shell loop instead?
[22:32] <geirha> while read -r cmd; do "$cmd" --version; done
[22:43] <supernovah> tomreyn: yes I said that before, it comes through grep and numerous other pipes
[22:44] <tomreyn> supernovah: so an example input would look like what?
[22:49] <supernovah> multiple lines of absolute paths to x86_64 binaries
[22:49] <supernovah> which are known to take --version as an argument
[22:49] <supernovah> ending in an \x00
[22:50] <supernovah> eg <path_1>\r\n<path_2>\r\n<path_3>\r\n\x00
[22:51] <supernovah> the example `... | xargs -I $ echo $, gives "/usr/bin/ar", "/usr/bin/as" etc
[23:04] <Pinkamena_D> Hey all, I have been trying to install GCC4.7 for a long time. I need it because I am trying to compile a physics library physBAM and only the old version works right now. Should I compile or find a package? I have tried both approaches for a while and had many issues so far with each.
[23:11] <pragmaticenigma> !info gcc xenial
[23:12] <pragmaticenigma> !info gcc artful
[23:13] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, It appears that GCC4.7 is available in Ubuntu 17.10, you could try building it with that?
[23:13] <zaibitsu> Hey,  I'm day dreaming of buying a used 10inch 2gb ram with an atom processor(the only ones I can afford) and install an ubuntu minal install.
[23:14] <pragmaticenigma> zaibitsu, is there a question?
[23:14] <export> zaibitsu: there are other distros tailored for low power machines out there.
[23:16] <zaibitsu> (pragmaticenigma) sorry I am on the phone. The questuon is can these type of netbooks take it?
[23:16] <zaibitsu> (export) zaibitsu: there are other distros tailored for low power machines out there.
[23:16] <pragmaticenigma> zaibitsu, A minimal install typically means no GUI. which might not be of much use to you
[23:17] <export> zaibitsu: the point is just to save time, if you put a minimal distro on it will be minimal, you could install debian minimal and then add a Desktop environment, the minimal part had no part in it though the DE you choose makes more difference.
[23:17] <pragmaticenigma> zaibitsu, there are a lot of distros out there, and some are more lightweight than others. Lubuntu is a spin of Ubuntu that is designed to be lighter weight
[23:18] <export> so basically i'm saying, if you install minimal ubuntu and install lxde or xfce, you might as well just use a spin of ubuntu that is already preconfigured and ready to go.
[23:18] <pragmaticenigma> if you're seeking to stay within the Ubuntu ecosystem
[23:18] <zaibitsu> A minimal ubuntu install should not be lighter then lubuntu?
[23:18] <pragmaticenigma> zaibitsu, what we're saying is minimal ubuntu give you a command prompt and that's it.
[23:18] <Pinkamena_D> ‎pragmaticenigma‎: which repository / PPA can I add which allows me to install gcc-4.7?
[23:19] <export> zaibitsu: a minimal ubuntu is just the command line/virtual terminal, no gui no graphical anything.
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, I was thinking more on running Ubuntu 17.10 in a VM, to compile what you need. I don't know if a way to upgrade gcc using PPAs, especially without risk to your current machine setup
[23:19] <export> you would have to install the Xserver as well as decide on a DE which would be vanilla iirc, so yeah just go for lubuntu or something similar.
[23:20] <export> zaibitsu: ^
[23:20] <Pinkamena_D> I have ubuntu 17.10 now
[23:20] <zaibitsu> pragmaticenigma, expert I know, I will install openbox. I used Lubuntu for a  and want to skip the DE part.
[23:20] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, it doesn't have 4.7? I must have missread something
[23:20] <Pinkamena_D> apt-get finds only gcc 4.8 as the lowest version with apt-get search gcc
[23:20] <zaibitsu> *a month
[23:21] <export> zaibitsu: at that level you might consider arch too, it's pretty minimal, debian too honestly (well it can at least)
[23:22] <zaibitsu> export, I've read about them, but those distros might too much for me atm.
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, I was thinking in reverse... my bad
[23:22] <zaibitsu> *might be
[23:23] <akko> AMUSICA EH PESADA AS LETRA SAO BRUTAIS LUTAMOS COM OS INIMIGOS E CUIDAMOS DOS ANIMAIS
[23:23] <Pinkamena_D> Is there any safe / supported way to use packaged for older ubuntu releases in ubuntu 17.10?
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> !es | akko
[23:23] <export> zaibitsu: ubuntu will have a similar draw back to debian comparing the minimal versions, arch is only slightly more involved at install time, just make your decision based on what you like.
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, not typically... when compiling what are you running up against that prevents the compile from finishing?
[23:25] <Pinkamena_D> Here is the software I am usinghttps://github.com/hmazhar/physbam_public
[23:25] <Pinkamena_D> notice in the readme it says 4.8 gives linker errors
[23:25] <Pinkamena_D> there are very many of them (undefined reference) and I don't know how to fix it all
[23:26] <zaibitsu> export, interesting so debian is an option.. I excluded it because of the proprietary driver thing. Figured it was an added complexity I did not need
[23:26] <export> zaibitsu: that's fair, they do try to avoid anything closed source. so whichever fits your use-case.  ubuntu minimal would probably do fine for what you want.
[23:27] <zaibitsu> so I should try this project, yes? Have like mini portable hacking device :D
[23:27] <zaibitsu> *like a
[23:28] <snufft> hi everyone! I'm having trouble with a 16.04 install which has stopped booting. it used to show me the verbose output on startup and would stop once it got to "Starting Light Display manager". I could ctrl + alt + f1 at that point and could purge xorg and lightdm, then reinstall, but after a reastart I'm just booting to a blank screen, no cursor.
[23:29] <snufft> What would be the next thing to try? The install is ona VM with win10 as the host, if that helps. No changes in anything on that side though, that I'm aware of :)
[23:31] <tomreyn> snufft: try holding down left shift, this should provide grub menu, where ouy can choose recovery
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, it looks like officially the project doesn't have a make file. Have you check out the project's website for compile instructions to see if it works? http://physbam.stanford.edu/links/download.html
[23:35] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: it uses cmake
[23:35] <snufft> tomreyn: is this while it's booting?
[23:35] <tomreyn> snufft: yes
[23:36] <Pinkamena_D> I am able to use the cmakelists file, without the projects
[23:36] <Pinkamena_D> but I need the projects too, or at least two of them
[23:37] <tomreyn> snufft: more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[23:37] <Pinkamena_D> When compiling gcc4.7 I get `md-unwind-support.h:145:18: error: field ‘uc’ has incomplete type
[23:38] <Pinkamena_D> I guess some new standards were introduced by never gcc versions so that older gcc has a hard time compiling?
[23:38] <Pinkamena_D> Should I try to make code changes to gcc to fix these issues?
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> Pinkamena_D, rare for something like that. It's usually more subtle. You're also trying to compile a massive project and could simply be missing pre-requisites for the compile to work
[23:39] <tomreyn> Pinkamena_D: i'd say talk to the developers if their software does not build for you. alternatively try getting help with fixing the code in a channel dedicated to this programming language.
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn, the original question was if there was a way to downgrade gcc to 4.7 in ubuntu
[23:42] <huetteldorf> i want to install ubuntu 17.10 from an usbstick. ive tried several sticks, and several apps to copy the iso on the stick. everytime when i hit "try ubuntu now" option from the menu the system freezes. i redownloaded the iso several times, i tried other flavours, i tried stuff like nomodeset, etc. i installed archlinux just fine on the same system. but i want ubuntu. what else could i try?
[23:45] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: oh, sorry, i missed this
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> no worries tomreyn , I was trying to figure out some alternatives to try. I'm not sure how to down grade, noticed that the project has a lot of instructions for compiling. but you are correct, at this point I think Pinkamena_D might need the assistance of the developers or gcc channel
[23:48] <tomreyn> huetteldorf: start by checking the downloaded iso file against its checksum. then boot off it, and press escape while this image is displayed on the bottom center at boot time, and select the option to check the media for defects.
[23:48] <tomreyn> !md5 | huetteldorf
[23:49] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: you can usually install multiple gcc versions in parallel, but it depend son the ubuntu release which ones those are.
[23:49] <huetteldorf> tomreyn: ive done this already, several times.  i just feel like im missing some kind of magic boot parameter
[23:50] <huetteldorf> or if i could get some kind of verbose output after i hit "start ubuntu"
[23:51] <tomreyn> huetteldorf: so, to make sure i am getting this right: you are booting the desktop installer and it boots up fine and you end up on the desktop with this application showing the prompt as to wether you want to try ubuntu or install it, correct?
[23:52] <navplayer> !ok
[23:53] <tomreyn> huetteldorf: so this, right? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#2
[23:53] <huetteldorf> no, i choose the usb stick to boot in the bios menu. i get the ubuntu boot menu , start live system, check for defects, start from first harddisk, etc... i choose the "start ubuntu" option (im not certain how it is named accurately right now) and then freeze.
[23:54] <tomreyn> hmm not sure then. and i'm afraid i have to leave for now
[23:54] <huetteldorf> thank you anyway
[23:54] <tomreyn> will be back in an hour if you'll still be around
[23:55] <kes0> Tried boot both uefi usb and regular usb?
[23:55] <kes0> I usually get those to options to boot usb
[23:55] <kes0> two*
[23:55] <Simarillion> Time for me to go. See you soon, channel. Bye.
[23:56] <huetteldorf> kes0 its a msi p35 platinum motherboard from like 2007 (with intel e8400) , i dont think theres any uefi stuff tbh
[23:56] <kes0> huetteldorf: Ok maybe not
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> huetteldorf, how long do you wait before you give up waiting?
[23:59] <huetteldorf> pragmaticenigma: you think i could have to wait really long? :) when i could just get some kind of notification that ubuntu is still working on something. ill give longer waittime a try in a bit