[00:14] <AuroraAvenue> Hi anyone up ?
[00:14] <BionicMac> Yep, but I know nothing.
[00:14] <BionicMac> =)
[00:15] <AuroraAvenue> deny everything - good policy mate. proven track record w/ that :)
[00:15] <BionicMac> indeed
[00:16] <AuroraAvenue> BionicMac, so wat 'mac' are you progressing on ?
[00:16] <BionicMac> I await official beaver release. I have sound issues. :( 
[00:16] <AuroraAvenue> so, no macintosh ?
[00:17] <BionicMac> iMac 5k 27" - Intel® Core™ i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz × 8 - AMD® Radeon r9 m395x - 24 G ram
[00:17] <BionicMac> 1TB ssd
[00:17]  * AuroraAvenue is a bit jelly :(
[00:17] <BionicMac> no macintosh, i neeeded the amb graphics support in kernel 4.15 so bionic works out of the box.
[00:17] <AuroraAvenue> BionicMac, is Photoshop as good as they say ?
[00:17] <BionicMac> Never used ps.
[00:17] <AuroraAvenue> k
[00:18] <AuroraAvenue> I'm gonna get a mac one of these days.
[00:18] <BionicMac> s/amb/amd/
[00:18] <AuroraAvenue> 15 years of Ubuntu takes it toll.
[00:18] <BionicMac> Might as well grab an older (read cheaper) one and run linux on it.
[00:18] <BionicMac> I can't stand osx.
[00:18] <AuroraAvenue> Well, you say that ....
[00:19] <BionicMac> I'm right at home here.
[00:19] <AuroraAvenue> I really want all the apple software for creativity & just 'perouse' Ubuntu using Parallels as a cross-over.
[00:19] <BionicMac> Everything about *mac* is expensive.
[00:20] <AuroraAvenue> Parrallels being like VMWare - but closer to the bone.
[00:20] <BionicMac> Yeah, well I guess they do have some good media apps. 
[00:20]  * AuroraAvenue scratches BionicMac 's back.
[00:20] <BionicMac> ooo yeah
[00:20] <AuroraAvenue> k, cool.
[00:20] <AuroraAvenue> just checkin.
[00:21] <AuroraAvenue> Aliens would react differently.
[00:21] <BionicMac> Apple is so damn proprietary with everything.... Most apps worth a damn cost.
[00:21] <BionicMac> I mean yeah it's ok. better than windows.
[00:22] <AuroraAvenue> So - what do you use after, say downloading a torrent (film etc) - what would you play it on ?
[00:22] <BionicMac> native video player. also 5k media player.
[00:22] <AuroraAvenue> I think most mac ppl are javascript monkeys anyway.
[00:22] <AuroraAvenue> but that's okay.
[00:23]  * AuroraAvenue can't recall what 'the native video player' actually is ?
[00:23] <BionicMac> i can't either, it's "that" integrated. 
[00:23] <AuroraAvenue> I'm on elementaryOS - waiting for Bionic.
[00:23] <BionicMac> cool
[00:23] <AuroraAvenue> I like Dan Rabbit.
[00:24] <AuroraAvenue> he's like a manga bunny with little ears.
[00:24] <AuroraAvenue> you heard of him ?
[00:24] <BionicMac> i think. maybe
[00:24] <AuroraAvenue> cool.
[00:24] <AuroraAvenue> he plays alot of silly games, like Zelda n'stuff.
[00:24] <BionicMac> =)
[00:25] <BionicMac> zelda been around.
[00:25] <AuroraAvenue> So what are your main problems with Bionic/Ubuntu at present ?
[00:25] <BionicMac> sound
[00:25] <BionicMac> intermittent
[00:25] <AuroraAvenue> that's an old chestnut.
[00:26] <AuroraAvenue> important , but well documented.
[00:26] <BionicMac> no errers, restart and reload alsa drivers and pulseaudio daemon works ... sometimes.
[00:26] <AuroraAvenue> in terms of problems.
[00:26] <BionicMac> errors*
[00:26] <AuroraAvenue> Do you know how to restart the daemon ?
[00:26] <AuroraAvenue> or driver - whatev's
[00:27] <BionicMac> I'm not too familiar with pulseaudio , 'pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio -D'
[00:27] <BionicMac> 'alsa force-reload'
[00:27] <AuroraAvenue> right - well try that then :)
[00:27] <BionicMac> yup, no go.
[00:27] <AuroraAvenue> Mmmm.
[00:27] <BionicMac> 50/50
[00:27] <BionicMac> even a reboot didn't help this time.
[00:28] <AuroraAvenue> Oh dear me.
[00:28] <BionicMac> it's a quiet world here
[00:28] <BionicMac> =)
[00:28] <AuroraAvenue> no ipod ?
[00:28] <BionicMac> tv for now
[00:28] <AuroraAvenue> k
[00:28] <AuroraAvenue> whats on ?
[00:28] <BionicMac> Palm Sunday Rome
[00:28] <BionicMac> EWTN
[00:30] <BionicMac> What about you? What are you listening to or watching?
[00:32] <AuroraAvenue> err Bottom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUiOYrCBDvk
[00:38] <BionicMac> AuroraAvenue, Do you prefer Wayland or Xorg?
[00:38] <AuroraAvenue> Mir defo.
[00:38] <AuroraAvenue> but it don't wang at the moment :(
[00:39] <AuroraAvenue> BionicMac, So what do you think about Ubuntu in general ?
[00:39] <BionicMac> IMpresssive. Ease of installation. Hardware support. User Friendly to the maximum. 
[00:40] <AuroraAvenue> right oh. that's good.
[00:40] <AuroraAvenue> Have you tried Solus ?
[00:40] <BionicMac> Coming from slackware ( which is the only linux I have ever used and still love but it isn't user friendly so to speak.)
[00:41] <BionicMac> No I haven't heard of Solus.
[00:41] <AuroraAvenue> poor you.
[00:41] <AuroraAvenue> its the muts nutz as we say. (good).
[00:41] <BionicMac> hmmm reading now....
[00:41] <AuroraAvenue> its a bugger to get on a usb though.
[00:41] <AuroraAvenue> tried loads of times on rufus.
[00:42] <AuroraAvenue> no joy.
[00:42] <AuroraAvenue> ordering this beauty next week.
[00:42] <AuroraAvenue> hangon - switching screens.
[00:42] <BionicMac> ok
[00:43] <AuroraAvenue> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Solus-Project-2017-01-01-0-64-BIT-16GB-USB-Linux-Desktop-OS-BONUS-CD/371567015807
[00:43] <BionicMac> ! nice
[00:43] <ubottu> 'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely. Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.
[00:43] <AuroraAvenue> sorry Mr Ubuntu (who-ever you are) for that link in here.
[00:44] <AuroraAvenue> they do a podcast aswell.
[00:45] <AuroraAvenue> https://latenightlinux.com/
[00:45] <AuroraAvenue> but thats abit more general.
[00:45] <AuroraAvenue> Anyway - it another EU distro, basically.
[00:45] <AuroraAvenue> but I hear the Telegram channel is going well.
[00:45] <BionicMac> Good to know
[00:46] <AuroraAvenue> I shall PM you a secret, wait a sec.
[00:52] <AuroraAvenue> So - what (other than sound) would you Like ubuntu to improve on ?
[00:53] <AuroraAvenue> Bionic dude ?
[00:53] <AuroraAvenue> okay - I call cigar break - I need 5 mins.
[00:54] <BionicMac> Well, it seems redundant to have several ways to handle packages. apt, dpg, ubuntu software ( orange bag icon), software updater... etc etc 
[00:54] <BionicMac> cigar?!
[00:54] <BionicMac> my kind of break. I'll make coffee and have a cigar also. 
[00:54] <BionicMac> s/dpg/dpkg/
[00:57] <AuroraAvenue> cool. you seem like my kind of lighthouse keeper :)
[00:59]  * AuroraAvenue wonders - Where in the world is stallman ?
[00:59] <BionicMac> Richard?
[01:00] <BionicMac> I'm off for bit. 
[01:00] <AuroraAvenue> http://bfy.tw/HJA4 yeah.
[01:00] <AuroraAvenue> k
[13:06] <Dry_Lips> Any way to completely disable the default ubuntu dock? I want to use plank instead
[13:11] <Dry_Lips> Can I simply delete it from /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions ?
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[13:39] <zanshin> Dry_Lips: Maybe this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/145376/disable-dash-docking-feature-in-gnome-shell
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[13:48] <Dry_Lips> zanshin , I just deleted it from /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions , hopefully it won't break anything
[14:04] <zanshin> Dry_Lips: Log out and back in and see what it complains about. :)
[14:04] <Dry_Lips> I've done so, no complaints so far
[14:39] <teward> Are the desktop editions of Ubuntu and variants supporting PowerPC still?  (Asking because of a question posted on Ask Ubuntu).  I didn't see any daily ISO tasks for the desktop builds, but I thought I'd ask.
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[16:16] <JediMaster> Hi all, I'm having an issue with an Intel NUC running 18.04 not being able to see USB drives (Western Digital external USB 3.0 hard drives)
[16:17] <JediMaster> Nothing appears in /var/log/syslog as the USB is connected or removed, nothing in 'lsusb' other than a USB 3.0 and 2.0 controller
[16:17] <JediMaster> Yet the USB ports work, plugged in a keyboard which appears in syslog and lsusb, and the drive works on another (mac) machine
[16:18] <JediMaster> The drive is externally powered with LED on, and just swapping the USB cable alone to the other machine is fine (same plug/socket for power)
[16:19] <JediMaster> I don't see any new block devices referring to the disk either, any ideas?
[16:24] <JediMaster> nothing new in lsblk or in /dev/disk/by-id/
[16:32] <JediMaster> ok, I have found a way to make it work, it's ridiculous, you have to boot the machine with the drive attached
[16:33] <JediMaster> The lsusb, lsblk and /dev/disk/by-id all show the disk
[16:33] <JediMaster> *Then
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> found new Bug #1758974
[16:57] <ubottu> bug 1758974 in indicator-multiload (Ubuntu) "Indicator-multiload does not work properly 18.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758974
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[17:33] <BionicMac> google doesn't like tor. =0
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: ?
[17:36] <BionicMac> I searched google and got blocked for suspicious activity on tor browser.
[17:37] <BionicMac> I really need to find a live usb OS that can access APFS.
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: thats not really bionic related?
[17:38] <BionicMac> Oh, I apologize. off topic for sure. 
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: you could try #ubuntu-offtopic indeed
[17:38] <BionicMac> ok cool. loose chat in there. thanks.
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: you got daily 18.04 working on a mac?
[17:39] <BionicMac> Fresh and clean and mean. indeed. iMac 5k 27" 
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> nice, we had a user here that had issues with booting
[17:39] <BionicMac> driver display has resolutions greater than the native OSX High Sierra.
[17:40] <BionicMac> Tell them "refind" I will get the article I folowed and have the link handy.
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: interesting
[17:40] <BionicMac> Word to the wise, It is very easy to trash the mac boot loader and not be able to boot, like me. no osx for now and I really don't care.
[17:41] <BionicMac> grub and refind and osx boot loaders seem to battle this thing.
[17:41] <BionicMac> Tread lightly or lose the ability to boot osx.
[17:47] <BionicMac>  lotuspsychje, I am seriously thinking about buying another mac, this time cheap and used to run Ubuntu on. 
[17:48] <BionicMac> This 27" iMac is basically brand new, 1 year old, 1TB ssd, 24G ram... Intel® Core™ i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz × 8 ... AMD® Radeon r9 m395x ... 
[18:12] <AuroraAvenue> hello walkers!
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> AuroraAvenue: welcome, what can we do for you?
[18:12] <AuroraAvenue> 2 sugars, please ?
[18:12] <AuroraAvenue> only jking.
[18:13] <AuroraAvenue> I am just here to chat about Bionic syuff.
[18:13] <AuroraAvenue> **stuff.
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> AuroraAvenue: chat about ubuntu fits in #ubuntu-discuss mate, here is for support more
[18:13] <AuroraAvenue> okay.
[18:14] <AuroraAvenue> sorry.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> no sweat ;)
[18:16] <BionicMac> AuroraAvenue, How goes it? 
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[20:21] <Ars-> anypne tell me plz
[20:21] <Ars-> how to block all connections ubuntu LTS
[20:51] <Faux> sudo ufw default deny
[20:51] <Faux> sudo ufw default deny outgoing
[20:52] <Faux> Depending on what you mean.
[22:49] <BionicMac> What file do I edit now that X is not using a xorg.conf anymore? I need to add a section for my trackpad and the synaptics driver.
[22:50] <BionicMac> Section "InputClass" <- in the old days of xorg.conf I would adad a section like so.
[22:50] <BionicMac> s/adad/add/
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