[04:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader EriC^
[06:17] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:17] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:19] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> im fine guys, last week before holidays
[06:20] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje
[06:22] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:22] <lordievader> Nice lotuspsychje
[06:22] <ducasse> hi lordievader - all well?
[06:23] <lordievader> Doing good here, how are you?
[06:24] <ducasse> i'm fine, thanks - just beginning to wake up :)
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> coffee & tea for all
[06:31] <ducasse> just a couple days more work, lotuspsychje? :)
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> yeah ducasse finally
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> then 17 days off
[06:39] <ducasse> oh, wow - that sounds nice. any plans?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah all kinds of stuff
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> but all go with the flow
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> nothing palnned fixxed yet
[07:24] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[07:25] <ducasse> morning, EriC^^
[07:27] <EriC^^> morning ducasse , how are you?
[07:27] <ducasse> i'm good thanks, how are you?
[07:34] <EriC^^> good thanks
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> bbl work
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:14] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:14] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader, fine here, and you?
[11:14] <lordievader> Doing good here.
[11:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[11:50] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj :)
[11:53] <lordievader> Hey pauljw
[11:53] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:54] <pauljw> hi lordievader, doing good thanks.  you?
[11:54] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[13:41] <ducasse> hiya BluesKaj, pauljw
[13:48] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse
[13:50] <ducasse> BluesKaj: any plans for the easter holidays?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> yes, my daughter is coming to visit on Fri and will stay for the weekend including Mon. How about you ducasse?
[13:53] <ducasse> my cousin is coming for a visit on thursday, i might go and visit my mother + sister and kids in the weekend if they're at home. other than that no plans.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> my daughter is looking at buying a new vehicle and is leaning towards a VW jetta or even a used Passat ...the 2018 's have received very medoicre reviews for both, but apparently the 2017 model jettas are are much better in terms of handling and power
[14:02] <ducasse> i'm totally ignorant about cars, as i've never owned or even driven one
[14:04] <BluesKaj> I see, ok.
[14:05] <lordievader> The VW Up is quite nice. Though I guess not really an option for someone looking at a Passat 😉
[14:05] <BluesKaj> lordievader, think she prefers the jetta
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Passats a re lame frpm what I've read about them
[14:06] <BluesKaj> from
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> !isitoutyet
[16:58] <daftykins> \o
[16:58] <daftykins> must be wrong :D
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> yeah juste dited it
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> edited
 !isitoutyet is Not yet!
 Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail
[16:59] <hggdh> heh
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> and howdy daftykins
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> hey hggdh
[16:59] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: cheers
[16:59] <hggdh> I frankly would rather have it as isitoutalready, though
[17:00] <hggdh> but it gets too long
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> yeah, party si pretty dead still either :p
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> oh cool bionic theme has changed a bit
[17:03] <daftykins> more accurate would be: isthebuggyfirstreleaseoutyet
[17:03] <daftykins> followed by isthenearlyusablefirstpointreleaseoutyet
[17:04] <hggdh> daftykins: s/first/new/
[17:04] <hggdh> :-)
[17:04] <daftykins> first release of a given number, makes sense to me
[17:04] <daftykins> 'initial' would be better perhaps
[17:05] <hggdh> well, yes, agreed
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> https://imgur.com/a/sQvUv
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> left side in nautilus grey
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> !isitoutyet
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> stil not fixed
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> :-[[
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> I thought the color scheme was changing in 18
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: think i saw an article that the new theme would not apply
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/ubuntu-18-04-lts-no-new-gtk-theme
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> A snap theme??? really, a snap! blech
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah im not gonna test that either
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> AuroraAvenue: welcome
[18:14] <AuroraAvenue> hello
[18:14] <AuroraAvenue> (I shall probably regret saying that ;)
[18:14] <AuroraAvenue> lotuspsychje, we ave spoken before.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> could be
[18:15]  * AuroraAvenue nods
[18:16] <AuroraAvenue> lotuspsychje, Do they 'allow' biscuits where you live ? or do they inflict those things called 'cookies' at your locale ?
[18:17] <AuroraAvenue> BionicMac, sup, buddy ?
[18:17] <BionicMac> Bionic Beaver chewing on this mac. =)
[18:17] <AuroraAvenue> cool.
[18:18] <daftykins> apart from the mac bit ;D
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> bbl tv time
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> goo luck daftykins lol
[18:19] <BionicMac> I wasn't careful where I had grub write the boot-loader and trashed osx's ability to boot.
[18:21] <daftykins> i found it pretty easy to get them to coexist last time i had an old mac kicking around
[18:21] <BionicMac> My fault for not looking close during Ubuntu install.
[18:21] <daftykins> although they are hell in general for boot antics :D did an SSD upgrade for a clients Late 2009 iMac recently
[22:16] <BionicMac> It feels so great to just install and "use" linux with minimal configuration. a little apt here, a little therr... boom. excellent.
[22:18] <daftykins> only when the hardware is supported (:
[22:18] <BionicMac> true, I got lucky.
[22:20] <BionicMac> Very lucky. I have better display resolution with bionic than I had with osx.
[22:20] <daftykins> retina device and you've just got 1:1 instead of hiDPI now by the sounds?
[22:22] <BionicMac> 3840 x 2160 (16:9) on beaver. well I lied , the max on osx is 5120 x 2880. Yes, 5k retina.
[22:22] <BionicMac> don't know about 1:1 hidpi
[22:23] <BionicMac> I dropped it to 3200 x 1800 so I could see. =)
[22:23] <daftykins> HiDPI is when it does the pixel quadrupling so the UI elements (like the dock and finder bar) appear normal size
[22:24] <BionicMac> You lost me.
[22:24] <daftykins> ah with LCD you have to run 1:1 or it'll appear blurred if it's scaling it up to the edges, wouldn't fancy that myself
[22:26] <BionicMac> I would really party if I could get this apple magic trackpad 2 tweaked. It works great already but no gestures. just plain point and click.
[22:27] <daftykins> i detest those things :D encountered them on clients macs
[22:27] <BionicMac> I tried 'touchegg' to no avail, and some X configs. nothing.
[22:27] <daftykins> does it detect multi-touch at all? so does two finger scrolling work?
[22:27] <BionicMac> No.
[22:28] <daftykins> SOL then :)
[22:28] <BionicMac> straight up point/click and dbl-click
[22:28]  * BionicMac plays a sad song...
[22:28] <daftykins> actually let me ask someone
[22:29]  * BionicMac crosses fingers 
[22:29] <daftykins> nope never tried
[22:30] <BionicMac> I have me old handy regular 10 year old usb logitech connected too. So yeah, I'd rather have gestures on the pad.
[22:30] <BionicMac> Can't even get right-click on the pad.
[22:31] <BionicMac> this calls for more chips and salsa.
[22:31] <daftykins> that's how you know you bought Apple
[22:34] <BionicMac> It should be called "TrApple.
[22:34] <BionicMac> Trapped by the mighty monster.
[22:34] <BionicMac> iCLoud this iCLoud that....blah blah blah...
[22:38] <daftykins> :>
[22:40] <BionicMac> which xorg.conf does bionic use?
[22:40] <BionicMac> if any?
[22:40] <BionicMac> I found a howto with synaptics driver for the pad but I need to edit that file or whichever file X is using.
[22:44] <daftykins> something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ - i don't use desktop so am not the best for that
[22:44] <daftykins> could always:find /etc -name "xorg.conf"
[22:45] <BionicMac> ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[22:45] <BionicMac> but no xorg.conf anywhere
[22:45] <nacc> BionicMac: there is none by default
[22:45] <nacc> it's not needed anymore
[22:46] <daftykins> ah yeah i forgot about that xD
[22:46] <daftykins> wow am i rusty
[22:46] <nacc> daftykins: :)
[22:46] <daftykins> yeah you had to generate one to put custom config in, but i'm pretty sure you're not gonna get anywhere
[22:46] <BionicMac> so where would I put -> this tye info now? -> https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-use-apple-magic-trackpad-ubuntu-multiple-monitors
[22:47] <BionicMac> s/tye/type/
[22:47] <nacc> BionicMac: in a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?
[22:47] <nacc> which is what daftykins said
[22:47] <BionicMac> although I don't need multiple monitors , I need the InputClass section or whatever is relevant now.
[22:47] <nacc> this is getting dangerously close to support, though, adnd better asked in the support channel(s)
[22:48] <daftykins> ^ i was in a rare mood of feeling nice
[22:48] <nacc> daftykins: :)
[22:48] <daftykins> and since it's bionic - #ubuntu+1
[22:48] <BionicMac> So #ubuntu+1. thanks.
[22:48] <nacc> BionicMac: yeah )
[22:48] <BionicMac> Thank you nacc and daftykins.
[23:10] <AuroraAvenue> What does everyone thing about this #ClusterMuck ?
[23:10] <AuroraAvenue> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/870bcn/snap_support_for_peek_screen_recorder_discontinued/
[23:11] <daftykins> justified reason for what is precisely wrong with snaps - and if you can get that program by another means, it's moot
[23:12] <AuroraAvenue> hmm - seems a wayland issue.
[23:12]  * AuroraAvenue prefers Mir anyway :)
[23:14] <daftykins> ah too early to be concerned with wayland issues
[23:14] <daftykins> Mir, so you're backing a dead-un? not wise!