| bluesabre | New xfpanel-switch release coming soon, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xfpanel-switch-dev/xfpanel-switch/trunk/revision/112 | 03:04 |
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| ochosi | Unit193: then again it's very likely people will install stuff like Vlc and it would suck if it looked out of place | 04:53 |
| Unit193 | It's possible sure. | 04:54 |
| ochosi | just sayin, certain apps that are considered 'standard' are qt | 04:55 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: nice, didnt have xfpanelswitch on the radar, good job! | 04:55 |
| Unit193 | Well if we feel that strongly about VLC, I'd say s/parole/vlc/ then.. | 04:55 |
| flocculant | ochosi: on the other hand - no-one cared much when I had to sort it out for me :p | 04:55 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Cared enough to make sure the env var is set, so all one has to do is install a package. | 04:56 |
| flocculant | Unit193: that was a long wait ;) | 04:56 |
| ochosi | Unit193: that was not at all my point though | 04:56 |
| Unit193 | Because nobody gets Qt5 and the answer keeps changing, first it was QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE. | 04:56 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Sure, but nevertheless. People do all sorts of things, I really don't think that's the answer here. | 04:57 |
| ochosi | flocculant: yeah sry, got into the cycle a little late... | 04:57 |
| flocculant | personally I'd think that supplying people with the information for this is sufficient | 04:57 |
| ochosi | right, but if it's a <1mb package incl depends... | 04:58 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, need to document it well and obviously. :/ | 04:58 |
| flocculant | re knome's comment - would the answer be the same if we were space constrained | 04:58 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: 60+mb | 04:58 |
| ochosi | we used to get this right in the past | 04:58 |
| ochosi | oh, ouch | 04:58 |
| ochosi | i thought it was just a tiny pkg | 04:58 |
| Unit193 | Because it pulls in all of Qt5, which is my point. | 04:59 |
| ochosi | meh, i guess i should've more carefully read | 04:59 |
| flocculant | we could easily get into a cycle of we've got plenty of room - why not install the kitchen sink | 04:59 |
| Unit193 | The package is really tiny if you're installing vlc, keepassxc, or something else Qt5 because it's already pulling in the base libs. | 04:59 |
| ochosi | i guess there is no way to solve this on the packaging side by making it a depend of aomething in xubuntu? | 05:00 |
| ochosi | or maybe we could make it a depend of some extras package | 05:00 |
| flocculant | there's a meeting tomorrow - not sure who's going to be around for that | 05:01 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu-qt5? One would still have to know to install it. | 05:01 |
| ochosi | hmm | 05:03 |
| flocculant | we've got our wiki - under our control - this seems like an ideal time to start using it to give users information | 05:05 |
| flocculant | anyway - in and out for the next 30 mins | 05:06 |
| ochosi | maybe even worth including it in the release notes | 05:31 |
| flocculant | right | 05:31 |
| ochosi | originally i was thinking something like xubuntu-restricted-extras, but thats not the right place either | 05:32 |
| ochosi | we could also patch an infobar into the appearance settings dialog to warn the user or give a button to easily install | 05:32 |
| Unit193 | And IIRC that's just a 'symlink' to ubuntu-restricted-extras now. | 05:32 |
| flocculant | memory's not what it was - but I think I've needed this package for 2 cycles prior to this one | 05:33 |
| flocculant | so it's not something new | 05:34 |
| flocculant | ochosi: I like the infobar idea | 05:34 |
| flocculant | gtg now - back later | 05:34 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Right, just the info keeps changing. :/ | 05:35 |
| flocculant | mmh | 05:35 |
| Unit193 | Amusingly, since Dropbox bundles libs it still uses QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE. :P | 05:36 |
| Unit193 | And if you export both, things look horrid. | 05:36 |
| Unit193 | ....Well, used to then. Now: QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. | 05:36 |
| ochosi | yeah, but the 'info changing' is exactly what you can hide behind the infobar | 05:38 |
| ochosi | plus it would only conditionally show up | 05:38 |
| ochosi | anyway, not sure about it... | 05:38 |
| Unit193 | Biggest concern would be the patch or whatnot getting out of date. | 05:39 |
| bluesabre | and translations | 09:10 |
| Unit193 | Err...Yeah. | 09:10 |
| bluesabre | maybe the dep chain could be improved with the base qt libraries | 09:11 |
| bluesabre | have one of 1) kde, 2) lxqt, 3) razor, 4) qt5-style-plugins | 09:11 |
| bluesabre | so qt apps don't look like garbage on anybody's machine | 09:11 |
| Unit193 | razor isn't something to consider anymore. | 09:12 |
| mantissa | Hey guys, just wanted to ask something quick. I'm a 3D artist using Xubuntu every day and wanted to see if I could donate some artwork for the LTS. Am I too late in the cycle for that? | 10:56 |
| slickymasterWork | mantissa, thanks for your offer | 11:27 |
| slickymasterWork | knome will be the best member to reply you | 11:28 |
| slickymasterWork | in case you won't be around when he gets bacl I advise you to mail our mailing list about it | 11:29 |
| slickymasterWork | the email for that is xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 11:29 |
| mantissa | Ah perfect, I'll stick around for a bit and if I son;t see him, I'll drop an email. Thanks! | 11:31 |
| slickymasterWork | sure, he's our artwork lead | 11:32 |
| slickymasterWork | again thanks for the offer | 11:32 |
| mantissa | No worries, happy to give back! :) | 11:34 |
| ochosi | mantissa: what kind of artwork would you like to contribute? if it's about default wallpapers, the community contest's submission period has already ended for 18.04... | 13:25 |
| mantissa | Ah ok, didn't realize there was a contest for it. That was what I wanted to suggest. If I'm too late that's too bad. | 13:29 |
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