[03:08] <glitchd> anyone know why all of a sudden my install doesnt want to display in the correct resolution by default, and i have to use xrandr manually to change it to the correct resolution?
[03:09] <glitchd> this just started happening in the last few hours
[03:09] <glitchd> and i havent changed anything
[03:09] <glitchd> or installed anything
[10:27] <bailey> hello?
[10:28] <bailey> I don't know if this is connected to anything but if it is could someone please help me with installing xubuntu?
[10:29] <bailey> I can get it to install but then it asks me to restart the computer and when I do I go back to the install screen
[10:30] <Spass> bailey, hello, maybe you just need to remove your installation media?
[10:31] <Spass> DVD or USB
[10:31] <bailey> I tried that earlier, it just went to a screen of error failures
[10:33] <Spass> Seems like a broken installation, but you will have to tell us more about those errors.
[10:35] <bailey> ok, just restarted and it says that I have to reboot and select proper boot device
[10:36] <Spass> You need to boot from a drive where you installed your boot manager (GRUB).
[10:36] <Spass> Do you have multiple disks or operating systems on your computer?
[10:37] <bailey> no, during the install i selected theboption where it deleted windows to replace it with xubuntu
[10:39] <bailey> how do I boot from the drive where I installed GRUB?
[10:42] <Spass> You can choose your boot device in BIOS (or using a shortcut key during the boot).
[10:44] <bailey>  in the change boot order section?
[10:45] <Spass> Yes. Try to boot from your hard drive first, that one with Xubuntu.
[10:45] <Spass> And if that doesn't work tell us more about that "screen of error failures".
[10:45] <bailey> thats what it is set to
[10:46] <bailey> hdd/ssd then usb then odd then lan
[10:51] <Spass> OK, what are those errors you see after boot? What version of Xubuntu are you installing? 16.04 or 17.10? 32-bit or 64-bit? Is your computer old or fairly new?
[10:52] <bailey> I cnat find the errors anymkre, I am installing 16.04 64-bit an d my computer is from around 2014, a sattelite c-50b
[10:53] <bailey> when I start up the computer I am in the install screen area
[10:54] <bailey> there are 4 options, try xubuntu, install xubuntu, oem install and check disc for defects
[10:54] <bailey> when I click install xubuntu it goes through the install process
[10:55] <bailey> but once it goes to the end it tells me to restart the computer to finosh installing somethinv (or something similar, i cant remember exactly.
[10:55] <bailey> and once I restart it goes back to the beginning
[10:58] <bailey> I also selected the download updates whille installing xubuntu and the install third party software options
[10:59] <Spass> I was asking about your computer, because sometimes users are trying to install 64-bit system on a 32-bit processors, but it seems like all processors used in Toshiba C50 laptops are 64-bit, so that's OK.
[11:01] <Spass> Remove your installation media, reboot and tell us what error/message you can see on your screen.
[11:02] <bailey> reboot and select proper boot device
[11:02] <bailey> or insety boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[11:12] <Spass> For some reason it doesn't see your Xubuntu installation at all, you can try to install again and choose "Something else" on Installation type screen and try to select partitions and device for boot loader manually.
[11:15] <Spass> As a fallback you can try to install Xubuntu 16.04.4 32-bit, but I don't really know what can be a problem here, sorry. Try to wait for someone with bigger experience/knowledge to help you.
[11:16] <bailey> its okay, thanks for helping, just quickly though, when you say to select partitions an device manually what should I actually do?
[11:17] <Spass> I'll send you a screen wait a second.
[11:19] <bailey> also, it says the ubuntk file is in an ext4, shoild I make that into a reserved bios boot area?
[11:21] <Spass> You should then see something like that - https://i.imgur.com/LZ9gafu.jpg
[11:22] <Spass> Double click your current /dev/sda1 ext4 partition, and format it again as Ext4 and choose / mount point, install your boot loader at /dev/sda
[11:27] <bailey> okay, im going to try it
[11:27] <bailey> hope it works
[11:27] <Spass> If it still doesn't help you can try to do the same, but install boot loader at /dev/sda1 (choose it from list at the bottom), and after that you can try 32-bit version or some other distribution to test/install.
[11:28] <Spass> BTW, before that did your Windows installation worked? Is your hard drive working fine?
[11:28] <bailey> okay, its saying nk root file system is defined?
[11:29] <bailey> yeah, it worked fine if a little slow
[11:29] <bailey> thats why I decided to switch to xubuntu
[11:30] <Spass> You need to choose your "/" mount point, that's what your root system is.
[11:31] <Spass> Like on the screen I sent you.
[11:34] <bailey> okay, its going through
[11:34] <bailey> lets see if it decides to work this time
[11:35] <bailey> thanks again for your help spass
[11:40] <Spass> It's bad that you got this experience with installing Xubuntu, but I hope you have some patience to investigate further and test some other options. And as much as I love Xubuntu, you can try to install other distros too.
[11:42] <Spass> And if you can, stay in this channel for a while, maybe someone had similar problem with 16.04 recently.
[11:43] <bailey> I would but its starting to get rather late over here
[11:43] <bailey> anyway, thanks yet again for your help
[11:44] <Spass> No problem, cheers.
[15:29] <Draconiator> I'm trying to figure out which Linux distro would be perfectly fine on a 2GB SD card used as an SSD
[17:33] <anonnumberanon> Hi I have a problem with the latest Xubuntu that I just installed. When i put the mouse pointer to the corner of the window to resize it, it takes a long time to find the right vector of resizing between side, up-down, diagonal, when what I want is diagonal. I tried to changed border.width in the themerc file already, to no avail, anyone with this issue who fixed it?
[18:34] <ne1uno> anonnumberanon I think the default theme has a one pixel grab target. I found after searching explitive deleted hard to grab windows xubuntu, change or edit theme. not sure why anyone thinks it's fun to have frustration as a default
[18:35] <ne1uno> btw, practically my only complaint so far. everything else was pretty smooth
[18:41] <knome> anonnumberanon, ne1uno: https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:46] <ne1uno> knome:  thanks, that puts all the workarounds in one place, but doesn't explain why there doesn't need to be larger targets even if transparent. the page is proof people have a problem with it out of the box. why the need to educate people to use inferior grabbing methods? it's a we know best attitude where nobody wins and 5 years is a really long time  for developers not to get it
[18:46] <knome> ne1uno, well you are welcome to contribute the code required to make it work obviously
[18:46] <knome> or in other words, this is not really trivial as xfwm has no support for this
[18:47] <ne1uno> point taken, though just changing to a theme with larger grabbers solves the short term problem and might have been put as the prefered fix as well. someone is in love with their theme and doesn't want to change it?
[18:49] <ne1uno> somewhat weird as I say because everything else about the installation and usage so far in my casual use has been fantastic.
[18:49] <knome> work on greybird-a11y (accessibility) with bigger window borders has been started, but tbh this hasn't been the top priority
[18:50] <knome> ideally we'd like bigger resize areas without making the actual window borders larger
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> I see
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> not a deal breaker
[18:50] <knome> but this isn't solvable from the theme point of view
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> i wish I used Alt more so this would feel more natural to use the Alt+Right Click+Move Mouse
[18:51] <anonnumberanon> but it's probably my favorite way out of all alternatives on this page
[18:51] <knome> you should look at the other window manager shortcuts you can use with alt too, maybe that'll make you get used to using alt ;)
[18:52] <knome> alt+left-click-drag moves windows too
[18:52] <knome> and you can even change the modified key to, say, super (windows key on most keyboards)
[19:25] <ondondil> Is it possible to set subtitle delay with parole?
[21:15] <RoadRunner> hard disk  full (don't know with what) and "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't liberate any more space.  Help?
[22:24] <RoadRunner> is ssh server a part of the default xubuntu 16.04 install?
[22:27] <Unit193> Server? No.
[22:31] <RoadRunner> is it hard to install?
[22:32] <terminalator> sudo apt install openssh-server
[22:34] <RoadRunner> seems simple enough, is it a big app?
[22:36] <terminalator> 903 kB
[22:58] <RoadRunner> is there a decent visual disk space usage app like Treepie or WinDirStat under Win?
[23:00] <flipper887> How do I remove unneeded language packs?
[23:06] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: baobab
[23:06] <tomreyn> flipper887: you identify the packages and uninstall them.
[23:10] <flipper887> tomreyn, I just reinstall every time the amdgpu-pro-drivers break my installs
[23:11] <tomreyn> flipper887: this also works fro removing unneeded language packs. although it can seema little over the top.