[18:59]  * slangasek waves
[18:59] <mdeslaur> ±o
[18:59] <mdeslaur> \o
[19:01]  * stgraber waves
[19:02] <slangasek> kees: chairing?
[19:02]  * mdeslaur crosses fingers
[19:03] <mdeslaur> we're going to need an attendance raffle soon
[19:05] <mdeslaur> ok, I'm backup chair
[19:05] <mdeslaur> #startmeeting
[19:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 27 19:05:09 2018 UTC.  The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:05] <mdeslaur> [topic] Apologies
[19:05] <mdeslaur> nobody apologized.
[19:05] <mdeslaur> wait a sec, quorum is 3, right?
[19:05] <slangasek> I would say so
[19:05] <mdeslaur> ok
[19:05] <mdeslaur> [topic] Action review
[19:06] <mdeslaur> flexiondotorg To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[19:06] <slangasek> I haven't seen anything on the list or in the moderation queue
[19:06] <mdeslaur> yeah, I don't see anything either
[19:06] <mdeslaur> ok, carry
[19:06] <mdeslaur> tsimonq2 to bring up the support/release status of lubuntu-next on the TB list, and then submit patches to maintenance-check according to the final plan
[19:07] <tsimonq2> Hello.
[19:07] <mdeslaur> tsimonq2: hi! what's the status on that?
[19:08] <tsimonq2> I haven't gotten to doing this yet, but I think I'm revoking Lubuntu's position on releasing Lubuntu Next with 18.04.
[19:08] <mdeslaur> tsimonq2: ok, can you follow up to the list once you've decided?
[19:08] <slangasek> tsimonq2: "revoking the position" means you think you want to not release it?
[19:09] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Correct.
[19:09] <slangasek> ok
[19:09] <tsimonq2> I still think patches to m-c would be useful.
[19:09] <tsimonq2> LXQt is fairly fast-paced and supporting it for the length of an LTS is not ideal.
[19:10] <tsimonq2> Is the TB fine with that?
[19:11] <tsimonq2> (Should I still email the list?)
[19:11] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I'm not sure I understand; is this in context of supporting/not supporting lubuntu, as opposed to lubuntu-next?
[19:11] <slangasek> (I don't use Lubuntu and am not sure without looking which components are in lubuntu)
[19:12] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Right. Lubuntu Next is a separate product entirely, despite sharing packages. *-gtk and *-share should be supported for three years while Lubuntu can't commit to *-qt having three years of support.
[19:12]  * kees is fashionably late
[19:13]  * mdeslaur gives kees the stinkeye for making him chair
[19:13] <tsimonq2> slangasek: It's one seed, which makes it complicated.
[19:13] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ok.  I think it would be very irregular to have only part of the image supported for 3 years
[19:13] <kees> I did half-chair last time! :)
[19:13] <tsimonq2> slangasek: It's not shipped in the same image.
[19:13] <slangasek> ah
[19:13] <tsimonq2> -share and -gtk are Lubuntu, -share and -qt are Lubuntu Next.
[19:13] <tsimonq2> So, two separate ISOs.
[19:13] <slangasek> tsimonq2: then yes, if it's not part of the Lubuntu image (which is what I meant to ask - sorry), I think some m-c surgery here is warranted
[19:13] <tsimonq2> OK.
[19:14] <tsimonq2> slangasek: What's my deadline?
[19:14] <tsimonq2> Release day or earlier?
[19:14] <tsimonq2> (Not that I'll procrastinate much longer.)
[19:14] <slangasek> tsimonq2: earlier. we need to land the code, and it needs to regenerate the overrides in the archive
[19:14] <tsimonq2> OK.
[19:14] <slangasek> tsimonq2: give us 2 weeks lead before release, please
[19:15] <tsimonq2> I'll do that by the next TB meeting (that kees should chair ;P)
[19:15] <mdeslaur> hehe
[19:15] <kees> :)
[19:15] <tsimonq2> :D
[19:15] <mdeslaur> ok, moving along
[19:15] <mdeslaur> infinity to update LTS support status of kylin to 3y (done) and then call for confirmation of LTS status from all flavours.
[19:15] <mdeslaur> I don't see the call for confirmation on the list
[19:16] <tsimonq2> #action tsimonq2 to propose patches to maintenance-check regarding Lubuntu Next
[19:16] <meetingology> ACTION: tsimonq2 to propose patches to maintenance-check regarding Lubuntu Next
[19:16] <mdeslaur> so, carry forward
[19:16] <mdeslaur> infinity to ask maas team to prepare SRU exception policy à la CurtinUpdates
[19:16]  * mdeslaur shrugs
[19:16] <mdeslaur> carry forward
[19:16] <mdeslaur> slangasek to investigate getting tagged ubuntu-community bugs automatically forwarded to technical-board, and if not feasible, fall back to DMB sending signed emails to list for ACL requests
[19:17] <slangasek> punt
[19:17] <mdeslaur> we also have "[rbasak] Please decide if xchat should be removed as requested in bug 1753169 in time for Bionic."
[19:17] <slangasek> I mean, feel free to take it off the nag list as well since this has been low-priority
[19:17] <mdeslaur> but slangasek responded to the list
[19:17] <slangasek> and we seem to be muddling through with the current process
[19:17] <mdeslaur> slangasek: ack
[19:18] <mdeslaur> [topic] Mailing list archive
[19:18] <mdeslaur> I don't see anything on the list that needs discussion
[19:19] <mdeslaur> [topic] Community bugs
[19:19] <mdeslaur> no bugs
[19:19] <mdeslaur> [topic] Next chair
[19:19] <kees> \o
[19:19] <mdeslaur> next chair will be kees, with kees as backup
[19:19] <mdeslaur> ;)
[19:19] <slangasek> haha
[19:19] <tsimonq2> >:D
[19:19] <mdeslaur> kees with slangasek as backup
[19:20] <kees> in looking at the calendar, I am reminded that April 1st fast approaches.
[19:21] <mdeslaur> is there something special about that, or are you just worried about all the practical jokes I'll be doing at your expense?
[19:21] <mdeslaur> Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?
[19:21] <slangasek> nothing here
[19:21] <slangasek> well
[19:22] <slangasek> actually, what happened to the request for review of the seeded snaps policy?
[19:22] <slangasek> did that fall off the agenda?
[19:22] <mdeslaur> I don't see it
[19:22] <slangasek> huh
[19:22] <slangasek> I also don't see that I had added it
[19:23] <slangasek> so, do you feel like talking about it? :)
[19:23] <slangasek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSeededSnaps
[19:24] <mdeslaur> Do you want us to look that over for next time? look at it now?
[19:24] <slangasek> did I fail to post it previously to the list?  I guess it'd be a bit much to ask for a realtime first readthrough right now
[19:25] <slangasek> seems I didn't post it to the list
[19:25] <slangasek> so if you haven't all read it from when I posted it to ubuntu-devel, I guess we should punt to next meeting
[19:26] <mdeslaur> I'll add it to the agenda for the next meeting
[19:26] <slangasek> mdeslaur: thanks
[19:26] <mdeslaur> sorry, I need time to read it carefully and think it over
[19:26] <slangasek> of course
[19:26] <mdeslaur> anything else?
[19:27] <mdeslaur> #endmeeting
[19:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 27 19:27:30 2018 UTC.
[19:27] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2018/ubuntu-meeting-2.2018-03-27-19.05.moin.txt
[19:27] <mdeslaur> thanks everyone
[19:27] <tsimonq2> o/
[19:27] <slangasek> thanks!
[19:28] <stgraber> thanks!