[06:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:46] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[06:48] <brobostigon> o/
[07:18] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[07:18] <knightwise> hey zmoylan-pi
[07:18] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[07:28] <knightwise> do you know if there might be a BBS client in the Ubuntu repositories ?
[07:28]  * knightwise is curious
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> how would you test it? are there any bbs still operating in uk?
[12:03] <knightw0rk> zmoylan-pi: i heard the cyberpunk librarian talk about it on his show
[12:03] <knightw0rk> apparently there are still bbs severs connected to the net on port 22
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> i hope they support kermit... i can't stand those namby pamby wishy washy fiddly new file transfer protocols... :-D
[12:16] <knightw0rk> would just like to know how you connect and what is still there
[12:16] <knightw0rk> I love legacy tech (hence IRC)
[12:17] <zmoylan-pi> it's _THE_ place for you star trek vga res wallpagers...
[12:20] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/suchipi/status/978332662141104128
[12:21] <knightw0rk>  	
[12:21] <knightw0rk> asirta.com (telnet)
[12:21] <knightw0rk> try it
[13:45] <diddledan> what do we think we're getting from apple today, then?
[13:45] <diddledan> (1hr 15min)
[13:45] <SuperMatt> another product that was clearly invented somewhere else, but now has a new name
[13:46] <diddledan> no live steam today
[13:48] <zmoylan-pi> a cheap ipad. well for apple... 0 ports to make charging more fun... it'll be like an etch a sketch. shake it to charge it... keeps kids fit too... :-)
[14:01] <daftykins> y'know the super skinny 12" macbooks launched ~2015 or so? they've all begun having the keyboards fail / a component on the board fails rendering them useless :D
[14:03] <diddledan> yey
[14:04] <daftykins> at least Louis on youtube has been seeing a large influx of them
[14:04] <diddledan> didn't those have a weird keyspring that people universally hated?
[14:05] <daftykins> yeah new design that's super clacky
[14:05] <diddledan> GNU Terry Pratchett
[14:06] <diddledan> oh you didn't mean clacks overhead
[14:10] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/TunnelsUp/status/976536957751910400
[14:25] <daftykins> they've never heard of "dial before you dig!"
[15:01] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/reneritchie/status/978647405196402688 does anyone else think of the Matt LeBlanc version of Lost In Space when you see or hear the word "blorp"?
[15:03] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/settern/status/978648488614551553 what's an "apple pencil style drawing"?
[15:08] <diddledan> apple are helping out in schools: https://images.scribblelive.com/2018/3/27/588b500c-ca48-48cb-80e8-ed59c82ed593.jpg (shot taken last week)
[15:19] <diddledan> Huston, we have an iPad.
[15:19] <diddledan> REpeat, we have an iPad
[15:30] <diddledan> what is it with american schools and cutting open frogs?! com
[15:31] <diddledan> err... http://www.twitter.com/settern/status/978655353641594880
[15:39] <daftykins> * Houston :D
[15:39] <diddledan> spillage chucker didn't complain....!
[15:41] <daftykins> funny part was reading yours wiped my memory of the real one for a minute
[15:41] <zmoylan-pi> the matt leblanc version of lost in space is the first movie i stopped watching half way through after renting it... awful
[15:42] <diddledan> snob
[15:42] <daftykins> did you rewind the tape in anger?
[15:42] <zmoylan-pi> of course
[15:43] <zmoylan-pi> and i'll watch the worst sci fi but that lost in space was a step too far...
[15:44] <diddledan> well they're rebooting it so you get another chance to hate it
[15:45] <daftykins> i just had flashbacks to all the sound effects my parents 80s VCR made during every function
[15:46] <zmoylan-pi> and you could tell from the motor whine how close it was to the end of the tape...
[15:46] <diddledan> eeeerrrrkk chunter chunter chunter clip
[15:46] <diddledan> click*
[15:46] <zmoylan-pi> top loading sony tank vcr... also known as the cat tosser... for reasons...
[15:47] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: yes xD
[15:47] <diddledan> tosser!
[15:48] <diddledan> apparently Apple used Swift to make Swift Playgrounds. duh
[15:48] <diddledan> http://www.twitter.com/settern/status/978659825746931713
[15:49] <diddledan> and the curriculum goes "from step one" to the end
[15:49] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/settern/status/978660024162676736
[15:51] <zmoylan-pi> a is for apple™️
[15:54] <diddledan> apple are replacing teachers with unpaid workers: http://www.twitter.com/reneritchie/status/978660893331304448
[15:54] <zmoylan-pi> school arts and crafts is now assemble apple gear...
[15:55] <daftykins> diddledan: i think it might be more efficient to wait for a wrap up piece ;)
[16:00] <zmoylan-pi> but then he can't bounce up and down with excitement over a $329 9.7" ipad
[16:00] <diddledan> $30 off for students!
[16:00] <diddledan> that's a whopping 9%
[16:00] <zmoylan-pi> unless they want to use an ipencil in which case add $99
[16:01] <diddledan> nah, sturends get $10 off that ! :-p
[16:01] <diddledan> wtf is a sturend?
[16:01] <zmoylan-pi> sturgeons pretenting to be students...
[16:02] <diddledan> I think that's it for the show
[16:03] <zmoylan-pi> so... interesting but probably not enough to halt google. they might jump over ms though
[16:03] <daftykins> MS don't have tablets?
[16:04] <zmoylan-pi> they have surface pros.  but apple are at 17% v ms 22% and googles 60% in education market
[16:05] <daftykins> they're obviously not in the same segment though, lowest tier iPads + Surfaces
[16:05] <zmoylan-pi> and the surface pro although it has had great reviews has had terrible hardware failure rates
[16:05] <daftykins> in the first two generations yeah
[16:05] <zmoylan-pi> that might be enough to sink it
[16:05] <daftykins> they properly had the customers test 'em ;D
[16:13] <zmoylan-pi> well it seems to have passed the customer banging their head against the desk it's resting on...
[16:18] <diddledan> apparently nvidia are doing something, too: https://www.ustream.tv/gpu-technology-conference
[16:19] <daftykins> maybe unveiling their new 'volta' gen at last
[16:20] <daftykins> he's got his trademark leather jacket!
[16:22] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/marciahofmann/status/978637746855006210
[16:24] <daftykins> sheesh
[16:25] <zmoylan-pi> the nvidia bitcoin miner card... :-)
[16:26] <diddledan> htf are they doing realtime raytracing?!
[16:28] <diddledan> hah, ok $68000 computer
[16:28] <daftykins> a piece i read the other day with Tim Sweeney from Epic said... yeah, 4 graphics cards in one
[16:30] <diddledan> sigh. deep learning
[16:30] <diddledan> bingo!
[16:30] <diddledan> who didn't have deep learning on their bingo card??
[16:30] <zmoylan-pi> trump?
[16:47] <diddledan> lol: https://twitter.com/kylealden/status/978674740406640640
[16:48] <daftykins> "and where's the machine you do real work on?"
[16:51] <daftykins> ergh these images are too small in the nvidia pres
[16:52] <zmoylan-pi> you mean my emacs console? :-) https://78.media.tumblr.com/42076a3e5a77a0ff6e3fa93567e1f9aa/tumblr_p62jdzvyqb1qz6f9yo1_1280.jpg
[16:52] <diddledan> is that kim jong-un at the end?
[16:52] <zmoylan-pi> so far away you can't tell...
[16:57] <daftykins> nah that's Shatner
[16:57] <daftykins> ;)
[17:11] <diddledan> that's a beast nvidia thingy
[17:11] <diddledan> the 16 Tesla V100
[17:11] <diddledan> DGX-2
[17:12] <diddledan> 2 petafloppies
[17:12] <diddledan> 10kiloWatts, though, is probably meaning it is a bit too beafy for my cupboard
[17:12] <daftykins> diddledan: time to pop one under your desk
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> you'll need *2* hamsters in wheels to power it!
[17:13] <daftykins> oof that's going to double his infrastructure
[17:13] <diddledan> frak
[17:14] <diddledan> that means twice the gruel expenditure
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> the costs in wd40 alone to stop the wheels squeaking at night...
[17:15] <diddledan> I prefer using children to hamsters, anyway.. they're less needy
[17:15] <diddledan> and easily replaced
[17:16] <daftykins> that's true
[17:16] <daftykins> your siblings stop answering the orders pretty quickly though
[17:18] <diddledan> $1.5 meeeleon dollar
[17:18] <diddledan> oh alright, 399 fowsand
[17:20] <daftykins> his needle needs to be nudged, he keeps getting stuck!
[17:22] <diddledan> apparently it's RTM day: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/155147/windows-10-redstone-4-rtm-released-insiders
[17:23] <daftykins> oh my
[17:28] <diddledan> is it me, or is the nvidia dude a bit looney?
[17:28] <daftykins> i think like he said it's just because he's not prepared xD
[17:28] <diddledan> aye
[17:29] <daftykins> but yeah there's a lot of nuttery here
[17:29] <daftykins> degenerator networks?
[17:29] <diddledan> lol he got lost
[17:30] <diddledan> I don't blame him though, machine learning acronyms are terrible
[17:31] <daftykins> earlier though he kept badgering that guy to speak, then kept talking over him
[17:35] <daftykins> diddledan: there we go he just referenced us!
[17:35] <diddledan> d'oh I was concentrating elsewhere
[17:36] <daftykins> oh he just said "all the people watching this online will be saying i've lost it"
[17:36] <diddledan> aha lol
[17:38] <daftykins> it doesn't matter if it's one, all it's doing is a swoosh across a bunch of flower pics!
[17:44] <daftykins> diddledan: looks like consumer news is coming :O
[17:44] <daftykins> think it was on a different day last year though
[17:46] <diddledan> that's a name
[17:47] <diddledan> noise to noise denoising
[17:47] <diddledan> what noise annoys a noisy oyster?
[18:10] <zmoylan-pi> ah shucks?
[18:13] <diddledan> nah, a noisy noise annoys a noisy oyster
[22:34] <diddledan> I had an awesome problem with my Win10 Insider install.. too many C:\Windows.old(n) where n is a number that it refused to let me delete... until I used the Windows Subsystem for Linux and deleted them from that
[22:37] <daftykins> xD
[22:37] <daftykins> disk cleanup wizard does 'em too
[22:37] <diddledan> nope
[22:38] <diddledan> only does non numbered ones
[22:38] <daftykins> oic
[22:38] <daftykins> that's a bit fail
[22:38] <diddledan> i.e. only C:\Windows.old not C:\Windows.old(1)
[22:38] <daftykins> but then so is running insider!
[22:38] <daftykins> y'got that RTM build now, then?
[22:38] <diddledan> not yet. I haven't let it reboot
[22:40] <daftykins> ah so you're testing it like a standard Windows user, stubbornly avoiding updates ;D
[22:42] <diddledan> yup. you can't find all the bugs unless you defer updates for weeks
[22:42] <daftykins> \o/
[22:45] <diddledan> letting yourself get hacked by running a non-updated release, through a hole that they've since fixed, is a bug, right?
[22:47] <daftykins> probably to someone :D
[22:47]  * diddledan watching an fbi drama.. is it appropriate to use weapons from the evidence locker to kill bad guys?
[22:48] <daftykins> oh speaking of bugs and what not, my Asus Z170 mobo finally got the update with the new microcode in after the recent dramas, you had one for your board too? i forget if it was gigabyte or MSI
[22:48] <diddledan> yup, mine's the giganut z170-ud5 th
[22:48] <diddledan> I installed that about a week ago maybe?
[22:49] <daftykins> ah maybe they're just a lot quicker
[22:49] <daftykins> or maybe it's a lot buggier :D
[22:49] <diddledan> they've released three different editions (the previous two have since disappeared from their site)
[22:50] <diddledan> versions F22e, and F22f have disappeared, leaving just F22g as the latest and the previous one before that listed as F22d
[22:56] <daftykins> could be the ones that were causing reboots
[22:57] <diddledan> aye
[22:57] <diddledan> one of them was the january 30/31 release of microcode
[22:57] <diddledan> which was the evil buggy bar tender
[23:00] <daftykins> speaking of bars... the restaurant by me that recently refurbished went from a shocking 2 boring beers on tap, to 0
[23:05] <zmoylan-pi> just order the toilet duck so... :-)
[23:05] <daftykins> *quack*
[23:09] <diddledan> haha! sucks to be you :-p
[23:09] <diddledan> I vote long island iced teas instead
[23:55] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/norcross/status/978357554010099712
[23:56] <daftykins> :D