[00:00] <immortal2> heres my aplay https://pastebin.com/ACJqaYKx
[00:01] <devslash> so you need audio on card 0
[00:01] <devslash> hmm I dunno
[00:02] <sonicwind> I have one user account and it logs me in automatically... if I add another user with useradd script, do I need to do something extra to get the greeter to show up or does useradd take care of that also?
[00:03] <sonicwind> oops I mean adduser script
[00:03] <devslash> like greeting text when you log in ?
[00:04] <sonicwind> the login text where you pick a name to login
[00:04] <sonicwind> and password
[00:04] <devslash> oh
[00:04] <devslash> itll add the name automatically
[00:04] <sonicwind> oh ok great
[00:04] <fundies> can anyone tell me how I get backportpage check universe?
[00:04] <sonicwind> thank you devslash
[00:05] <immortal2> no one really knows :(
[00:07] <devslash> oh wait
[00:07] <devslash> I do know of one other thing immortal2
[00:07] <immortal2> whats that
[00:07] <devslash> on my samsung TV, I have to go to  the TV menu settings and change the output to speaker in order to get the sound to play out thru the TV
[00:07] <immortal2> i have it setup with a soundbar though
[00:08] <devslash> I dont know...
[00:12] <immortal2> this is lame
[00:13] <devslash> have you tried to boot a live DVD and see if it works that way
[00:14] <immortal2> yup
[00:15] <devslash> no go ?
[00:15] <immortal2> never had issues with linux mint but it just kept freezing
[00:15] <devslash> so you have had issues with Mint
[00:15] <immortal2> not with the sound though
[00:15] <devslash> if it kept freezing thats a big issue
[00:15] <devslash> I know.. sorry I dont know what else to tell you
[00:17] <immortal2> i keep thinking when i get mint its for intel though
[00:17] <Bashing-om> !sound | immortal2
[00:17] <immortal2> done it all
[00:20] <fundies> can anyone tell me how I get backportpakage check universe?
[00:22] <fareast> I am going to run ubuntu mate just cause I used kde before but mate looks good enough its simple right?
[00:22] <leftyfb> fareast: try it and determine for yourself
[00:22] <fareast> from what I seen I like it
[00:24] <fareast> I don't need all the extra plasma crap I like simple but not too many frills it looks like it is pretty simple for file management right I can make desktop icons out of the box and navigate efficiently.
[00:24] <fareast> I like to use my desktop as a workspace time to time.
[00:25] <btp> You're able to have 2 installed at once. Just log out and switch before you sitdown for work.
[00:37] <fundies> can anyone tell me how I get backportpakage to check universe?
[00:41] <leftyfb> fundies: asking your question every 15 minutes will not get your answers any quicker
[00:41] <fundies> idk bout that
[00:41] <fundies> different ppl join every second
[00:42] <leftyfb> fundies: And the number of people joining every second that are volunteers who can actually help you is closer to zero than any most numbers
[00:42] <leftyfb> fundies: The answer is, read the man page or follow a tutorial. It's no different than backporting packages from main
[00:42] <fundies> leftyfb, I did
[00:42] <leftyfb> fundies: ok, good, so everything worked for you then
[00:43] <fundies> its not finding the pakage that is in universe
[00:43] <leftyfb> fundies: what package?
[00:43] <fundies> and its not listing universe as a place it looked
[00:43] <fundies> lists security updates and proposed
[00:43] <fundies> its libgrpc-dev
[00:44] <leftyfb> fundies: what release are you trying to backport to and from?
[00:45] <leftyfb> !info libgrpc-dev
[00:46] <fundies> leftyfb, any to trusty
[00:47] <btp> it appears him asking got help faster... son of a gun
[01:06] <fundies> can anyone tell me how I get backportpackage to check universe?
[01:07] <leftyfb> fundies: please stop asking the same question over an over and over again
[01:07] <leftyfb> !patience | fundies
[01:07] <fundies> leftyfb, sure if I can get an answer
[01:07] <leftyfb> fundies: no
[01:08] <fundies> leftyfb, yes
[01:09] <leftyfb> fundies: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[01:09] <leftyfb> fundies: please read through the section entitled "Don't repeat your question every few minutes"
[01:09] <fundies> leftyfb, i wait over 3 minutes every time
[01:10] <bitbug> leftyfb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/BackportsHowToHelp
[01:11] <leftyfb> bitbug: I am not the one needing help, nor does that link help
[01:11] <bitbug> sorry.... it was for fundies :D
[01:12] <fundies> bitbug, I've read that
[01:13] <bitbug> fundies, and the man page? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/backportpackage.1.html
[01:14] <fundies> yes
[01:14] <bitbug> I dont even know what you trying to do... but ok :D
[01:15]  * bitbug getting sleepy... time to go
[01:15] <fundies> bitbug, I want to backport libgrpc-dev to trust but backportpackage can't find it
[01:16] <fundies> it's in universe but backportpackage doesn't list universe as a place it looked
[01:16] <fundies> it lists security updates and proposed
[01:36] <dayou_> das
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, you can't backport it because it has impact on the system you are targetting. Backport Package will not backport a package that potentially will adversely affect your system. It's right there on the page you were asked if yuo read
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, -dev packages are linked to the compiled module
[01:48] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, so how do I tell it quit whining and do it
[01:50] <pragmaticenigma> what currently in your system is dependent on it?
[01:51] <fundies> nothing?
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> if nothing is dependent on it at the moment, i would think purging it and then trying backport should work
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> that's assuming libdrpc is installed
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> can't type libgrpc
[01:52] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, im in a trusty vm the package doesnt even exist
[01:52] <pragmaticenigma> otherwise, as soon as I attempt to install libgrpc-dev it auto select libgrpc0
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> what is in the trusty environment that you cannot use a new version of ubuntu to compile with?
[01:53] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, travis-ci
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, and it won't compile on a newer version of Ubuntu?
[01:55] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, travis-ci runs trusty
[01:55] <fundies> I cant upgrade the ubuntu it uses
[01:55] <pragmaticenigma> Did you see this fundies ?? https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/reference/trusty/
[01:55] <fundies> yes
[01:55] <fundies> what about it?
[01:56] <fundies> theres no grpc-dev in trusty. travis runs trusty. I need to backport it in ppa
[01:56] <fundies> backportpackage doesnt work
[01:56] <fundies> thats how I ended here
[02:00] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, if it were me, I'd be reaching out to travis-ci user groups... as they probably have run into this issue and may have a workaround
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, or at the very least can help you get this up and running
[02:02] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, work around is to make a ppa with packages you need
[02:02] <fundies> which im trying to do
[02:02] <fundies> is purely an ubuntu issue at this point
[02:03] <pragmaticenigma> that's above and beyond the capabilities of myself, and probably a good number of the volunteers here
[02:04] <leftyfb> fundies: it's not a problem with Ubuntu. Ubuntu 14.04 has all the packages it needs to support the packages that are officially available to it. Since you are trying to use software not officially available or supported, then the problem is with the software in question.
[02:05] <fundies> leftyfb, its a problem with trusty
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, if this doesn't help you, we can't help you
[02:05] <leftyfb> it's not
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Enabling_Backports_Manually
[02:05] <fundies> leftyfb, theres a reason trusty-backports exists
[02:05] <leftyfb> fundies: you are trying to make a package work in trusty that doesn't officially work in trusty
[02:06] <fundies> i could finr bug on trusty-backports but who knows when they'll get to it
[02:06] <fundies> file*
[02:06] <leftyfb> fundies: it's not a problem with trusty-backports
[02:06] <fundies> yes it is
[02:06] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, the package repositories that are published are published for the operation of Ubuntu and it INCLUDED software. You are using a 3rd party software application in a version of ubuntu now 4 years old. In my opinion you are expecting a miracle for something that is only getting security updates at this point in time
[02:06] <leftyfb> no, it's not
[02:06] <fundies> leftyfb, read the page you linked me lmao
[02:07] <fundies> to request a package be backported file a bug on trusty backports
[02:07] <fundies> backports is missing the package
[02:07] <pragmaticenigma> when fundies you have your answer then... don't you... make a bug report
[02:07] <pragmaticenigma> s/when/well/
[02:08] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, I don't have 6months to wait till ubuntu people get to it
[02:08] <fundies> so next step in backporting guide
[02:08] <fundies> is to do what im doing
[02:09] <leftyfb> what you are doing is non-trivial and not supported
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, If https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Enabling_Backports_Manually doesn't work for you, we can't help you here
[02:10] <fundies> leftyfb, using an ubuntu program is not supported
[02:10] <fundies> not even a linux one a tool part of ubuntu-dev-tools
[02:10] <fundies> lol
[02:10] <pragmaticenigma> fundies: we are volunteers, not the developers, we have limited ability to channel something like that up. and even those that can, are more than likely going to tell you the same thing. file a bug report
[02:12] <leftyfb> fundies: the problem is NOT with -backports or backportpackages. It is, by design, preventing you from breaking your system by installing a package from a release of ubuntu 8 versions and 4 years ahead of your release
[02:15] <fundies> leftyfb, backportpackage should rebuild it for my sytem
[02:15] <fundies> thats the point
[02:15] <leftyfb> lol
[02:15] <fundies> thats what backporting is
[02:15] <fundies> ...
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, you're confusing you're personal requirements with the greater good of all users that use trusty
[02:16] <fundies> pragmaticenigma, im confusing #ubuntu with a place to get help with ubuntu specific software
[02:16] <fundies> im a lunatic
[02:17] <leftyfb> fundies: you are right. Ubuntu is broken. Sorry, we cannot help you here. File a bug.
[02:17] <fundies> leftyfb, im sure theres one knowledgeable ubuntu user out there somewhere
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> if there is, they aren't here
[02:18] <fundies> is why I keep asking waiting for one to appear
[02:20] <leftyfb> fundies: repeatedly asking a question which you have already received valid answers for goes against the guidelines of this support channel.
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, you've been at this for 4 hours and I've seen replies from some of the most knowledgeable people here. If they don't know, then you aren't going to find an answer here
[02:21] <fundies> leftyfb, it has not recived a valid answer
[02:21] <fundies> so far people completly unaware what backporting is have made an attempt to help but clearly it's out of your conform zone
[02:22] <leftyfb> fundies: offending the volunteers here also goes against the guidelines
[02:23] <fundies> leftyfb, I don't recal saying annything offensive
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, it has nothing to do with comfort zone. travis-ci is not a Ubuntu supported application. If you cannot use the tools that have been provided by Ubuntu, then you will need to seek your answers somewhere else
[02:23] <fundies> travis-ci isn't an application
[02:23] <fundies> its an ubunutu instance
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> and it's still NOT SUPPORTED
[02:24] <fundies> you can take travis-ci out of the equation
[02:24] <fundies> it's irrelevant
[02:24] <fundies> im asking how do I port grpc to ubuntu trusty
[02:25] <fundies> using an ubuntu tool
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, then we're back to the previous comment... the repositories, backports included, are designed to prevent users from breaking their systems. If the option doesn't exist, there's no possible way for us to help you
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, it either works or it doesn't
[02:25] <leftyfb> You don't. Doing so is not supported. Hence why backportpackages doesn't let you
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> AGAIN DID YOU READ THIS PAGE FULLY??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Enabling_Backports_Manually
[02:26] <fundies> yes
[02:26] <fundies> thats for using existing backports
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> fundies, if you did EVERYTHING on that page... and it doesn't work, IT'S NOT SUPPORTED... we're done here
[02:26] <fundies> im trying to add a new backport
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> move on, any further pressing of the matter is a violation of the code of conduct
[02:26] <fundies> no it does not
[02:27] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | fundies , asked and received an answer, is not willing to accept
[02:27] <fundies> it's not an answer
[02:36] <bcx> why can't I bridge the loopback interface ?
[02:38] <pragmaticenigma> bcx, By very definition, you CANNOT talk to a loopback adapter from any other machine but your own.
[02:39] <leftyfb> bcx: what is it exactly you're trying to accomplish?
[02:39] <bcx> i'm trying to create a loopback-only network namespace
[02:39] <leftyfb> bcx: why?
[02:39] <bcx> to netns exec a browser in it
[02:40] <bcx> without access to lan/wan
[02:40] <bcx> only lo
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> that's not what a bridge is for
[02:41] <bcx> I could create a bridge with lo+veth1
[02:41] <bcx> pragmaticenigma: bridge are for nothing except bridging interfaces
[02:42] <leftyfb> bcx: use iptables
[02:42] <bcx> maybe I should use another inteface type for 127.0.0.1 ...
[02:43] <bcx> leftyfb: a bare netns has no access to root lo
[02:44] <evulish> how do i configure screen power saving settings for a console-only display?
[02:45] <evulish> no x server
[02:46] <bcx> evulish: check /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[02:47] <bcx> who creates lo interface ? network-manager ?
[02:47] <pragmaticenigma> evulish, look here https://askubuntu.com/a/130541
[02:48] <bcx> actually I don't need lo
[02:48] <bcx> i can just remove lo and have a bridge at 127.0.0.1
[02:49] <bcx> or just veth1
[02:50] <bcx> veth1:127.0.0.1 in root netns <--> veth2:127.0.0.2 in jailed netns
[02:53] <bcx> the issue is that downling lo may break services already listening on it, all this should be done at boot instead of runtime
[02:54] <bcx> I may also loose some perf (loopback fast implementation & huge mtu)
[02:54] <evulish> pragmaticenigma: acpi is def on, nothing else seems really relevant
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> evulish, https://askubuntu.com/a/47439 further down
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> evulish, look at setterm options
[02:57] <evulish> just about to try that
[02:58] <bcx> evulish: check IdleAction & IdleActionSec in systemd documentation
[02:59] <evulish> well setterm did it
[03:00] <evulish> but now how do i get that to happen at the login prompt?
[03:02] <evulish> https://superuser.com/questions/152347/change-linux-console-screen-blanking-behavior
[03:02] <evulish> add it to rc.local?
[03:03] <bcx> evulish: check /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[03:05] <evulish> bcx: not sure what i'm looking for.. those look like the put the whole system to sleep
[03:08] <xgpt> hey y'all, just curious, what's the difference between "&" and "&&" at the end of a command? What's the best way to run a command in the terminal, and have that program still run after that terminal is totally murdered/obliterated? Is there a way to start a program from the command line and not have it be associated with the terminal and just run on the desktop?
[03:09] <guiverc> xgpt, & runs the command in the background.   && is a conditional; the following command runs ONLY if first command succeeded
[03:10] <exhahe> >.<   I'm just going to live in shell for 3 months.  I'll catch on
[03:10] <bcx> evulish: i'm not an expert but i think systemd is responsible for emiting the idle signal, don't know who is the receiver as you dont even have xset to play with dpms
[03:10] <evulish> exhahe: nohup, disown, and screen are the three ways i can think of to not rely on a terminal
[03:11] <bcx> tmux also
[03:12] <exhahe> I have Tmux installed.  I'm scared to live in it
[03:12] <evulish> i've left stuff running in screen for like years
[03:13] <evulish> nothing vital but irssi or something haha, not to say that irssi isn't vital
[03:14] <exhahe> Irssi is my pref irc client on one of my VMs
[03:16] <exhahe> Just got my System76 laptop.  I'm seriously thinking living in shell... Just to learn faster and get used to it
[03:16] <exhahe> I'm definitely going to need a cheat sheet
[03:21] <evulish> well that didn't work
[03:21] <exhahe> nohup? disown?  I have to look that up
[03:26] <evulish> man my server takes forever to boot
[03:26] <clu3> I'm trying to upgrade my server from ubuntu 14 to 16, and following this release note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[03:26] <clu3> but i cant install update-manager-core package
[03:27] <clu3> so essentially i fail at the very first step : "Install the update-manager-core package if it is not already installed"
[03:28] <t0no6a> clu3 and what about reinstall without delete any partition?
[03:29] <clu3> @t0no6a i can only access it via terminal , it's a hosted server
[03:31] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/3ctCW0by this is what i got when trying to install the package
[03:32] <clu3> and "-f install" will give a lot of other dependency crap related to core packages
[03:32] <clu3> any help greatly appreciated
[03:38] <evulish> okay so working solution, added consoleblank=300 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[03:46] <guiverc> clu3, python3-update-manager you should update from is 1:0.196.11.25 (trusty) but your error says 196.21 is to be installed?  i'd check your sources.list* files to ensure you have updates enabled  (just a thought)  https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python3-update-manager
[03:59] <clu3> @guiverc yes my apt sources list is really messy. Thanks for the suggestion
[04:00] <clu3> checking it first...
[04:02] <clu3> idk why there's sources.list.distUpgrade in my sources and it's pointing to "precise"
[04:02] <guiverc> clu3, i'd also `apt update && apt dist-upgrade` first  (196.25 is where this will take you to)
[04:03] <clu3> @guiverc after installing that "update-manager-core" package right?
[04:04] <clu3> also i'm a little lost on what to do with my sources now... just cleaning them all up?
[04:04] <guiverc> i would do it first (apt-get upgrade if you don't want to dist-upgrade) - before any changes to bring your system up to 14.04LTS latest! (which is 196.25)
[04:05] <guiverc> assuming your sources.list* is okay; check that first & get rid of unwanted or wrong/historic stuff
[04:06] <clu3> maybe i'll just remove all other sources except for that main trusty source
[04:10] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[04:13] <Bashing-om> clu3: guiverc :: I would think the main concern is getting the kernels straightened out as the 1st priority.
[04:13] <clu3> @Bashing-om yep currently i'm having the issues with those linux-image*-generic packages
[04:14] <clu3> which tbh is beyond my knowledge, ie idk what to do with those
[04:14] <guiverc> i suspect its related - if updated correctly (sources.list* fixed) i hope both python3-u..m. & linux-3.13.0-143* will both be fixed -- but i'm hoping..
[04:15] <clu3> I cleaned up all sources.list and it's not @guiverc . it's still complaining about those linux-image packages
[04:16] <clu3> python3-update-manager/trusty-updates 1:0.196.25 all [upgradable from: 1:0.196.21]
[04:16] <guiverc> after cleaning sources* did you `sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade` ??
[04:16] <Bashing-om> clu3: I have been on this keyboard now several hours, and my think'n is kinda forced and cloudy. but pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' ; see what we can do .
[04:16] <clu3> no not yet @guiverc, just apt upgrade
[04:17] <clu3> ok @Bashing-om, thank you!
[04:18] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/0we6jh68 here it is
[04:18] <Bashing-om> clu3: Look'n .. stand by .
[04:19] <clu3> @guiverc i "apt update" and then tried to install that python3 package and it failed, complaining about those linux- packages
[04:19] <katnip> why the @
[04:19] <guiverc> as Bashing-om predicted :)
[04:20] <Bashing-om> clu3: still look'n but this is UN-Good " iU  linux-generic-lts-saucy " .
[04:21] <clu3> what should i do with it? Yep i don't know how it got there ^^ @Bashing-om
[04:23] <clu3> if i'm not wrong maybe i did an apt dist upgrade from ubuntu 12 to this one. That's why it has some precise, saucy stuff in there. Maybe. This server's been there for like 5-6 years. i can't even recall any more :(
[04:24] <Jonno_FTW> I'm trying to build something that uses openmpi, but cmake wants  MPI_EXTRA_LIBRARY, but it's not found, even though it finds mpi_library, what is mpi_extra_library supposed to look like?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> clu3: We fix the kernels, show what kernel is presently booting as we MUST not mess with it ' uname -r ' .
[04:25] <clu3> 3.13.0-101-generic @Bashing-om
[04:25] <nacc> fundies: sorry, i'll be back tmrw
[04:25] <fundies> nacc, ok
[04:27] <clu3> @katnit it's just my habit i used in some other software. when doing this it will "alert" the other person
[04:27] <Bashing-om> clu3: Take a gentle poke at it ' sudo apt remove linux-generic-lts-saucy ' . If that flies we move on .
[04:28] <clu3> @Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/bgNRVQAr
[04:28] <clu3> it's basically still complaining about those linux- packages
[04:31] <Bashing-om> clu3: We find the key ... try ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic ' .
[04:31] <clu3> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic which isn't installed
[04:33] <Bashing-om> clu3: good : try as ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13.0-110-generic ' .
[04:37] <clu3> @Bashing-om pls wait a sec, i have to clean up , "no space is left"
[04:38] <Bashing-om> clu3: ouch ,, dpkg should be able to work in that event ..., we may have to give it a bigger bite .
[04:46] <clu3> @Bashing-om it seems it's not about disk space https://pastebin.com/kB8UjE4b
[04:47] <clu3> i removed quite a bit of my hdd and it's still complaining like that
[04:49] <Bashing-om> clu3: " /dev/sda1         240972    238952         0 100% /boot " If worse comes to worse we can get real dirty to resolve this .
[04:50] <Bashing-om> clu3: Next move is ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic ' .
[04:51] <clu3> and in /boot, i see a lot of those packages stuff
[04:51] <clu3> oh this one got killed ^^ thanks
[04:53] <Bashing-om> clu3: Uh huh .. that is where the problem is . we work at it ..with the goal to get 3.13.0.143. fully installed .
[04:55] <clu3> @Bashing-om so the idea is to remove all of them linux-image-extra-3.13.0-X-generic where X<143 right?
[04:55] <Bashing-om> clu3: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13.0-112-generic ' .
[04:56] <clu3> boom, 112 gone
[04:56] <Bashing-om> clu3: only somewhat .. we want to leave the -41 and 43 kernels as well as the 101 .
[04:57] <Bashing-om> clu3: ' sudo dpkg -P inux-image-extra-3.13.0-133-generic ' .
[04:58] <Bashing-om> linux** clu3
[04:58] <clu3> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-113-generic which isn't installed
[04:58] <clu3> @Bashing-om i got it ^^
[05:01] <Bashing-om> clu3: Yeah it has it issues ;; try ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-133-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-133 ' /
[05:02] <clu3> @Bashing-om it's gone
[05:02] <clu3> headers -133 removed
[05:02] <clu3> headers *-133 removed
[05:05] <clu3> should we proceed with 141?
[05:05] <Bashing-om> clu3: Fomme a bit to work up a mass murderer as we now have operating room /
[05:05] <clu3> yep /boot is now 90%
[05:06] <clu3> still a lot of those 101,103...109 installed though
[05:08] <clu3> @Bashing-om should i just remove all of those 101....109 packages? is it safe to do so
[05:15] <ubuntu2018> asdf
[05:15] <ubuntu2018> hi
[05:18] <Bashing-om> clu3: Ues .. remove them .. got to many gaps to do it safly .. ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-103 ' then ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-103-generic " same same for  linux-image-3.13.0-103-generic and linux-image-extra-3.13.0-103-generic . This looks to be a long slow process .
[05:18] <clu3> yep it's fine i can do it ^^
[05:19] <ubuntu2018> make
[05:27] <Bashing-om> clu3: When all the extranious 3-13 kernels are gone we still have to deal with " iU  linux-generic-lts-saucy " .
[05:33] <fuseteam> 😂
[05:44] <Bashing-om> clu3_: Srill working ? ready for the next step ?
[05:44] <clu3_> yes
[05:45] <clu3> @Bashing-om : sorry i got carried away
[05:46] <clu3> i made a very bad mistake. current kernal is version 101 but i removed it as well
[05:46] <Bashing-om> clu3: If all the old 3.13 ( 3.13.0.110 !! _ are gone mow tru again ' sudo dpkg -P linux-generic-lts-saucy ' .
[05:47] <clu3> it's gone as well
[05:47] <clu3> there's only 141 & 143 left. I accidentally removed 101 as well :(
[05:48] <clu3> which 101 is my current version . that's how bad it is now :(
[05:48] <Bashing-om> clu3: Yukkie !!! we can not reboot untill we have this all cleaned up  as now we have no booting kernel .
[05:48] <clu3> yes
[05:48] <clu3> am i f***ed yet?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> clu3: No .. we can recover .. time and effort .. just no reboot 'till we are golden .
[05:49] <clu3> cool
[05:50] <clu3> so.... https://pastebin.com/E4p9YZQ8 this is the current situation
[05:54] <koolblu> hello
[05:54] <Bashing-om> clu3: rebuild - 1 of 4 ' sudo apt install linux-headers-generic  ' .
[05:55] <clu3> this is complaining about the dependency as before
[05:56] <Bashing-om> clu3: show me .. maybe I have the order of install wrong ??
[05:58] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/SdFMusSi
[06:00] <Bashing-om> clu3: Oh I see where I made my mistake .. I want to see ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .. too see if the meta packages are present .
[06:01] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/86emLWKZ
[06:05] <Bashing-om> clu3: remove less 101.141. 143 all the header files - then we return to saucy // then we start rebuilding .
[06:15] <koolblu> hello
[06:16] <clu3> @Bashing-om done
[06:16] <clu3> what should i do next
[06:17] <Bashing-om> clu3: Now try again ' sudo dpkg -P linux-generic-lts-saucy ' .
[06:18] <clu3> it's already removed before
[06:20] <Bashing-om> clu3: Not according to that last dpkg -l . Show a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . see where awe are now .
[06:21] <clu3> yep, it's iU status
[06:21] <clu3> iU  linux-headers-generic-lts-saucy          3.13.0.110.118                                       amd64        Generic Linux kernel headers
[06:21] <clu3> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-generic-lts-saucy which isn't installed
[06:24] <Bashing-om> clu3: :) ,, show a new 'dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[06:25] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/jFqyFHxs
[06:25] <clu3> @Bashing-om
[06:29] <Bashing-om> clu3: remove the header files .. keeping linux-headers-generic,  linux-generic. -101, -141, -143 .
[06:33] <clu3> saucy removed @Bashing-om
[06:34] <Bashing-om> clu3: Yepper saucy os gome .. now to remove those useless header files .
[06:34] <Bashing-om> is gone*
[06:34] <koolblu> what is saucy??
[06:35] <Bashing-om> !suacy | koolblu
[06:35] <koolblu> thx
[06:35] <Bashing-om> !info suacy | koolblu
[06:36] <koolblu> !info saucy
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !saucy
[06:36] <Bashing-om> koolblu: suacy was an old EOL release .
[06:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) ... mu mind is gone !
[06:36] <koolblu> thx
[06:38] <clu3> @Bashing-om what should i do next?
[06:38] <Bashing-om> clu3: If all the old header files have been removed we start rebuilding .
[06:39] <clu3> i still have things like linux-headers-3.13.0-141 & linux-headers-3.13.0-141-generic
[06:40] <clu3> for 141 & 143 only
[06:40] <Bashing-om> clu3: Great .. show me now a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . see if we are now ready to build .
[06:41] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/mzejUkpB
[06:42] <Bashing-om> clu3: Building ! ' sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic ' .
[06:43] <clu3> linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.13.0-143-generic but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <clu3>                        Depends: linux-image-extra-3.13.0-143-generic but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <clu3> it's still complaining about those -143 packages
[06:44] <Bashing-om> clu3: Humm .. try ' sudo apt install linux-image-3.13.0-143-generic ' .
[06:44] <clu3> installing...looking good
[06:45] <Bashing-om> clu3: Next. try ' sudo apt install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-143-generic ' .
[06:45] <koolblu> yay! have no idea why anyone would want to install old image though...lol
[06:46] <clu3> all good now
[06:46] <clu3> apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic done
[06:46] <Bashing-om> koolblu: Once we are stable will get the -143 kernel installed and a back up .. then renove the older kernels once more .
[06:47] <Bashing-om> clu3: ' sudo apt install --reinstall linux-firmware  ' .
[06:49] <BlueShark> Hi. How to know what applications are taking how much memory? I want a list like: Chromium - 500 MB, GIMP - 200 MB and so on... htop lists several processes of the same application.
[06:49] <clu3> https://pastebin.com/g5TeiqRi @Bashing-om
[06:50] <clu3> i'm not sure if it's successful or not
[06:54] <qwer7y> 7y
[06:54] <meandrain> Hi, I boot an Ubuntu 16.04 machine from the network and default gw and dns are not setup. Any idea how to configure those? I've configured /etc/network/interfaces but it seems the configuration info from there is not used
[06:55] <Bashing-om> clu3: I do not know WHY fir,ware us compalining aboit the kernels we removed ! .. nest check and see what the story is / ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ' ls -al /boot/ ' . see what the deal is .
[06:59] <meandrain> here are my configs:  https://dpaste.de/fwiY
[06:59] <meandrain> the nfs machine boots without /etc/network/interfaces file and assigns ip
[07:02] <clu3> @Bashing-om https://paste.ee/p/tSg4r
[07:02] <clu3> (i got pastebin limit ^^)
[07:05] <jango> hi
[07:06] <koolblu> zxcasd
[07:09] <koolblu> @meandrain your network connection appears to me working to me..
[07:09] <meandrain> it works for a standalone machine. It does not work if that machine is booted via nfs
[07:10] <koolblu> oh..
[07:10] <Bashing-om> clu3: Beats me why .. but the fix ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.13.0-{110,112}* ; sudo rm /boot/*-3.13.0-{110,112,133}-generic ; sudo apt -f install ' .  show me the apt -f output .
[07:10] <meandrain> maybe it works if I choose dynamic for the nfs booted client ? I want to uses static ip config
[07:11] <koolblu> @meandrain I have no idea how to help, sorry..
[07:11] <meandrain> np, thank you
[07:11] <koolblu> :)
[07:11] <meandrain> It might be related to pxelinux
[07:11] <kes0> You could try switch to dynamic and see
[07:12]  * koolblu is a dummy
[07:12] <kes0> If it works
[07:12] <meandrain> I'll do that
[07:13] <clu3> @Bashing-om: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[07:13] <clu3>   linux-headers-3.13.0-141 linux-headers-3.13.0-141-generic
[07:15] <meandrain> using dynamic works except dns (no /etc/resolv.conf file is created)
[07:16] <bugzbunny> Is that a server?
[07:16] <meandrain> is a machine booted via NFS
[07:17] <bugzbunny> Headless?
[07:17] <meandrain> yes
[07:17] <bugzbunny> I am not familiar with 16.04, what service is bringing up the network?
[07:18] <Bashing-om> clu3: Great ! Ok, getting readu to pull that trigger . show a new ' 'dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . and then we look at your sources .
[07:18] <karalaine> hi, running 17.10, updated my thinkpad bios and now it freezes at graphical login after few seconds. even mouse freezes. any ideas? tried running apt upgrade from recovery but no effect
[07:18] <meandrain> I don't know, I am newbie to Ubuntu
[07:18] <bugzbunny> meandrain: systemctl status NetworkManager; systemctl status Networking; The latter is from memory
[07:18] <bugzbunny> There are guides out there
[07:18] <meandrain> I am thinking dhcp server from NFS machine is not sending the dns config
[07:19] <bugzbunny> No, that entirely depends on what is bringing up the networking on you Ubuntu client
[07:20] <meandrain> bugzbunny: https://dpaste.de/nScq
[07:20] <bugzbunny> Well, could also depend if you DHCP server is sending DNS information
[07:20] <clu3> @Bashing-om https://paste.ee/p/CCXH0
[07:20] <meandrain> I've configured dhcp server with: option domain-name-server 10.0.1.1;
[07:20] <bugzbunny> Dnsmasq?
[07:20] <meandrain> no
[07:21] <meandrain> an unbound cache dns
[07:21] <bugzbunny> What are you using for DHCP? systemctl list-units --type=service --all
[07:21] <meandrain> well, it is a similar thing, right ?
[07:21] <bugzbunny> Probably
[07:21] <bugzbunny> The configuration parameter looks familier
[07:21] <meandrain> dhcp server is isc-dhcpd
[07:21] <bugzbunny> K
[07:22] <Bashing-om> clu3: Look'n good finally ! Ok now show ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[07:23] <bugzbunny> meandrain: Have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[07:23] <meandrain> bugzbunny: thanx
[07:24] <meandrain> I've also added ip=dhcp to append line in my pxelinux.cfg, let's see if it helps (there's a mix of tftpboot, pxelinux, dhcp server)
[07:25] <clu3> @Bashing-om https://paste.ee/p/rzjD0 There's no sources.list.d (i removed 'em all earlier)
[07:27] <Bashing-om> clu3: That source should fly .. OK. now show me ' sudo update-grub ' .
[07:27] <clu3> Generating grub configuration file ...
[07:27] <clu3> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic
[07:27] <clu3> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-143-generic
[07:27] <clu3> Found memtest86+ image: /memtest86+.elf
[07:27] <clu3> Found memtest86+ image: /memtest86+.bin
[07:27] <clu3> done
[07:27] <meandrain> so using dhcp instead of static in /etc/network/interfaces made it work
[07:28] <Bashing-om> !paste | clu3 when you are un-quieted .
[07:29] <clu3> @Bashing-om i didnt release it would go to multiple lines that bad ^^
[07:29] <clu3> realize*
[07:29] <Bashing-om> clu3: we will live over it :)
[07:30] <kes0> d
[07:30] <Bashing-om> clu3: I want to be sure we are good to go . show in a pastie ' sudo update-grub ' .
[07:34] <clu3> @Bashing-om https://paste.ee/p/q11n4
[07:36] <Bashing-om> clu3: Humm .,. wonder why the other 2 kernels are not seen /// Do we care ?
[07:36] <clu3> i think probably not
[07:36] <clu3> let's go ahead and upgrade it ? ^^
[07:37] <clu3> but i'm pretty zero in all those kernel packages really
[07:38] <Bashing-om> clu3: Agreed .. OK .. Let's see what the system now thinks . paste ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[07:40] <clu3> you mean do-release-upgrade ? @Bashing-om
[07:40] <tanmoy96> hi
[07:40] <clu3> @Bashing-om : oh apt full-upgrade, got it
[07:40] <Bashing-om> clu3: No, not yet .. make sure our ducks are in a row before we pull that trigger .
[07:41] <clu3> yep
[07:41] <tanmoy96> how to get COM1 port in arduino that is used over the ubuntu MATE
[07:41] <clu3> apt thinks linux-headers-3.13.0-141 linux-headers-3.13.0-141-generic are not installed. Maybe that's why the update-grub didn't recognize it
[07:42] <clu3> anyway, i'm typing "Y" for apt full-upgrade
[07:42] <clu3> @Bashing-om: while i'm waiting, can you give me some background keywords, links so i can google and learn about the stuff you've been showing me pls?
[07:42] <clu3> kinda like i don't know where to start
[07:46] <Bashing-om> clu3: Yepper .. I did miss -141 not installed .. not a biggy .. but we will fix . // links for this .. right off the top of my head I do not know of any . What we did here is learned the hard way .
[07:49] <scuola> This server is free?
[07:49] <koolblu> server is free
[07:50] <Under> oh, wonderful thanks
[07:50] <Bashing-om> Under: Free as in beer ?
[07:50] <koolblu> not sure if your connection is free though...lol
[07:50] <Under> i can't modify the basic option :)
[07:51] <Under> Sry Bashing i live on Italy
[07:52] <koolblu> Under: are you using an internet cafe or connecting from home?
[07:52] <Under> i using the internet school
[07:52] <koolblu> should be free then :)
[07:52] <Under> i don't wanna do nothing i'm bored :)
[07:54] <geodb27> People : hi ! From what I know, I've installed both last chromium and adobe-flash (I know, but I need it, no choice). In a "nromal" chromium browser window, everything works fine. However, when I launch a private chromium window, flash refuses to launch. What am I doing wrong ?
[07:54] <ducasse> Under: this channel is for ubuntu support, if you want to chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <Bashing-om> Under: Bored and no ubuntu support question .. then join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:55] <geodb27> I'm running kubuntu 16.04 on my laptop, and everything is up-to-date (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y just launched a few minutes ago.
[07:55] <Under> LEL
[07:56] <bugzbunny> geodb27: 1) Chromium (such as Chrome), uses Pepperflash, 2) Chromium (and Chrome) disable flash by default
[07:56] <Under> this PC got a massive operative sistem, but now i have to back at mine lesson, Bye Bye
[07:57] <clu3> @Bashing-om: apt full-upgraded suceeded. yay
[07:57] <bugzbunny> geodb27: You'll probably need to go into you settings, either whitelist sites, which may get lost. Not too familier with incognito
[07:57] <bugzbunny> geodb27: Or enable for all sites
[07:59] <geodb27> bugzbunny: thanks for your help. The fact is that in both normal and incognito windows, I visit the same site, so flash is enabled.
[07:59] <geodb27> I mean, it is enabled and works fine since the site works in the normal window.
[08:00] <bugzbunny> geodb27: Incognito might be using different settings, double check your settings, search for Flash.. see what it says
[08:00] <bugzbunny> geodb27: While you are _using_ incognito
[08:00] <Bashing-om> clu3: Look'n good / check next what is set for grub to boot ' ls -al /vmlinuz* /initrd.img* ' .
[08:01] <clu3> initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-143-generic && /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-143-generic
[08:01] <clu3> so looks like it's all good right?
[08:03] <Bashing-om> clu3: I would think all is good . but would feel better if that back up kernel were in place . Not sure how the system will respond in the release upgrade ?
[08:04] <geodb27> bugzbunny: well, I gave it a try. what is annoying is that when I visit a site for the first time (normal mode), chromium asks wether to enable flash or not. I enabled it. The site loads. When I open the same site in incognito mode, flash is activated (I saw this left to the site's address), however, the page complains that flash is too old and that I should update it.
[08:06] <bugzbunny> Hmm, interesting, not sure what's going on there
[08:07] <Bashing-om> clu3: ' sudo apt install linux-image-3.13.0-141-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-141-generic ' .
[08:08] <geodb27> quite old but seems to be the same as what I'm facing : https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/8qU1VHhQ-JE
[08:09] <geodb27> Yet, I don't see anything related to flash either in chrome://components nor in chrome://extensions
[08:10] <bugzbunny> chrome://plugins is deprecieated when they depreciated NAPAI
[08:17] <Guest92825> ceph
[08:19] <ikonia> ?
[08:20] <andreb> hi all
[08:21] <andreb> i am looking for a working tutorial on setting up lavarel 5.3 on ubuntu 17.10 with php 7.0.. .most of the tutorials i ahve tried dont work
[08:21] <Guest92825> sorry, i am new,i dont konw what to do...
[08:22] <ikonia> Guest92825: you're in an IRC channel called #ubuntu, it has a set topic for ubuntu technical support discussion
[08:22] <ikonia> !guidelies | Guest92825
[08:22] <ikonia> have a read of the link the chat bot ubottu will send you, may help
[08:22] <ikonia> !guidelines | Guest92825
[08:24] <Bashing-om> clu3: Still with us ? status ?
[08:24] <clu3> 1 sec sorry i'm on meeting
[08:25] <clu3> apt install linux-image-3.13.0-141-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-141-generic ?
[08:25] <Bashing-om> clu3: K - I would .. and then reboot to see that you come up in the -143 kernel .
[08:26] <clu3> ok doing now...
[08:31] <elichai2> hey
[08:31] <elichai2> how can I install libprotobuf9 on 17.10?
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> !find libpro
[08:32] <clu3> done installing
[08:32] <clu3> @Bashing-om hold breath i'm rebooting
[08:32] <elichai2> MonkeyDust:  it's available on 16.04
[08:33] <Bashing-om> clu3: fingers crossed too :P
[08:40] <ghost2911> Hello all. Does anyone know a way to scan packages vulnerabilities on ubuntu ?
[08:41] <clu3> @Bashing-om: i can't ssh now :)
[08:41] <clu3> port 22 refused
[08:41] <clu3> i guess i'm doomed
[08:45] <Bashing-om> clu3: Ouch .. did not know you were remoting in . With out physical access to the machine , I know of no fix here :(
[08:45] <clu3> yep
[08:45] <clu3> ^^
[08:45] <tyoc213> I have downloaded latest 17.10, but it doesnt detect my evo emve SSD
[08:46] <clu3> No worries @Bashing-om
[08:46] <clu3> i guess i have to reset the machine
[08:46] <clu3> i already had backup so not a big deal really
[08:46] <tyoc213> it is possible to install on such a device? or it is to new to ubuntu installer?
[08:46] <clu3> thank you @Bashing-om, you've been awesome. I learned a lot as well
[08:46] <tyoc213> m.2 ssd drive
[08:47] <Bashing-om> clu3: I expect the system is good . Just reset networking .
[08:47] <Bashing-om> clu3: Well past my bed time .,.,I leave you with the mess .
[08:48] <clu3> supposed 143 is installed, then i can dist-upgrade normally right?
[08:48] <hateball> tyoc213: is the disk visible in bios/uefi?
[08:48] <clu3> @Bashing-om
[08:48] <hateball> tyoc213: it should work
[08:48] <tyoc213> yes hateball
[08:48] <tyoc213> :S
[08:48] <clu3> ok Bashing-om, thank you
[08:48] <clu3> and gnite
[08:49] <Bashing-om> clu3: do-release upgrade .. should be set and ready to go .
[08:49] <hateball> tyoc213: so is the installer not seeing the drive at all, or is it the grub install that fails?
[08:49] <tyoc213> hateball, gparted only sees the USB where IM running ubuntu
[08:50] <tyoc213> yes, the installer
[08:50] <tyoc213> I can see the drive if I enter the BIOS
[08:50] <hateball> tyoc213: and if you run "sudo blkid" while live-booted, does it show?
[08:51] <hateball> it should show as /dev/nvme*something
[08:51] <meandrain> When I try to restart my ubuntu nfs booted machine I got stuck on this:  "A stop job is running for Raise network interfaces (25s/1min 30s). Any idea how to disable that so I could reboot the machine ?
[08:52] <tyoc213> hateball, I see only 2 drivers with blkid: loop0 and sea1 which is the USB
[08:52] <tyoc213> sda1**
[08:53] <tyoc213> the nvme is completely new, so no format on it
[08:53] <meandrain> This is my network config file: https://dpaste.de/1gua
[08:53] <zozo> hey guys, could someone point me to some readings about installing kernel modules if I have UEFI? I can't build one but can't fully understand what's going on
[08:53] <hateball> tyoc213: also I think you need to use EFI and not legacy mode, in case you have that enabled in your BIOS
[08:53] <tyoc213> will check that
[08:56] <jmft2> Hello. When a system is shut down, what sort of signal do the remaining processes receive?
[08:59] <apb1963> Is there a recommended ftp daemon for ubuntu 16/18.04?
[09:03] <apb1963> jmft2, why?
[09:03] <jmft2> apb1963: I want my program to close gracefully (save state, etc.) before finishing
[09:04] <apb1963> jmft2, Probably SIGTERM followed by KILL a bit later if that doesn't work.
[09:04] <bugzbunny> Correct
[09:04] <bugzbunny> Is the program running as a Daemon?
[09:05] <bugzbunny> You can add parameters to a systemd-service script to give the daemon more time to shutdown
[09:09] <apb1963> meandrain, did you copy/paste that error message or type it by hand?
[09:10] <meandrain> it seems the error is because I've commented ipv6 section for localhost from /etc/hosts
[09:10] <meandrain> I've type it by hand
[09:10] <apb1963> meandrain, :D
[09:11] <meandrain> that was a habit coming from FreeBSD to comment everything I don't need, it seems in Ubuntu it breaks things
[09:17] <tyoc213> hateball, probably I Need to update my bios
[09:17] <tyoc213> well, will try tomorrow
[09:21] <hateball> tyoc213: Yeah it's probably good to start there
[09:23] <kes0> What DE is most stable on ubuntu?
[09:26] <peet1> ldm？
[09:26] <peet1> sorry
[09:30] <azizLIGHT> which of these do you know of: shotcut kdenlive pitivi avidemux blender cinelerra LiVES openshot flowblade vivia ? im trying to see which one has more community/DOCUMENTATION
[09:56] <trincyolo> hi all, I've just installed ubuntu lts on a friend's computer and the grub boot menu doesn't show. It just boots straight into windows.
[09:58] <pragomer> i have a logitech bluetooth mouse and the movings to lag a lot when using it under ubuntu 17.10
[09:59] <MonkeyDust_> trincyolo  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Troubleshooting
[09:59] <meandrain> I still have trouble rebooting my ubuntu machine: stuck on "a stop job is running for raise network interfaces".   Any hints what to check ?
[09:59] <pragomer> any hints for this problem? the lagging is sometimes more, sometimes less but never real quick responding
[10:01] <trincyolo> MonkeyDust_: thanks, but this assumes that I have access to the grub menu which I don't
[10:01] <meandrain> Here is some debug info, but I don't know what to look for: https://dpaste.de/YH9b
[10:02] <Emmarof> my root partition is full, how do i increase it?
[10:03] <meandrain> there's more: https://dpaste.de/d4Pu
[10:03] <Frox> Hello everyone, I decited to move from windows to linux but I have alsmost 0 knowledge of linux so how and from where do I start learning using them?
[10:04] <Emmarof> Frox: just install and use
[10:05] <ducasse> !manual | Frox
[10:05] <Frox> Emmarof: I do but I don't have the feel that I am realy learning this way
[10:05] <Frox> I am copy pasting commands from the internet
[10:05] <Emmarof> oh ok
[10:06] <Frox> And this is not a good solution
[10:06] <guiverc> Frox, that question may not be a support issue, maybe #ubuntu-discuss is better  (others agree?)
[10:06] <Emmarof> Frox: https://nostarch.com/tlcl
[10:06] <Frox> oh sorry then my bad
[10:06] <pragomer> in debian I could switch den mode of my fnkeys of my macbook by adding this line to /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf:
[10:06] <pragomer> options hid_apple fnmode=2
[10:06] <pragomer> in ubuntu 17.10 this has no effecz.
[10:06] <pragomer> what do to?
[10:07] <guiverc> Frox, don't apologize - we'd rather you ask here if you're not sure where to ask!
[10:07] <Emmarof> guiverc: do you have an idea how i can increase the size of my home partition?
[10:07] <guiverc> Emmarof, I
[10:07] <Emmarof> you do?
[10:08] <guiverc> sorry - I'd suggest booting a live media (eg. install media) and using gparted to grow it... you can't use gparted to stretch a running/used partition without a lot of work/hassle... hence using live/install media
[10:08] <MonkeyDust_> trincyolo  hit the enter key during boot, to get the grub menu (or is it the escape key, i forget)
[10:08] <trincyolo> MonkeyDust_: I've tried that
[10:08] <Emmarof> guiverc: can you suggest any tutorial on that?
[10:09] <trincyolo> MonkeyDust_: maybe I have similar issue as this person :
[10:09] <trincyolo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/870022/how-to-get-grub-boot-option/870074
[10:09] <guiverc> Emmarof, sorry I'd have to look which would take time.. (more time that i currently have)
[10:10] <lupulo> Emmarof, apt-get install info , after the tutorial info grub
[10:15] <trincyolo> MonkeyDust_: still no luck. I've enabled the f12 menu but still no help
[10:20] <ghost2911> hi. does ubuntu have something like arch-audit tool for vulnerabilities scan of packages ? thx
[10:32] <Dbugger> I have a weird issue with "Sound recorder", that it gives me zero output. I press "Record" and nothing happens. I press "Preferences" and nothing pops out. The only thing that seems to talk to me is the "About" window
[10:33] <renn0xtk9> I got Kubuntu with Qt 5.9.3 in the path, how to install source of Qt5.5.1 (to compile somne code) without that it create a mess ?
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> how come im asked to install kernel 4.4 and xenial stuff when i want to install snapd
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> is snapd not supporteD?
[10:57] <meandrain> ok, so it is crazy, I've solved my stuck on reboot problem by changing /etc/network/interfaces from "dhcp" to "manual", and yes there is such option besides "dhcp" and "static"
[11:13] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: afaik snapd requires kernel patches that were first included in 16.04, which is probably why you need that kernel
[11:14] <azizLIGHT> oh
[11:14] <azizLIGHT> i will wait for 18.04
[11:15] <thrillhouse> Totally noob question- but what's the command you can run to see what Kernel system calls are being run behind like, something print "hi"- and it shows you what goes on in the background to produce the 'print "hi"'
[11:17] <ducasse> thrillhouse: do you mean strace?
[11:17] <thrillhouse> ah that's the one, thankyou
[11:17] <thrillhouse> I've been googling for a while and I'm sure trying in everything wrong
[11:29] <cart_man> Hi ..does RC.Local run after all the systemd initialized all its services?
[11:31] <TJ-> cart_man: it's run by the rc-local.service
[11:32] <TJ-> cart_man: the unit file only says "After=network.target"
[11:36] <Sven_vB> I'd like to prevent my notebook from accidentially communicating with one of the devices on my LAN, but not block it by IP because in other LANs that same IP is unrelated. can I block it by MAC?
[11:37] <Ool> Sven_vB: detect you are in this lan and active the FW, and the opposite
[11:40] <Sven_vB> Ool, I looked into ufw a bit but their "MAC"s look more like an IPv6 address in https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/firewall.html
[11:41] <TJ-> Sven_vB: use ebtables to write MAC rules, not iptables/ufw
[11:41] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks! I'll read about that.
[11:47] <vali> hi guys
[11:47] <vali> anyone here using sssd + ad + sudo ?
[11:47] <Sven_vB> what's ad?
[11:48] <Sven_vB> ah, active directory
[11:50] <vali> :))
[11:50] <vali> yes.
[11:50] <vali> I guess you're not on the AD wagon
[11:52] <Sven_vB> nope. maybe you'll find someone later.
[11:57] <jack_c>  #MHVLUG
[12:05] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[12:07] <yellabs-r2> i was so creative to use the shred command, its cycling in 3/6 and now at 50 % , should i wait untill its finished ?
[12:08] <yellabs-r2> ah i think so, i now see its also showing the gigabytes its at..
[12:18] <Sven_vB> so before I try and extend my new shiny ebtables to DHCP as well… is there an easier way to collect and review DHCP offers, then decide which of them to accept?
[12:20] <anand_> #dgplug
[12:36] <yellabs-r2> okee , take care and have a nice day !
[12:43] <Murii> Is there a way of making a .bat file on ubuntu and test it?
[12:45] <Ool> Murii: a .bat file is a text file, isn't it ?
[12:46] <Ool> so with a text editor you can write it
[12:46] <Murii> .bat is batch from windows
[12:46] <Murii> and I want to write and test it
[12:46] <Ool> so beter to have windows to test it
[12:46] <cfhowlett> you can write the file in linux but must test it in windows.
[12:46] <Ool> or perhaps with wine
[12:47] <dijuremo> Can also run virtualbox and a windows vm to test the batch file
[12:48] <Murii> I'll try with wine
[12:50] <Murii> Doesn't work with wine
[12:51] <soulisson> Seems easier to do it in a VM. You would need to have cmd working with wine ...
[12:52] <Murii> apparently there's: wine cmd
[12:52] <Murii> which lets you use it
[12:54] <soulisson> ok
[13:02] <Jose81> hola
[13:02] <Jose81> help
[13:02] <Javabean> !patience
[13:03] <kostkon> !details | Jose81
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> !es | Jose81
[13:24] <skweek> I've got Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
[13:24] <skweek>   [tcl] grab failed: window not viewable.
[13:24] <skweek>  comming up
[13:24] <skweek> i'm not sure but I think something happened to tcl
[13:24] <airking> Hello! My hosting provider had to reboot my VPS due to a hardware issue, and upon reboot, my SSH keys don't seem to work.  How can I validate the server keys?
[13:24] <skweek> is anyone around?
[13:25] <airking> I have access to a root console
[13:26] <skweek> I should get a window open
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> airking, you need to contact your VPS provider for support
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> skweek, have patience, also, more information is needed. Please, on one line, tell us what you were doing prior to the error showing up, where you are seeing the error, and as much information about what you trying to do.
[13:35] <airking> pragmaticenigma: why?  It's an ubuntu system, it's online.  I'm not having a VPS hosting issue, I'm having an Ubuntu issue. That should be wholly inside the scope of this channel
[13:35] <airking> "This channel supports Ubuntu"
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> airking, your VPS provider restarted your instance, you should contact them to make sure they didn't make any other changes
[13:36] <airking> pragmaticenigma: they did not.
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> airking, have you verified with them?
[13:37] <airking> pragmaticenigma: Well they sent me an email saying "No other changes were made"
[13:37] <zanshin> airking: Sounds like you've got an ssh key problem. Have you verified that the permissions didn't get changed? What error are you getting, beyond, "my SSH keys don't seem to work"?
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> airking, so your taking them at their word that after they performed system maintenance that something during their maintenance didn't affect your instance? I'd be on their support line right now asking why if nothing else changed you can't login
[13:39] <airking> pragmaticenigma: I've been with this hosting provider over 5 years.  Theyve been excellent at helping me with any issues, and I've been through countless system maintenances where the system was rebooted with no issues.  At this point I trust that they did not touch anything else
[13:39] <airking> zanshin: Unfortunately I can no longer replicate the error.  Once I logged in via the web console, the keys started working.
[13:40] <airking> zanshin: I don't remember the exact text but it was an "invalid key" error
[13:40] <airking> is there a setting somewhere that determines whether ssh key login is allowed immediately after bootup?
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> no, ssh keys are always available when registered
[13:42] <zanshin> airking: What happens if you disconnect and sign in again?
[13:42] <TJ-> airking: from the client have you done "ssh -vvv user@host" to get debug info
[13:42] <airking> zanshin: zanshin it just works now
[13:43] <TJ-> airking: is the user's home directory encrypted?
[13:43] <skweek>  I'm using a command line application, R. Normally I'd run install.packages('package') and get a window open. Today I'm installing a package and it says   [tcl] grab failed: window not viewable. and no window opens up. I'm googling around and not finding anything related to the error message. https://pastebin.com/raw/MpgwARDT
[13:44] <airking> TJ-: I don't think so.  I just ran your -vvv command, I'm not sure what to make of this.  Is this log that gets printed from a single auth attempt?
[13:45] <zanshin> airking: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dig through syslog and or contact the VPS provider and ask them if some transient event happened about the time you got your "invalid key" error.
[13:45] <TJ-> airking: "-vvv' shows the progress of the key negotiation and authentication... if the problem is no longer happening then you'll not get anything useful, obviously. Might be worth rebooting it again and testing then
[13:45] <fritzroy15> hello, I'm running ubuntu 14.04lts and trying to figure out how to get a newer version of jq since the version offered from the repositories seems to be 1.3.1 which is really old:
[13:45] <fritzroy15> hello, I'm running ubuntu 14.04lts and trying to figure out how to get a newer version of jq since the version offered from the repositories seems to be 1.3.1 which is really old:  https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jq
[13:46] <fritzroy15> do i need to install a different repository?
[13:46] <airking> TJ-: How can I dump the -vvv output to a file?  runnign the command with >> file did not work
[13:46] <airking> is it over stderr?
[13:46] <zanshin> fritzroy15: You could build it from source: https://github.com/stedolan/jq/wiki/Installation
[13:46] <TJ-> airking: /usually/ the issue after boot when there is encrypted home directory is the user's SSH keys aren't accessible (because they're in the encrypted area) but once the user has logged in directly from console (thus decrypting the home dir) the keys are available to SSH
[13:47] <airking> hmmm
[13:47] <airking> that could very well be the case
[13:47] <airking> I'll look into that
[13:47] <airking> thanks
[13:47] <fritzroy15> zanshin isn't there an easier way?
[13:47] <TJ-> airking: to capture the log I'd do something like "ssh -vvv user@host |& tee /tmp/ssh.log"
[13:49] <zanshin> fritzroy15: There are some newer releases on the Github page for jq.
[13:50] <leftyfb> fritzroy15: is there a particular reason you need a newer version of jq?
[13:50] <Orbitor> fritzroy15: try "sudo apt-get install jq/trusty-backports"
[13:51] <TJ-> fritzroy15: have you checked if there's a version you can work with in 16.04, or 18.04, and if so, upgrade to the newer Ubuntu release?
[13:53] <fritzroy15> leftyfb it's for some new functionality they added in post version 1.4
[13:53] <fritzroy15> TJ- there is but this is a work pc so i'm not *too* inclined to start diddling around with the production development environment that I set up over 3 years ^_^
[13:54] <ghoti> How do I tell GNU Screen to record its scrollback buffer to a file, automatically? I know I can use the "hardcopy" command, but is there a way to automatically run that before a screen is closed, non-interactively?
[13:55] <skweek>  I'm using a command line application, R. Normally I'd run install.packages('package') and get a window open. Today I'm installing a package and it says   [tcl] grab failed: window not viewable. and no window opens up. I'm googling around and not finding anything related to the error message. https://www.hastebin.com/sutaquyeri.js
[13:55] <leftyfb> ghoti: man screen
[13:55] <Orbitor> fritzroy15: looks like the version in backports is still too old, build from source
[13:56] <TJ-> fritzroy15: Could you work from within an LXD container that is running 16.04 or 18.04 ?
[13:56] <leftyfb> TJ-: lxd works on 14.04? Or just lxc?
[13:57] <TJ-> !info lxd trusty-backports
[13:57] <ghoti> leftyfb: how is that supposed to be helpful?
[13:58] <leftyfb> ghoti: Because about halfway down it tells you exactly what you're looking for.
[13:58] <ghoti> leftyfb: can you pass along a keyword? Obviously I'm not seeing it.
[13:58] <leftyfb> ghoti: logging
[14:00] <Orbitor> skweek: you might have more luck in the #R channel
[14:01] <skweek> :-)
[14:03] <Cypher100[m]> Hi
[14:04] <LampGlow> hey there, can anybody answer a question about building vim from src?
[14:04] <LampGlow> I have a really wierd problem here
[14:05] <rexan_> hola
[14:09] <LampGlow> i build it with VIMRUNTIME set to /usr/local/share/vim80, but after some time, even without reboot, the file which seem to be there at the first place, syntax.vim disappears
[14:13] <pragmaticenigma> LampGlow, unfortunately we cannot support applications that haven't been provided through the package management/repository
[14:14] <pragmaticenigma> LampGlow, you may find better support with /join #vim (you will need to register your nick if you haven't, to chat there)
[14:16] <fritzroy15> managed to build jq from source, thanks for the help :)
[14:16] <LampGlow> pragmaticenigma: thanks!
[14:18] <zanshin> fritzroy15: Excellent
[14:21] <zozo> any UEFI masters here?
[14:21] <SwedeMike> !ask | zozo
[14:23] <zozo> well.. I know what is patience exactly, lol. It's been for 7 hours already, haha
[14:24] <zozo> I have problems with installing kernel modules, as far as I understand because of safe boot (uefi), and I need some help with that
[14:26] <TJ-> zozo: The only reason I can imagine kernel modules would have problems is if they're out-of-tree built and not signed and the system is booting in Secure Boot mode
[14:32] <Mathis> Hi
[14:32] <zozo> TJ- as far as I understand it is possible to sign cusom modules, because I've isntalled couple packages not from ubuntu repositories
[14:33] <zozo> but I'm only getting errors and can not load modules
[14:35] <TJ-> zozo: it is possible to sign modules /if/ you've installed your own MOK (Machine Owner's Key) in the UEFI's key store.
[14:36] <TJ-> zozo: modules from 3rd party repositories will not be signed, therefore they will not load (kernel will refuse)
[14:37] <zozo> ok, thanks
[14:39] <sky> hey there, sorta new to ubuntu. have to print to a network printer, is cups-client what I need to install for that?
[14:40] <Mathis> i guess so
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> sky, In system settings you should see a control applet for printing. that is were you will setup your printer
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu continues to "find" a printer on my network that I have already installed manually. How do I disable auto-searching for printers? (The printer it sets up does not work, and I cannot remove it with delete.)
[14:52] <firezep> Hi there guys, new to linux and trying to learn how to get znc installed on my new machine. Can some1 give me a hand? Kinda having trouble.
[14:53] <leftyfb> firezep: sudo apt install znc
[14:54] <theGoat> so i am having an issue with an ssh config file.  when i configure the file and point to my identity file, it always prompts for the password, but if i specify the file with ssh -i from the command line, it works
[14:55] <firezep> leftyfb: kinda did all that already
[14:55] <leftyfb> firezep: then it's installed
[14:55] <firezep> just when I get to /usr/local/bin/znc --makeconf it doest create the file :(
[14:55] <leftyfb> firezep: that wasn't installed using the package manager
[14:56] <firezep> no i usedwget http://znc.in/releases/znc-latest.tar.gz
[14:56] <leftyfb> firezep: sudo apt install znc
[14:56] <leftyfb> that will install it for you
[14:56] <leftyfb> firezep: For help compiling it or configuring it, please read the documentation: https://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
[14:57] <firezep> but how will I then open ports for the webpanel :(
[14:57] <leftyfb> firezep: what does that have to do with installing znc?
[14:57] <leftyfb> firezep: that sounds like a firewall issue to me
[14:58] <firezep> well installing it wasnt hard
[14:58] <firezep> I just kinda dont get it how I get it to make the configuration file
[15:00] <firezep> like Im really new to linux been doing it for like 2 days so far tbh
[15:00] <kes0> firezep: If u type znc --help maybe it sa what to type to make config
[15:01] <firezep> just get bash: znc: command not found :S
[15:02] <kes0> Hm ok
[15:03] <firezep> I dont know if I'm allowed to post images but here it goes :S -> https://i.imgur.com/PcuADaU.png
[15:03] <firezep> again really sorry I'm such a pleb :(
[15:04] <firezep> for sure im doing something really stupid
[15:04] <peyton> It doesn't look like znc is a command
[15:04] <peyton> is it installed?
[15:05] <firezep> I did do -> sudo make; sudo make install
[15:05] <kes0> Looks like they are just exracted
[15:05] <kes0> Ah
[15:06] <kes0> And insatall start run?
[15:07] <asyterirc24080> hi
[15:07] <mujahid> Hi
[15:07] <firezep> hello
[15:08] <firezep> kes0: I guess yes
[15:08] <firezep> I was using this guideline -> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[15:08] <mujahid> what is this :v?
[15:09] <firezep> just a ramdom pleb trying to learn da wae :(
[15:09] <mujahid> ho oke oke
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> theGoat, It sounds like you have multiple identity files setup for your user. That's why you have to manually select one.
[15:10] <nicomachus> mujahid: this is a channel for support for the Ubuntu operating system.
[15:10] <mujahid> anyone play CTF competition ?
[15:10] <mujahid> Oke nico
[15:10] <nicomachus> mujahid: this channel is ONLY for support for Ubuntu.
[15:10] <theGoat> actually ir's a clean vm for testing, first one in.
[15:10] <firezep> nicomachus: sry if Im not supposed to ask this stuff here :(
[15:11] <leftyfb> firezep: sudo apt install znc
[15:11] <leftyfb> don't know how many times I need to tell you this
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> theGoat, is the identity file your using in ~/.ssh/ ?
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> firezep, We cannot support compiling applications from source. If you install ZNC from the package manager most of your issues will be resolved. We can then help you with firewall configuration
[15:12] <theGoat> yeah...just figured it out.  just uaing ip addresses instead of hostnames in config file
[15:12] <firezep> leftyfb: let me try it now
[15:12] <firezep> pragmaticenigma: sure thing sorry then I'mma gonna keep on trying
[15:13] <nacc> fundies: i'm around now, fyi
[15:13] <kes0> firezep: If u remove the numbers and type /usr/local/bin/znc --makeconf?
[15:14] <firezep> still get -bash: /usr/local/bin/znc: No such file or directory
[15:14] <firezep> but the dir is there :(
[15:14] <kes0> Okey
[15:15] <kes0> Strange
[15:15] <leftyfb> firezep: znc --help
[15:15] <leftyfb> firezep: go back into the directory to used to compile znc. Then do sudo make uninstall
[15:16] <firezep> okay let me try that leftyfb thanks
[15:17] <firezep> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.
[15:18] <mustmodify> I'm seeing old DNS entries on ubuntu... I made a change yesterday with a 10 minute TTL so it should have updated long ago. Thoughts?
[15:18] <leftyfb> ok, can someone help firezep undo his compiled znc in /usr/local and just use the one installed from apt? Kinda busy at the moment
[15:18] <mustmodify> d'Oh!
[15:19] <mustmodify> I updated www but not @
[15:19] <firezep> its okay leftyfb thank for real
[15:19] <mustmodify> Your thought should be, "You're dumb."
[15:19] <firezep> well I am dumb :(
[15:20] <firezep> oh wait I think I got it :P
[15:20] <paul____> Hey guys, after upgrading to 17.10 I get many duplicate icons when using virtualbox. Here I have just a wingle virtual machine running, but these have spawned. I cant exactly tell when new ones pop up but it has happened many times: https://pasteboard.co/HdR0vWK.png
[15:20] <paul____> single*
[15:20] <kes0> mustmodify: Comon
[15:20] <firezep> yay got it :D
[15:20] <firezep> \o/
[15:20] <firezep> https://i.imgur.com/Fo92cDc.png
[15:21] <firezep> thanks guys you the best :D
[15:21] <paul____> Is there some way to force all of these to one place (master icon) on the bar, like it was in 16.04?
[15:21]  * firezep highfives leftyfb and kes0 
[15:21] <kes0> firezep: Nice =)
[15:22] <firezep> now making the cnfg
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> paul____, applications are grouped by their window title
[15:22] <firezep> can I hang in her with you guys when I get my znc up and running? :D
[15:22] <firezep> here*
[15:24] <kes0> firezep: Yes
[15:24] <firezep> \o/
[15:25] <paul____> ‎pragmaticenigma‎: so this implies the problem is with virtualbox, that when it was installed on 16, there was one window title, but now it uses many?
[15:25] <paul____> I dont have  16 installed now to verify that
[15:26] <paul____> Is there any way I can tell gmone to group certain window titles manually?
[15:26] <paul____> gnome*
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> paul____, 16 used Unity and, 17.10 uses gnome desktop. They may have different ways of grouping the icons. Unity appears to use the process name which would be VirutalBox, Gnome appears to be using the Window title, which for Virtual box would be the machine name
[15:31] <Delta706> what software can I use to connect to a vpn account and send traffic via it?
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> Delta706, NetworkManager supports several VPN protocols by itself. It can also manage turning the VPNs on and off
[15:34] <Delta706> pragmaticenigma: why do you say "by itself"?
[15:36] <asyterirc25715> mozhno li ustanovit' windows i ubuntu odnovremenno?
[15:36] <gg_> i buggered up my audio , can someone help?
[15:36] <asyterirc25715> ?
[15:36] <rud0lf> i read "audio" as "radio" and was like "huh?"
[15:37] <gg_> nah, sound card
[15:37] <Delta706> pragmaticenigma: are you referring to Network in Settings?
[15:37] <asyterirc25715> au garage
[15:37] <gg_> settings does not recognize input or output
[15:37] <paul____> ‎pragmaticenigma: I do understand your point. Looking to fix the issue, though, I don't think I would have much ability to change how VirtualBox names its windows, so I am looking for some other way to tell gnome to group specific windows manually. Furthermore, as you can see in my image, There are separate icons for the manager, the virtual machine, and these 'other windows' that keep spawning. Every one of the other windows is
[15:37] <paul____> called the same thing "Virtualbox manager", and clicking them just redirect to the main manager window. I think this is some bug or something, but at least if I could group it I would be able to stop them from being so annoying.
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> paul____, the issue isn't in Virutal Box though... I think 17.10 uses a Ubuntu varient of dash-to-dock... I'm tring to find some documentation
[15:38] <cYmen> Can somebody explain these versions to me libstdc++6-4.7-dev ...what is 6 and what is 4.7?
[15:40] <nacc> cYmen: 6 is the ABI version and 4.7 is the package version, i think
[15:40] <nacc> cYmen: what version of ubuntu do you see that package on?
[15:40] <nacc> cYmen: oh yes, 4.7 is the package base version (upstream version)
[15:42] <Ool> lib6 + gcc 4.7 ?
[15:42] <Ool> libc6 *
[15:42] <mahakal> Hey guys ,i am on 17.10 and while build qt project i am getting the strange error  "fatal error: QMainWindow: No such file or directory".I am regarding it strange because i have installed the required library with official package manager
[15:43] <mahakal> please suggest something
[15:43] <nacc> Ool: yes, i think so
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> paul____, The dash-to-dock has an open issue on exactly your request. They are still in discussion about it. https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/332
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> paul____, an option is you could choose to install a different dock. I'm not familiar on how to replace the default dock, but I'm confident we can help with that
[15:49] <paul____> ‎pragmaticenigma: thank you for looking into it, I am going over the options now
[15:58] <mojtaba> I have installed phantomjs and added a link of the executable to /usr/local/bin, but still I can not run it by typing its name. Any idea?
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> mojtaba, is it set to executable in /usr/local/bin?
[15:59] <nacc> mojtaba: if you install phantomjs from ubuntu, why would you put anything in /usr/local/bin?
[15:59] <mojtaba> pragmaticenigma: I can run it when I am in its own directory.
[15:59] <nacc> mojtaba: it installs to /usr/bin
[15:59] <mojtaba> nacc: I installed it using nvm, to get the latest.
[16:00] <nacc> mojtaba: ok, so this is really a question for upstream? is /usr/local/bin in your PATH?
[16:00] <mojtaba> nacc: Yes, it is in my path.
[16:02] <nacc> mojtaba: `which phantomjs` ?
[16:02] <mojtaba> nacc: It is located here: /home/mojtaba/node_modules/phantomjs-prebuilt/lib/phantom/bin
[16:02] <mojtaba> I ran sudo ln -s phantomjs /usr/local/bin
[16:03] <cYmen> nacc: this is on ubuntu 16.04
[16:03] <mojtaba> From that directory
[16:04] <nacc> mojtaba: ok, and which still reports the first path? is it executable as pragmaticenigma said?
[16:04] <mojtaba> nacc: It is executable.
[16:05] <nacc> mojtaba: pastebin `ls -ahl /usr/local/bin | grep phantomjs` ?
[16:05] <mojtaba> nacc: In /usr/local/bin: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 27 11:55 phantomjs -> phantomjs
[16:05] <nacc> cYmen: ah ok
[16:05] <nacc> mojtaba: wait, you ran it in /usr/local/bin ?
[16:05] <nacc> mojtaba: that's a complete mistake
[16:06] <mojtaba> nacc: I ran it from here: home/mojtaba/node_modules/phantomjs-prebuilt/lib/phantom/bin
[16:06] <cYmen> nacc: so the second number is the actual version?
[16:06] <mojtaba> then executed sudo ln -s phantomjs /usr/local/bin
[16:06] <nacc> mojtaba: then your `ls -ahl` output is wrong?
[16:06] <nacc> mojtaba: because that's not what it says your symlink is pointed to
[16:06] <mojtaba> nacc: what do you mean?
[16:07] <ioria> mojtaba, tried with absolute path ?
[16:07] <mojtaba> nacc: may be because I used relative path instead of full path when running ln?
[16:07] <nacc> mojtaba: if i read your typing above correclty, you've made /usr/local/bin/phantomjs point to /usr/local/bin/phantomjs
[16:07] <cYmen> libstdc++6-5-dbg/xenial-updates,xenial-security 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9 amd64 <- what's the last version number? the 5.4.0... ?
[16:08] <nacc> cYmen: 5.4.0 is the upstream version, -6 means there have been 6 debian updates to that upstream, ubuntu indicates there is an ubuntu change relative to 5.4.0-6; ~16.04 implies it's an SRU to xenial, .9 implies it is the 9th change to the ubuntu xenial version
[16:08] <mojtaba> nacc: ioria: Thanks. It is working now
[16:09] <ioria> mojtaba, ok
[16:09] <cYmen> nacc: thanks!
[16:09] <nacc> mojtaba: ok
[16:09] <nacc> cYmen: yw
[16:09] <mojtaba> cYmen: Thanks
[16:09] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> how i can install tor from zip i downloaded ?? like copy in opt but not it says untrusted anyone here for help pls???
[16:10] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> i really new while installing something from zip file and copy in opt folder and than make symlinks any help pls
[16:11] <nacc> jhksjdfhskjdfhks: there should be instructions either in the zip you downloaded or the website you got it from
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> jhksjdfhskjdfhks, part of using software in linux is reading the documentation... Tor is mean to run from it's unzipped folder from within your user directory
[16:12] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> nop it's just basic package means if simply extract and click on starttor it just work perfectly but if i try to install than i dont know process!!!
[16:12] <L00P3X> GoodEvening :) I'm shure to have a dns issue as i moved to openDNS some time ago but now realize to can not ping sites I can reach by ip too over the browser.. I would know if I could somehow reset the dns on this computer as i want start to run comands as "sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start" found over the internet
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> jhksjdfhskjdfhks, Also, beacuse Tor is not included in Ubuntu's official software repositories, we cannot support it here
[16:13] <ramsub07> Hi how do i give existing user sudo previleges from terminal?
[16:13] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> oh man i'm just asking for installation simple package in ubuntu pls
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> jhksjdfhskjdfhks, See our !guidelines... we can only support applications that are provided from official Ubuntu packages
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> !guidelines
[16:16] <cYmen> jhksjdfhskjdfhks: do you want tor or the torbrowser? because torbrowser-launcher is in apt...
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> cYmen, that version is out of date
[16:16] <cYmen> true, but there are simple instruction for updating at https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher at the bottom
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> cYmen, which leads back to unsupported territory
[16:18] <pragmaticenigma> cYmen, 3rd party repositories are not supported here, only the official ubuntu maintained repos are
[16:18] <L00P3X> jhksjdfhskjdfhks, i'm using tor too and there is no need to install it as you can read on tor's page.
[16:19] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> L00P3X, i know, but i think it's good if i add this portable package in syslinks
[16:20] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> cYmen, thanks installed, thank man :)
[16:21] <L00P3X> jhksjdfhskjdfhks, get the guardian progect repo and install tor from there.. this is all I would recomand for tor
[16:22] <pragmaticenigma> L00P3X, when recommending 3rd party PPAs, make sure to indicate that it's "at your own risk, won't be supported here"
[16:23] <L00P3X> It's true pragmaticenigmam i'm sorry
[16:23] <jhksjdfhskjdfhks> L00P3X,  thanks man but cYmen helped! thanks anyway :)
[16:23] <bugzbunny> pragmaticenigma: Supported by Ubuntu staff?
[16:23] <nacc> bugzbunny: s/staff/volunteers/
[16:23] <bugzbunny> nacc: Why wouldn't I support it?
[16:23] <nacc> bugzbunny: becuase it's not in ubuntu
[16:23] <nacc> bugzbunny: this isthe ubuntu support channel.
[16:24] <bugzbunny> Yeah, I am quite aware, but aren't helping people use Ubuntu?
[16:24] <sky> so I installed cups-client. I run lpinfo -m and get bad fd
[16:24] <nacc> bugzbunny: read the guidelines for what is and is not ontopic, i think
[16:24] <bugzbunny> I'll take a look
[16:25] <L00P3X> maybe someone would help me out resolv dns issue? I can't ping sites I can reach by ip over the browser
[16:25] <L00P3X> would know if somehow on ubuntu I can reset the defould dns presets.. somehow
[16:28] <bugzbunny> Logicwax: I don't quite understand, you can ping IPs?
[16:28] <bugzbunny> Sorry
[16:28] <velizarx> Do you think problem in a local cache?
[16:28] <bugzbunny> L00P3X: ^^
[16:29] <L00P3X> bugzbunny, i can't ping, for example, duckduckgo.com at 34.243.160.29, but can access the website on name and ip
[16:30] <bugzbunny> L00P3X: So you can ping IPs but can't resolve DNS names to ip.. cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebininit
[16:31] <L00P3X> i moved to open dns some time ago on local machine, not on the router. but now i noticed some issues like this
[16:31] <TJ-> L00P3X: which ubuntu release is it?
[16:32] <L00P3X> 17,10.. on resolv.conf i got a nameserver 127.0.0.53 .. this is all i have there. but .53 ? is it right?
[16:33] <TJ-> L00P3X: that is fine... the reason ping doesn't get a response is Amazon is blocking the ICMP echo requests
[16:33] <TJ-> L00P3X: so DNS is fine I'd think, but some services are blocked by firewalls along the way
[16:33] <L00P3X> strange beacouse i could ever ping duckduckgo.com.. only now i can't
[16:33] <TJ-> L00P3X: 127.0.0.53 is the localhost address the systemd-resolved process listens on
[16:34] <L00P3X> I know about the localhos 127.0.0.1 .. this was new to me thank you :)
[16:34] <TJ-> L00P3X: same here, with a different IP for them: PING duckduckgo.com (34.243.144.154) 56(84) bytes of data .... nothing
[16:35] <velizarx> Fou debug this problem you can install the mtr package and try run mtr -t duckduckgo.com
[16:35] <bugzbunny> Same here
[16:35] <bugzbunny> No response from PING
[16:35] <TJ-> L00P3X: previsously Network Manager ran a private instance of dnsmasq for resolving that bound to 127.0.1.1 ... systemd-resolved uses 127.0.0.53 to avoid treading on any other local resolvers
[16:36] <TJ-> L00P3X: despite the RFCs many networks do block ICMP to prevent some types of denial-of-service attacks
[16:36] <rud0lf> is it safe to have ssh set to either .pem keyfile or one-time 6 digit password?
[16:36] <rud0lf> i'm especially worried about one-time 6 digit password safety
[16:37] <bugzbunny> rud0lf: If you going to put SSH on the interwebs, I would avoid using passwords
[16:37] <TJ-> rud0lf: 6 digits? is that digits as in 0-9 ?
[16:37] <L00P3X> TJ- this now hears pretty logical at all.. only strange I could ping some time ago and tought this was becaouse the dns change to opendns
[16:37] <rud0lf> TJ-: yes
[16:38] <rud0lf> that's google authenticator pam module
[16:38] <TJ-> rud0lf: I guess using OTP that's reasonably OK, not sure how to calculate the effective entropy though!
[16:38] <rud0lf> is OTP sent through an encrypted channel?
[16:38] <sky> should cups-client need to be started with systemd or something?
[16:39] <sky> must be some reason I get bad fd error on lpstat
[16:39] <TJ-> rud0lf: if it's time-based OTP then pam_otp won't be making a network connection
[16:43] <TJ-> !info libpam-otpw
[16:43] <L00P3X> but this 127.0.0.53 story reminds me how i faild to add a newuser to the sudo group looking as guest.. whit no apps and files at all in it.. a new new user where to start over again for separating working needs, one user for working whit only that apps (offline), one for internet, oans so one
[16:44] <rud0lf> i manage to set it for either .pem key or password+OTP
[16:44] <rud0lf> the instructions were not clear
[16:50] <sky> anyone used cups / lpamdin?
[16:54] <leftyfb> sky: that is not your question
[16:55] <sky> leftyfb: right.
[16:56] <sky> seems that there is some sort of cups process or something that needs to run?
[16:57] <sky> seems like it got systemd'd and i have not much experience.
[16:57] <sky> kinda thought I could install cups-client then add my pritner and be done
[16:58] <leftyfb> sky: a typical ubuntu desktop install will take care of all that for you
[16:58] <sky> this is a linode
[16:58] <sky> so I'm using the cli.
[16:59] <sky> seems like a socketish issue
[16:59] <sky> shrug
[17:00] <sky> i looked through systemctl and didnt see any cups-client sorta stuff
[17:01] <miguel> hi
[17:01] <Guest97274> im in spain
[17:01] <ioria> sky, https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2015/01/lpadmin-examples/
[17:02] <Guest97274> hi
[17:02] <sky> ioria: all the lp commands fail
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> Guest97274, Hello! Do you have a support question about Ubuntu?
[17:03] <Guest97274> no
[17:03] <ioria> sky, how it fails ? what error ?
[17:03] <Guest97274> im in classroom
[17:03] <akk> I get the impression nobody tests CUPS with anything besides the default desktop.
[17:03] <Pomidora> lol
[17:03] <Guest97274> Asturias spain greetings
[17:03] <akk> I had a terrible time adding printers using the CUPS web UI on a machine running openbox.
[17:03] <pragmaticenigma> Guest97274, If you would like to chat, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:03] <sky> ioria: I installed cups-client. then, I tried to list my drivers with lpinfo -m, lpinfo fails
[17:03] <akk> (maybe it would have been just as bad in gnome)
[17:04] <Guest97274> goodbye
[17:04] <sky> bad file descrptor is the error. if I try cupsctl to configure it, I get unable to connect to server, bad file descrptor
[17:05] <TJ-> sky: where is the printer located?
[17:05] <sky> TJ-: its a network printer
[17:05] <hmw2> Somone I don't know sent me a larger porn .MOV file via e-mail. I want to check for malicious intent and tried mplayer -identify and mediainfo. I am uncertain, if they show me everything, my player could be made to do, like opening URLs. Please advise me, how to inspect this file properly, 18M isn't fun to read in the hex editor.
[17:06] <ioria> sky, Port 631 is open ?
[17:06] <sky> ioria: Im not trying to run a print server...
[17:06] <sky> that would be for cups server
[17:06] <TJ-> sky: right, so you'll need cups-daemon installed
[17:06] <sky> TJ-: I have the printer working on other machines with lpd
[17:06] <sky> whats cups-daemon?
[17:07] <TJ-> sky: cups-client tools connect to cups-daemon, which is responsible for managing the the printers and connecting to them
[17:07] <sky> oh yea I guess i do then heh
[17:07] <sky> that would explain why the process broken
[17:07] <TJ-> cups-daemon also operates an admin HTTP server on localhost:631 (and other interfaces if so configured))
[17:08] <vlt> hmw2: If you already opened it with mplayer I think anything malicious that could be in there would’ve been activated.
[17:08] <mustmodify> I have ubuntu 16.04. previous syslogs have entries but the current file is empty. I need to see errors from cron... I know cron is running jobs and I'm 80% sure there are errors. Isn't that where they would be? What would cause syslog not to run? rsyslog is "start/running".
[17:08] <hmw2> vlt: I am not concerned about my machine, I want to see, if this some new kind of activity going on.
[17:09] <hmw2> *is
[17:10] <sky> TJ-: so i installed the daemon, now I get lpinfo: cups-driverd failed to execute
[17:10] <mustmodify> This is causing a production site supporting at least 50 users... so any help would be appreciated.
[17:10] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/5f2f53a79635715a4003fcad52fe47d3
[17:11] <vlt> hmw2: What does `ffmpeg -i file.mov` tell you? Any suspicious non-video or non-audio tracks?
[17:11] <mustmodify> is this ownership correct? I saw that sometimes causes an issue.
[17:11] <TJ-> sky: cupsd also has a config file at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. In there is an apache http-like config where you can set the Listen hostname:port. By default it requires system permissions to access some settings but others are read-only viewable by anonymous so if you enable that on the pulbic interfaces best to customised some the <Limit> sections to require system authentication
[17:12] <iMin3Ra1n> hey guys
[17:12] <iMin3Ra1n> is there any way to view a "microsoft storage space" (raid setup by windows) in ubuntu?
[17:12] <sky> TJ-: cool i know how to work on that stuff
[17:13] <vlt> iMin3Ra1n: I have never seen anything on linux that might do this. But I haven’t seen everything ;-)
[17:13] <sky> so the cups.service is now running
[17:13] <sky> lpinfo: cups-driverd failed to execute.
[17:14] <iMin3Ra1n> vlt, id imagine there's some way to do it. I personally thought it was a normal raid setup
[17:14] <TJ-> sky: do you get any result from: "/usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-driverd dump"
[17:14] <sky> the only file in daemon is cups-exec
[17:15] <vlt> iMin3Ra1n: There absolutely is a way. It’s just bytes on a block device.
[17:15] <iMin3Ra1n> all my media is on those drives so, i would like to try iot
[17:15] <Guest58761> hi
[17:15] <sky> TJ-: maybe I should just install the cups package?
[17:16] <iMin3Ra1n> vlt, do we know of a way? google yield nothing other than " blah blah blah microsoft's proprietary filesystem blah blah blah"
[17:16] <TJ-> sky: well yes, for cups-driverd !
[17:16] <hmw2> vlt: Looks like just 2 streams, h264 and aac.
[17:17] <iMin3Ra1n> even if i were to move all my data off of my computer onto a drive in order to create a raid setup, how would i create one that both OS'es (Ubuntu1604 and Windows10) are able to view?
[17:17] <zteam> Hi does anybody here know any tool that is able to verify what output refresh rate a particular hdmi cable supports?
[17:17] <sky> TJ-: lols. I was trying to go lightweight only wanting the client
[17:17] <iMin3Ra1n> zteam, afaik its not based on the cable, but rather the ports. however there is a current set standard
[17:17] <sky> why are all these packages split apart if you cant even use em
[17:17] <TJ-> sky: I've been there :)
[17:18] <sky> TJ-: know what package has cups-driverd?
[17:18] <TJ-> sky: you can, if properly configured/passed options. client tools can be pointed directly to a remote cups-daemon for example
[17:18] <iMin3Ra1n> The maximum pixel clock rate for HDMI 1.0 is 165 MHz, which is sufficient to allow 1080p and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz. HDMI 1.3 increases that to 340 MHz, which allows for higher resolution (such as WQXGA, 2560×1600)
[17:18] <TJ-> sky: the one you said you should install: cups
[17:20] <sky> man thats a whole lotta stuff
[17:21] <zteam> iMin3Ra1n, well, there is " high speed"and "high speed premium" as well of "standard speed", normally I could just verify this by pressing the info button on my tv to see which resolution and refrersh rate it picks up from the cable, but unfourneatly it doesn't print the refresh rate, but only the resolution
[17:21] <sky> at least it works now :D
[17:21] <sky> TJ-: thanks for the help !
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> hmw2, if a file was sent to you unsolicited, then it's probably maliciou. When in doubt about an e-mail, I delete.. don't even investigate as there really isn't any foolproof way to analyze the file
[17:26] <carman>  /disconnect giacomo
[17:27] <akik> hmw2: there's a web service that can check files for you https://www.virustotal.com/
[17:27] <zteam> akik, just was I was going to suggest
[17:27] <zteam> virustotal is great
[17:27] <hmw2> akik: zteam: thanks, sounds good.
[17:29] <zteam> hmw2, it basically scans your files with 15 (I believe) antivirus engines and tells you what they found
[17:30]  * Sikorsky say hello
[17:38] <hmw2> zteam: more like 60 :) Came back "clean", but I didn't use antivirus software in ages. Would they even find stuff in videos? Well. That was not a real question anyways. I'll create a VM and try some more things. Thanks for your time.
[17:38] <hmw2> akik: vlt: ^
[17:39] <sky> hmw2: its possible that the video could exploit something in the video player software
[17:40] <TJ-> hmw2: the usual exploit with videos is to try to force a buffer overflow with some ROP payload in a targeted player. Most likely targeted at a Windows media player rather than Linux.
[17:40] <zteam> hmw2, a true videofile cannot contain any malware (it could try to target a specific video player as sky says, but=
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto file a bug against a snap? im getting an error it cant find the package
[17:43] <zteam> TJ-, I highly doubt someone would spend any time with that, it would be much easier to just make an EXE-file and rename it to .EXE.MKV and use the icon of a regular MKV file
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> dpkg-query:no packages found matching
[17:45] <zteam> lotuspsychje, not sure it works, but have u tried ubuntu-bug =
[17:45] <zteam> ?
[17:45] <zteam> if yes, man ubuntu-bug might give u some hint
[17:45] <ioria> lotuspsychje, maybe you need to contact the developer ....
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> zteam: thats what i did ubuntu-bug snapname
[17:46] <zteam> nothing usual with man ubuntu-bug either?
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yeah that would make sense, file against the launchpad from the maintainer
[17:48] <ioria> lotuspsychje, snap info <snap-name>  | grep contact
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria: cool +1
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: but howto know wich part is faulty, the ubuntu part or the snap part, i see bugs against snapd also
[17:53] <ioria> lotuspsychje, afaik snaps are like 'containers', so i guess the point is mainly in the snap ...
[17:56] <nacc> lotuspsychje: you file it with the contact info in the snap info
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> ioria: in my case its brave browser freezing at launch, so you think its faulty snap?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> nacc: ok tnx
[17:57] <ioria> lotuspsychje, idk, mate sy
[17:57] <nacc> lotuspsychje: you start with the snap owner, then hoepfully they will contact snapd maintainers if it's a snapcraft/snapd issue
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> nacc: ah good thinking, let them findout first
[17:58] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yeah
[17:59] <skinux> How come when I open something "with" Synaptic, I cannot find the package nor a way to tell it to install?
[17:59] <leftyfb> Don't use synaptic. There's probably a reason it's not installed by default anymore
[18:00] <jerichowasahoax> leftyfb: because as far as GUI package managers go, ubuntu already ships with a "friendlier" one
[18:01] <jerichowasahoax> leftyfb: if there was something wrong with synaptic to the point where people would have to say "don't use it", i'm not sure it would still be in the main repos
[18:02] <pragmaticenigma> It's not installed by default because it doesn't earn Canonical potential revenue. Ubuntu Software Center includes both Free and Paid applications as well as advertisements.
[18:02] <TJ-> don't forget all the bugs you get for free!
[18:03] <meandrain> Hi, any idea how to solve this?  https://i.imgur.com/7TX9hh8.jpg I am trying to boot a linux machine over nfs, it works on other machines but not on this. This error (it's a linux bug) usually happens on machines with two network cards but on this I have only one network card (but I have some weird option in bios regarding enabling uefi network stack, which is disabled, everything is legacy boot in bios by the way)
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> I use synaptic because Ubuntu Software Center doesn't tell me if it's about to install a Snap package or a real system package. I don't want snaps on my installation
[18:04] <TJ-> meandrain:  r8169 is reporting the link is up; what is it connected to at the other end?
[18:06] <TJ-> meandrain: I notice 'modinfo -F firmware r8169' lists a lot of possible firmware files; have you ensured the correct FW file is in the initrd.img and has been loaded at that point?
[18:07] <funky> Got my mainboard now I have to get a GPU  any suggestions as to what one would be the most compatible for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[18:07] <meandrain> TJ-: it is connected via a cisco switch to a freebsd nfs server
[18:08] <meandrain> this setup works for other ubuntu nfs booted linux clients
[18:09] <funky> Not the latest or greatest but an older one around 200 CDN
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> funky: ubuntu runs on alot of graphics cards
[18:10] <TJ-> meandrain: can you monitor on the DHCP server to see if it is getting the DHCP DISCOVER packets from the clients?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> funky: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[18:11] <meandrain> TJ-: yes, I will try that
[18:11] <funky> Was given a suggestion the other night but that one is not much better than the one I have.   Nvidia is supposted to have great support. I have one and it works llike a charm  I just want a better one
[18:12] <funky> Thanks lotuspsychje
[18:12] <funky> I'll check it out.
[18:12] <TJ-> funky: with Nvidia you can hit pain-points when the nvidia proprietaty driver doesn't keep up with mainline kernels
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> funky: it also depends on what you will be doing on your ubuntu system
[18:14] <meandrain> TJ-: after a while I got this error: https://i.imgur.com/0lAZPR2.jpg
[18:14] <adrian_1908> funky: What GPU do you currently have btw?
[18:16] <TJ-> meandrain: makes sense if the file-system cannot be found
[18:16] <funky> couldn't find the GPU section lotuspsychje
[18:17] <funky> do I have to download the PDF file and read it?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> funky: you could check a pc brand with the gpu card you gonna buy
[18:18] <funky> Thanks good Idea
[18:18] <NDx33xsy> hello
[18:18] <funky> Later follks
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> NDx33xsy: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:19] <Ascavasaion>  I have a RAID5 setup with 8x4Tb SAS disks.  When I try a mount command with UUID code I get a "mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'  Please can someone help me?
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !uuid | Ascavasaion
[18:20] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: I have the UUID.
[18:21] <funky> I'm heading out to the store right now and I wanted to make a copy of the list that I was given. My printers will not work in Ubuntu for some reason. I have two printers and both don't have drivers for Ubuntu is there a place that makes them that I can get them from
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> !info mdadm | Ascavasaion try this mate
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> funky: wich ubuntu version?
[18:23] <funky> One is a HP Envy 4800 the other is a   oops  Ubuntu 16.04
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> funky: hp envy works fine on xenial
[18:24] <meandrain> TJ-: https://dpaste.de/qTWm.  and the system is stucked at ip-config no responese after 2 secs giving up. but with info regarding enp3s0 nic and ipv4 ip
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> funky: did you install hplip-data & hplip-gui
[18:24] <funky> the other is samsung ML675
[18:24] <funky> no
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip-data | funky install please
[18:25] <TJ-> meandrain: is this a PXE boot? and what is the passed kernel command line?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> funky: the samsung one, try to add the printer via usb/add printer in settings
[18:26] <funky> newbie here is there a site that tells me how to do that?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> !printer | funky
[18:27] <meandrain> TJ-: yes, it is pxelinux, here is the config: https://dpaste.de/AS5L
[18:27] <funky> I did that for the samsung lotuspsychje  ubottu
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> funky: did you update your system to latest?
[18:28] <funky> said it was the wrong printer lotus
[18:28] <TJ-> meandrain: is 10.0.1.207 the IP address handed out to the client for the PXE session?
[18:29] <funky> ok I'll go do some work on this thanks
[18:29] <meandrain> TJ-: yes
[18:29] <meandrain> TJ-: I also tried the following options on append line:  ip=10.0.1.207:10.0.1.45:10.0.1.1:255.255.255.0:::none
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> funky: here's a few ideas on the samsung one: https://askubuntu.com/questions/170880/how-do-i-install-the-drivers-for-my-samsung-printer
[18:30] <meandrain> TJ-: and I also tried:     boot=nfs live-netdev=eth0 ethdevice-timeout=10
[18:30] <TJ-> meandrain: I suspect the problem here is the DHCP server has already issued a lease to fc:aa:14:75:eb:cd so when it almost immediately does another DISCOVER the server is telling it it's existing lease is still valid (because the client didn't do a DHCP RELEASE first)
[18:31] <TJ-> meandrain: If I recall correctly there is a way to continue using the PXE assignment
[18:31] <v0lksman> I'm having a problem on multiple systems with logrotate.  it doesn't want to restart apache2 after rotating.  nothing fancy needs to be done when I login other than to start apache2 again so why does logrotate not do it?  I checked the templates that come with 16.04 and they still seem to use init.d but that seems weird to me.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8wffHnTHQv/
[18:31] <meandrain> TJ-: I tried.  IPAPPEND 2  in the same pxelinux.cfg file
[18:32] <v0lksman> that is my customized version to rotate the logs for my vhost
[18:32] <v0lksman> any suggestions?
[18:33] <meandrain> TJ-: I had the same issue on a machine with two nics, changing the ethernet cable to use secondary nic worked but here I have a single nick and I think the bios somehow messes with standard pxeboot (it has that weird network stack enable options). I could add another nic and boot from that, I think it will work but that is kind of lame
[18:34] <sla3k> Hi, what are these permissions: drwxrwxr-x+ I am mainly concerned about that + at the end
[18:34] <TJ-> meandrain: can you use tcpdump on the DHCP server in verbose mode to actually look at the content of the REQUEST/REPLY packets so we know what the conversation is? Or capture it and then look at it in wireshark/tshark
[18:34] <sla3k> This is a directory mounted using cifs (smb share)
[18:35] <funky> HP has taken over all the drivers etc, for Samsung  :0(  lotuspsychje
[18:35] <TJ-> meandrain: and this - which shouldn't make a different on a single NIC but might! - on kernel command-line (APPEND) "ksdevice=bootif"
[18:36] <TJ-> meandrain: this ^^^^ is what you need on the dual NIC systems
[18:36] <funky> it's ok I'll go to the HP site and find it there Hopefully
[18:36] <meandrain> TJ-: I will try that, thank you
[18:40] <TJ-> meandrain: gah, gave you the wrong syntax (was messing with Fedora!) On debian/Ubuntu it is "BOOTIF=<mac-address>"
[18:42] <TJ-> meandrain: as in "BOOTIF=00-11-22-33-44-55-66"
[18:43] <meandrain> is it with - or : between mac hex numbers ?
[18:46] <meandrain> TJ-: thank you, I am close to solve this
[18:54] <Rooot> hello there, does it usually take "long" to run bablocks, talking about larger disks?
[18:57] <tomreyn> Rooot: it can take hours, especially if there are bad ones.
[18:58] <ubuntu> guys amazon music doesnt play on my ubuntu machine
[18:58] <ubuntu> chrome browser
[18:58] <ubuntu> could anyone help me out with this
[18:58] <Guest77290> i tried installing adobe flash
[18:59] <tomreyn> Guest77290: why? what's your question about it?
[19:00] <Ben64> amazon music 'just works' in chrome for me
[19:02] <Guest77290> even in forefox it doesnt work
[19:02] <Rooot> tomreyn, oh, right, thank you!
[19:03] <Guest77290> a pop up is blocked asking for running a adobe flash player
[19:03] <Guest77290> i allowed it and restarted chrome and firefox
[19:03] <Guest77290> nowhere in my machine amazon music works
[19:04] <tomreyn> i also see the "flash needed" message on  both firefox and chromium (incognito mode). cannot test whetehr ti actually works, though.
[19:04] <tomreyn> see if you can find some description of system requirements
[19:06] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, how did you install Adobe Flash?
[19:06] <Guest77290> i got a popup asking Adobe Flash is required to play this music. To stream music on Amazon Music for Web without any plugins, please use the latest versions of one of the following browsers: Chrome, Safari, Edge, Safari, and Firefox on Windows and Mac.
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, did you notice two keywords at the end of the message? "Window and Mac"
[19:07] <NDx33xsy> quit
[19:07] <Ben64> it works fine in Ubuntu
[19:07] <Guest77290> pragmaticenigma:  there should be a way
[19:07] <Guest77290> it is browser
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> !who |Ben64
[19:07] <Guest77290> atleast a plugin should make it work
[19:07] <Guest77290> :)
[19:08] <Ben64> what version of chrome, what version of ubuntu
[19:08] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, some websites check more than for the plugin. If they do not recoginize the OS, they will not work
[19:08] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, you also didn't tell us how you installed Adobe Flash yet
[19:08] <Guest77290> chrome is latest Ben64 and ubuntu 16.04
[19:09] <Guest77290> chrome i just tried to update it said you are on latest
[19:09] <Ben64> and 'latest' is...?
[19:09] <Guest77290> a min plz
[19:09] <Guest77290> Ben64: Version 65.0.3325.181 (Official Build) (64-bit)
[19:10] <Orbitor> Guest77290: go to chrome://components and make sure "adobe flash player" is there
[19:10] <Ben64> ha, newer than mine. well mine is playing music currently
[19:10] <Guest77290> Orbitor:  it is there
[19:10] <Guest77290> Adobe Flash Player - Version: 29.0.0.113 Status - Up-to-date
[19:11] <Orbitor> Guest77290: what about "widevine content decryption module"
[19:11] <jembelee> hello i got a flash drive and it worked initially but when i inserted it later i couldnt find it on the gui of the files ....but i can see it in the disk so when i tried sudo mount /dev/sdb i am getting mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab
[19:11] <jembelee> and the label is sdb please help
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, Amazon has a history of blocking Linux, as do many other music/video streaming providers. They may have pushed an update to block Linux machines again
[19:11] <Ben64> pragmaticenigma: except i've said many times now that i'm listening to it right now
[19:12] <Guest77290> Orbitor:  it is not there
[19:12] <Guest77290> the widevine one
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, STILL hasn't told us how they installed Adobe Flash either
[19:12] <Orbitor> Ben64: It's working for you, do you have widevine in chrome://components?
[19:12] <Ben64> nope
[19:13] <Orbitor> Huh. I guess the next thing to try would be spoofing a Windows UA
[19:13] <Guest77290> from official site with the help of this link https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[19:13] <Guest77290> pragmaticenigma:  ^^
[19:14] <ioria> Guest77290, are you kidding ?
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, that method doesn't work
[19:14] <leftyfb> Ben64: do you have your user agent switched? It's not working for me either
[19:14] <Ben64> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.162 Safari/537.36
[19:15] <leftyfb> Guest77290: google chrome has adobe flash built in. You do not need to install it or worry about what version is installed on your system outside chrome
[19:15] <ioria> Guest77290, and where did you place the .so ?
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> ioria, they're not going to know that
[19:15] <ioria> ok
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, the only supported method of installing Adobe flash in UBuntu is to use the package manager by executing "sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin"
[19:16] <ioria> Guest77290, remove whatever you did, enable Canonical Partner in sources; and sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> Guest77290, you will need to remove the installed version you have, then use that method to install. Also, if you are using Chrome (not chromium) it should be working
[19:17] <Bashing-om> jembelee: What is the file system on that target drive ? Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . See then wgat we can do .
[19:17] <Guest77290> ok will get back
[19:20] <jembelee> Bashing-om https://pastebin.com/6SKFmif8 i need the /dev/sdb to work please
[19:21] <diginsan> hello why is libGL.so missing on my system?
[19:21] <ioria> jembelee, you can see that : Partition Table: unknown   and no partitions
[19:22] <diginsan> i have installed nvidia-390
[19:22] <TJ-> jembelee: show us "blkid /dev/sdb"
[19:23] <Bashing-om> jembelee: TJ- To the rescue as " Partition Table: unknown = and I have no clue how to proceed .
[19:24] <TJ-> Bashing-om: simple .. file-system on entire device; no PT required
[19:24] <jembelee> Thanks Bashing-om TJ i didnt  get any result running blkid /dev/sdb
[19:24] <TJ-> jembelee: that suggests the device is corrupt or has been wiped
[19:25] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Humm there is that yes .. but still ( testdisk ?? ) to see if this is a Windows thing ?
[19:26] <TJ-> jembelee: can you show us "pastebinit <( sudo hexdump -C -n 8192 /dev/sdb )"
[19:27] <jembelee> TJ https://pastebin.com/68gLx51k
[19:28] <TJ-> jembelee: looks like you've managed to wipe it... the most important part anyhow, the first 16 sectors, are zeroed
[19:28] <ioria> jembelee, do you have data on that ?
[19:29] <jembelee> TJ how do i fix it please
[19:29] <TJ-> jembelee: fix it? if you've wiped the data by over-writing with zeros the data is gone.
[19:29] <jembelee> no i dont its a new drive
[19:29] <ioria> jembelee, so you need to partition it; gparted is good
[19:29] <jembelee> TJ i dont need the data there is nothing dere
[19:30] <TJ-> ioria: it had files on it previously, according to jembelee
[19:30] <TJ-> jembelee: OK, so partition and format it using your favourite tool - gparted maybe?
[19:30] <ioria> TJ-, he says the contrary
[19:31] <fa> privet
[19:31] <TJ-> ioria: 20:11 <jembelee> hello i got a flash drive and it worked initially but when i inserted it later i couldnt find it on the gui of the files
[19:31] <jembelee> Ok TJ ioria i need to install gparted
[19:32] <ioria> jembelee, it's a new drive ? never used ?
[19:32] <jembelee> yes ioria
[19:32] <Bashing-om> jembelee: gparted is on the desktop installer .
[19:33] <ioria> jembelee, ok, install gparted; top left box; select /sda/sdb
[19:33] <ioria> *top right
[19:33] <ioria> jembelee, after, you need to choose a partion table (msdos) and the file system (ntfs/ext4)
[19:34] <jembelee> ioria, TJ ok thank you very much
[19:34] <ioria> jembelee, ok
[19:35] <andreb> good day
[19:35] <andreb> is is possible to setup dhcp to handle 1500 users ?
[19:37] <vlt> andreb: Yes.
[19:38] <andreb> can you point me in the direction to how to do that
[19:38] <andreb> never had to setup for that much
[19:42] <xinobi> by mistake I chown root:root under /var so now mysql and probably a few more services do not work properly is there any way I can restore permissions?
[19:43] <UserUS> xinobi: I'm pretty sure you could just change the number when putting in the chown to change the permissions value to whatever you want
[19:43] <pragmaticenigma> xinobi, unless you know what the original users were, that's going to be very difficult to restore
[19:44] <UserUS> xinobi: sudo chmod -R 700 /etc (this is the syntax)
[19:44] <xinobi> pragmaticenigma: yep I could guess that way but can't afford to reinstall the all server right now
[19:45] <pragmaticenigma> xinobi, most of the services have their user/group names in their config files in /etc
[19:45] <TJ-> xinobi: this might get you some of the way to know what ownership you need: "grep 'chown.*var' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*"
[19:45] <pragmaticenigma> so if MySQL runs under mysql, you could chown -R mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
[19:45] <dijuremo> What was the right channel to discuss issues related to BIOS updates, kernels, Spectre fixes, etc?
[19:45] <ioria> xinobi, just /var or recursively /var ?
[19:46] <xinobi> recusrive var
[19:46] <ioria> my
[19:46] <xinobi> my head is blowing up
[19:46] <pragmaticenigma> dijuremo,  You can try /join ##kernel
[19:46] <xinobi> what a noob mistake
[19:47] <jembelee> TJ, ioria,  i have created the partition what i'm i going to do next please
[19:47] <ioria> jembelee, what file system ?
[19:47] <TJ-> xinobi: ownership is set by the package post-install scripts. The command I gave you finds and lists those commands
[19:47] <dijuremo> pragmaticenigma: I want to think (cause I cannot remember) I was told to use #ubuntu-kernel, but I am unable to join it, says it requires registraiont
[19:48] <ioria> jembelee, now you need to format it
[19:48] <jembelee> ioria ext4
[19:48] <ioria> jembelee, ok
[19:48] <rexan> I'm also having problem installing Ubuntu during partitions please help
[19:48] <ioria> jembelee, you can't use it on windows, you know right ?
[19:48] <xinobi> TJ-: yes I'm read the output now and replacing permissions
[19:48] <jembelee> no i havent tried it on windows yet
[19:49] <ioria> jembelee, you can't
[19:49] <dijuremo> nevermind, just had to again authenticate with the password for my nick...
[19:49] <jembelee> ioria, i dont have a windows machine
[19:49] <ioria> jembelee, we're ok, then ; unplug and plug it again
[19:49] <pragmaticenigma> dijuremo, have fun! :-)
[19:49] <rexan> I have dynamic partition on windows in which I created free space but it is not showing on partiton page of Ubuntu !please help
[19:51] <rexan> Ping
[19:51] <ioria> jembelee, umount first
[19:52] <jembelee> ioria,  device not mounted
[19:52] <Bashing-om> rexan: Dynamic ? Are you sure ? as that is proprietary to Windows . See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692248 .
[19:52] <ioria> jembelee, ok
[19:53] <asyterirc41162> does it possible to install ubuntu with ms windows 10 on my pc?
[19:53] <Bashing-om> !dual boot | asyterirc41162
[19:53] <rexan> Bashing-om: yes I am definitely sure
[19:54] <rexan> Bashing-om: actually I want to dual boot
[19:54] <Bashing-om> rexan: Ouch . got to convert .. Never done it so can not directly advise .
[19:54] <asyterirc41162> thanks!
[19:54] <TJ-> rexan: do you mean "Dynamic Disk" not "dynamic partition" ?
[19:55] <TJ-> rexan: see this https://askubuntu.com/questions/482768/changing-windows-dynamic-disk-partition-to-basic-partition-and-not-the-full-driv
[19:55] <ioria> jembelee,  unplug the stick and re-plug
[19:55] <sky> arg still cant get the printer to actually print anything. hrmph
[19:56] <sky> tried so many protocols
[19:56] <rexan> Bashing-om:  how to convert it is getting difficult ! and I am also having amd processor !
[19:56] <sky> thought it was my cli foo, but now I cant maek it work with the web admin either
[19:57] <TJ-> sky: you said earlier you are setting up CUPS on a Linode; is the printer in your office/home? if so, how is CUPS on the Linode communicating with the printer?
[19:58] <jembelee> ioria, still not working when i plug it the file system just blinks but cannot mount or umount the flash drive
[19:58] <ioria> jembelee,  it's supposed to automount ; please paste again   sudoparted -l
[19:59] <ioria> jembelee,  sudo parted -l
[19:59] <xinobi> I guess everything is fine now ;) not sure if 100% OK but I hope so... thank you all for your precious help it saved my skin
[20:00] <jembelee> ioria, https://pastebin.com/JycRGwPV
[20:00] <Bashing-om> rexan: know for sure wwhat you are working with - drive wise - in addition to the aboves see : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1839373&page=2 .
[20:00] <ioria> jembelee,  there is no partitions
[20:01] <rexan> Holy shit TJ-  thanks you very much I am also using that very same model which is described in link !
[20:01] <ioria> jembelee,  you did the PT but not the partition; maybe you forgot 'Apply' button
[20:02] <jembelee> ioria, i created it, oh thanks already doing that
[20:04] <zarzar> hi, some of the dash history is missing when i run "history", does ubuntu's dash have another way to retrieve history?
[20:09] <TJ-> rexan: you probably wrote that question in your sleep :)
[20:11] <JackStraw> hi Ubuntu users. Who can help me fix this error, E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi-snapshot.list (type)
[20:12] <kostkon> JackStraw, cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi-snapshot.list  and pastebin it
[20:14] <JackStraw> kostkon,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi-snapshot.list
[20:14] <JackStraw> ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
[20:14] <JackStraw> # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
[20:15] <kostkon> JackStraw, and that is all there is?
[20:16] <JackStraw> kostkon yes
[20:16] <kostkon> JackStraw, have you removed vivaldi?
[20:16] <jembelee> ioria i have applied it finish but under the filesystem type i am getting  unknown
[20:16] <JackStraw> no
[20:17] <JackStraw> i cant cause softwaew center and sinaptic wont start becase of the error
[20:17] <kostkon> JackStraw, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi*
[20:18] <JackStraw> kostkon /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi*
[20:18] <JackStraw> ## THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
[20:18] <JackStraw> # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
[20:18] <JackStraw> ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
[20:18] <JackStraw> # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
[20:18] <kostkon> JackStraw, not cat, ls
[20:19] <JackStraw> kostkon bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list: Permission denied
[20:20] <kostkon> JackStraw, pastebin the output of   ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:21] <JackStraw> kostkon https://pastebin.com/dS8R4zgy
[20:21] <rivyn> What's the status of 18.04?
[20:23] <rud0lf> i use xubuntu 18.04 beta atm
[20:24] <leftyfb> !bionic | rivyn
[20:24] <JackStraw> he quit hrmm
[20:25] <rivyn> thanks
[20:25] <rivyn> I read that the release date was yesterday though
[20:28] <leftyfb> rivyn: you read wrong. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further discussion
[20:28] <TJ-> rivyn: this is the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[20:28] <leftyfb> rivyn: Ubuntu versions have the year and month in the version numbers. 18.04 is 2017 04 ... April
[20:28]  * TJ- hands leftyfb an "8" :)
[20:29] <leftyfb> oops
[20:29] <leftyfb> yeah, one of those
[20:29] <leftyfb> sorry, I'm 5 hours into what was supposed to be a 1 hour deploy/upgrade at work
[20:29] <TJ-> leftyfb: I know the feeling; I've been cleaning up after a 16.04>18.04 d.r.u.
[20:30] <leftyfb> This one is bad though
[20:30] <TJ-> not bad, but following up on conf-files where I couldn't allow the package default to replace the existing, so had to go through manually
[20:30] <kostkon> i'm back :/
[20:31] <TJ-> drumroll please!
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[20:48] <haarolean> hey, got a problem with wlan on ubuntu gnome 17.10. Updating to 17.10 caused some problems, including this one. Wlan is connected to a network, but I can't ping anything, even the gateway. Wired works fine, restarting networking / reconnecting few times to the network / restarting nm helps sometimes. Any ideas? Tried various stuff from google
[20:48] <haarolean> it *was* ubuntu-gnome before, not it's not I guess :)
[20:49] <Yahuah> so in test of the symbolic link pwer Deleted "Home" Folder Aft creating symbolic link under another mv 'symbolic_link_to_"Home" To_xample_d'' and sudo nautilus move to Trash "Home" programs are still active which were running before sudo nautilus move to Trash "Home" but havent Yet reboot And havent yet Reboot though presuming the "(nautilus:1073): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0" is related to moved "Home" should probab
[20:49] <Yahuah> ly try to restore said "Home Directory" Any Advise
[20:50] <nacc> Yahuah: that is incredibly hard to read
[20:51] <Yahuah> Made Symbolic link to "Home", Moved sdaid Home to Trash
[20:51] <Yahuah> said Home to Trash*
[20:53] <iehusha> now there is (nautilus:1073): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[20:54] <nacc> iehusha: you made a symbolic link (in nautilus?) to Home, then moved Home to Trash?
[20:54] <iehusha> Y
[20:55] <nacc> iehusha: ... why would you do that?
[20:56] <iehusha> @nacc was testing power of symbolic link to add native language name to file folder not supported by ubuntu Fully
[20:56] <nacc> iehusha: but you trashed your home directory?
[20:56] <nacc> why would that ever be your test?
[20:56] <nacc> iehusha: also, your symbolic link now points to nothing
[20:57] <iehusha> well it apparently points to ./Trash/Home///
[20:57] <nacc> iehusha: which if you empty your Trash will go away
[20:57] <nacc> iehusha: why wouldn't you just test with a not-important directory?
[20:57] <kes0> Todays move this one
[20:58] <iehusha> or if read write cycles overload then will abolish said SL
[20:58] <nacc> kes0: who are you talking to?
[20:58] <nacc> iehusha: what?
[20:58] <iehusha> so here is the test How can we restore
[20:59] <asyterirc45208> привет мир
[20:59] <nacc> !ru | asyterirc45208
[20:59] <nacc> asyterirc45208: although i see  you were typing random characters earlier, please stop that in this channel.
[20:59] <asyterirc45214> понятно
[21:00] <kostkon> nacc, maybe even that ^ is random
[21:01] <nacc> kostkon: yeah
[21:02] <TJ-> iehusha: Install "trash-cli" and run "/usr/bin/restore-trash"
[21:02] <iehusha> the overload of r/w cycles to drive will abolish any holding of The Undeleted Symbolic Link re SL
[21:03] <nacc> iehusha: that sounds like gibberish to me
[21:03] <nacc> iehusha: "overload of r/w cycles"?
[21:03] <kostkon> bot?
[21:03] <nacc> kostkon: possibly
[21:04] <iehusha> well trash doesnt hold files except for limited period
[21:04] <nacc> iehusha: ... until you empty it
[21:04] <TJ-> nacc: I suspect it's going through Google Translate :)
[21:04] <nacc> iehusha: which can be never (it's configurable, iirc)
[21:04] <iehusha> and what is irc Command for addressing user in channel Please. Refresh
[21:05] <akik> iehusha sounds like a bot
[21:06] <iehusha> akik
[21:06] <haarolean> anything about wlan not working on 17.10/earlier? no pings at all, various google tricks didn't help, restarting nm/networking/reconnecting helps
[21:06] <akik> iehusha: that's what a bot would say
[21:07] <iehusha> Am not bot +1(518)992-5894 Verify
[21:07] <iehusha> just no native Eng
[21:08] <nacc> iehusha: well, i would not recommend putting an actual phone number on irc, but whatever
[21:08] <iehusha> Love the Buntu
[21:08] <nacc> iehusha: in any case, what are you actually tring to test? don't say 'the concept of symbolic links'
[21:08] <iehusha> that it
[21:09] <iehusha> how to address user in channel command please refresh on said irc usage command
[21:09] <nacc> iehusha: just like we all are doing, you put their nick first (use tab)
[21:10] <kostkon> !tab | iehusha
[21:10] <iehusha> nacc thanks Much appreciated
[21:10] <nacc> iehusha: yw
[21:10] <kostkon> iehusha, which irc client are you using
[21:10] <iehusha> xchat
[21:11] <iehusha> so the tab brings up list but doesnt auto comp like tab in term
[21:11] <iehusha> kostkon,
[21:11] <akk> iehusha: In hexchat (basically the same as xchat) I type ieh<tab> and it completes to your nick.
[21:12] <iehusha> wait that is just if there is multiple poss
[21:12] <iehusha> akk,  ieh is singular in channel
[21:12] <iehusha> akk,  You could be 1 Of 3
[21:12] <akk> Right, the point is that you have to type enough characters for it to know how to complete.
[21:13] <iehusha> akk,  Re 1 Of 4
[21:13] <akk> It's apparently a preference what to do if there are multiples; in mine it autocompletes to the first one (I should figure out how to change that).
[21:13] <iehusha> akk, *
[21:13] <akk> But the point is, if you type enough letters, it'll do the right thing.
[21:14] <iehusha> akk,  You cant unless you havew Singular uniqure nic
[21:15] <akik> iehusha: it depends on your client. irssi can cycle nicks with only one letter
[21:15] <akk> iehusha: If you want something that will figure one you want out of multiple possible completions after you type just one letter, you may need a much smarter program. :)
[21:15] <nacc> iehusha: in any case there are better channels than this for learning how to use your irc client; do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:16] <iehusha> nacc,  useing IRC is nothing "New" just putting it back together was railroaded for 3+ in prison
[21:17] <nacc> iehusha: I'm sorry to hear that, but not ontopic either; again, do you have an Ubuntu support topic?
[21:18] <iehusha> nacc,  well Am testing the "apt-get install trash-cli" advice
[21:19] <kostkon> !info trash-cli
[21:19] <nacc> iehusha: well, that advice was given, i believe, so you could restore your trashed home directory without the desktop
[21:20] <iehusha> got it
[21:23] <iehusha> TJ-, iehusha@l00001000:/$ trash -- Home
[21:23] <iehusha> trash: cannot trash non existent `Home'
[21:23] <t3pleni9> \quit
[21:24] <nacc> iehusha: as TJ- said, use restore-trash
[21:24] <nacc> iehusha: as I said, the reference to that package was given so you could fix your system without having access to a GUI
[21:27] <iehusha> nacc,  appArently on account of Sym Link, iehusha@l00001000:/$ restore-trash Home
[21:27] <iehusha> No files trashed from current dir ('/')
[21:27] <iehusha> iehusha@l00001000:/$ restore-trash Home/iehusha
[21:27] <iehusha> No files trashed from current dir ('/')
[21:28] <nacc> iehusha: try running it without arguments? I've never used it
[21:29] <sky> well, still not much progress getting my printer to print form my ubuntu machine
[21:29] <iehusha> nacc,  $ restore-trash
[21:29] <iehusha> No files trashed from current dir ('/')
[21:29] <sky> all the protocols I tried, no luck
[21:29] <iehusha> nacc, apparently on account of s/l
[21:30] <nacc> iehusha: what sym link do you have?
[21:31] <iehusha> nacc,  sym link שמים
[21:31] <iehusha> nacc ubuntu has native support for heb lang but home Is Home
[21:32] <Mr_Pan> o/j #ubuntu-it
[21:34] <TJ-> iehusha: try "restore-trash $HOME"
[21:35] <iehusha> iehusha@l00001000:/$ ls
[21:35] <iehusha> bin    etc             lib     lost+found  proc  snap  usr          שמים
[21:35] <iehusha> boot   home            lib32   media       root  srv   var
[21:35] <iehusha> cdrom  initrd.img      lib64   mnt         run   sys   vmlinuz
[21:35] <iehusha> dev    initrd.img.old  libx32  opt         sbin  tmp   vmlinuz.old
[21:35] <iehusha> iehusha@l00001000:/$ cd home/
[21:36] <user__>  /ignore * mode joins parts quits
[21:36] <iehusha> so its theres but its not and it realy aint
[21:36] <iehusha> jjj
[21:43] <Pan51> iehusha: maybe try "cd /home/iehusha"
[21:45] <iehusha> nacc,  and for record that 3+ required release of proprietary in fo to fed how to unmask TOR, so now FED use proprietary TOR unmask which works in this way, if int.Agency make tor nework which is 50+ percent of the hitherto TOR and broadcast true location and job of those 50+ perc they will have the true user ip Base of TOR
[21:46] <iehusha> Pan51, well that will just report to sym link but files are not found
[21:46] <Pan51> oh
[21:46] <iehusha> Pan51,  this was just within 24 Hr.
[21:47] <nacc> iehusha: i have no idea what you are talking about.
[21:47] <nacc> iehusha: please stick to ubuntu support topics or go elsewhere with chitchat
[21:52] <OreoCollas> I am adding a new HDD to my system. I have hooked it up, added a partition, formatted, added a mount point and added it to fstab. When I run "mount -av" it cays "can't find UUID=b91..." Anyone able to help with this?
[21:58] <iehusha> so even after moving home to trash aft Sym Link home is in directory list -contents
[21:59] <iehusha> how can One just display contents of Trash in term
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, you have the incorrect UUID for the device. did you mount the whole disk or the partition on the disk?
[22:06] <insanity99> hi guys. im trying to boot from usb but get this error
[22:06] <insanity99> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Invalid argument Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[22:07] <hashwagon> #join ubuntu-sysadmin
[22:07] <pragmaticenigma> iehusha, if the trash has not been emptied, "ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/files/"
[22:08] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: i'm not 100% sure it will work, given they trashed their HOME dir, i believe
[22:08] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: not sure, and it's hard to tell
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> hashwagon, use a forward slash instead of a pound symbol
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> nacc, true, I though maybe they had recovered some by now
[22:08] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: i have no idea, tbh
[22:09] <michael2> Hi all, when I  have a laptop  running  ubuntu  which has completely frozen -  does anyone have any tips for trying to recover? note: <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F1>  is not working
[22:10] <insanity99> any ideas
[22:10] <OreoCollas> Pragmaticenigma: How would I be able to tell? Also, which one would I need?
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid /dev/sd*"
[22:14] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: One sec
[22:16] <insanity99> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.8.0.exe is what I used. Any good?
[22:16] <pragmaticenigma> insanity99, if you are creating bootable USB drive from windows see these instructions: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> insanity99, Rufus is the recommended USB tool for creating USB bootable install images of Ubuntu
[22:18] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: https://pastebin.com/AV10KMTM
[22:18] <iehusha> pragmaticenigma, will Try
[22:19] <iehusha> pragmaticenigma, ls: cannot access '/home/iehusha/.local/share/Trash/files/': No such file or directory
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, You're trying to mount a harddrive that does not have any partitions on it. You will need to use a tool for partitioning the drive first. Then you mount the partitions UUID to the fstab configuration
[22:20] <iehusha> pragmaticenigma, ls: cannot access '/home/iehusha/.local/share/Trash/': No such file or directory
[22:21] <insanity99> pragmaticenigma: which partion scheme for modern laptop on rufus?
[22:22] <pragmaticenigma> insanity99, are you making a boot disk for installing Ubuntu? I'm concerned I misunderstood your question
[22:22] <blad> hola
[22:23] <insanity99> USB to install
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> insanity99, there are 7 steps on the link I gave you. Everything you need to know is in that tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[22:24] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Done. It's giving me a different UUID now. I'll try to mount it.
[22:28] <insanity99> Thanks
[22:28] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: I got it mounted sucessfully. Thx for the help. Not sure if I skipped that step or messed up some how. Perms is read only. Got a quick fix or should I just google that one?
[22:28] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, is it read only after a full system reboot?
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, can tell me the configuration line in fstab?
[22:30] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Let me try. It's a server so it will take a whilr. BRB.
[22:30] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: It is UUID=..... /media/storage ext4
[22:31] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, there is nothing following the ext4?
[22:31] <OreoCollas> No
[22:31] <pragmaticenigma> okay... that would explain readonly :-)
[22:32] <OreoCollas> OK. What do I need to add?
[22:33] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, what should follow /media/storage is "/media/storage ext4 default 0 2" i believe... this is how I mount my second drive in my machine
[22:34] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, that should read what follows the UUID=xxxx is "/media/storage ext4 default 0 2" i believe... this is how I mount my second drive in my machine
[22:34] <OreoCollas> I just found that... I was looking up the tutorial on my phone and the rest of the line was off screen... I can be suck a noob at times. XD
[22:34] <JackStraw> how come they dont fork compiz to the latest ubuntu, makes me sad and angry.
[22:35] <JackStraw> so sad
[22:35] <Jordan_U> JackStraw: Since it's not a support question, such discussion is better for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:35] <JackStraw> who me?
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, it happens... be default Linux will mount readonly until something else tells it what to do. it's a safety feature
[22:35] <JackStraw> oh ok
[22:35] <JackStraw> just thoght i wold mention it,
[22:36] <JackStraw> u
[22:38] <pragmaticenigma> JackStraw, We all get passionate about our favorite software. please free to chat with us in /join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk more about compiz. maybe someone will have a suggestion on an alternative you can try and see if you like better, or a way to make the default compositor feel more like what compiz did for you
[22:42] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: I made the changes and I'm doing another reboot.
[22:43] <bindi> what does the "rescue a broken system" boot menu option do on a minimal disc?
[22:43] <bindi> is that suitable for reinstalling grub?
[22:45] <bindi> it asks for a device to use as a root file system. should i choose none and run grub-install /dev/sda?
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, yes, it can be used to recover issues with grub, do you know which version of grub you had?
[22:46] <bindi> dunno, 16.04 installation disc
[22:46] <bindi> didnt reboot after that
[22:46] <bindi> or should I mount /dev/sda (it's mounted as /target right?) and chroot /target and then install-grub
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, so fresh install using the 16.04 disk?
[22:46] <xinobi> I'm using wkhtmltopdf on both my servers dev/production and it's working without a problem on my dev server, I've followed the same steps regarding installation however I can't render assets css files images etc anyone knows what might be possible implications ?
[22:46] <bindi> yes
[22:47] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Still read only for all users but root
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, I'm not sure on that one then...
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, this should have what you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:51] <Bashing-om> OreoCollas: A 'mkdir' as sudo ... root owns the directory ..one then changes the ownership with the chown command .
[22:52] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, try making a directory with sudo, then chown the new folder to your user
[22:53] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, sudo mkdir /media/storage/my_directory && sudo chown OreoCollas:OreoCollas /media/storage/my_directory
[22:57] <nexace> how does one make bash_history unlimited and append commands immediately?
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, you cannot make it unlimited, but you can change the size
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, https://askubuntu.com/a/307568
[22:59] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: I found a way to change the perms with gksu nautilus
[22:59] <leftyfb> nexace: it's kinda rude asking the same question in multiple channels
[22:59] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, and to append immediate: https://askubuntu.com/a/67306
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, if you change the perms of /media/storage they may not stick after reboot
[23:00] <nexace> leftyfb: i
[23:00] <nexace> leftyfb: what channels other than this one?
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, you will want to create a folder your user can access instead
[23:01] <leftyfb> * nexace (~nexace@ec2-34-216-3-116.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #ubuntu
 how do you instantly append .bash_history with commands as they happen? seems like previous way of using “export PROMPT_COMMAND=‘history -a’” is not valid
[23:01] <leftyfb> from #ubuntu on EFnet
[23:01] <nexace> oh you mean another network
[23:01] <nexace> you know what else is rude
[23:01] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Let me try a quick reboot and see what happens. I changed the owner to Oreo so I feel like that should stick.
[23:01] <nexace> caring too much
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> !guidelines | nexace
[23:02] <nexace> i can say with certainty that i didnt violate the guidelines by speaking on another network
[23:05] <nexace> pragmaticenigma: unlimited is possible by using a negative value
[23:05] <nexace> thank you
[23:09] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: The changes seem to stick no problem. I apreciate you trying to help any ways. It would have taken me ages to figure out why I couldn't get it to mount. If you would like to see what I did just check this out. It was quite easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtvt2MjeCeg
[23:51] <rud0lf> i want to make service to boot another pc from lan
[23:51] <rud0lf> what codeword i need to use to google?
[23:51] <leftyfb> rud0lf: wakeonlan
[23:52] <rud0lf> thank you