| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfpanel-switch/1.0.6-0ubuntu1 :) | 01:37 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | \o/ | 01:39 |
| bluesabre | That's enough productivity for tonight | 01:40 |
| bluesabre | nighty all | 01:40 |
| Unit193 | ..I did Debian-side things. :3 | 01:42 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:43 |
| bluesabre | I saw, exciting :) | 01:43 |
| Unit193 | (Not really, but OK!) | 01:44 |
| Unit193 | I might try to push sn-plug through pkg-ayatana team instead, bluesabre. | 01:44 |
| bluesabre | nice | 01:47 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: just so you're aware - on my lets have all the ppa's install xfpanel-switch refuses to let me cancel or save - just checked on updated iso - that is ok :) | 03:52 |
| flocculant | but bug 1759117 | 04:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1759117 in xfpanel-switch (Ubuntu) "Wording of saved panel layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759117 | 04:04 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: nice! | 06:08 |
| Unit193 | Anyone with xfce4-panel 4.13? Can you try xfce4-timer-plugin (as from Debian's vcs)? | 09:54 |
| knome | ugh, i did literally one small string change in the contest code and now wordpress refuses to load any of the contest admin pages. | 11:46 |
| knome | well not one but a few changes - to strings only | 11:46 |
| Unit193 | Crap, forgot to vote again. | 11:46 |
| knome | you'll still have time | 11:46 |
| knome | as soon as i get this working | 11:46 |
| knome | ....OH | 11:50 |
| knome | welcome to go vote | 11:53 |
| knome | flocculant, did you know you have voted all except one submission? (if this is intentional, then dismiss) | 12:19 |
| knome | akxwi-dave, dkessel, pleia2, ochosi, slickymaster: you have voting to do! | 12:19 |
| knome | bbl... | 12:28 |
| pleia2 | knome: I have to vote on alllll of them? >_< | 13:30 |
| pleia2 | I don't have opinions on many! | 13:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, i also didn't vote on some where i'm undecided | 15:10 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i use 4.13 on a daily basis. if you point me to the source i can try to build and test | 15:11 |
| flocculant | knome: aah yes - couldn't see a difference between it and the one that looks the same ;) | 16:44 |
| flocculant | knome: re meeting - might be a tad late - dad taxi ... | 16:48 |
| flocculant | pleia2: I only voted on them all because I did it piece meal ;) | 16:48 |
| flocculant | - the one I didn't vote on :p | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | hah, yeah, I went in twice to vote, that was enough for me ;P | 16:49 |
| flocculant | :) | 16:49 |
| flocculant | there was a lot ... | 16:50 |
| willem | evening all | 16:58 |
| flocculant | hi willem | 16:58 |
| willem | still testing/using xubuntu 18.04. At start up just now, I got an error, which produced an | 16:59 |
| willem | wrapper-2.0 assert failure: free(): invalid pointer. | 16:59 |
| willem | I reported this to launchpad, but the issue is marked private | 16:59 |
| flocculant | ok - let it got through the process then | 16:59 |
| willem | and only direct subscribers will see the report. And I am the only direct subscriber | 17:00 |
| flocculant | yea = only you and bug team people will be able to see it | 17:00 |
| willem | ah, so some other *will* be notified? | 17:01 |
| flocculant | yep | 17:01 |
| willem | right, even though no names are shown in the "other bug subscribers"? | 17:02 |
| flocculant | yep | 17:02 |
| willem | <confused but content> | 17:02 |
| flocculant | :) | 17:02 |
| willem | thanks, as allways | 17:03 |
| flocculant | np | 17:03 |
| willem | always? | 17:03 |
| flocculant | there's a meeting tonight btw | 17:03 |
| flocculant | always :) | 17:04 |
| willem | would it be helpful if I were to attend? | 17:05 |
| flocculant | up to you - see what goes on - and they are community meetings - that usually only the team go to lol | 17:05 |
| flocculant | bbl | 17:07 |
| willem | would it be okay for me to just "listen in", and be a fly-on-the-wall-but-as-silent-as-a-dead-battery sort of attendee? | 17:07 |
| flocculant | yea of course :) | 17:07 |
| willem | what time? | 17:08 |
| flocculant | https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Community+Meeting&iso=20180327T20&p1=%3A&ah=1 | 17:08 |
| willem | here? | 17:10 |
| flocculant | yup | 17:10 |
| flocculant | right - off for a bit now | 17:10 |
| willem | sure. thanks | 17:10 |
| knome | pleia2, ochosi: well we can allow "0" votes... for the next time | 18:12 |
| knome | but for now, in order to keep the voting and chances to win the same for everyone, please vote something | 18:12 |
| knome | if you don't have an opinion, i'd probably vote down then | 18:13 |
| knome | we don't want the "wallpapers that generate the least amount of ugly" to win, but the ones that give most people the "wow, this is nice" effect | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | k | 18:14 |
| knome | willem, other bug subscribers essentially means "everybody else who has explicitly subscribed to this bug that aren't normally via their memberships" | 18:14 |
| knome | pleia2, thanks and sorry, i know it can be a daunting task if done at once | 18:15 |
| knome | there are 162 submissions fwiw | 18:15 |
| knome | you only have about 128 clicks to do (: | 18:15 |
| knome | ochosi, you're very close, just go click a few buttons :P | 18:16 |
| willem | knome, thanks. That's goood to know. I wasn't aware of that. | 18:18 |
| knome | to be exact, re: 0 voting, i want everybody to vote on every submission anyway... even if it had the same effect with not voting | 18:18 |
| knome | that's because i want to make sure the "not voted" aren't just things you missed or votes that aren't registered for technical reasons | 18:19 |
| knome | and practically, a few of the top submissions haven't got as many votes as others | 18:20 |
| knome | so they could fall out of the mix | 18:20 |
| knome | and others could rise to the mix if even with a positive sum of 1 | 18:20 |
| flocculant | then surely they aren't top submissions ;) | 18:29 |
| knome | top meaning the ones that might get included... :P | 18:57 |
| flocculant | still sounds wrong - hopefully it'd Finnglish ;) | 19:08 |
| knome | maybe i'm just a bad explainer :P | 19:09 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:09 |
| knome | maybe we should do a revised post about the window resizing.. | 19:19 |
| knome | !team | meeting in 40ish | 19:19 |
| ubottu | meeting in 40ish: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 19:19 |
| flocculant | knome: isn't the detail the same? | 19:19 |
| knome | there's a lot of gtk2 | 19:19 |
| knome | and we don't talk about greybird-a11y | 19:20 |
| knome | which is... WIP, but maybe this could get people help us with it | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | I'll be on a train during meeting, but nothing really from me anyway | 19:21 |
| knome | oki | 19:21 |
| knome | have fun | 19:21 |
| knome | :) | 19:21 |
| flocculant | well - asking people might work - it's worked for Ubuntu and their Community Theme thingy | 19:22 |
| knome | yep | 19:22 |
| knome | and tbh just brainstorming ideas could help with that thing | 19:22 |
| knome | could... | 19:22 |
| flocculant | yea | 19:23 |
| knome | it's so long since i even thought about that thing that i don't remember where we are | 19:23 |
| flocculant | no good asking me :p | 19:23 |
| knome | i don't stop a question there :P | 19:23 |
| knome | stop? | 19:23 |
| knome | eh | 19:23 |
| knome | spot | 19:23 |
| flocculant | only because perhaps you have to have a ? at the end :p | 19:24 |
| knome | nah | 19:24 |
| knome | :P | 19:24 |
| ochosi | sry guys, still on my way, will probably be late.. :/ | 19:45 |
| knome | no problemo | 19:45 |
| flocculant | obviously I'm not dad taxi as previously expected | 19:57 |
| knome | :D | 19:57 |
| knome | dad bus? | 19:57 |
| flocculant | nah - she's using friend taxi :p | 19:58 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Mar 27 20:00:23 2018 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 20:00 |
| knome | who's here for the meeting? | 20:00 |
| knome | (we encourage you to make some noise now even if you are just lurking) | 20:00 |
| willem | lurking | 20:01 |
| knome | hello willem :) | 20:01 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:01 |
| knome | (and while we do that...) | 20:01 |
| knome | #topic Open action items | 20:01 |
| knome | none carried on | 20:01 |
| knome | #topic Updates and Announcements | 20:02 |
| knome | #subtopic Wallpaper contest results (knome) | 20:02 |
| knome | this is still work on progress, i've pinged people who need to do some more voting; results will be published as soon as we're ready | 20:02 |
| knome | #subtopic Dbus timeout bug (flocculant) | 20:02 |
| knome | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1754836 | 20:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1754836 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on org.bluez:/org/bluez: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:03 |
| flocculant | right | 20:03 |
| knome | this sounds like a nasty one | 20:03 |
| flocculant | so this is mostly about the fact we've 4 weeks left - and what we do if there's not change here | 20:03 |
| flocculant | not as bad as it sounds | 20:04 |
| flocculant | effectively (afaik) rubbish boot time to live session | 20:04 |
| knome | yes | 20:04 |
| flocculant | rubbish first boot time after install | 20:04 |
| flocculant | assuming no bluetooth available | 20:05 |
| flocculant | obviously it's not good - but it could be worse | 20:05 |
| knome | have we heard any more from daniel from the bug than that single comment? | 20:05 |
| flocculant | oh right - well he's wrong anyway :p | 20:06 |
| knome | and did ali1234 end up with something that can lead to a fix? | 20:06 |
| flocculant | will cooke is aware of the issue (ubuntu have a 25s delay - amongst other issues) | 20:06 |
| knome | right... that sounds good (and i don't mean to sound snarky) | 20:06 |
| flocculant | jibel is aware and looking at it amongst other things | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | i never found anything beyond what i wrote on the bug | 20:06 |
| knome | ali1234, ok | 20:07 |
| flocculant | oh yea | 20:07 |
| flocculant | checked over the weekend - mate are affected - flexiondotorg was notified | 20:07 |
| knome | yep | 20:07 |
| knome | maybe this can get more leverage from there as well | 20:08 |
| flocculant | mmh | 20:08 |
| knome | anything else on this or shall we just keep an eye on it for now? | 20:08 |
| flocculant | well | 20:08 |
| flocculant | we need to at least have some idea of what we're going to do - I'd guess bluesabre will check logs later | 20:09 |
| knome | the only workaround for this i can come up with is drop the bluez stuff (if even that helps) and that's a bit meh too for those who *do* have bluetooth | 20:09 |
| flocculant | but nothing we can actively do now | 20:09 |
| knome | especially if they are bt-only | 20:09 |
| knome | i mean for input | 20:09 |
| flocculant | I think I'd rather release note the problem for non-bt than leave bt floundering | 20:10 |
| knome | yes | 20:10 |
| flocculant | well | 20:10 |
| knome | #info in case a fix or a good workaround isn't found, add a mention about this in the release notes | 20:10 |
| flocculant | actually I'd pretty much refuse to release without bt even if it's a bit meh | 20:10 |
| knome | yes, i don't think that's a very realistic option, just a fix for the bug... :P | 20:11 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:11 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:11 |
| knome | shall we move on? | 20:11 |
| flocculant | yea | 20:12 |
| knome | #subtopic Numlockx on laptops (flocculant) | 20:12 |
| knome | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1759112 | 20:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1759112 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Disable numlockx on laptops" [Undecided,New] | 20:12 |
| flocculant | heh | 20:12 |
| knome | i know... :P | 20:12 |
| knome | so... what's the issue numlock being on with laptops? | 20:13 |
| flocculant | so - at the weekend Sean and I discussed this a bit - some input from krytarik too - needs script to include laptop-detect | 20:13 |
| flocculant | again - was just a put it on the table thing given just you and I atm :) | 20:14 |
| knome | sure, but i'd like to know why it's a problem | 20:14 |
| knome | and also, this sounds like a relatively easy one... | 20:15 |
| knome | to fix, that is | 20:15 |
| knome | if it is indeed an issue | 20:15 |
| flocculant | currently - numlockx is on - which is fine on desktop - perhaps not so fine on a laptop - turn it off - reboot - turn it off | 20:15 |
| knome | i understand, but why isn't it fine on laptop? | 20:16 |
| flocculant | we 'could' do this with information on wiki or something too | 20:16 |
| flocculant | knome: I just brought compaints to Sean's attention | 20:16 |
| flocculant | or complaint | 20:16 |
| knome | our blog is a bit more accessible than the wiki i think, so an article there would be good | 20:16 |
| flocculant | anyway - up to dev's I suppose which they do | 20:18 |
| knome | yep | 20:18 |
| knome | i just dug through the links pasted here | 20:18 |
| knome | good job krytarik, i'm sure that's a great solution (: | 20:18 |
| krytarik | :D | 20:18 |
| knome | moving on then | 20:18 |
| knome | #subtopic Freezes | 20:19 |
| knome | #info Documentation String Freeze: March 29 (two days!) | 20:19 |
| knome | #info Final Beta Freeze: April 2 (for final beta on April 5) | 20:19 |
| knome | #info (non-language-pack) Translation Freeze: April 12 | 20:20 |
| flocculant | likely to be April 3rd | 20:20 |
| knome | ahha | 20:20 |
| knome | well anyway, there that is | 20:20 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:20 |
| knome | so for the docstringfreeze, we need to get the slideshow in order | 20:20 |
| flocculant | 2nd is official date | 20:20 |
| knome | i'll try to fix up that tomorrow | 20:20 |
| flocculant | oh yea - that's sparse ... | 20:20 |
| knome | anything else for the announcements? | 20:21 |
| flocculant | but I see the damn thing too many times during a cycle to do more than shudder at it regardless | 20:21 |
| flocculant | not for announcements | 20:21 |
| knome | ok, moving on then :) | 20:21 |
| knome | #topic Discussion | 20:21 |
| knome | since there are no agenda items on the wiki, any other discussions? | 20:22 |
| * flocculant has something | 20:22 | |
| knome | floor is yours | 20:22 |
| knome | (obviously...) | 20:22 |
| flocculant | #subtopic - Result of Dev/QA recent blogpost | 20:22 |
| knome | you aren't a chair | 20:22 |
| knome | #subtopic - Result of Dev/QA recent blogpost | 20:22 |
| knome | there we go | 20:22 |
| flocculant | so iirc we did this just before the first Beta | 20:23 |
| knome | march 4 | 20:23 |
| flocculant | we got increased coverage from NEW people on the tracker then | 20:23 |
| flocculant | so hopefully - we'll see similar next week | 20:23 |
| knome | maybe we could repost on social media to remind people of this | 20:24 |
| flocculant | and also we got someone come by to start running 18.04 as daily and check things and report stuff | 20:24 |
| knome | good good :) | 20:24 |
| flocculant | so Willem - thanks for that - logged forever in the Xubuntu meeting archive | 20:25 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:25 |
| knome | yes, thank you willem :) | 20:25 |
| knome | it's very much appreciated | 20:25 |
| flocculant | good to see new people - always adds new perspectives | 20:25 |
| flocculant | ok - nothing else from me | 20:25 |
| willem | you're welcome :-) | 20:25 |
| knome | not from me either | 20:25 |
| flocculant | knome: yea - we can certainly be loud over the weekend I think | 20:26 |
| flocculant | I'll start on m/l - then ping for twitter/g+ | 20:26 |
| knome | #action knome, pleia2 and flocculant to coordiate some social media publicity for final beta testing | 20:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome, pleia2 and flocculant to coordiate some social media publicity for final beta testing | 20:26 |
| knome | coordinate too, but who cares | 20:26 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:26 |
| knome | i guess i do... | 20:26 |
| knome | #undo | 20:26 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: ACTION | 20:26 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 20:26 |
| knome | #action knome, pleia2 and flocculant to coordinate some social media publicity for final beta testing | 20:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome, pleia2 and flocculant to coordinate some social media publicity for final beta testing | 20:26 |
| knome | #nick pleia2 | 20:27 |
| knome | #topic Schedule next meeting | 20:27 |
| knome | next up is our fantastic artwork lead and council member ochosi | 20:27 |
| knome | #action ochosi to schedule next meeting | 20:27 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ochosi to schedule next meeting | 20:27 |
| knome | #nick ochosi | 20:27 |
| knome | any final words for the archive? | 20:27 |
| flocculant | that'll be the Cantankerous Cicada first meeting then ... | 20:27 |
| flocculant | :D | 20:27 |
| knome | unless we get up in speed and have it within a week or 1,5 | 20:28 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:28 |
| knome | might be useful that | 20:28 |
| flocculant | I think needed | 20:28 |
| knome | yep | 20:28 |
| knome | always useful before a release | 20:28 |
| flocculant | if ochosi forgets I'll call one | 20:28 |
| flocculant | I'll likely be the one getting itchy for it :p | 20:28 |
| knome | yes, let's try to do this probably very early next week | 20:28 |
| knome | anyway... | 20:29 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 20:29 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Mar 27 20:29:13 2018 UTC. | 20:29 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2018/xubuntu-devel.2018-03-27-20.00.moin.txt | 20:29 |
| flocculant | knome: re wallpaper | 20:29 |
| flocculant | how long do we wait for voting? | 20:29 |
| knome | we only need to match final freeze, so we can still run it for a week if needed | 20:29 |
| flocculant | ie - what freezes do we have to care about there? or not? | 20:29 |
| flocculant | ok cool | 20:30 |
| knome | but sooner the better | 20:30 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:30 |
| knome | we still need to double-check on the licenses | 20:30 |
| flocculant | yea | 20:30 |
| willem | night all | 20:30 |
| knome | sending out the emails doesn't take a lot of time, getting replies might | 20:30 |
| knome | nighty willem :) | 20:30 |
| flocculant | willem: night :) | 20:30 |
| flocculant | yea | 20:31 |
| knome | and minutes are already uo | 20:36 |
| knome | up too | 20:36 |
| knome | sigh.. | 20:36 |
| flocculant | good chap :) | 20:36 |
| knome | i've just replaced the keyboard, next up are new fingers | 20:36 |
| flocculant | oh that - I hate that time :D | 20:36 |
| flocculant | I can touch type - because cheap kbd has lost letters from keys :p | 20:37 |
| knome | hah | 20:37 |
| knome | this wasn't cheap but has been worth the price | 20:37 |
| flocculant | anyway - I've been awake since 3:30am unfortunately - so I shall bid you good night ;) | 20:37 |
| knome | nighty flocculant :) | 20:38 |
| knome | and i'm off to do other things as well | 20:38 |
| knome | o/ | 20:38 |
| flocculant | updating thunar icons :p | 20:38 |
| pjotr | Hello, I've found a rather annoying bug in the xubuntu-meta of Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic: | 21:11 |
| pjotr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1759390 | 21:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1759390 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "numlockx shouldn't be installed by default: it's wrongly activating the hidden numeric keypad on my netbook" [Undecided,New] | 21:11 |
| pjotr | micahg, Unit193, ochosi, Noskcaj (or any other dev): can this still be fixed in time for Bionic? | 21:13 |
| krytarik | Sure, we're already on it, and that's a duplicate too. | 21:14 |
| bluesabre | Casually late. | 21:39 |
| ochosi | meh | 21:48 |
| ochosi | took considerably longer to get home | 21:48 |
| bluesabre | hi ochosi | 21:52 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 21:53 |
| ochosi | just finished reading the meeting minutes | 21:53 |
| ochosi | or backlog in fact | 21:53 |
| ochosi | will head to take the final votes now | 21:54 |
| bluesabre | awesome | 21:54 |
| ochosi | i can also do another greybird release for 18.04 | 21:55 |
| ochosi | i think the xfwm4 theme may take a bit longer to get finalized | 21:56 |
| ochosi | too many icons to draw... | 21:56 |
| ochosi | so i can also release just with the CSD hidpi fixes that are in master now | 21:56 |
| ochosi | it's still a valuable release | 21:56 |
| ochosi | hmm, where did the vote button in the sidebar go... | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: Contests > Hover the contest you want > Vote | 21:59 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: greybird release would be dandy | 21:59 |
| ochosi | yeah, the contests is missing | 22:02 |
| ochosi | from here https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/ | 22:02 |
| ochosi | k, i'll tag a release tonight | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Basically it's the release tarball+packaging, I presume you wouldn't build the package? | 22:06 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i'd rather not | 22:13 |
| ochosi | i can build from git though | 22:13 |
| ochosi | if that helps | 22:13 |
| Unit193 | Tarball/git sure, just add it and see if you get properties in the right click option. | 22:14 |
| ochosi | just git master? | 22:16 |
| Unit193 | Sure, doubt anything more than translations are new there. | 22:17 |
| ochosi | knome: voted on all | 22:18 |
| ochosi | Unit193: seems to work ok | 22:25 |
| ochosi | or did you want anything specifically tested.? | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | Just that you can right click the tray icon and see properties (and open the config.) | 22:26 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:26 |
| ochosi | done that | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Thanks. Corsac has .13 libxfce4panel but .12 panel, and we're thinking that since it affects indicator-plugin too. | 22:26 |
| ochosi | configured a timer, ran it, received the alarm | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 22:27 |
| ochosi | so that was xfce4-panel from git master with timer from git master | 22:27 |
| ochosi | the whole dialog could be much improved from the UI point of view... | 22:28 |
| ochosi | but it's working and looking very much like gtk2 | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.4.0-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) | 22:35 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v3.22.8 | 22:58 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: much appreciated | 23:00 |
| ochosi | no worries | 23:02 |
| ochosi | thanks for handling all the uploads | 23:02 |
| ochosi | do you need another icon thme release too? | 23:03 |
| ochosi | i think there was the wm icons patch | 23:03 |
| ochosi | or does it not matter that much because those get pulled directly into xubuntu-artwork anyway | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | Yes, thanks bluesabre for handling all the theme/artwork uploads, not my favorite. :3 | 23:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: doesn't matter as much since it's pulled into xubuntu-artwork | 23:07 |
| ochosi | yup, perfect then | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/3.22.8-0ubuntu1 | 23:43 |
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