[00:59] I just had a discussion with slangasek (vorlon) in #ubuntu-release earlier. He objects from a Release Team standpoint to me doing a Qt transition past when Final Freeze sets in, but it might be appropriate for an SRU. [01:00] Looking at the logs from the Qt Release Team meeting, it looks like we'll barely miss that deadline. [01:01] So what'll probably happen is preparation of 5.9.5 in Bileto and filing of SRU docs following that. We/I can then discuss with the SRU Team (and the Technical Board if necessary) if there are any concerns. [01:03] I do certainly believe that we should be able to ship 5.9 LTS updates throughout the cycle of the LTS, because from here on out, it's binary-compatible (therefore no ABI breaks) and iirc upstream is in "strict" mode so only fixes that would usually be eligible for an SRU will go in. [01:03] Of course, it'll require a manual review, but it shouldn't be horrible to do. [01:04] Once the initial review is done, if the SRU is approved, it should make further updates fairly painless. [01:05] Of course there's about a week before any of this is actionable, so if anybody has any thoughts on the matter, please do speak up. :) [02:10] tsimonq2: binary compatible for stuff not using private headers [02:11] yes, kde stuff might break [02:11] it has happened before [02:11] Hmm. [02:11] even in patch releases [02:11] OK. [02:12] but normally if qtbase and qtdeclarative don't break symbols you are mostly ok [02:12] Right. But I'm willing to bet we'll be fine. :) [02:12] I guess we'll have to see. [02:12] you will still need to rebuild packages using -private-abi, because you really want to bump it to keep coherence between submodules [02:13] But the amount of packages is likely trivial, yes? [02:14] for ubuntu, I don't know [02:14] for Debian: https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtbase-abi-5-10-0.html [02:15] and https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtdeclarative-abi-5-10-1.html which is motly the same thing [02:16] OK