| jrwren | User INterface Freeze? I don't remember these in years past. | 14:18 |
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| cmaloney | for 18.04? | 14:18 |
| cmaloney | or something else? | 14:18 |
| hpucks | Wouldn't surprise me. This is the first LTS release without Unity in what? Five years? Something like that. | 14:27 |
| Scary_Guy | good, now if we can just get rid of gnome and KDE that would be amazing | 14:28 |
| Scary_Guy | small DE's FTW | 14:28 |
| Scary_Guy | unless we're talking about VR, then sure make it pretty | 14:29 |
| hpucks | I've been using 17.10 with gnome, I don't hate it. Seems like they tried to recreate the functionality of Unity in Gnome. | 14:33 |
| jrwren | yes, 18.04 did User Interface Freeze, I just don't remember it in yeras passed. | 14:35 |
| Scary_Guy | exactly, that's why they made MATE, because they hated what Gnome became | 14:35 |
| jrwren | I hate any UI which removed the menu. Hiding it, as is hte case for web browsers is an acceptable alternative. | 14:36 |
| jrwren | `File Edit View Window Help` is such a well known UI, it is inexcusable to throw it away without strong justification. | 14:37 |
| Scary_Guy | I think a lot of people want to part from that because it seems antiquated to them and they want to "revolutionise the UX" or some crap | 14:39 |
| jrwren | That is fine. Let them, as long as they know that they are experimenting in UX | 14:39 |
| Scary_Guy | the menu is like it is because it works. fine make it dynamic like Apple but at least leave it in there | 14:40 |
| jrwren | when gnome.org claims, "An easy and elegant way to use your computer, GNOME 3 is designed to put you in control and get things done." and then ignores 30 yrs of UI and throws familiarity out the window, they should admit their hypocracy. | 14:40 |
| Scary_Guy | that and everything is a bloated memory hog too. https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/ | 14:44 |
| Scary_Guy | although that is a bit out of date now | 14:44 |
| jrwren | i love how e17 is listed. e used to be the most bloated. | 14:45 |
| jrwren | that article you linked uses "free" to measure ram before and after. That is rather pointless. | 14:47 |
| jrwren | unused ram is wasted ram. | 14:47 |
| jrwren | linux bufcache and mmap make "free" a useless tool for this type of analysis. | 14:47 |
| jrwren | All numbers in that article should be ignored. | 14:47 |
| Scary_Guy | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/linux-distros-ram-consumption-comparison-4175609369/ this one is more up to date | 14:49 |
| jrwren | again using free output. not very useful. | 15:11 |
| jrwren | yay, people in that thread saying the same thing. | 15:11 |
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