[00:10] <bluesabre> krytarik: opposed to me giving you the commit credit for numlock?
[00:11] <krytarik> Not opposed to that, no. :P
[00:11] <bluesabre> :)
[00:18] <bluesabre> nice guy
[00:18] <bluesabre> krytarik: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/revision/675 :)
[00:19] <krytarik> Hehe, even as the author! :P
[00:20] <krytarik> "for not enable" though.. :P
[00:20] <bluesabre> d'oh
[00:21] <bluesabre> will fix with the release
[00:21] <krytarik> Yeah, not a big problem for me anyway. :P
[00:22] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r675 Use 55numlockx for not enable numlock for laptops (LP: #1759... (by Krytarik Raido)
[00:32] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/18.04.5
[01:17] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [greybird] r551 Drop superfluous assets... (by Simon Steinbeiß)
[01:25] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r676 Release 18.04.5 (by Sean Davis)
[03:11] <donofrio> how do I get the "receive-key" out of an 'add-apt-repository?'
[03:11] <donofrio> found someone else with same issue - https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2960#issuecomment-376690404
[03:11] <donofrio> but he doesn't show how he got it ;)
[03:12] <donofrio> I'm so close to getting xfwm4.13 I can feel it
[03:17] <donofrio> and for background this is how I got here - http://www.tinyurl.com/donofrio1804
[03:17] <krytarik> donofrio: Please, this is no support channel.
[03:19] <donofrio> oh mybad
[03:19] <donofrio> even thought I'm 18.04?
[03:23] <Unit193> That's usually #xubuntu or #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <donofrio> thank you
[05:01] <flocculant> bluesabre krytarik - thanks peeps :)
[05:02] <flocculant> I killed my /etc/blah/blah/fix numlockforgodssake file now - just using the xubuntu one - not seen update yet though
[05:09] <flocculant> rebuilding iso to catch the update there
[05:39] <flocculant> seem to have ppa x-d-s being preferred here which is older I think
[05:40] <flocculant> anyway - enough thinking of that till later
[08:22] <slickymasterWork> knome, the reason why I didn't vote in all the submissions is pretyy much the same as pleia2's
[08:22] <slickymasterWork> lack of an opinion in most of them
[08:22] <slickymasterWork> only voted the ones I really did like
[08:22] <slickymasterWork> gues I'll have to down vote the rest now
[08:23] <slickymasterWork> s(gues/guess
[08:23] <slickymasterWork> also, sorry for not being able to attend the meeting yesterday but I'm again in Lisbon
[12:16] <Unit193> greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.8-1 uploaded by Jeremy Bicha (jbicha)
[17:22] <tracker8> hey
[17:23] <flocculant> hi tracker8 
[17:23] <tracker8> sorry to bother anyone but i'm new to linux and i just wanted to know if i'd rather download xubuntu 14.04 than 16.04 or 17.10 
[17:23] <flocculant> well 
[17:24] <flocculant> xubuntu 14.04 is no longer supported by us
[17:24] <tracker8> because i'm a bit skeptical to download releases after 2015
[17:25] <flocculant> Id' be inclined (if you want LTS) to install 17.10 - then when prompted to upgrade to 18.04 to do that - and then you can make it only look for LTS versions
[17:25] <flocculant> then I'm not able to help you
[17:25] <tracker8> ok thank you
[17:26] <tracker8> the reason why i am looking for xubuntu is because i want to run Guild Wars 2 through PlayOnLinux
[17:26] <tracker8> and a youtuber mentionned it was running fithout FPS drops under Xfce
[17:27] <flocculant> fine - but I'm not getting into some discussion about post 2015
[17:27] <tracker8> it's ok
[17:28] <tracker8> i just wanted to know if i download either 14.04 or 17.10 then upgrade to 18.04 that i would have no FPS drops running Guild Wars 2 through PlayOnLinux
[17:29] <flocculant> we don't support 14.04
[17:29] <tracker8> so i should download 17.10 right ?
[17:29] <flocculant> you can upgrade 17.10 to 18.04 - as far as playing games and fps issues I have no idea - don't play games
[17:30] <flocculant> tracker8: see above re 'inclined'
[17:32] <tracker8> one last question if you mind
[17:32] <tracker8> i selected a mirror and i see a 18.04 branch
[17:33] <tracker8> does it mean i can download 18.04 before release date ?
[17:33] <flocculant> you can - but it's still in testing
[17:33] <flocculant> won't be release until end of April
[17:34] <tracker8> thank you sir
[17:35] <flocculant> and if you decide to do that regardless - mirrors are likely out of date - it's updated daily :)
[17:35] <flocculant> no problem :)
[17:35] <tracker8> each release is an upgrade from the previous version ?
[17:35] <flocculant> more or less yea
[17:36] <tracker8> sweet
[17:36] <flocculant> LTS tend to be release every 2 years - with normal releases in between
[17:36] <tracker8> i see
[17:36] <tracker8> so i will just download 17.10
[17:36] <tracker8> and wait for the 18.04 release
[17:36] <flocculant> yup
[17:37] <tracker8> because i don't want any issue with it
[17:37] <tracker8> thank you so much for your help
[17:37] <flocculant> there is information in the Help pages - you can change it once you've got 18.04 to not update every 9 months
[17:38] <tracker8> yea i will go through the documentation today to see if i can learn step by step since i'm completely new to this world
[17:38] <flocculant> :)
[17:38] <flocculant> take it slow - don't randomly grab things from the internet
[17:39] <tracker8> yea that's the problem today with the rise of cyber threats
[17:39] <tracker8> i miss the good old days
[17:39] <tracker8> when you could use windows and not worry about anything
[17:39] <tracker8> now i'm forced to use foreign os but i will learn it step by step
[17:40] <flocculant> not what I meant tbh - don't read something that says 'do this for Ubuntu' - most of what you find is out of date
[17:40] <flocculant> anyway - I have to go now
[17:40] <tracker8> alright take care
[17:40] <flocculant> you too
[19:29] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-terminal 0.8.7.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-terminal-0-8-7-3-released-tp50871.html (by Igor Zakharov)
[19:31] <Unit193> bluesabre: ↑
[19:56] <flocculant> evening Unit193 
[19:58] <Unit193> Howdy, flocculant.
[20:45] <Unit193> BTW, doing -term.
[20:58] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1713343 can be killed.
[20:58] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1721976 what?
[21:23] <Unit193> xfce4-terminal 0.8.7.3-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[21:23] <Unit193> xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[21:23] <Unit193> xfce4-timer-plugin 1.7.0-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[21:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: BTW, specifically for you: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/0.8.7.3-0ubuntu1
[21:38] <Unit193> https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-power-manager/news/20180328T211231Z.html does look handy, specifically if one cares about appstream (I don't.)
[21:54] <Unit193> xfce4-indicator-plugin 2.3.4-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) (Closes: #893639)
[21:57] <ochosi> Unit193: would be nice to get xfpm patches upstream though
[21:57] <ochosi> i'm happy to review and integrate those
[21:57] <Unit193> ...Patches?
[22:00] <ochosi> i thought the appstream stuff was added as a patch
[22:00] <ochosi> i didn't look really tbh :>
[22:01] <Unit193> Ooooooooh, well sort of.
[22:02] <Unit193> https://sources.debian.org/src/xfce4-power-manager/1.4.4-4/debian/patches/01_fix-light-locker-schema-loading.patch/ is the only proper patch.
[22:05] <Unit193> Gah, anyway..
[22:05] <Unit193> ochosi: No active patches, just https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-team/desktop/xfce4-power-manager/blob/debian/master/debian/xfce4-power-manager-data.install
[22:06] <ochosi> ah ok
[22:06] <ochosi> hmm, everybody seems to use gitlab...
[22:06] <knome> hello
[22:06] <knome> are you suggesting we should as well?
[22:06] <knome> :P
[22:07] <Unit193> knome: Pagure!
[22:07] <knome> Unit193, go vote some wallpapers!
[22:07] <Unit193> ochosi: I use cgit/gitolite!
[22:10] <ochosi> knome: well maybe it's worth thinking about it again if it's not really a resource topic anymore
[22:10] <ochosi> but anyway, that belongs to a different channel...
[22:10] <ochosi> what's the state of the slideshow?
[22:10] <Unit193> ochosi: So fixing the location only, I believe.
[22:12] <knome> the slideshow is... wip
[22:12] <knome> i kind of forgot it
[22:12] <knome> :P
[22:12] <knome> so meh
[22:12] <ochosi> Unit193: mhm, i really haven't dealt with appstream/appdata for too long
[22:12] <knome> we'll need a freeze exception
[22:12] <ochosi> knome: what's the deadline? tonight?
[22:12] <knome> and not only that, we'll need to get it in ASAP
[22:12] <knome> oh wait
[22:12] <knome> yes, it's *today*
[22:12] <knome> not yesterday
[22:12] <knome> so yes, i think i can do it
[22:13] <knome> i'll try to build up some motivation to do it tonight, but no promises yet
[22:14] <ochosi> kewl
[22:14] <ochosi> would be nice to avoid the paperwork
[22:14] <knome> yes, though
[22:14] <knome> that's not the main issue
[22:14] <ochosi> and who knows if you'll have more time tomorrow
[22:14] <ochosi> time/motivation
[22:14] <ochosi> what has to be done actually?
[22:15] <ochosi> updating the background of the slideshow? updating the numbers?
[22:15] <knome> it's mostly finalizing some stuff
[22:15] <knome> it's almost ready
[22:15] <knome> and i think the bg needs a resivit too now that i know what kind of content/artwork we have
[22:15] <knome> then we need to obviously update the strings
[22:15] <knome> and the thing is more bothersome than the freeze paperwork is finding somebody to do the upload
[22:15] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:16] <knome> or did bluesabre score upload abilities for that package?
[22:16] <bluesabre> nope
[22:16] <knome> indeed, so that's the main thing we want to avoid -- having to bother somebody do the upload for us -- late
[22:17] <knome> *theoretically* i have a lot of time tomorrow
[22:17] <knome> but practically...
[22:18] <ochosi> hmm
[22:19] <knome> if you want to look at my branch and see how it looks in terms of artwork you might motivate me a bit :P
[22:21] <bluesabre> I'm not going to be of much use tonight, lots of running around to do
[22:21] <Unit193> That's Ok, I'm useful!
[22:21] <knome> yep, the usual chickenry
[22:21] <knome> :P
[22:21] <knome> i was specifically meaning that ochosi could look at it
[22:21] <knome> because artwork lead and all ;)
[22:23] <Unit193> Well I meant I packaged things, both in Debian and here.
[22:24] <knome> Unit193, of course you are useful
[22:34] <Unit193> Well, I mean I did something today Xubuntu related..
[22:36] <knome> :)
[22:37] <ochosi> night everyone!
[22:37] <ochosi> (and just so that i've said it publicly here too, i like the new slideshow and it's brief format)
[22:37] <knome> nighty ochosi :)
[22:56] <Unit193> ...Was I supposed to backport Debian's timer-pl to xubuntu-dev/staging?
[22:56] <Unit193> Wait, uh..
[22:56] <Unit193> experimental?  I don't know!
[22:59] <knome> let's push the slideshow...
[23:06] <knome> ochosi, slideshow pushed: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html