[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:07] <vespertatia> Good morning
[06:19] <lordievader> Hey vespertatia How are you doing?
[07:09] <lothar> hi
[07:22] <EdgyMC_69> How can I use my second monitor as a second display?
[07:30] <EdgyMC_69> Are there any AMD drivers for 17.10? The default ones don't really work for me.
[07:57] <Citral90> baraba: test
[09:30] <markus_d> moin
[09:31] <markus_d> I can access samba shares from dolphin (connected them using knetattach). But when I user gnome apps (keepass) I can't access the. What do I have to do?
[10:19] <zxq9> markus_d: Can you mount the samba shares instead?
[10:20] <zxq9> The filesystem type for the mount command is "cifs" iirc.
[10:21] <zxq9> Then you can access the filesystem like any other, as if it were local.
[10:21] <zxq9> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Mounting_samba_shares_from_a_unix_client
[10:21] <zxq9> `mount -t cifs //<server>/<share> <mountpoint>`
[10:22] <zxq9> (Dolphin *is* awfully convenient, though, and I cheat with it all the time.)
[10:23] <zxq9> I believe some gnome applications allow a url of the form: "smb://<server>/<share>" also. I don't know about keepass, though (I'm not even sure what that is).
[10:26] <markus_d> I am trying this. How would I specify my user in this command? Right now he assumes I want to connect as root
[10:29] <markus_d> This is not working: sudo mount -t cifs //markus.d@dc-01.sh.private windows_m
[10:29] <markus_d> Gives me: mount error: could not resolve address for markus.doebele@dc-01.sh.private: Unknown error
[10:29] <hateball> markus_d: you need to add the user as an option
[10:30] <hateball> markus_d: man mount.cifs
[10:30] <hateball> but for username it would be -o username=markus
[10:33] <markus_d> Okay. I try this: sudo mount -o username=markus.doebele -t cifs //dc-01.sh.private windows_m
[10:33] <markus_d> And I get: mount error(22): Invalid argument
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:38] <markus_d> In dolphin this works in the address line: smb://SH%5Cmarkus.doebele@dc-01.sh.private/
[10:38] <markus_d> I just love everything kde related ;)
[10:45] <markus_d> I get the same error when I write this in the fstab. I am lost here
[10:46] <markus_d> This is the example I use: //192.168.1.100/Tausch /media/austausch cifs username=otto,password=geheim,domain=Gruppe1 0 0
[10:46] <markus_d> Its from https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Client_cifs/
[10:46] <markus_d> Did something change?
[10:53] <markus_d> What the english docu say is also not working: //dc-01.sh.private  /home/markus/windows_m  cifs    user=markus.doebele,pass=temp,domain=MYDOMAIN 0 0
[11:07] <hateball> markus_d: you may need to specify smb protocol version
[11:07] <hateball> markus_d: as mount.cifs might default to 1.0 and that has been patched out from most things since wannacry
[11:08] <hateball> yep, seems so from reading the man-page
[11:08] <markus_d> I found it by trying out like everything. One needs to put the directory name behind the Network Name
[11:08] <hateball> oh
[11:09] <markus_d> smbclient gave me this error. So I tried the same in fstab. And it works
[11:16] <markus_d> Works like in charm in gnome apps now as well. I am happy for today ;)
[11:21] <markus_d> So if somebody else asks. This is how it works: //dc-01.sh.private/Customers  /home/markus/windows_kunden  cifs    user=markus.doebele,pass=mypassword,domain=MYWORKGROUP 0 0
[11:34] <zxq9> markus_d: That's the kind of thing I have to fiddle with about once every year or so, and forget how it works until I check some notes. ;-)
[11:35] <hateball> that's the reason I use things like nextcloud ;p
[11:40] <zxq9> Not an option in many environments.
[11:58] <hateball> zxq9: Then the environment has a design flaw, those can luckily be fixed :)
[12:04] <markus_d> Its a pitty there are still people using windows networks :(
[12:05] <zxq9> Indeed.
[12:05] <hateball> Well if there were only nice things in the world, we would have no need to progress
[12:05] <hateball> But this is better suited for #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:05] <zxq9> Also a pity about nextcloud's security and env architecture...
[12:05] <zxq9> Which is my point above.
[12:06] <zxq9> But, that's not anywhere near the final state of file sharing across privately managed services. Which is a great thing.
[12:06] <zxq9> Baby steps. :-)
 What is the problem with Dolphin
 Do you have certain things running when it occurs vs when you are not running those items
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:11] <kant> df
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:11] <kant> sd
[13:11] <kant> fh
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:49] <zxq9> I have an Ubuntu 16.04 on which I've installed Kubuntu alongside Unity (or whatever the default Ubuntu DE is) and on that particular one I've had Dolphin randomly crash as described by Dallas. Very spotty, but occasionally it crashes.
[13:50] <zxq9> My Kubuntu 16.04 installed straight from a Kubuntu image, though, doesn't seem to have that problem. Mystery.
[13:51] <zxq9> The crashy one is on Intel, the stable one is on AMD. With all the microcode wonkiness that has come out lately it wouldn't entirely shock me if that has something to do with it. Or that there is some weird interaction with remaining unused Ubuntu bits. Or whatever.
[13:52] <zxq9> No way to tell for sure. But it doesn't bother me enough to really dig in. I'm working on other development stuff right now anyway. :-/
[13:52] <lordievader> zxq9: Does drkonqi popup, the debug dialog? (If that is still a thing)
[13:52] <zxq9> Something like that pops up. I forget the name, but yes, there is a little crash reporter guy.
[13:53] <zxq9> I've sent some reports a while back. Usually I just silence it. I don't really have time to dig into it. I imagine occasional FM crashes on 16.04 isn't a big maintenance priority.
[13:54] <lordievader> How does the utility rate the information it has on the crash?
[13:54] <zxq9> I spend most of my time on that particular system buried in kmail or vim. So its just one of those "works good enough for me" sort of things.
[13:54] <zxq9> I don't recall. I'll give it another whirl when it happens again. I believe I needed some dev packages for debugging info before it had enough to submit a proper report.
[13:56] <zxq9> I suppose I could try to induce a crash right now. It usually happens when I was doing more than one thing at a time. Like having two or more dolphin windows open, decompressing an archive in one while copying between two others or something.
[13:56] <zxq9> I think this (super crappy) system has only one memory channel, so it could just be timing out somewhere thinking it is starved for data during a large transfer or file operation.
[13:57] <zxq9> Which would explain why I don't see it on the (dramatically more capable) AMD system.
[13:58] <zxq9> I would imagine that a blocking timeout would look nicer than a crash, though. I haven't messed with Qt for a while, but I remember it having nicer timeout exceptions than that.
[13:58] <lordievader> Hmm, sounds like a hard problem to debug.
[14:00] <zxq9> No idea. Might be something really trivial. Would have to look at the crash dump to know.
[14:00] <zxq9> The symptoms just feel peculiar being on this particular hardware with slow, single-channel memory.
[14:01] <zxq9> Anyway, I wanted to answer back to the guy chatting via the IrcsomeBot, but I don't know how to flag him, being a blank name.
[14:01] <zxq9> Is IrcsomeBot coming in from a Slack channel or something?
[14:02] <zxq9> Different network like OFTC?
[14:07] <lordievader> IIrcsomeBot is a Telegram bot.
[14:08] <zxq9> Ah.
[14:09] <zxq9> So many ways to chat these days. Times sure have changed!
[14:10] <zxq9> Btw, just for general geek interest, there is a spacewalk happening right now on the ISS if anyone is curious: https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
[14:11] <Sken> Suppppppp
[14:12] <zxq9> suppppppppper?
[14:43] <Sken> zxq9 ofcourse !
[14:44] <zxq9> Always a good plan. But it is bed time. :-)
[14:44] <zxq9> o/
[15:11] <ivantv> does kubuntu look like manjaro?
[15:35] <MichaH> @ivantv: Yes, kubuntu looks similar to manjaro, if you have manjaro with KDE-desktop. Otherwise will look and behave different. Please notice, that manjaro is a rolling release and that kubuntu s not. Kubuntu is going to publish new LTS-version in about a month.
[15:37] <ivantv> oh ok
[15:37] <ivantv> yes I have manjaro with kde plasma
[15:38] <ivantv> and I love how it looks so I was hoping kubuntu looks the same, Im downloading it atm
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ivantv, yes you can make any OS using KDE/plasma look exactly like another using the same widgets,themes and colours
[15:42] <ivantv> awesome, thank oyu
[15:42] <ivantv> you
[15:43] <MichaH_> @ivantv: Good luck. Which version are you downloading? 16.04, 17.10 or 18.04?
[15:44] <ivantv> 17.10
[15:44] <ivantv> I didnt know there was a 18.04
[15:44] <ivantv> is that experimental?
[15:45] <ivantv> ah I just saw in the page that it is a beta
[15:45] <ivantv> I'll stick to the 17.10 for now
[15:45] <MichaH_> @ivantv: 17.10 is good choice for now, I'm using it actually. And it will allow you to upgrade later to 18.04, which is the upcoming LTS-release.
[16:25] <yuriy_> so what's about kubuntu 18.04? will it win win10?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Bionic 18.04 has nothing to do with competing with W10
[16:28] <yuriy_> why?
[16:29] <yuriy_> i'm waiting strong desktop linux
[16:29] <BluesKaj> there is no why
[16:30] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[16:30] <BluesKaj> yuriy_,^
[16:31] <yuriy_> i don't use win for a long time (near 10 years), but still nostalgic for the user experience
[16:32] <yuriy_> i'm a KDE user for a long time
[16:35] <yuriy_> maybe will move mac soon. it's unix based
[16:35] <yuriy_> *to
[16:36] <BluesKaj> yuriy_, mac is BSD based , not linux
[16:39] <yuriy_> bsd is unix i know
[16:40] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with KDE connect on a regular basis. My mobile phone doesn't appear in Dolphins' devices-list after it got connected. So I can't access the files (at least I don't know how else I would do it).
[16:41] <BluesKaj> BSD is not Linux ...but this is an offtopic discussion, so we should stop here and join #kubuntu-offtopic chat
[16:42] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, make sure your phone is paired with said computer
[16:43] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: It is. I usually open KDE connect settings and send a ping.
[16:44] <yuriy_> maybe open-source will come soon with come desktop soon...
[16:44] <yuriy_> *some
[16:58] <ajyotirmay> how can I debug graphical issues on Kubuntu?
[18:11] <elichai2> Hey, I have Kubuntu 17.10 and I connected my laptop to a type C dock with audio plug and now the sound doesn't work(disconnected from the dock)
[18:11] <elichai2> I tried reinstalling pulseaudio and alsa and it didn't work
[18:45] <Sken> hey guys, i saw on the kubuntu website, there is an app for facebook messenger, is still working or not?
[18:46] <jubo2> Hiya. Got a weird problem on one Kubuntu machine. Suddenly the Wifi disconnected and I cannot activate the WiFi at all.. trying to click on the checkbox to activate it does nothing. The device does not have a physical airplane switch
[18:47] <obert_> check if there's a wifi password set jubo2
[18:47] <jubo2> obert_: what do you mean?
[18:47] <obert_> in the network setting
[18:47] <obert_> you need to insert a wifi password in order to connect to internet, isn't it?
[18:48] <obert_> one time I rebooted and my wifi password disappeared
[18:48] <obert_> so I had to reinsert it
[18:48] <jubo2> I cannot click on the checkbox to activate the WiFi at all .. only after that I could get to selecting wifi to connect to
[18:50] <jubo2> obert_: that is not the problem
[18:51] <jubo2> Problem is that when clicking from the default panel the connectivity symbol it opens up but I cannot check the checkbox to activate the WiFi
[18:51] <jubo2> This problem just appeared suddenly
[18:51] <obert_> ah I don't know then
[18:54] <Sken> anyone know about the fbmessenger app on kubuntu if its still work? , im not able to run it
[18:55] <jubo2> Ok. Our bad.. there was a touch-switch for deactivating the radio. Problem solved
[19:36] <jubo2> Got another problem on another machine
[19:37] <jubo2> KDEWallet suddenly started asking for a password even if the password was never set
[19:39] <jubo2> so when I open the settings for KDEWallet and unchecked "Enable the KDE wallet subsystem" and then re-enable it and try to add a new wallet to be a default wallet (since we don't know the password for the old default) the new wallet is never added
[20:13] <jubo2> ok.. managed to randomly work around it