[01:16] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Can u use the sentio superbook as a dock for Ubuntu phone
 @Mark Mullins, Looking at it now......
 @Mark Mullins, Nope sorry. If you'll look near the bottom, it says that when you plug it in it launches their app and that's what puts the display on the laptop. It's meant for the Andromium launcher. I tried it a while ago and I liked it, it was just way too small for my screen.  … Anyway, no you cannot use it with UT unless.
[01:50] <ubptgbot> ...SOMEHOW....you can get the launcher with Anbox which wouldn't be of much use anyway because it would probably only detect Android apps.  … Your best bet for an equivalent would be a portable monitor and a bluetooth keyboard with a built in touchpad which may or may not work with UT; i don't know anyone that's used one of those.
 And even if you did get the launcher, which Anbox and AppArmour, it MIGHT not have access to that kind of peripherals unless you enable dev mode. I don't know how far apparmor and Anbox goes for sandboxing apps.
 *with Anbox and AppArmour....
 And the page does make sure to specify Android, as well
[01:58] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> How bout nexdock
 I'll check when I get out of the shower
 @Mark Mullins, I'm sorry; I completely forgot to. I'm looking at it now
 @Mark Mullins, D**n. I don't know about the keyboard or the USB-C but with the office module and its HDMI port, I know it'd work. I just signed up for the notify me thing. Thanks!
[02:59] <ubptgbot> vlad was added by: vlad
 @vlad, You caught me just as I was going to bed! Welcome to the Supergroup! Check out the link below to get you started! Most of us are asleep about now but you can check back in a couple of hours and I'm sure someone will be up! Have a good night/morning/afternoon! … https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @amolith, You had your phone in the shower with you? Young people today...!! ;)
[07:54] <ubptgbot> JuanFebles was added by: JuanFebles
 @JuanFebles, Hi Juan, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 There's also a Spanish group
 Thanks!!!
 hej, is in UT upstart or systemd main init? What is with 18.04?
 hmm first time i looked at the windows version. didn't know it was a standalone exe.
 i ran it from command prompt to see if there is any verbous chatter, but none. also if it supports flags, i don't know which ones🤔
 (Photo, 369x169) https://irc.ubports.com/rj3Vhh5s.png dunno?
 help flag should be /?
 help flag should be '/?'
 help flag should be `/?`
 feedback loop detected
 but that does nothing
 Hello Ubuntu Touch users
 Is there a Ubuntu Touch ROM for Lenovo K6 Power?
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: Though the social justice game thing might have done that for me a while ago
 @advocatux, apparently. TG was slow to refresh and i wasn't allowed to edit, resulting in me deleting my post, but the delete fails
 @AmandeepSinghMatharu, hello, a list of supported devices can be found here
 http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/
 if you feel up to the task of porting Ubuntu Touch to the Lenovo K6 Power, you can start here: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @Chrillepille, Well that was an unnecessary forwarding
 @Mark Mullins, It should theoretically work, depending on what technology is actually used in it (I can't find exact specs)
 hmm, looks like it might use DisplayLink
[13:21] <ubptgbot> pandutv was added by: pandutv
 @pandutv, Welcome! Take a look at the link below to get you started! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @YougoChats, Yep Telegram servers have suffered three or four hours of downtime this morning
 https://v-play.net/apps/
 @Ismaelbonato, contextless pasting of links is not very helpful
 Sorry wrong telegram chanel
 there are so much chanels sometimes I get lost.
 @Ismaelbonato, for that, you can give me a high five.  Rodney also likes it
 but think of all our close relationships now! ;)
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/5CAQnAZo.mp4
 @wayneoutthere, Kkkkkk
 Just imagine conversation about different topics among several people. Total confusion!
 @Ismaelbonato, I know that feel
 @milkor73, it's amazing how we've ever survived as a species
 I can not, but we are still here 😁
 Imagine
 @dohbee, Hahhahahahah
 (Photo, 1024x768) https://irc.ubports.com/r6BGKlZz.png Gessing game: who is it ?
 @libremax, Off Topic?
 Moderatly
 @libremax, Nice
 Is ubuntu touch stable enough for daily use on Nexus 5??
 @Getrooted009, Yes, I think people have been doing that for years.
 @alan_griffiths, Should i install
 It on my primary device
 ??
 Yeah
[15:43] <ubptgbot> <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> Yes, you could
 @Getrooted009, If and only if you want it on your primary device.
 I have it on my primary, secondary and tertiary devices
 If only 500 of us like, review, and suggest UT as an alternative to Android and iOS, it would be a tremendous help to get UT to the masses!
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: UBPORTS NEEDS YOUR HELP WITH A COUPLE OF SUPER-EASY TASKS! … When people search 'alternative to android' or 'alternative to iOS' in a search engine, we really want them to find Ubuntu Touch and our project.  Most search results are pointing people to the Alternativeto.net website.  Thankfully we
[15:49] <ubptgbot> now have an active page.  We are asking for 4 simple tasks: … 1.  Go to our page and click the 'like' button (if you like it)  … https://alternativeto.net/software/ubuntu-touch-1/reviews/ … 2. Give it a review!  … 3. Go to the Android page and suggest UBports Ubuntu Touch (NOT the dead Canonical one!) as an alternative to Android. … https://alterna
[15:49] <ubptgbot> tiveto.net/software/android/ … 4. Go to the iOS page and suggest UBports as alternativeto iOS  … https://alternativeto.net/software/ios/ … These 4  easy tasks will take about 2 minutes total and really help people find UBports Ubuntu Touch and bring in more excited people into the community. … Thanks for your help!  We appreciate it! … #ubports
 If you have a weblink alternative of android then send me i will share that on social media to get more attention of people on Ubuntu touch
 @Devrahul, You could use this: … https://alternativeto.net/software/ubuntu-touch-1/
 I can't find UT as alternative to both android and ios, but if I try to add ut as new alternative it says it is already... So how can I say UT is the best alternative IMO?
 @amolith, I think @wayneoutthere asked someone else previously to not forward the large news posts from the news channel to here
 @dohbee, He asked me to
 @Getrooted009, That's a decision you'll have to make based on your needs and ability to live with any issues, and without certain apps
 @amolith, he's a naughty naughty boy then
 @dohbee, 😅
 @mymike00, I think it has to be approved first. You could go to the Ubuntu Touch page, like it, and review it
 @mymike00, Scroll down that page and click "Load more apps"
[16:51] <ubptgbot> Benfirdouse was added by: Benfirdouse
[16:52] <ubptgbot> 神楽坂 美紀 was added by: 神楽坂 美紀
 @amolith, Already done!
 @advocatux, I can't see UT there... But in the iOS page it was asking me if UT should be an alternative, and I said yes...
 @mymike00, You find it when using the filter.
 @mymike00, Look on the right side of the page. There you can sort the alternatives to recently added. It will show up then (for me at least)
 On PC or also on mobile? I'm on the phone atm...
 Might be different because of screen size limitations. I’m looking at the desktop version of the site anyways
 @jonny, Ok, found it with filters, thanks!
 @mymike00, I would say it's not, because you can't install it on iPhones/iPads
 i am unable to insatl ubports on my n5
 If iOS is an alternative to android, I’d say meh
 using ubports installer
 Hello I’ve been trying to install Ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 but the installer just tells me I should connect my device with an usb cable. But with fastboot device my Mac should recognise it
 It just cuz I need to wait a little bit?
 From the log it shows “wait for device”
 @Getrooted009 and @pandutv, there is a welcome room where competent people help with such problems. Do you know how to get there?
 it detected my device in fastboot
 flashed the recovery
 but it didnt detect device in recovery
 😔😔😔😔
 @dohbee, You're right, but when someone looks for an alternative for a mobile os, usually he looks for a new phone. … It's a wider meaning of alternative: I interpret it as another mobile os, not depending on the same phone...
 @mymike00, I don't think that's really what alternativeto is going after though
[18:01] <ubptgbot> salehoukiki was added by: salehoukiki
 Hello oukiki saleh, Welcome! Take a look at the link below to get you started! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @dohbee, It's the first time I use that site so idk. But in that case, could there be any alternative to iOS? Anyway, That page has a long list of Android derivates so why not adding UT?
 it's more like "alternative hardware" at that point though
 @mymike00, i mean do what you want there. it's not my site. i was just stating what i think. it feels a bit like misinformation to me, and i don't like that. i guess if a bunch of people come in asking how to install ut on their iPhones though, we'll know if it matters :)
 @libremax, Thanks, I'm glad to join you, and also happy to know that project ubuntu phone didn't die after being abandoned by canonical
 @Getrooted009 & @pandutv please come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus where we can help you with installation problems
 That's the link for UB Welcome & Install
[18:51] <ubptgbot> Sanjay_sakya was added by: Sanjay_sakya
 Can i flash ubuntu on mi5
 And is there any way i can port it for my device ?
 @pandutv, Is it 2012 or 2013?
 if a port gets built you could flash it yet. i don't think there is a port for that device yet, but i think there were a few people looking at it
 @Sanjay_sakya, No for now. This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 @Sanjay_sakya, This way https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 Is this project still live, because in recent days much of the development hasn'tbeen seen. Neither extra devices hasbeen added.
 @Sanjay_sakya, Very much so.
 @Sanjay_sakya, Alive and kicking! The development is at full speed, focused in the 16.04 transition
 @Sanjay_sakya, there's a lot more to building a phone OS than having more devices it runs on
 Thanks...i m looking forward to learn  halium porting guide.
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <demokrit atomos> hello everyone, quick question about the Ubports Installer and 16.04: IS there a way to get more detailed debug messages while it's working?
[19:07] <ubptgbot> <demokrit atomos> I've flashed 16.04 over 15.04 (N4 - mako) but didn't wipe and everything is fine, but all the 15.04 Apps are stil installed and i wanted to do a clean flashing of 16.04 before reporting any bugs since i thought the remaining stuff could make bug confirming harder
[19:08] <ubptgbot> <demokrit atomos> however the UBports installer detected the N4, i set it to 16.04 + wipe and started and now it says "please connect your device with USB cable" (same cable i used before, Ubuntu in background is detecting it and i can see my N4 in nautilus from PC)
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <demokrit atomos> btw, i did the same thing as before flashing from 15.04 to 16.04. Should i file a bug for the installer that it seems to not be able to flash over an existing 16.04 or has anyone else experienced/tried this and can confirm this behaviour?
 demokrit come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 @dohbee, he's more than naughty.. … but... if everyone here would subscribe to the news channel then this discussion is no longer needed (hint, hint people).  Here is the subscribe link please/thanks: https://t.me/ubports_news
 @amolith, i wonder if the problem is that when the page was started it listed itself as 'running on android' and therefore, perhaps, the algorithms of the site prevent it from being an alternative to Android?  That was my only guess
 @dohbee, that.. is interesting point however, the idea is that it is an alternative to iOS if you are trying to bin your fruit phone and escape from jail
 @dohbee, that's what search engines do with it though, so this is valid and fair.
 Alternative.to doesn't seem to be wildly precise anyway
 @wayneoutthere, that is called alternative hardware. just because you're required to use a different OS, doesn't make the OS the alternative bit.
 @Stereofont, of course not. it's dependent on humans inserting data
 @dohbee, Is it? My impression was algorithms
 @Stereofont, well on what data? algorithms without data are pretty useless
[19:30] <ubptgbot> Deepak Pandey was added by: Deepak Pandey
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <Deepak Pandey> Fwd from Deepak Pandey: Hi all I'm using windows 10 pro and have nexus 5 want to use ubuntu touch can anyone help me plz.
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <Deepak Pandey> Fwd from Deepak Pandey: ?
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <Deepak Pandey> Fwd from Deepak Pandey: Coz using ubport I'm facing issues it's asking me to install adb even i have installed abd already.
[19:31] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> Hi
 @Deepak Pandey, Please come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 We can help you there
 What is a partition name in hammerhead for anbox Install
 ?
 Anbox does not work on the Nexus 5.
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Us there any social apps
 You can search open-store.io to find available apps
 i pointed him there already
[20:59] <ubptgbot> ilo yo was added by: ilo yo
[21:00] <ubptgbot> <ilo yo> Is there a possibility to install Ubuntu on the Galaxy S6?
 Not for now; the list of supported devices is at http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 hey guys i forget it usb otg supported on uphone?
 @Fuseteam, yes, but driver support is limited
 how limited?
 the kernel doesn't have all possible drivers compiled in, because it's a phone
 you _might_ be able to compile a driver as a module for that kernel version and get it to load, but i don't recall if module support is enabled or not
 [Edit] you might be able to compile a driver as a module for that kernel version and get it to load, but i don't recall if module support is enabled or not
 hmhm interesting
 Well you can always enable them
 ooooor if it goes bad, you somentimes have to backport a driver
 but please don't do this because EOL kernels are bad in handling
 well you might have to build a custom kernel
 Well didn't you build a custom kernel when doing halium already?
 it's less about "backporting a driver" and more about how the kernel on the device is built
 depends what you call custom
 custom as in not what is installed on your device already
 custom is everything that differs from stock sources even by single bit
 don't be a pedant
 I just don't get the glossary here
 What is a custom kernel then
 "Custom kernel" being the one that is not shipped with Ubuntu Touch
 You should be able to find your kernel source by checking the UBports GitHub org for its codename
 Ah
 But you'd also need to build a new Android image to get kernel modules automatically mounted and inserted
 froom that viewpoint
 Kay
 @K31j0, changing the options and re-building specifically for your own device, versus the kernel that comes in the image for your device
 and the ut images on the image server currently don't use halium, i don't think
 I thought about the custom being other than supplied by the vendor, but here it's every other kernel that's not built agains UT's upstream defconfig
 That's custom from their viewpoint, sure
 @K31j0, yes, ubports is the vendor here.
 Wondering whether I can build Lineage 14.1 against their shinano sources, can't see that platform being officially supported
 looks up codename
 Boy I hate Android codenames.
 Xperia 2012 series
 I have Xperia Z2
 Sony's codenames aren't that bad
 but I'm bad at remembering some of the japanese words
 codename for Z2 is sirius
 So you end up with common repo for platform and then device-specific one
 Hmm. That's neat enough
 still better than Motorola which has it after the SoC production code, that's harder to remember
 but Motorola has easier kernels to take care of
 If only they could do 64-bit
 but to this day I have a mindfuck how a camera can crash the whole OS, this happens randomly on my Sailfish port to my X Play and I can't get around to debug that
 Will try to build that LOS14.1 for my Z2 though
 If that doesn't work, I give up, because nobody will help me in porting Android
 also, I'm too pissed with Android to debug it myself
 And I don't believe LOS crew will help me, because they have their own problems
 And the only supported Xperias now are either 64-bit or completly unrelated to my hardware
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> What's eta on 16.04 stable
 City: null … Temperature: 0°C … Description: Few clouds … Wind: 5,4 km/h … Sunrise: 06:58 … Sunset: 19:51
 Roughly when it's ready. You can check the milestones for the progress: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones
[23:43] <ubptgbot> Marssolinha was added by: Marssolinha
 @Marssolinha, Welcome Mauro! Check out this linkt to get you started! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @Marssolinha, [Edit] Welcome Mauro! Check out this link to get you started! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 Thankful