[05:16] <Trevinho> duflu: hey, could you pull --rebase origin master https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25? So I can merge it.
[05:16] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 25 in mutter "renderer-native: Swap then await earlier flips." (comments: 5) [Opened]
[05:16] <Trevinho> I mean, I could even cherry-pick, but so I can use gitlab better
[05:17]  * duflu looks
[05:18] <duflu> Trevinho, "Ready to be merged automatically" is wrong then?
[05:18] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah, since upstream wants to keep the linear history there
[05:18] <Trevinho> so that would imply me to use git merge...
[05:18] <Trevinho> and I don't want to
[05:19] <duflu> Trevinho, oh linear as in they want their commit dates in order?
[05:19] <Trevinho> I could cherry pick your commit too, but then not sure if gitlab will detect it
[05:19] <duflu> Yeah that's something I've only just noticed in projects recently
[05:19] <Trevinho> yeah
[05:19] <Trevinho> in next gitlab version it will be possible to do it without  having to do this
[05:19] <Trevinho> (when it rebases with no conflicts)
[05:19] <duflu> OK, but also afk
[05:20] <Trevinho> duflu: oh, ok... well when you've a sec do it and ping me so I can upstream it
[05:20] <Trevinho> duflu: and I guess you want that on gnome-3-28 too, right?
[05:29] <duflu> Trevinho, yeah it was all developed against 3.26 so I would be sad to have to wait for 3.30 for everyone to get the benefits
[05:29] <Trevinho> duflu: ok, I can manage that
[05:29] <Trevinho> duflu: as for the other branches though I think we need some upstream dev to ack them too
[05:30] <Trevinho> duflu: while I think we can do selection of cherry-picks we want to include in ubuntu by patches
[05:31] <duflu> Plus I had something bigger and better in mind for 3.30 that will supersede the flip/swap change
[05:31] <duflu> -had +have
[05:31] <Trevinho> good
[05:31] <Trevinho> duflu: we can discuss better that in details maybe before the performance hackfest so I can bring your voice bette
[05:31] <Trevinho> r
[05:32] <duflu> Trevinho, yeah I was going to make sure you have a list of issues to refer to. When is that?
[05:36] <duflu> Trevinho, that rebase didn't change my date...
[05:37] <Trevinho> duflu: 3rd week of may
[05:37] <Trevinho> no the date is ok
[05:37] <Trevinho> it's not about that, it's just that there should no merge-commits around
[05:37] <Trevinho> so the history should have not branches... when you use git graph everything is linear...
[05:38] <duflu> Trevinho, OK. Done.
[05:40] <duflu> That will create a conflict in my other work, but my other work is not ready for 3.28
[05:41] <Trevinho> duflu: well, just pull --rebase this-branch in other work
[05:41] <Trevinho> duflu: aaaand cherry-picked too https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commits/gnome-3-28
[05:41] <duflu> Trevinho, thanks. Should I rebase the other MP?
[05:42] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah, that works bettre
[05:42] <Trevinho> it's even true that if nobody will ack it, you might have to do it anyway
[05:42] <Trevinho> as soon another commit reaches master
[05:42] <duflu> Just updating Trello too
[05:47] <duflu> Trevinho, when you say "way better", I agree but don't think you could get that from reading the code. Did you run it too?
[05:47] <duflu> Done: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26
[05:47] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 26 in mutter "clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals" (comments: 3) [Opened]
[05:48] <Trevinho> yeah, I've tested that too. But also code makes sense to me.
[05:50] <duflu> Trevinho, That one was important to me. In my future work for 3.30 I made mutter so fast that the jittery clock was visible onscreen when running glmark2.
[05:50] <duflu> So fixing the clock had to come first
[05:54] <duflu> ... because glmark2 is a benchmark it runs unthrottled at an arbitrarily high frame rate. So if the compositor is failing to sample those frames at a steady interval then you can see uneven movement
[05:55] <duflu> For apps that stick to 60Hz you'd never see a problem, I think
[06:31] <c-lobrano> Trevinho: Hi, sorry, yesterday I missed your message. About https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/28 I started doing something yesterday
[06:31] <ubot5-ng> CanonicalLtd bug 28 in desktop-design "Nautilus path bar buttons are inconsistent" (comments: 13) [Community Team, Open]
[06:32] <Trevinho> c-lobrano: it was late time for you I guess, no worries
[06:32] <Trevinho> c-lobrano: and thanks :)
[06:32] <c-lobrano> it was kind of working on gtkinspector and not on real css, so I should take a look again :)
[06:33] <c-lobrano> Trevinho: it's a pleasure :)
[06:36] <Trevinho> c-lobrano: :)
[06:37] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:37] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[06:40] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:41] <oSoMoN> buenos días Trevinho, good afternoon duflu
[06:46] <Trevinho> :)
[06:46] <Trevinho> and actually... Good night all :-D
[06:48] <c-lobrano> :D
[06:48] <c-lobrano> morning all
[06:51] <oSoMoN> hi c-lobrano
[06:56]  * duflu waves generally
[07:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:05] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:05] <oSoMoN> bonjour seb128
[07:06] <seb128> hey duflu oSoMoN, how are you?
[07:06] <oSoMoN> very good, you?
[07:06] <duflu> seb128, good. You?
[07:07] <seb128> I'm good thanks, I had a good uninterrupted night which is nice, then up early but it's fine ... and it's sunny
[07:07] <seb128> way to get a good productive day before the long w.e :)
[07:07] <seb128> oSoMoN, is tomorrow off in Spain?
[07:07] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, and so is Monday
[07:08] <seb128> right, I think monday is in most countries, friday less so
[07:08] <oSoMoN> a looong week-end
[07:08] <seb128> like not in "rest of France" :p
[07:08] <oSoMoN> I'm off to the French Pyrenees tonight, for a couple of days
[07:08] <seb128> ah, nice, enjoy!
[07:09] <jibel> morning
[07:09] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:10] <seb128> hey jibel
[07:14] <duflu> Hi jibel
[07:14] <duflu> And morning didrocks
[07:14] <didrocks> good morning
[07:14] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:15] <seb128> lut didrocks
[07:15] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:19] <duflu> 'lut
[07:19] <duflu> 'lo
[07:19] <duflu> 'la
[07:20] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:30] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:02] <jibel> didrocks, salut
[08:03] <jibel> didrocks, while reviewing ubiquity yesterday I noticed that telemetry data collected for kubuntu is not great. Several pages have the same name https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2T3yzMDtVh/
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:03] <jibel> didrocks, is it something to fix on their side?
[08:03] <jibel> hi Laney
[08:04] <Laney> moin jibel
[08:05] <didrocks> jibel: yes, it's basically the tab name in the step they are using
[08:05] <didrocks> jibel: the issue is that it can be quite an impact, I saw some code relying on those names
[08:05] <didrocks> so didn't dare touching it
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:06] <didrocks> a little bit like the "partman" steps on our sides
[08:06] <didrocks> side*
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you today?
[08:13] <willcooke> oops.  Hi all
[08:13] <Laney> hey didrocks seb128
[08:13] <Laney> seb128: good, sun is out!
[08:13] <Laney> 4 day weekend and the sweet peas are growing
[08:13] <Laney> YEAH
[08:14] <Laney> some identical piece of spam keeps getting through to me though
[08:14] <willcooke> :)
[08:14] <Laney> what about you?
[08:14] <duflu> Morning Laney, willcooke
[08:14] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[08:14] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[08:15] <Laney> hey duflu oSoMoN willcooke too!
[08:15] <Laney> what's going on
[08:16] <Laney> jbicha: not really, if everyone's happy I'm happy - maybe acheronuk or tsimonq2 could comment to confirm (it seems to be merged now but for the upload)
[08:17] <willcooke> I've had an email from IS about a new version of the Facebook API, which we must have used in U-O-A at some point.  Given that it's pretty much dead on 16.04, does anyone think we need to do anything with that information?
[08:17] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:18] <seb128> willcooke, well, 16.04 is still the current LTS and use U-O-A...
[08:18] <seb128> shotwell there can upload photos to facebook through that iirc
[08:19] <seb128> but unsure why IS is concerned about that? do they own the api key or a service?
[08:19] <willcooke> ah, so something might still be using it then
[08:19] <willcooke> I guess they own the API registration, so they get all the emails
[08:19] <seb128> I though we had an API key and that uoa was directly handling the auth
[08:19] <seb128> ah
[08:19] <seb128> did they say if the API in use is going to be removed and when?
[08:19] <seb128> or stop workling?
[08:19] <seb128> -l
[08:20] <acheronuk> Laney jbicha: I was going to do a quick check using Jeremy's PPA build this morning, but it all looked sane enough
[08:20] <willcooke> The email is very sparse, the only link is this: https://developers.facebook.com/tools/api_versioning/
[08:20] <willcooke> It looks like it's "just" a new version
[08:20] <Laney> acheronuk: ok, pls comment to say so
[08:20] <Laney> then someone can upload
[08:20] <willcooke> I'll put it on the backlog for next cycle, I dont think we're going to look at it for a few weeks at least
[08:21] <seb128> willcooke, right, ideally after the LTS is out, but we might need to look sooner if something the current LTS is using stops working
[08:26] <andyrock> hey hey
[08:26] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[08:26] <andyrock> seb128: soooo for ubuntu-welcome and livepatch I'm almost done
[08:27] <seb128> nice!
[08:27] <andyrock> the only problem is the lack of design for error handling
[08:27] <seb128> well, that can come as "bugfixing"
[08:27] <andyrock> I've also added a meta polkit action to ask the password just one
[08:28] <andyrock> seb128: for error handling I commented on the shared doc
[08:28] <seb128> k
[08:31] <seb128> ups
[08:31] <seb128> andyrock, sorry, close tab by error, so yeah let's see what design says but I don't think that should stop the feature to land
[08:31] <seb128> better handling of errors or nicer UI can come later
[08:32] <andyrock> kk, I'll just print warnings
[08:34] <andyrock> it would be nice to get the gnome-initial-setup network page too
[08:35] <andyrock> we get it for free
[08:40] <seb128> we are not doing more work this cycle! :)
[08:40] <seb128> though it might make sense from the perspective of needing internet access to auth
[08:41] <seb128> I think we should have a look at doing that for .1 if that turns out to be an issue
[08:41] <seb128> willcooke, ^ thoughts?
[08:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1748761 and merge that translation?
[08:44] <jibel> willcooke, I think you'll need a UIFe for bug 1759601
[08:44] <jibel> there is a string change in the usc slide
[08:45] <jibel> willcooke, other than that, reviewed, tested and it's fine.
[08:49] <willcooke> seb128, andyrock - let's not make any more changes at this stage.  Land what we've got.
[08:49] <seb128> willcooke, +1
[08:50] <willcooke> jibel, thanks, I will change that bug in to a UIFe
[09:53] <jbicha> willcooke: I think your slideshow change reads a bit better if you add a comma after Photography
[09:54] <jbicha> complicated series :|
[09:54] <jbicha> good morning
[10:06] <willcooke> hey jbicha
[10:08] <willcooke> not sure.  Yes, probably.  Who's best at English, certainly not me.  Laney perhaps, have an opinion?
[10:08] <willcooke> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/revision/814
[10:08] <willcooke> usc.html
[10:09] <Laney> all the commas
[10:10] <Laney> probably needs a semicolon or something... mpt?
[10:10] <Laney> “Say goodbye to searching the web for new software. With access to the Snap Store and the Ubuntu software archive, you can find and install new apps with ease. Just type in what you’re looking for, or explore categories such as Games, Graphics & Photography and Productivity, alongside helpful reviews from other users.”
[10:12] <mpt> Everyone on Team Oxford Comma, this right here ^ is an example of a need for it
[10:15] <willcooke> :)
[10:16] <willcooke> mpt so... “Say goodbye to searching the web for new software. With access to the Snap Store and the Ubuntu software archive, you can find and install new apps with ease. Just type in what you’re looking for, or explore categories such as Games, Graphics & Photography**,** and Productivity, alongside helpful reviews from other users.”
[10:17] <mpt> Yep. (You could also lessen the issue by putting Graphics & Photography first in the list, but you may not want to, if it’s not as exciting as Games.)
[10:17] <willcooke> thanks mpt
[10:18] <willcooke> I think moving it is fine
[10:19] <jbicha> our friends in Kubuntu used this string in the installer:
[10:19] <jbicha> "Web browser, utilities, office software, KDE PIM suite plus additional internet applications and media players."
[10:20] <jbicha> because they wanted "additional" to refer to both the final items
[10:20] <willcooke> those categories above match what you see in the associated screenshot and GNOME Software though
[10:20] <jibel> willcooke, wouldn't this need a comma too before the "and": "With advanced accessibility tools and options to change language, colour scheme and text size, Ubuntu makes computing easy – whoever and wherever you are" ?
[10:20] <jibel> I think we need the same style in all the slides
[10:20] <willcooke> don't think so jibel
[10:21] <jibel> why, isn't it a series?
[10:21] <jbicha> maybe Kubuntu could use a comma after "suite" too, but not worth changing for 18.04 now IMO
[10:21] <jibel> series of options
[10:21] <mpt> Somewhere out there, someone cancels their Ubuntu installation because one step of the slideshow uses Oxford comma while another doesn’t
[10:21] <mpt> “I AM OUTRAGED”
[10:21] <willcooke> you know it's true
[10:22] <jbicha> jibel: that comma is sort of optional in English :|
[10:22] <willcooke> if we go with the option of moving Graphics & Photography first, then the style is consistent
[10:23] <jbicha> I like how we come up with these complicated sentences. That accessibility sentence has three different occurences of "and"
[10:23] <mpt> willcooke, well, I said *lessen*, not eliminate … You’d have two differently-styled G&P phrases then. “Graphics & Photography, Games and Productivity”
[10:25] <mpt> jbicha, yeah, that sentence is ironically not so great if you have reading difficulties
[10:25] <jbicha> 😒
[10:26] <mpt> (or even if you’re installing in English only because your first language isn’t available at install time)
[10:27] <willcooke> Sounds like we have another item for the backlog next cycle, and it can be added in to any new installer work we do.  For now though, I think the bikeshed should be blue and that'll do.
[10:28] <willcooke> thanks for the help all.
[10:28] <willcooke> jibel, I'll push to that branch in a mo.
[10:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: I agree it makes a lot of sense to keep using LP for translating indicators-*. What I found was that somebody had actively removed the templates, and assumed it had been done for a reason.
[10:46] <GunnarHj> If I understand you correctly, you think that the whole Unity stack should be kept at LP. Is it so?
[10:51] <jbicha> GunnarHj: I think all the Unity packages need to be updated to add X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack if they want to keep using LP translations but I don't think that was done for all of them
[10:55] <GunnarHj> jbicha: My guess is that they haven't thought much about translations so far. But if k_alam confirms, then I agree it makes sense to do so.
[11:03] <GunnarHj> Laney: Did you see my MP at bug #1758979?
[11:06] <Laney> GunnarHj: yes, I'm going to look later on, thanks
[11:08] <acheronuk> for the record, I originally had a comma in that Kubuntu string :P
[11:40]  * didrocks reboots
[11:45] <seb128> GunnarHj, I don't think anyone removed the templates, it's just that those didn't get any upload in bionic
[11:45] <seb128> and they are in universe
[11:51] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, did you see my msg about the cups update/autopkgtest issues yesterday?
[11:57] <jbicha> tkamppeter: and did you see my comment on LP: #1752579 ?
[12:00] <xnox> Trevinho, Laney - i'm playing around with plymouth; and i am wondering if i can make it match (pixel to pixel) the login screen logo position
[12:00] <xnox> to have flicker free transition, where is the purple color / logo defined.... in gdm3?
[12:00]  * xnox is lost
[12:02] <xnox> e.g. i think plymouth purple is wrong / different to the login screen purple =( and that makes me sad
[12:02] <xnox> oooh gnome-shell
[12:02] <didrocks> yep
[12:03] <didrocks> in ubuntu.css
[12:03] <didrocks> for the gdm mode
[12:03] <didrocks> same for logo and such
[12:03] <xnox> oh, ubuntu.css? /me found background.js
[12:03] <didrocks> let me find it back, I did that some months ago :)
[12:03] <xnox> it's dark aubergine!
[12:04] <xnox> https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette/ well the DEFAULT_BACKGROUND_COLOR in the ubuntu_background_login.patch .... by you =)
[12:04] <didrocks> oh right, debian/patches/ubuntu_background_login.patch
[12:04] <didrocks> that's the only one (contrary to the logo) I couldn't change in the css it seems
[12:04] <didrocks> no
[12:05] <didrocks> this isn't gdm
[12:05] <didrocks> I remember now
[12:05] <didrocks> that's the screen you see between gdm and gnome-shell
[12:05] <didrocks> while gnome-shell is loading and scaling out its UI
[12:07] <xnox> oh
[12:09] <xnox> right found it.
[12:09] <xnox> didrocks, can.... i somehow, make gdm not "pop" on start? like not "zoom-in"?
[12:09] <didrocks> xnox: change the Shell code? :)
[12:10] <didrocks> I honestly didn't look at it
[12:10] <didrocks> #lockDialogGroup for the gdm color
[12:10] <didrocks> in ubuntu.css
[12:10] <didrocks>   background: #2c001e url(resource:///org/gnome/shell/theme/noise-texture.png);
[12:37] <jibel> willcooke, re bug 1759601 I see you added ubuntu-themes, is there any work to be done there?
[12:48] <GunnarHj> seb128: I may have jumped at conclusion wrt to Unity stack translation templates. Do you think we should wait for a confirmation from ~unity7maintainers, or should we just go ahead and add X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack to those packages where it's not already there?
[12:52] <GunnarHj> seb128: Btw, I think I'll start a topic at https://community.ubuntu.com/c/desktop/ubuntu-unity-dev and ask them to clarify what they want and check out which packages need to be changed. :)
[12:56] <jbicha> GunnarHj: you (probably) can't actually post there (locked category) :(
[12:57] <jbicha> if you really want to post, you can post in a different category and ask the mods to move your post. I did that once
[13:05] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Ah, thanks for the tip.
[13:08] <seb128> GunnarHj, well, I would add X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack because I think it's easier to use launchpad translations & langpacks than advertising indicators as projetcs to be picked by translators and commit updates to the source
[13:08] <seb128> but I'm not working on that stack anymore so it's up to the unity team
[13:09]  * mdeslaur hugs xnox for looking at flicker free boot again
[13:09] <GunnarHj> seb128: Indeed, I agree that it seems to be best to keep using LP, but let's the team decide.
[13:10]  * mgedmin has never seen a flicker-free boot before
[13:12]  * seb128 doesn't stay watching the computer screen for a minute during boot but usually goes to grab coffee or something
[13:12] <mdeslaur> mgedmin: I've been waiting for _years_... :)
[13:13] <mdeslaur> seb128: don't, it will make you sad
[13:13] <seb128> :)
[13:16] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/104 could use a review, when you have time
[13:16] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 104 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Add missing stage packages and copy ibus socket files to enable ibus for GTK3 applications out-of-the-box." (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, looks like my old comments on that bug have been useful :)
[13:19] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, great!
[13:20] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, thanks a bunch, reading those saved me some time reading into ibus code
[13:20] <seb128> yw!
[13:25] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, also, I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1449864 and submitted https://reviewboard.mozilla.org/r/232444/ to address it, what do you think about it?
[13:25] <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.mozilla.org bug 1449864 in Untriaged "[snap package] removable-media plug needed to allow saving downloaded files to /media" [Normal, Unconfirmed] - Assigned to nobody
[13:26] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, cool, i saw that on the forum
[13:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, kenvandine, commented on the ibus PR, I don't know if the bus address can change in a session but it's not impossible if the daemon restarts for some reason ... wouldn't it make sense to symlink the dir rather than copying it over?
[13:31] <oSoMoN> seb128, that makes sense
[13:32] <oSoMoN> I'll update the PR
[13:32] <seb128> thx
[13:45] <seb128> jbicha, so that d-conf update migrated, there is really something about .1, it's not bionic/the toolchain :/
[13:45] <jbicha> yeah
[13:45] <jbicha> seb128: is it too late in bionic for LP: #1740637 ?
[13:47] <seb128> jbicha, I don't think it is no
[13:47] <seb128> someone needs to review those removal requests though, unsure if that's going to happen
[13:49] <jbicha> do you think I should ask for a FFe for that bug?
[13:49] <seb128> check with Laney but I'm unsure it qualifies as a feature
[13:50] <seb128> though one could argue that remove packages late can take people by surprise
[13:51] <jbicha> yeah, I prefer earlier removals
[13:52] <jbicha> maybe I'll just wait on this one
[13:53] <jbicha> it's not really practical to port those 2 apps to gtk3 now if they want to keep the appindicator feature
[13:54] <oSoMoN> seb128, kenvandine : PR updated
[13:55] <willcooke> jibel, sorry, only just saw your ping.  No, I don't think so, I copied the 17.10 bug and it was there.  Probably just a good way of letting people interested in themes know where the animals were living.  Can probably be removied
[13:55] <willcooke> removed
[14:01] <Laney> jbicha: seb128: Not for removals themselves, but if they cause features in other packages to go away then they are covered by feature freeze I think.
[14:01] <jbicha> Laney: cool, I'll just keep it on the back burner until 18.10
[14:02] <seb128> sounds reasonsable to me
[14:10] <Trevinho> morning...
[14:10] <kenvandine> good morning Trevinho
[14:10] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[14:11] <Trevinho> xnox: hey.... so that effect is hardcoded yeah...
[14:12] <Trevinho> hi seb128 and kenvandine
[14:12] <seb128> Trevinho, how is sunny mexico today? ;)
[14:12] <Trevinho> seb128: lovely sunny
[14:12] <seb128> :)
[14:13] <Trevinho> Still in my room, but it's quite sunny too
[14:26] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, how about ibus and gtk2 or qt apps?  Similar fixes maybe?
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, how did you get the env that reproduce the dconf/notify-osd/armhf issue again?
[14:26] <Laney> seb128: using autopkgtest-virt-lxd
[14:26] <Laney> -- lxd autopkgtest/ubuntu/bionic/amd64
[14:27] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:27] <seb128> I wish we had a such env we could ssh to :/
[14:28] <Laney> you'd just have to run the same command as you run on your laptop anyway
[14:28] <Laney> but this time it would be on armhf so much slower
[14:29] <seb128> right, it's just that diskspace issue
[14:29] <seb128> I've a new disk but didn't get to take a day to reinstall/copy over
[14:30] <Laney> oh right, it'd probably work on Canonistack I guess
[14:33] <Laney> omg
[14:34] <Laney> I should stop having different quick-urls on each machine
[14:34] <Laney> for launchpad source package
[14:34] <seb128> I wonder if autopkgtest-virt-lxd is  stucked
[14:34] <Laney> stupid Lastpass forcefully took over 'lp' and I made a different choice for what to use instead
[14:34] <seb128> or just doing work without giving any feedback
[14:34] <seb128> ahah
[14:42] <GunnarHj> seb128: Do you have time to sync synaptic 0.84.3 from unstable? That would give us back some translations via X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack.
[14:46] <seb128> GunnarHj, done
[14:46] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, yeah, I haven't tested that yet, I suppose they would be similar fixes indeed
[14:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks! :)
[14:47] <Laney> let's see if I can get editing the casper scripts right the first time...
[14:47] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, do you have names of snaps that use desktop-qt and desktop-gtk2 ?
[14:48] <seb128> Laney, so I need to created a ubuntu/bionic/amd64 to get to armhf env after or how does that work?
[14:48] <Laney> seb128: yes, using autopkgtest-build-lxd
[14:48] <seb128> I guess I need to build-lxd before using virt-lxd?
[14:48] <seb128> those tools are not really verbose
[14:49] <seb128> using virt-lxd on an non existing image just print "ok" and get stucked doing nothing and not returning
[14:49] <Laney> k, sorry about that, you are welcome to file bugs at debian preferably
[14:49] <Laney> elbrus is working on that stuff atm
[14:49] <seb128> no worry, I should take the time to read properly about it
[14:49] <seb128> sorry for the stupid questions
[14:50] <seb128> k for the debian bug!
[14:50] <Laney> the man pages aren't too bad btw
[14:50] <seb128> right, I was looking at that :)
[14:53] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, the gedit snap fails to start here, is that known? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hfJrTh9RfB/
[14:58] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, works for me
[14:59] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, any of the electron snaps would use gtk2
[14:59] <kenvandine> not sure about qt
[14:59] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, like spotify
[14:59] <seb128> Laney, is that the way to get to armhf?
[15:00] <seb128> lxc remote add armhf-test http://armhf.testlab.example.com:8443
[15:00] <seb128>               autopkgtest --setup-commands=setup-testbed gdk-pixbuf -- \
[15:00] <seb128>                  lxd --remote armhf-test images:debian/sid/armhf
[15:00] <seb128> ?
[15:00] <Laney> what is that?
[15:00] <seb128> what is in http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/autopkgtest-virt-lxd.1.html
[15:00] <Laney> I don't know, sorry, I just used amd64 to reproduce this
[15:00] <seb128> I don't understand how to cross arch :p
[15:00] <Laney> the arch doesn't matter
[15:00] <seb128> ah
[15:00] <seb128> weird, it failed only on armhf on the infra
[15:00] <Laney> because that's the only architecture where we use lxd
[15:00] <seb128> oooohhh
[15:00] <seb128> I didn't understand that part
[15:01] <Laney> ah!
[15:01] <seb128> Laney, thanks, now things start to make sense
[15:01] <Laney> ok, often if you see an armhf only failure
[15:01] <Laney> it really means lxd
[15:01] <seb128> learning every day
[15:01] <seb128> that also explain why I couldn't reproduce on the porter box I guess
[15:01] <Laney> they are reasonably close to chroots
[15:02] <Laney> so trying in one of those is valid enough as a strategy
[15:02] <Laney> but obviously chroots are less of a full system than lxd
[15:02] <Laney> which are less than qemu
[15:03] <Laney> didn't get the casper change right :(
[15:05] <Laney> oh ffs
[15:05] <Laney> I booted the wrong iso
[15:06] <Laney> I'm having a stupid week
[15:07] <seb128> :/
[15:09] <Laney> jibel: the schema override doesn't work, we need to glib-compile-schemas
[15:10] <Laney> could move that bit to 22desktop_settings probably
[15:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: There was some old translation sync link for synaptic. :( So the templates are in, but not the tranlations. Any chance you could do a no-change rebuild? (I removed the sharing link.)
[15:12] <Laney> jibel: and we should probably protect these calls to check if the relevant software exists
[15:15] <GunnarHj> seb128: Hold on with that please... I failed to remove that link.
[15:19] <seb128> GunnarHj, k
[15:20] <GunnarHj> seb128: Maybe you have sufficient privileges to remove it. (This looks like that other package where I removed and it reappeared.)
[15:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, done
[15:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, so maybe you don't have the permissions but launchpad fails to tell you that
[15:21] <GunnarHj> seb128: Maybe. no-change rebuild?
[15:24] <seb128> GunnarHj, k
[15:26] <seb128> GunnarHj, done
[15:26] <seb128> doh, should have used an "build1" rather than "ubuntu1" version
[15:26] <seb128> oh well, we can still sync on next upload in debian
[15:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks! Crossing my fingers.
[15:27] <seb128> on that note stepping out for a bit
[15:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah.. It isn't updated often nowadays anyway.
[15:35] <jibel> Laney, okay, I'll update the patch tomorrow
[15:36] <jibel> seb128, I couldn't reproduce any of the trigger loop bugs :/
[15:36] <jibel> and didn't hit the plymouth bug either
[15:37] <Laney> jibel: I'll do it
[15:37] <Laney> already in the brain space
[15:37] <jibel> Laney, wfm, thanks
[15:37] <Laney> you can check out my new diff in a minute
[15:37] <Laney> please :P
[15:38] <jibel> I've to run an errand, but I'd be pleased to review it later in the evening
[15:40] <Laney> cool
[15:40] <Laney> this seems to work now
[15:49] <Laney> uploaded w/block-proposed
[15:50] <GunnarHj> seb128: synaptic .po files in import queue. :)
[16:06] <oSoMoN> that's it for today and for the week
[16:06]  * oSoMoN hits the road
[16:06] <oSoMoN> have a great long week-end everyone
[16:17] <GunnarHj> Anybody who can upload ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu so the new strings from bug #1759601 are passed to the translators?
[16:41] <didrocks> ok, advanced quite well on the communitheme snap, still some debug to do on GNOME Shell side, but didn't think I can get as much done in a couple of hours :)
[17:12] <Laney> good one didrocks!
[17:12] <Laney> and bye, happy easter!
[17:12] <Laney> see you tuesday
[17:13] <didrocks> see you on tuesday Laney
[17:14]  * Laney gives you an easter egg
[17:18] <willcooke> Happy long weekend all.  May your houses get decorated and your rubbish taken to the tip, as is customary at this time of year.
[17:18] <willcooke> see you next week
[17:59] <seb128> have a nice w.e desktopers!
[19:54] <ricotz> jbicha, I am hoping you have time to merge zeitgeist from debian