[00:45] <Bashing-om> guiverc: WB :)
[00:45] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om :)
[00:46] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Get ready to jump in, the water is fine :P
[00:51]  * pragmaticenigma splashes water @ guiverc & Bashing-om 
[00:52] <Bashing-om> pragmaticenigma: No efect . done got my feet wet :)
[00:56] <guiverc> :) @ pragmaticenigma -- you wet me
[00:57] <daftykins> don't drink the penguin pee
[01:00] <BionicMac> Or the Burrito droppings.
[01:01] <BionicMac> Many updates tonight. So far so good very stable. Good little beaver.
[01:04] <BionicMac> I even sorted out my "sound glitch". I had to install pavucontrol to clear things up in the configuration tab and select the correct profile. Done and rockin. =)
[01:04] <daftykins> o0 what was it set to vs. what works right?
[01:05] <BionicMac> ok let me pull it up.
[01:08] <BionicMac> pavucontrol / configuration tab/ Builtin audio prifile selector was set to "digital stereo (iec958) output + analog stereo input" - I changed it to "analog stereo duplex". ... Then I had to select "Playback" tab and set the firefox slider up" ( The test was a youtube video so yes.
[01:08] <BionicMac> s/prifile/profile/
[01:09] <BionicMac> Once the profile was changed system sounds also started playing.
[01:09] <daftykins> ah yeah, iec958 is optical (S/PDIF)
[01:10] <BionicMac> I'm happy. Pretty much every piece of hardware I can think of  is recognized and at least basic functionality tested.
[01:11] <BionicMac> I haven't tested firewire though. I could see if the ports are recognized by the kernel though.
[01:11] <daftykins> dead interface, that one :)
[01:13] <BionicMac> It's a good night. My new 1G inet connection was installed today and the first test proved to be 950+.
[01:13] <daftykins> mm nice, although i prefer real world downloads + uploads to test :>
[01:14] <daftykins> what service type is that - and where in the world?
[01:14] <BionicMac> suddenlink able in louisiana usa
[01:14] <BionicMac> s/able/cable/
[01:17] <daftykins> ah har
[01:17] <daftykins> passed through NOLA on a roadtrip with friends back in 2012
[01:17] <daftykins> can't say i felt safe - but the food was good :D
[01:18] <BionicMac> yeah, the safe part... =0
[01:18] <BionicMac> Best food in the country here.
[01:19] <BionicMac> Mny cities are full of crime and stay on the top crime rate lists in the USA.  I'll move soon. Within th eyear I want to move.
[01:20] <BionicMac> Colorado, Washington state or Oregon.
[01:21] <BionicMac> You've heard of the Duck Dynasty rednecks reality show? Their home is in Monroe, LA. which is in the top 10 cities for crime this year.
[01:24] <daftykins> nope!
[01:24] <BionicMac> Lucky you. =)
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> morning BionicMac
[04:30] <BionicMac> morning lotuspsychje
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !find unity
[04:46] <BionicMac> Nice, I just checked lm-sensors and the cpu is running 30 degrees cooler in ubuntu beaver than what it runs in native mac osx.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:51] <BionicMac> https://pastebin.com/1636dT2W
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> looks good
[05:18] <BionicMac> lotuspsychje: Here is my current screenshot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/AXDb96JdwHYOfJSA3
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> BionicMac: neat
[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:36] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[06:41] <ldosfjo> asdf
[06:42] <jink> 'sup, kids?
[06:43] <ldosfjo> sup\
[06:43] <ducasse> hiya, jink
[06:44] <lordievader> Hey ducasse jink
[06:44] <lordievader> How are you all?
[06:44] <jink> Fine, mostly! :D
[06:45] <ducasse> hi lordievader - how are you?
[06:45] <ducasse> good here, thanks :)
[06:45] <lordievader> Doing good here too :)
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader EriC^^ ducasse jink
[07:07] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:08] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> great here
[07:08] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[07:08] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> fine fine, 2 days left before holiday :p
[07:09] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje, EriC^^ - how are you guys?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:10] <EriC^^> hi ducasse, good here yourself?
[07:10] <ducasse> i'm good, thanks
[07:23] <EriC^^> guys i noticed today that !nomodeset sucks
[07:23] <EriC^^> !nomodeset
[07:24] <EriC^^> the link only goes on to mention how to add grub parameters using /etc/default/grub , nothing about pressing shift, then pressing e to edit etc
[07:24] <EriC^^> it's not very dead on either, it's very general mentioning acpi and vram and a bunch of acpi topics etc
[07:24] <EriC^^> not so newbie friendly
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont like it to forward to ubuntu forums neither
[07:26] <EriC^^> it should be pretty newbie friendly as newbies installing ubuntu getting a blank screen are gonna use it, also it should mention how to edit grub from the installer
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> but i cant find any more decent wiki then !bootoptions
[07:26] <EriC^^> it only mentions the legacy installer F6 method, no uefi pressing e method
[07:26] <ducasse> there should really be a wiki page on nomodeset, it's such a common thing
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !bootoptions
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: if you find anything decent lemme know
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys work
[10:02] <elizabeth_bennet> Super Newb. Have questions, need help. Anybody available?
[10:04] <TJ-> elizabeth_bennet: sure. Support isssues in #ubuntu - this channel is for general non-support discussion
[10:06] <elizabeth_bennet> Thanks for the redirect.
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:55] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj - how are you doing?
[10:57] <BluesKaj> hi ducasse, ok here. and you?
[11:02] <ducasse> all good here, tidying up a bit. my cousin is coming for dinner, so i thought i'd make the place a bit more presentable.
[11:05] <BluesKaj> hmm desktop just crahed
[11:06] <BluesKaj> crashed even
[11:06] <BluesKaj> ok here we go, 111 upgrades
[11:08] <BluesKaj> right, I have to clean house today for my daughter's visit tomorrow
[11:10] <ducasse> stuff like that is on the 'boring things that still needs to be done' list
[14:43] <daftykins> just had a play with desktop bionic, bit odd that alt+space shortcuts are no longer possible - the context menu appears but e.g. 'x' for maximise no longer does anything
[14:45] <TJ-> Wonderful Gnome?
[14:45] <daftykins> :D
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> except it's not gnome... it's Ubuntu-Gnome
[15:22] <daftykins> nobody likes a hair slicer
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> except you know it's true... since Gnome removed a bunch of things Ubuntu put back in to make the transition easier
[15:28] <daftykins> i'm really beginning to dislike you
[15:33] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma is likely correct; Canonical have tried to make Gnome behave like Unity and only got part of the way there, so it's not Gnome but it's not Unity and no-one knows for sure which options/hotkeys to expect
[15:36] <daftykins> seemed a given to me that didn't need to be spelled out to the choir
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> daftykins, I see no reason to get hostile. I don't know your knowledge base in these things. I wasn't attempting to insult or call you out for anything. I merely stated a thought, in the open for conversation.
[15:44] <daftykins> well here's a clue, i've been here a while - don't explain things
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> This is an open forum and anyone should feel free to express their thoughts. I'm done on this topic, let's move on.
[15:54] <daftykins> You can be as done as you like, but try and show some courtesy.
[15:56] <daftykins> not to worry i'll just set an ignore
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> practice what you preach daftykins
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> hey guys
[16:58] <BionicMac> Hello lotuspsychje
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> hey BionicMac wb
[17:00] <BionicMac> Thanks, you as well.
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !mac | BionicMac can you check if this is still valid method, or you installed another way?
[17:03] <BionicMac> Awesome, It should have some tips and hints! My main deal now is how to make the changes sound (pavucontrol)  "stick" between reboots  and sometimes even screen locks. I'm having to re-enter it frequently. Not sure if that is a specific mac issue but more a sound chip thing.
[17:03] <BionicMac> My changes in pavucontrol are staying, however, I have to toggle the profile in the configuration tab often to regain sound.
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> slowly starting
[17:59] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Hey hey .. getting settled in -- see what the day brings . Updated bionic this AM and a new kernel :)
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> yes indeed
[18:19] <EriC^^> evening guys
[18:20] <Bashing-om> Hey EriC^^ Good day to ya :)
[18:20] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om , you as well :)
[18:23] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Rainy here .. so a good excuse to IRC with a clear consious :)
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> rainy here aswell
[18:27] <EriC^^> :D
[18:27] <EriC^^> kinda slow right now, hopefully it picks up a little :)
[18:28] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> 1600 users it should :p
[19:11] <pauljw> hi everyone
[19:14] <EriC^^> hey pauljw
[19:14] <pauljw> hi EriC^^ :)
[19:14] <EriC^^> :)
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[19:30] <pauljw> hey lotuspsychje :)
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys tv time, last day work tomorrow
[21:26] <EriC^^> wb pauljw
[21:26] <pauljw> ty EriC^^
[21:29] <EriC^^> :)
[22:54] <pragmaticenigma> guess they burned out leftyfb
[22:56] <leftyfb> or were removed
[22:56] <pragmaticenigma> it said client quit
[22:56] <pragmaticenigma> thought that meant they signed off
[22:56] <leftyfb> yup, freenode does that if they're removed from the network by an op in a certain way
[22:57] <pragmaticenigma> oh
[23:02] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: one thing I try to do is not let-on or feed the trolls in-channel, so instead of doing !op I /join #ubuntu-ops and request help there
[23:08] <pragmaticenigma> TJ-, Since one cannot loiter there, It's easier for me to call the flag... I do it once, and only once
[23:09] <TJ-> No need to loiter, just pop-in
[23:10] <pragmaticenigma> ya know... this community seems to be getting more hostile by the day... guess that's just my cue to buzz out again
[23:12] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: not at all, just pointing it out. Some trolls enter the channels to get reaction, so if they don't see us react they don't bother again
[23:13] <TJ-> an op just 'leaves' or 'quits' them without them enjoying some confrontation
[23:14] <pragmaticenigma> It's not you specifically... and it's not about the op flags or any one thing specific
[23:15] <pragmaticenigma> I joined this particular room because i was encouraged to do so. ever since, it seems instead of trying to help each other out, it's easier to point out a flaw or an action that doesn't quite fit someone else opinion of how something should be handled
[23:15] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: you have to have a thick skin on IRC, there's no facial expressions or body language to gauge peoples attitudes by
[23:15] <pragmaticenigma> But I see it in both, it's not about thick skin. One individual isn't going to take me down
[23:16] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: you'll get that in any area of life; use /ignore and you're sorted
[23:18] <pragmaticenigma> I see putting someone on ignore as something immature. I've delt with the lowest of low lifes and trolls both online and IRL. I'm calling out the fact that this should be a community to help each other, help others... if I give bad information, it's fine to point it out, but geesh, focus on the matter at hand
[23:19] <TJ-> Agreed, but i use /ignore like I do in real life; I ignore folks that are out to cause disruption
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> one misstep and isntead of helping the person looking for help, it's like all attention goes to the person that screwed up. as if it's going to help the person who came for an answer
[23:20] <pragmaticenigma> I ignore with my eyes... i can see the name/handle and just know to skip the next line
[23:20] <TJ-> especially on IRC most people seem to want to have the last word, and they're afraid of missing something, so they won't use /ignore, then they get more wound up ... and on it goes