[06:53] <mate|33366> networking, with other windows computers
[06:54] <mate|33366> to view other window computers on the network.
[10:11] <mate|54420> Hello world !!
[11:01] <ole_denmark> why write mate54420 Hello world  ?
[12:26] <Lanner900Z> Hi All. Is it possible to install Packages from the Studio Version into the Mate Version. It has been awhile since I have been using Linux. I put together a couple computers from spare parts and this one is XP64- Ubuntu Mate Dual Boot. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
[13:15] <sixwheeledbeast> Just install them if they are available in the repo?
[13:34] <Lanner900Z> Sorry- was using PIA VPN- disconnected VPN now
[13:35] <Lanner900Z> New to Ubuntu- where can I connect to Repo?
[13:35] <alkisg> Lanner900Z: mention one example package that you want to install
[13:36] <Lanner900Z> Right now I want a package to burn ISO's
[13:36] <Lanner900Z> Don't have a package name yet.
[13:36] <alkisg> Do you have a specific package name? I thought you were looking for specific packages from Ubuntu studio...
[13:36] <alkisg> OK, then try brasero
[13:36] <alkisg> It used to be preinstalled in previous Ubuntu versions
[13:37] <TaZeR> Lanner900Z: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:37] <Lanner900Z> Okay wil do- Thanks- I see that Studio offers a Guitar Effects Package- I would like to get that.
[13:37] <Lanner900Z> 17.10 Mate
[13:38] <alkisg> Lanner900Z: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=guitarix
[13:39] <TaZeR> Lanner900Z: i think this should get you sorted by adding the ubuntu studio repo to regular ubuntu: "sudo su -c 'echo deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio artful main >> /etc/apt/sources.list' wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update"
[13:39] <TaZeR> then you have access to every software from studio
[13:40] <TaZeR> let me know if it works i might of made a mistake
[13:40] <Lanner900Z> Thanks I will see how things go
[13:40] <Lanner900Z> Thanks again
[13:55] <Lanner900Z> Got to Jet for the moment- work to do. Bye all
[15:13] <ole_denmark> hellow from a glad mateowner www.olehasselbalch.dk/s.mov
[15:14] <ole_denmark> don't laugh
[15:55] <ole_denmark> hello from cold denmark
[16:21] <yetoo> Is there a unified directory that mate shortcut configurations
[16:21] <yetoo>                can go to?
[16:22] <alkisg> yetoo: what is "shortcut configurations"?
[16:22] <yetoo> Like configurations for shortcuts
[16:22] <alkisg> Yeah, that doesn't help
[16:22] <yetoo> like a file that contains user defined shortcuts
[16:22] <alkisg> Keyboard shortcuts?
[16:22] <yetoo> Yes
[16:22] <yetoo> But wait
[16:23] <yetoo> I'm not talking about the global keybaord shotcuts that just opens applications
[16:23] <yetoo> I'm talking shortcuts for individual applications
[16:23] <yetoo> of the mate caliber
[16:23] <alkisg> So you mean that you would create a file in a directory where you would define that ctrl+c is copy in firefox?
[16:24] <alkisg> Application shortcuts are not defined by the desktop environment
[16:25] <yetoo> Look, essentially I'm looking for something to edit in the gconf editor
[16:25] <alkisg> gconf is deprecated in favor of gsettings
[16:25] <alkisg> gsettings are written in the dconf database
[16:25] <yetoo> If yo ucan change internal application shortcuts that way
[16:25] <yetoo> that's what i meant dconf
[16:25] <alkisg> Many applications don't care at all about dconf, they don't even use it
[16:26] <alkisg> So it depends on the specific application that you want
[16:26] <yetoo> Alright, because some mate applications don't allow one to change their shortcuts
[16:26] <yetoo> unless you go into the source code
[16:27] <yetoo> like the mate-system-monitor
[16:27] <alkisg> I think it'd be best if you mentioned a specific example and what you want to do with it
[16:28] <yetoo> I want to change the sigterm shortcuts for mate-system-monitor to single key preses rather than ctrl + a key press
[16:28] <yetoo> *a key press -> <a key press>
[16:28] <alkisg> For example, you can see its settings with: gsettings list-recursively org.mate.system-monitor
[16:28] <alkisg> There are no shortcut settings there, so that application doesn't allow defining shortcuts with gsettings
[16:29] <alkisg> So yes, you'd need to change its source code and rebuid it yourself
[16:29] <alkisg> You could also file a bug report in case the developers see it as something useful to implement
[17:49] <psykid> hi
[19:03] <linuxliam> i think this means i have duplicate sources https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YFPPgb9cHn/ any help?
[19:08] <alkisg> linuxliam: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list.bad
[19:22] <linuxliam> what did ubuntu mate do to make snaps look better
[19:23] <linuxliam> as in theming
[20:01] <Kwisher> any of the dev's hang out in here?
[20:03] <alkisg> Kwisher: ubuntu-mate devs or mate devs?
[20:03] <alkisg> !ask
[20:04] <Kwisher> alkisg: i'm not an irc noob :)
[20:05] <Kwisher> and the channel is called #ubuntu-mate not #mate
[20:05] <alkisg> Kwisher: eh, I should have known by your name that you know the difference between ubuntu-mate and mate devs
[20:05] <Kwisher> so yes, ubuntu-mate dev's
[20:05] <alkisg> Oh no, I can't know that by your name
[20:06] <alkisg> So excuse me but I had to ask, as 99% of users that come here don't know it
[20:06] <alkisg> So yeah the one and only ubuntu-mate developer is here
[20:06] <Kwisher> and i did ask a question so not seeing the reason for your hounding me
[20:07] <alkisg> I was trying to help, and you started correcting me
[20:07] <alkisg> Anyways, bbl
[20:15] <Kwisher> anyways, i seen this post on G+ the other day: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JoeHecht/posts/CxCiwgLzeBW
[20:16] <Kwisher> i think someone from the dev team should respond to it to make any needed coreections
[20:20] <alkisg> Google plus is not an appropriate channel for bug reports; there's github and launchpad for that; and, I had already filed a similar bug report and it's been addressed
[20:21] <alkisg> I.e. now the metapackages in 18.04 mostly recommend and don't depend on packages
[20:26] <Kwisher> but, removing the metapackage(s) doesn't cause any breakage, correct?
[20:26] <alkisg> It may, but usually not
[20:27] <alkisg> The live cd seeding process marks the dependencies as manually installed
[20:27] <alkisg> If it didn't, then after removing e.g. firefox, which would remove the metapackage,
[20:27] <alkisg> if after that the user did an `apt purge --auto-remove` just to clean his system, he'd remove all of the dependencies
[20:27] <alkisg> I.e. would get a system without mate
[20:28] <Kwisher> sure about that?
[20:28] <alkisg> So that affects users that installed ubuntu-mate as a package, but not the ones that used a live cd, as in the live cd they're marked as manually installed by the seeding process
[20:28] <alkisg> 99,9%
[20:28] <alkisg> I checked it a couple of months ago
[20:28] <Kwisher> ok, i see the difference
[21:09] <Kwisher> alkisg: ever tried budgie?
[21:58] <mate|25095> buenas noches ubunteros!!!!