[15:00] <Odd_Bloke> o/
[15:00] <cyphermox> o/
[15:00] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <cyphermox> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 29 15:01:04 2018 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] <tribaal> o/
[15:01] <cyphermox> #topic Lightning rounds
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[15:02] <cyphermox> echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther juliank)
[15:02] <cyphermox> xnox cyphermox tdaitx Odd_Bloke doko philroche rcj rbalint mwhudson slangasek sil2100 juliank tribaal infinity fginther bdmurray
[15:02] <cyphermox> this is not rigged.
[15:02] <xnox> i don't like this sorning =)
[15:02] <xnox> pass
[15:02] <tribaal> hehe
[15:02] <cyphermox> haha
[15:02] <cyphermox> xnox: you're not ready?
[15:03] <xnox> no
[15:03] <cyphermox> cyphermox:
[15:03] <cyphermox> MIR review: libbluray, pv, socat
[15:03] <cyphermox> grub SRU for networkcard/timer magic
[15:03] <cyphermox> still working on 'netplan try'
[15:04] <cyphermox> released netplan 0.34.1 last thu
[15:04] <cyphermox> fixing breadcrumbs for ifupdown->netplan
[15:04] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:04] <tdaitx> tdaitx:
[15:04] <tdaitx> * OpenJDK 9 as default JDK
[15:04] <tdaitx>   - rebuilding newest syncs/fixes from debian
[15:04] <tdaitx>   - working on autopkgtest failures to migrate java-common
[15:04] <tdaitx>   - planning for openjdk-10 tests
[15:04] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> * Partner visits the last two weeks
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> * Mostly debriefing/playing catch-up from partner visits
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> * Work on minimal images (for download and for partner clouds)
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> * Out tomorrow and the next two weeks
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[15:06] <Odd_Bloke> doko:
[15:06] <Odd_Bloke> (Sorry, got a delivery at an inopportune moment.)
[15:07] <rcj> rcj:
[15:08] <rcj> * simplestream generation for minimal cloud-image downloads is now available @ https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/daily/streams/v1/
[15:08] <rcj> * cloud-image build maintenance and code reviews
[15:08] <rcj> * testing of minimal images and filing bugs
[15:08] <rcj> (done)
[15:09] <rbalint> * backported old kernel removal in update-manager to Xenial and Artful
[15:09] <rbalint> * proposed lintian check to detect sources that can't be fully imported to git https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894368
[15:09] <ubottu> Debian bug 894368 in lintian "lintian: Please add check for empty directories in the source package" [Wishlist,Open]
[15:09] <rbalint> * started fixing packages shipping empty dirs in Ubuntu, feel free to re-use this bug for uploads and backports: LP:#1758963
[15:09] <rbalint> updated  Bionic WSL test appx
[15:09] <rbalint>  preparations for rebuilding packages to ship universe packages, too, as position independent executables
[15:09] <rbalint> * tested unattended-upgrades 1.0ubuntu2 full backport to Xenial and Artful to remove kernels in u-u, too
[15:09] <rbalint> (done)
[15:09] <cyphermox> no mwhudson, no slangasek
[15:09] <cyphermox> no sil either?
[15:09] <cyphermox> juliank:
[15:10] <juliank> * uploaded python-apt 1.6.0 RCs
[15:10] <juliank> * fixed adequate to correctly parse new ldd output, unbreaking python-apt migration
[15:10] <juliank> * ubuntu-release-upgrader now autoremoves still-suggested packages (bug #1725861)
[15:10] <ubottu> bug 1725861 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false" should be the default" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725861
[15:10] <juliank> * WIP: snap integration in apport
[15:10] <juliank> * WIP: snap integration in apt
[15:10] <juliank> * WIP: travel planning
[15:10] <juliank> (done)
[15:11] <cyphermox> tribaal: ?
[15:11] <tdaitx> from tribaal: make minimal images available to download from <secret location>
[15:11] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:11] <cyphermox> ah yay
[15:12] <xnox> is it me?
[15:12] <cyphermox> fginther: ?
[15:12] <fginther> * Enabled a jenkins log analyser for performing basid triage of failed builds (the end result of a coding day activity)
[15:12] <fginther> * Progress on image testing automation for a partner cloud
[15:12] <fginther> * Build system vanguard
[15:12] <fginther> (done)
[15:12] <fginther> bdmurray:
[15:12] <bdmurray> special SRU reviews for coreycb
[15:12] <bdmurray> investigation into / testing of plymouth --ping hang
[15:12] <bdmurray> resolved issue with apport autopkgtest and uploaded it
[15:12] <bdmurray> wrote launchpadlib code to find rls-bb-tracking bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> imported rls-bb-tracking bugs into our trello board
[15:13] <bdmurray> submitted PR request with changes to trello bug importer
[15:13] <bdmurray> investigation into apport-retrace failures with LP: #1758035
[15:13] <bdmurray> discussion with seb128 re JournalErrors and apport
[15:13] <bdmurray> fixed JournalErrors apport bug LP: #1738581 better
[15:13] <bdmurray> tested ubuntu-release-upgrader change for LP: #1725861
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1758035 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_realloc_n() from g_log_structured()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758035
[15:13] <bdmurray> review of apport MP regarding snap support
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1738581 in apport (Ubuntu Artful) "apport is leaking environment variables (including passwords!) to public bug reports" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1738581
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1725861 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false" should be the default" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725861
[15:13] <bdmurray> that's it
[15:13] <cyphermox> xnox:
[15:13] <xnox> * Uploaded friendly-recovery with fixes for systemd/networkd integration.
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded plymouth with font fixes
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded s390-tools to stop using obsolete UDEV_RULES
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded mercurial with autopkgtest fix up
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded systemd, and fixed it up with a bunch of bugs fixed like  LP: #1758438
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1758438 in systemd (Ubuntu Bionic) "systemd can't be removed from a chroot" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758438
[15:13] <xnox> • (LP: #1752722)
[15:13] <xnox> •  (LP: #1728181)
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1752722 in systemd (Ubuntu Bionic) "systemd 237 reports incorrect state when drop-in present" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752722
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1728181 in systemd (Ubuntu Bionic) "systemd-networkd-wait-online waits when devices are unmanaged" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1728181
[15:13] <xnox> •  (LP: #1696970)
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1696970 in systemd (Ubuntu Bionic) "softlockup DoS causes systemd-journald.service to abort with SIGABORT" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1696970
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded d-i for new kernel abi
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded s390-sysconfig-writer with fixes for the new s390-tools
[15:13] <xnox> • Uploaded icu package split
[15:13] <xnox> • Filing removal bugs (e.g. click)
[15:13] <xnox> • Talking about technologies and tools with people
[15:13] <xnox> • Fixed up arubanetworks "fail" thanks to wireshark dumps from superm1
[15:13] <xnox> • Done
[15:13] <xnox> glorry details - https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/8608/files
[15:14] <cyphermox> glorry?
[15:14]  * xnox can't spell
[15:14] <rbalint> xnox: can't spel :-)
[15:15] <xnox> cyphermox, basically yeah it lies when responding to EDNS0 queries... with valid EDNS0 responses.... which are wrong
[15:15] <xnox> i guess it trips up on D0 bit set to zero....
[15:15] <cyphermox> cool
[15:15] <cyphermox> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html
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[15:16] <cyphermox> what do we need to discuss here? should we wait for our fearless leaders?
[15:16] <bdmurray> That's the wrong release
[15:16] <cyphermox> oops
[15:17] <cyphermox> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
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[15:17] <bdmurray> bug 1759732 is new
[15:17] <ubottu> bug 1759732 in partman-auto-crypto (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] Having zram support means that encrypted LVM installs don't work" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759732
[15:17] <cyphermox> I thought we had fixed this before last release?
[15:18] <cyphermox> or some similar issue with encrypted
[15:18] <cyphermox> oh, nevermind I guess it was crypted swap
[15:19] <cyphermox> anyway, seems like reshuffling zram appropriately in partman-auto-crypto is the right thing to do
[15:19] <bdmurray> so worth taking then?
[15:19] <cyphermox> my opinion is yes, but I shouldn't be signing up the team alone.
[15:20] <cyphermox> I can certainly fix this, I know about this issue
[15:20] <bdmurray> Okay, let's take it then.
[15:21] <bdmurray> bug 1756595 seems like something worth fixing right?
[15:21] <ubottu> bug 1756595 in apport (Ubuntu) "disk space info inadvertently provides all installed snaps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756595
[15:21] <cyphermox> err
[15:21] <cyphermox> df is doing what it's supposed to
[15:22] <cyphermox> do we do anything special for other such mountpoints
[15:22] <nacc> server team suggested (internally) maybe it should exclude some paths / mountpoints by regex
[15:22] <bdmurray> I haven't looked to see if it does
[15:23] <xnox> we had some regexeps in the past, to e.g. exclude things from Unity sidebar, nautilus, etc.
[15:23] <cyphermox> xnox: sure, but this is df, not some graphical thing
[15:23] <nacc> well it'd be in apport, no?
[15:24] <cyphermox> nacc: what do you mean?
[15:24] <cyphermox> when you look at df, you're supposed to look at the whole line, not just "oh is this 100%"
[15:24] <nacc> cyphermox: the regex in this case, would be in apport -- it could simply not show the snap paths
[15:24] <nacc> cyphermox: right, but would the snap paths ever be relevant to apport?
[15:24] <cyphermox> oh, I see
[15:24] <cyphermox> for apport, sure, but it might actually be relevant to some bugs
[15:25] <nacc> right, the above bug was against apport (based upon the bot)
[15:25] <rbalint> maybe we can skip loop devices in general, too
[15:25] <cyphermox> ie. "I'm running xyzzy, but it blows up" and it turns out the user has both the deb package and the snap installed?
[15:25] <nacc> cyphermox: wouldn't `snap list` output be the same?
[15:25] <nacc> dunno if we grab that
[15:25] <cyphermox> do we do that?
[15:25] <nacc> :)
[15:25] <nacc> bdmurray: --^ ?
[15:26] <cyphermox> I don't see extra lines in df output in an apport crash report being all that much an issue
[15:26] <cyphermox> more info, as long as it's not identifying info, is potentially helpful to fix a bug
[15:26] <nacc> yeah, me  neither
[15:27] <cyphermox> bdmurray: your opinion as bug master?
[15:27] <cyphermox> or should we just take the bug and decide later?
[15:27] <bdmurray> It'd be easy to fix so lets decide later.
[15:27] <cyphermox> great
[15:28] <bdmurray> I'm going to target bug 1756446 no discussion necessary.
[15:28] <ubottu> bug 1756446 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "Include JournalErrors.txt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756446
[15:28] <cyphermox> +1
[15:28] <rbalint> how about this line appearing:  /dev/loop23 102144 102144 0 100% /snap/tinder/23 ?
[15:29] <bdmurray> yes, I think that'd be surprising
[15:29] <rbalint> nevermind, discuss later
[15:29] <bdmurray> I think that's it for bugs
[15:30] <cyphermox> #topic AOB
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[15:30] <cyphermox> anyone?
[15:30] <bdmurray> There are some holidays approaching right?
[15:30] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:30] <cyphermox> I'm off friday, and all of next week
[15:31] <tdaitx> there's a holiday tomorrow, but I will swap it
[15:31] <rbalint> i'll be off tomorrow and on Monday, too
[15:31] <fginther> I'm out Friday and Monday (see the calendar)
[15:32]  * juliank too
[15:32] <cyphermox> cool
[15:32] <cyphermox> well, happy Easter, for those who celebrate it
[15:33] <cyphermox> that's it
[15:33] <cyphermox> ?
[15:34] <cyphermox> #endmeeting
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[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar 29 15:34:05 2018 UTC.
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-03-29-15.01.moin.txt
[15:34] <cyphermox> thanks everyone!