[00:00] <insanity99> Think its done. i'll log out now
[00:00] <Kumool> TJ-, the cancel button is the mighty esc, the enter button is accept.
[00:00] <Kumool> insanity99, try another shell too
[00:00] <Kumool> :)
[00:01] <TJ-> Kumool: right, that's my point, if the rename is started accidentially and you're not keeping an eye on where the focus is, you can change a file-name and press Enter before you realise - In years past I've dealt with 'lost documents' due to that by unknowning secretaries
[00:01] <insanity99> What sgell Kumool
[00:01] <insanity99> shell
[00:04] <MobileInsanity99> Uh oh the flickering is back Bashing-om. Seems the acpi fix was removed?
[00:04] <Bashing-om> ineiros: If I may : get comfortable with the default shell - bash ( Bourne Again Shell) so you know the difference with other shells .
[00:04] <MobileInsanity99> It may take several attempts to boot back in
[00:05] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: " cat /proc/cmdline " see what the boot line is .
[00:05] <TJ-> MobileInsanity99: if you only logged out/logged in, the acpi fix hasn't been touched
[00:06] <TJ-> MobileInsanity99: you'd have to reinstall the entire OS to remove the acpi_osi settings
[00:06] <MobileInsanity99> I accidentally restarted TJ- sorry
[00:06] <MobileInsanity99> I think it is booting now
[00:06] <TJ-> MobileInsanity99: it won't hurt to reboot, so don't worry about that
[00:08] <insanity99> Right back :) I'm on the xbuntu session now. Looks very different TJ- Bashing-om
[00:08] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Is different :) .. and stable ?
[00:08] <TJ-> insanity99: nany sign of tearing?
[00:11] <Kumool> TJ-, that has never happened to me though, it would actually be very difficult for that to happen, not only do you have to click a filename and thus changing the focus of the window, which you should notice because, that window is now in the foreground, but you also have to type something and it not appear in the window you're expecting it to, which you sholud be looking at (or maybe not i guess) and then you have to press enter quickly
[00:11] <Kumool> enough which would mean the window that is in the foreground would flicker and change in some way which can only happen if you werent looking at the screen at all... i see no reason a popup dialogue would change this since, you still have to look at the window
[00:11] <insanity99> Lol I've been benchmarking it by watching the last fight in Dragon Ball Super :p
[00:11] <Kumool> but since it has happened to you, then why not support both behaviors, make it an option
[00:11] <insanity99> It is tear free at last Bashing-om TJ-
[00:11] <insanity99> Victory
[00:12] <TJ-> insanity99: PHEW!
[00:12] <TJ-> insanity is what we've dealt with :)
[00:13] <insanity99> Day is saved again thanks
[00:13] <insanity99> Hahah true
[00:14] <insanity99> Now I'll see what tweaks I can make with this desktop environment :)
[00:14] <TJ-> uhoh
[00:15] <insanity99> I won't break anything TJ- lol
[00:15] <TJ-> insanity99: start learning here https://xubuntu.org/
[00:16] <TJ-> insanity99: xubuntu wraps XFCE, see https://xfce.org/
[00:16] <insanity99> Oh yeah which version did the command install? 16.04? TJ-
[00:16] <TJ-> insanity99: if your original install is 16.04 Xenail then yes, all packages are the 16.04 Xenial versions
[00:17] <Bashing-om> insanity99: http://forum.xfce.org/
[00:17] <insanity99> Okay thanks guys
[00:17] <Kumool> insanity99, the thing is, if you're learning shell you're often gonna have to learn the tools of the trade, that's sed,awk,grep,cut,tr and more. so i say stick to python for now and maybe learn bash and then awk later (and then the rest)
[00:17] <TJ-> insanity99: I run 6 monitors across 3 GPUs - lightfdm/XFCE handles them perfectly; Gnome doesn't
[00:18] <drhelskt> when the new one dropping
[00:19] <Bashing-om> drhelskt: Apr 26 is the target date .
[00:19] <drhelskt> cool
[00:21] <insanity99> Ok Kumool thanks
[00:21] <insanity99> TJ-, What do you actually do haha
[00:21] <TJ-> insanity99: Avoid problems like you've just had :)
[00:23] <TJ-> Time to get some sleep now the problem is solved. G'night.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: We have taken a college student .. from a dead useless machine to "back in business" with a supported system :P
[00:24] <insanity99> Haha thats true
[00:33] <insanity99> It is quick Bashing-om
[00:34] <stormy_daniels> Does anyone have expertise in gnome3 for ubuntu 16.04?
[00:34] <compdoc> i use mate
[00:34] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, better to just ask
[00:35] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, unity and gnome-shell are gnome3, so please specify which and what issue
[00:35] <stormy_daniels> k. has anyone fixed the problem with where gnome extensions aren't enabled on reboots/low-power-mode on 16.04?
[00:35] <Bashing-om> insanity99: And the environment will grow on you as you learn it how dextrious it is :)
[00:36] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, you should find out which extensions, and contact the maker
[00:36] <insanity99> Bashing-om, yeah, reading up now :)
[00:38] <stormy_daniels> bazhang: it's ALL the extensions
[00:38] <stormy_daniels> like, if it was one or two, that's fine
[00:38] <Bashing-om> insanity99: I run 8 work spaces on two displays on one monitor :) - and it is fast even on this old old hardware .
[00:38] <stormy_daniels> but every. single. one? sounds  more like a ubuntu/gnome3 thing
[00:38] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, how many do you have
[00:39] <stormy_daniels> 3
[00:39] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Thats mental haha
[00:39] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, do any of them have the same function and/or hotkey
[00:40] <stormy_daniels> bazhang: what do you mean? the "random background" doesn't have any hotkeys to my knowledge
[00:40] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, does it run fine without any extensions at all
[00:40] <stormy_daniels> yeah
[00:41] <stormy_daniels> but the point of moving to gnome3 was to take advantage of the extensions
[00:41] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, and have you tried enabling them one by one
[00:41] <stormy_daniels> I just did that. I kept doing that for a while, but then I got lazy and stopped
[00:42] <bazhang> stormy_daniels, I had some major headaches once I hit a certain number of extensions
[00:43] <stormy_daniels> I think, since I didn't see much documentation on the matter, just wait to install 18.04 once we confirm it doesn't brick dells
[00:51] <sqndro> hi
[00:52] <guiverc> sqndro, hi; this is a Ubuntu Support channel, if you have a Ubuntu question - please just ask it (one line please) and be patient for answers (if someone has one, they'll reply when they can)
[00:52] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Can I make the windows key open the main menu?
[00:54] <sqndro> hello how can I make a window active whenever I hover with mouse over it?
[00:55] <sqndro> (i saw this behavior on fedora machine we use in th euni)
[00:55] <guiverc> sqndro, it may help if we know what DEsktop you are using (version of Ubuntu may too)
[00:56] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Not sure at all about that  one .. I seem to recall that the windows key is hard coded . Lemme do some look'n ,
[00:56] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Might know it as super key?
[00:57] <insanity99> like win key + f brings up the file manager which is great
[00:58] <sqndro> guiverc I'm on Ubuntu 17.10 and gnome
[00:58] <guiverc> sqndro, i suspect if you use the same DEsktop as fedora was using (and a similiar version) it'll be the same.. Was the fedora running GNOME or another DE?
[01:00] <bazhang> unity-tweak-tool is what you need if unity sqndro
[01:00] <sqndro> ok guys thx for the answers. i'll go and learn more about linux desktops tomorrow :D
[01:00] <bazhang> sqndro, unity and gnome-shell are both gnome3, so tell us which
[01:01] <guiverc> sqndro, did the fedora (outside your hovering select) look and act like your Ubuntu?  (ie. behavior the same, menu etc)
[01:02] <Kumool> insanity99, if you find how to do that let me know
[01:02] <tina_> ?
[01:02] <insanity99> Kumool, Will do mate
[01:02] <tina_> mate?
[01:02] <sqndro> how can i tell if it's gnome-shell or gnome3? :/
[01:02] <Kumool> insanity99, you need to look into xmodmap, and your window manager
[01:03] <Kumool> insanity99, what's your window manager?
[01:03] <bazhang> tina_, ubuntu support issue?
[01:03] <bazhang> sqndro, is there a big side bar, or not
[01:03] <Kumool> insanity99, another way of saying desktop environment btw
[01:04] <sqndro> seriously does "insanity99" mean that?
[01:04] <insanity99> Kumool, xfce
[01:04] <bazhang> sqndro, lets stay topical here
[01:05] <Kumool> i asked in #xubuntu insanity99
[01:05] <Kumool> insanity99, go join there btw!
[01:05] <sqndro> echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP gives me "gnome" as output
[01:05] <sqndro> and yes there is a big bar
[01:05] <insanity99> Do I mean what sqndro?
[01:05] <sqndro> nothing mb
[01:05] <bazhang> sqndro, have you tried installing unity-tweak-tool yet
[01:06] <bazhang> sqndro, if you want mouse focusing active window, that's what you want
[01:07] <sqndro> what does it do actually?
[01:07] <sqndro> I'm installign it rigth nolw
[01:07] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Doable, but to this time I have not found how the xfce4-whiskermenu launches .
[01:08] <Kumool> Bashing-om, couldnt it be forced by sending a click to wherever the whisker menu is located at?
[01:08] <insanity99> Okay thanks Bashing-om I'll research
[01:08] <sqndro> am i changing my desktop env now? ^^
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Kumool: beats me .. look'n .
[01:09] <Kumool> package xmacro can send click events
[01:09] <Kumool> (looking too, since i also wanted this)
[01:09] <sqndro> ah nice I did it. Problem solved thx
[01:16] <Kumool> xdotool is another
[01:18] <Kumool> Bashing-om, found it! someone helped in #xubuntu :D
[01:23] <tina_> The graphics driver of the Ubuntu unity desktop crashed, and there was no way to get into the desktop and can only be reinstalled,The version is 16.04LTS
[01:23] <gde33> I assume this means sata 1 ? SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xc400 ctl 0xc080 bmdma 0xb880 irq 22
[01:25] <gde33> how do I figure out what SATA this box has?
[01:25] <gde33> web gives 1000 different answers
[01:26] <Bashing-om> insanity99: This http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/whisker-menu-update-brings-support-for.html ?
[01:27] <bazhang> gde33, waht does sudo lshw show
[01:29] <gde33> bazhang: https://pastebin.com/raw/XCmiKX4j
[01:29] <gde33> ah right at the top the mobo name
[01:29] <gde33> nice
[01:29] <gde33> bazhang: thanks
[01:29] <bazhang> welcome
[01:30] <gde33> Serial ATA (SATA) 3Gb/s :)
[01:31] <insanity99> Ahh thanks Bashing-om
[01:32] <gde33> bazhang: is it just me or are the 5 lines in "about this computer" a bit underwelming?
[01:34] <gde33> hardinfo doesn't say much either
[01:49] <insanity99> I'm off to bed. Goodnight guys
[01:49] <insanity99> Thanks again Bashing-om
[01:57] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Sleep well, study better :)
[02:25] <littlepython> how to make sure that an user is able to login through ssh only with the ssh key
[02:27] <guiverc> littlepython, PermitRootLogin without-password    (i believe)
[02:29] <guiverc> sorry that was for root; as I recall /etc/ssh/sshd_config is pretty easy to navigate
[02:35] <littlepython> guiverc: its inside the /etc/ssh/ssh_config or /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[02:35] <guiverc> sshd - the daemon or server (ssh_config is for client)
[02:36] <littlepython> how to make sure that an user is not able to login as a root user
[02:36] <cfhowlett> account properties: desktop user and not a member of sudoers group
[02:38] <abdellam730> test
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !test | abdellam730
[02:39] <iehusha> so dmidecode is reporting chip can overclock to 8300MHZ any buntu software to aid in this https://pastebin.com/qknN4qcW
[02:39] <guiverc> littlepython, "PermitRootLogin no"
[02:39] <notaviable> -
[02:41] <littlepython> guiverc:  PermitRootLogin without-password will ensure that we have to use the ssh key to login?
[02:41] <guiverc> littlepython, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html    (i'm not an admin sorry)
[02:42] <guiverc> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH  (list of pages)
[02:43] <cfhowlett> littlepython, #ubuntu-server can probably add more info
[02:49] <littlepython> also how do we create a user to login with ssh-key
[02:51] <guiverc> littlepython, i'm no expert; but I don't understand your question. i created my keys, and 'deposit' them on machines I need to login to - so 'create user' doesn't apply in my understanding ... maybe this will help
[02:51] <littlepython> so do we do this thro ssh-keygen
[02:52] <guiverc> ps: there are two keys - private & public (machines need only a single key usually)
[02:52] <guiverc> https://www.ssh.com/ssh/key/  - was link (i missed it sorry)
[02:52] <littlepython> guiverc: so how do we generate .pem file?
[02:55] <guiverc> sorry littlepython  - i can't help there
[02:57] <guiverc> (i can provide links like https://serverfault.com/questions/706336/how-to-get-a-pem-file-from-ssh-key-pair  which duckduckgo gave me and command `ssh-keygen -f id_rsa -e -m pem` but i can't advise)
[03:10] <zalgos> Hey
[03:13] <guiverc> zalgos, this is a Ubuntu support channel; if you have a question please just ask it (in a single line please), if someone knows the answer, they will (please be patient)
[03:14] <zalgos> Whoops thought I was in the offtopic one
[03:15] <guiverc> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <Avere[m]> Noob question. How do I copy paste in the maintainence terminal? Had to format my HDD and now I'm restoring my backup
[03:37] <Avere[m]> Because my system refuses to boot
[03:40] <Kumool> maintenance terminal?, you mean the tty?
[03:41] <Kumool> Avere[m], have you tried shift+v ?
[03:41] <Kumool> Avere[m], have you tried ctrl+shift+v ?
[03:41] <Avere[m]> How do I even select the text to copy?
[03:42] <Avere[m]> Anyways I wrote it manually and it still refuses to boot. So I have my encrypted /home on my 2nd HDD
[03:44] <Avere[m]> Along with another NTFS partition for windows (dual boot). I had to format the 2nd HDD entirely due to some problem with windows. I backed up my home partition using dd on to another external HDD
[03:44] <Kumool> mouse in tty? sudo apt install gpm
[03:45] <Avere[m]> Now when I'm restoring, I created a new partition in the HDD same size as original home and did dd
[03:45] <Avere[m]> From the backup to the 2nd HDD
[03:45] <Avere[m]> Now my system does not boot :(
[03:46] <Avere[m]> I even changed the UUID in fstab
[03:46] <Avere[m]> Hey wait, when creating the partition, I didn't specify it was encrypted before restoring the dd
[03:46] <Avere[m]> Should I have done that?
[03:51] <Avere[m]> Kumool not the tty. When your system refuses to boot, you get a maintainence terminal
[03:51] <Kumool> OH THAT
[03:52] <Kumool> i have no idea
[03:54] <Kumool> Not that experienced, hopefully somebody else can answer... soon
[03:55] <Avere[m]> How do I restore an encrypted home partition img from backup? I searched and I only got results z for recovering the drive
[03:55] <Avere[m]> I want to restore it and mount it
[04:29] <hitman1> Hi people.
[04:29] <hitman1> I hate the new look of Ubuntu Desktop. Why Ubuntu does not use unity now?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !flavor | hitman1
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> wich ubuntu version do you have hitman1
[04:32] <hitman1> 17.10
[04:33] <notaviable> too
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> hitman1: if you dont like gnome, choose another flavor or wait until 18.04 and see if unity is still installable
[04:34] <hitman1> lotuspsychje: Yeah I will do that.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> hitman1: also 17.10 is a 9month release version, if you want a more stable experience, choose an LTS version
[04:38] <k_> hola
[04:38] <hitman1> 18.04 will be LTS and is not released and I will install 16.04 today.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !es  k_
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !es | k_
[04:39] <k_> ok
[04:39] <k_> hello
[04:39] <k_> :)
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> hitman1: 18.04 is not far away, april..
[04:39] <hitman1> almost a month lotuspsychje
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> hitman1: if your on 16.04 you will be able to upgrade to 18.04 in the future also
[04:42] <hitman1> but I don't know whether unity will be back in 18.04 or not ?
[04:42] <guiverc> hitman1, Unity is no longer supported by Canonical (except on 14.04LTS & 16.04LTS) - its a community project now, so its future depends on those working on it...  It's in test too
[04:43] <hitman1> why unity is no longer supported?
[04:44] <guiverc> it is supported; not supported by Canonical - its a community project now; like Xubuntu, Ubuntu-MATE, etc
[04:45] <guiverc> Canonical support only Ubuntu directly; they provide help to official flavors (Unity may be approved as an official flavor, but for now its only a -desktop that can be added)
[04:46] <guiverc> hitman1, if you want to know more - look up https://community.ubuntu.com/search?q=unity
[04:49] <luxio> When I type, sometimes it takes a few seconds for what I type to appear on screen
[04:49] <luxio> same with clicking
[04:49] <luxio> anyone know what could be the problem?
[04:51] <guiverc> luxio, i don't know; but if your hdd's disk is on full-time; your system could be trashing  (ie. out of memory so its swapping pages to disk, other pages from disk back into memory) -- this can be tweaked, but may not be your issue...
[04:51] <guiverc> (full time being when you notice the condition)
[04:51] <luxio> restarting firefox seems to have fixed it
[04:52] <luxio> guiverc: checked system monitor and it wasn't at full ram or cpu
[04:52] <luxio> so idk what happened
[04:54] <guiverc> cpu is usually low-very.low during thrashing; part of the system has to wait till its done ..
[05:01] <guiverc> luxio, another possible cause - if using some non-server hdd drives (or equivalent), with bad sectors they don't report an error but avoid warranty claims, taking time to try and fix, or remap the data to another part of drive which takes time, and consumer grade often just waits until done -- if this it shouldn't happen regularly or predictibly (unless drive is failing - you could check drive stats/err counts) - just a
[05:01] <guiverc> thought
[05:20] <Guest21872> slow
[05:20] <Guest21872> slowdown
[05:57] <vadi> Is there a Ubuntu-friendly tool that can organise the mess of movies on my drive nicely?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> vadi: ubuntu doesnt know whats messy or not
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> vadi: bleachbit cleans your computer from files
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | vadi
[05:59] <vadi> Thanks I don't need to delete anything, I just want my movies renamed and series put into folders and so on
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> vadi: but deleting your movies, is your job
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> vadi: what you can do is find a package that organizes your media
[06:00] <vadi> That's what I asked about
[06:03] <Kon-> vadi, digiKam
[06:03] <vadi> Works for movies?
[06:04] <Kon-> "With digiKam, you will be able to read video metadata, as movies length, video frames per seconds, video size, and encoding options, in goal to populate the database at scanning and to perform searches on your collection about video properties. You will be able to play video in embedded preview mode, and while a slideshow. This include to preview video from your camera device before downloading (only with USB Mass Storage connection mode)."
[06:04] <Kon-> Requires FFmpeg ofc
[06:05] <vadi> I'd like to organise the movies on my drive, not within an application - know if digikam can export the organised stuff back to the drive?
[06:57] <pythonick> hello everybody
[06:57] <pythonick> is it possible to start a shell with ssh -i /home/damiano/.ssh/root@key root@myip -p 1234 ?
[06:57] <pythonick> i would like to connect to my server without rewrite the command every time
[06:58] <pythonick> or searching it in shell history :D
[07:00] <ducasse> pythonick: put it in ~/.ssh/config - see 'man ssh_config' for details
[07:00] <EriC^^> pythonick: you could make an alias too
[07:00] <pythonick> ducasse, yes my key is there
[07:01] <EriC^^> alias sshc='ssh -i /home/damiano/.ssh/root@key root@myip -p 1234'
[07:01] <pythonick> but i would like to create an icon somehow ...that start a terminal with my server
[07:01] <pythonick> EriC^^, oh sounds interesting...
[07:01] <pythonick> thne ? just call sshc ?
[07:01] <pythonick> *then
[07:01] <Avere[m]> Hey guys. I'm having some issues with restoring a backup. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/87z7fd/how_do_i_restore_an_encrypted_home_directory_from/
[07:01] <Avere[m]> Where did I go wrong
[07:02] <EriC^^> pythonick: make a .desktop file with "Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'ssh -i /home/damiano/.ssh/root@key root@myip -p 1234; bash'"
[07:02] <EriC^^> pythonick: double clicking it should open gnome-terminal and connect, and leave it open when you disconnect
[07:03] <pythonick> EriC^^, location ?
[07:03] <EriC^^> pythonick: whereever you want it
[07:03] <asyterirc36810> \DEBUG
[07:04] <EriC^^> pythonick: it has to be +x
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