[08:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:13] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[08:16] <brobostigon> o/
[13:55] <Merblammo> Hi. I'm trying to dual boot xubuntu on a laptop that already had Windows 10, but the only thing that ever boots off the HDD is Win10. I've disabled secure boot, disabled hibernate, but Grub never loads. Help :s
[13:57] <Merblammo> Btw xubuntu is installed, just won't boot
[14:09] <Seeker`> http://www.spacex.com/webcast iridium 5 launch in ~4 minutes
[14:23] <penguin42> hmm, not usual presenter
[14:57] <spaceloop> t
[15:01] <diddledan> spaceloop: this isn't minecraft, you don't need to press T to talk
[15:05] <spaceloop> thanks diddledan, it was my actually irc client popping open ubuntu-uk as I was trying to /join
[15:39]  * penguin42 fights a dist-upgrade - it's recreating initrd's for kernel versions that don't exist and filling /boot
[17:00] <penguin42> oh, that's damn annoying: https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/03/spacex-launches-a-rocket-but-noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/
[17:03] <TJ-> penguin42: "update-initramfs -d -k <version>" for each non-existent version
[17:04] <penguin42> TJ-: Hmm, what does that do other than delete it from /boot ?
[17:05] <TJ-> penguin42: removes the reference from /var/lib/initrams-tools/<version>
[17:06] <penguin42> TJ-: Why doesn't that happen automatically when the kernel dpkg's are removed?
[17:06] <TJ-> s/rams/ramfs/
[17:06] <TJ-> When the system runs out of space it bails before it reaches the code that removes the reference
[17:07] <penguin42> oh, that's unfortunate - so you mean when it runs out of space it end s up not doing the thing that could avoid it running out of space?
[17:09] <TJ-> penguin42: yes; if I recall correctly it's due to postponed triggers, and then bailing before triggers are carried out
[17:11] <penguin42> TJ-: Thanks; I'd ended up removing the /var/lib/initramfs-tools by hand and was upgraded before getting your reply; one for next time
[17:12] <TJ-> I've got a script to do it automatically that has come in useful for users in #ubuntu, and I wrote some instructions a couple days ago. There's a tip at the end might help for the future: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Thdtg9jCjp/
[17:14] <penguin42> nod
[17:52] <Azelphur> I'm really trying hard to get along with duckduckgo, but it kinda sucks, is there any way to make it less terrible?
[17:56] <DJones> Afternoonall
[17:57] <daftykins> Azelphur: i'd been playing with it on my desktop too, it is annoying you have to explicitly go to the images section sometimes - and results haven't been that ace - what are you seeing?
[17:57] <daftykins> hi DJones \o
[17:57] <Azelphur> daftykins: just terrible results
[17:58] <DJones> daftykins: How do, long time nospeaketc,hope things are goodwith you
[17:58] <Azelphur> daftykins: I mean, I could see myself using it with !g every time - but I suppose that kinda violates the point
[17:59] <DJones> Excuse lack of  spaces, need to de-crumb my keyboard
[18:00] <daftykins> DJones: :D yeah not too bad thanks, 2017 was a year of drama with house insurance works due to water leaks - but everywhere is nicely insulated and i got a new bathroom out of it too \o/ so pretty ace! how's about in your corner of the world?
[18:02] <DJones> Improving, 4 months with my  being ill (Pneumonia, bronchitis, sepsis etc,multiple stays in hospital) Due  to go back to work next week  on phased return
[18:03] <DJones> with my wife
[18:04] <DJones> But seems good now
[18:05] <daftykins> oh that sounds horrible, glad you've made it through!
[18:05] <penguin42> DJones: Oh, fun
[18:06] <DJones> Yeah, getting over it now
[18:14] <daftykins> i've been meaning to get into more exercise so i can try and get some fitness back, slightest bit of rain and i wimp out though ;)
[18:15] <daftykins> up to London on Tuesday too, gotta attend a clients BT engineer phone line install
[18:16] <zmoylan-pi> up to the big smoke... :-)
[18:20] <daftykins> yip!
[18:20] <daftykins> £180 return on flights
[18:22] <penguin42> daftykins: And what is the chance the engineer will show up ?
[18:22] <daftykins> i've no experience of these things on the mainland as it goes, since we don't have BT :D
[18:22] <zmoylan-pi> daftykins will be there, he's an engineer... :-)
[18:23] <daftykins> just a nice big afternoon range appointment time for Wednesday the 4th, but i'll be there 'til Friday so who knows
[18:23] <daftykins> yeah i'll ask the apartments caretaker to let me into the basement and hook it up for us :D
[18:23] <daftykins> as it is i'm going over to terminate all the apartments network points to the patch panel and put all the gadgets in (bar the TVs) so should be fun
[18:24] <zmoylan-pi> for some reason young indiana jones tv show is popping up in my brain were he has to receive a very important phone call... :-)
[18:32] <daftykins> sounds like my trip preparation should be watching that!
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> i remember it after only seeing it once many moons ago... http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Prague,_August_1917