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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I'm a hard -1 on shipping any snaps by default.00:23
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Not until the platform becomes *much* more mature should we not give users the option...00:23
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Heyo all.00:51
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> did we clear: https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/214/ ?00:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> oh there it is.00:56
valorietsimonq2: I don't think we ever discussed shipping snaps by default? 01:27
tsimonq2valorie: It's brought up on the ML.01:27
valorieit was just a discussion of backends for discover01:27
valorieoh01:27
valoriewell, ML discussions happen on the ML, correct?01:27
valorieand irc discussions on irc01:28
valorielol01:28
tsimonq2I'm making a quick comment. :P01:28
valorieok01:28
valorieI could change my mind if they get better and are more ubiquitous but for now I agree with you01:28
tsimonq2Absolutely.01:29
valorieahoneybun: dude you missed the meeting01:29
valoriebut I sort of ran it and we got some stuff done01:29
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Yeah it's been a morning/afternoon over at my apartment sorry.01:34
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IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Rebooting to install 18-04 Beta-1 for Testing - Very exciting09:48
sick_rimmitBionic Beaver in the house10:13
sick_rimmitacheronuk: Ping10:59
sick_rimmitsorry to bother you, but do you have the pp URL for Krita 4 testins again please, I lost it11:00
acheronuksick_rimmit: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc11:01
sick_rimmitBless you thanks mate, I'll install that and test now11:02
acheronukif you could comment on LP: #1760347 once you have tested, that would be great11:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1760347 in krita (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Krita 4.0.0 for Bionic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176034711:02
acheronukKrita team should have a 4.0.1 bugfix done befroe final freeze11:03
sick_rimmitSure thing, I will11:03
sick_rimmitSo far I am loving it11:03
sick_rimmit18-04 Beta11:03
sick_rimmitLove the dark theming11:03
acheronuk:D11:03
sick_rimmitOne thing I noticed, which I think is really important to address is during the installer phase11:03
sick_rimmitThe links in the pages don't open when I click on them11:04
sick_rimmitI really think we're missing an opportunity to draw new folks into the community with those not working11:04
acheronuksick_rimmit: may be fixed in the latest daily iso?11:04
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @ahoneybun ? ^^^11:05
sick_rimmitOoo, OK cool. I will download again later and re-isntall11:05
acheronuknot sure though. Aaron was looking at it, but don't know if fixed11:05
acheronukumm. links crash. looks like some files need adding back from the last de-cruft of the settings package. adding back..... 11:26
acheronukthat is the release notes link^^^11:32
acheronukothers don't seem to work, but don't crash :/11:32
* acheronuk goes for Sunday lunch11:33
sick_rimmitacheronuk: Enjoy :-D11:51
sick_rimmitKrita checks out Good - Love the new features - Commented on LP and set status confirmed11:52
sick_rimmitBe good to get that in LTS11:52
BluesKajHiyas all14:40
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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @acheronuk I don't think you can do that tbh.16:55
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Do what?16:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Open links from the installer slideshow.16:57
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It's totally possible.16:57
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And to be honest, I'm worried it's not possible.16:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> IDK they are links just like normal HTML but don't work.16:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> So I don't know.16:58
santa_good evening everyone17:01
tsimonq2Hey Santa.17:01
tsimonq2How goes it?17:01
santa_fine, thank you Simon17:01
tsimonq2Good to hear.17:01
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valoriehappy Easter all21:44
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Chocolate bunnies and Cadbury eggs for everyone \o/21:47
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valorie\o/21:49
valorieI forgot to eat even one choc. egg!21:49
valoriebut I did have a mimosa with brunch21:49
valorie:-)21:49
IrcsomeBot* DarinMiller had chocolate truffle21:51
valorieI might have a choc. heart left from Vday21:53
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_latte-dock build #240: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_latte-dock/240/22:30
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phoenix_firebrdvalorie: where did the greeter logs go?23:01
valoriegreeter logs?23:02
valorienot sure to what you refer?23:03
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: the sddm greeter log23:05
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: previously there was a folder in /var/log called greeter where the greeter logs where present, now that folder is not present, have things changed?23:05
valoriethat I don't know23:06
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: one a kubuntu user testing 18.04, has his greeter crashing always on boot...23:06
valorieand SDDM isn't KDE software....23:06
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: I know, but what about the kde greeter?23:07
valoriemight be some docs on github where they are based23:07
valoriekdm is very old23:07
valoriewhich is why we don't use it any more23:07
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: no not that one23:07
valorieno longer supported23:07
valoriethat is the only one there ever was23:07
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: no I am not talking about kdm or gdm23:07
valoriewe used lightdm for awhile23:07
phoenix_firebrdvalorie: ya thats it23:07
acheronukphoenix_firebrd: 'journalctl -u sddm.service'23:07
valoriebut then they threw  some hindrances to the devels23:08
phoenix_firebrdacheronuk: valorie thank you so much 23:08
acheronukI think?23:08
phoenix_firebrdacheronuk: do we need to use sudo to peak into /var/log/sddm.log?23:09
phoenix_firebrdpeek23:09
acheronukas far as I know, that is always empty, and it's all in systemd journal23:11
* acheronuk is not quite sure when that happened!23:12
phoenix_firebrdacheronuk: it seems the text based logging will become absolute when systemd proliferates  23:13
AlexZionHi everyone, I'm testing Kubuntu18.04 32bit on a quite old desktop and I'm very surprised to see that it works pretty well even on a P4 3.2Ghz with just 2 Gb of ram and a Geforce 6600 as Graphic Card, my congratulation to any developer is working on the project23:18
valorieoooooooo, a 32-bit tester!!!!!!!!!!!123:20
valorieAlexZion: if you are willing to test with that machine, the team would loooooove to see that23:20
AlexZioneven with the nouveau driver I can watch video HD even more fluid than on a kubuntu 14.04 with the 304 nvidia driver ....23:21
phoenix_firebrdAlexZion: thats my previous system you have, nice23:21
valoriehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/ < ---- beta 2 testing this next week23:21
valorieset yourself up on the qatracker if you are interested in helping out23:22
valorieI would LOVE it23:22
valorieit's like pulling teeth to find people with the hardware who are willing to test23:22
AlexZionkeeping to upgrade this system I will get the last final release ? 23:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @AlexZion, Yes.23:23
acheronukyou will23:23
AlexZionok , so if I can help in some way I'll be proud of it 23:24
acheronukplease do. :)23:24
valorie\o/23:25
valorieAlexZion: are you on any of our mail lists?23:25
AlexZionok , but for example I couldn't install a properly graphic driver and testing with 3d staff I get plasma completelly freezed  23:27
AlexZionyeah I'm already on the kubuntu-devel mailing list23:28
AlexZionbut is a long time that I don follow it :D23:29
AlexZionactually I have 288 unreaded message in that folder :D23:30
valoriewe announce calls for testing on the website, twitter etc too23:31
AlexZionI know it but unfortunately I don't always have time to spend on following the development of kubuntu 23:32
AlexZionbut as I sad I'll try to test it and start to report the problems ....23:33
AlexZionlet's start with the graphic driver, there is a way I can get the nvidia driver installed !?!23:34
AlexZionbecause the ge force 6600 works just with the 304.xxx version of the driver and is not on the repository23:35
valorie!info nvidia-graphics-drivers-30423:39
ubottuPackage nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 does not exist in bionic23:39
valoriehmmm23:39
acheronukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/174800023:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1748000 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu) "Remove from the archive: this legacy driver is unmaintained upstream" [Critical,Fix released]23:40
AlexZionI tried even using the ppa graphics-driver  but after the install Start with a shell screen and I cannot use anynore the guy 23:41
AlexZionso I fixed by "purging" the nvidia driver and reinstalling few other things 23:42
acheronuklooks like the module build would crash and burn, even if you could install it23:42
valorienouveau doesn't work for you, AlexZion?23:44
AlexZionwell it works but not always :D23:44
AlexZionfor example even opening blender with a simple scene and playing around a bit I get everything freezed and I can just reset 23:46
AlexZionor trying to record a light screencast ....23:47
AlexZionI mean simple action that worked well on Kubuntu 14.04 but with the 304 driver installed 23:47
valoriesucks that they stopped supporting that23:49
AlexZioneverything else it seems already pretty fine actually 23:49
acheronukmamarley: debdiff in comment #2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/173775023:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1737750 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 304.137-0ubuntu2 ADT test failure with linux 4.15.0-1.2" [Medium,In progress]23:51
acheronukmamarley: any chance for driver ppa?23:52
AlexZionI want to share with you a screenshot taken few days ago , I was very surprised to see the small amount of RAM used  :D23:53
AlexZionhttps://ibin.co/3wXvTOwOoASl.png23:53
acheronuko_O23:54
acheronukplasma has become very light for what it does :)23:55
valorieI agree!23:58
valorielight, and quick23:58
AlexZionhttps://imagebin.ca/v/3wwCUl9WOQ7h  - this is the actual desktop ...23:59

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