 I'm a hard -1 on shipping any snaps by default.
 Not until the platform becomes *much* more mature should we not give users the option...
 Heyo all.
 did we clear: https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/214/ ?
 oh there it is.
[01:27] <valorie> tsimonq2: I don't think we ever discussed shipping snaps by default? 
[01:27] <tsimonq2> valorie: It's brought up on the ML.
[01:27] <valorie> it was just a discussion of backends for discover
[01:27] <valorie> oh
[01:27] <valorie> well, ML discussions happen on the ML, correct?
[01:28] <valorie> and irc discussions on irc
[01:28] <valorie> lol
[01:28] <tsimonq2> I'm making a quick comment. :P
[01:28] <valorie> ok
[01:28] <valorie> I could change my mind if they get better and are more ubiquitous but for now I agree with you
[01:29] <tsimonq2> Absolutely.
[01:29] <valorie> ahoneybun: dude you missed the meeting
[01:29] <valorie> but I sort of ran it and we got some stuff done
 Yeah it's been a morning/afternoon over at my apartment sorry.
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 Rebooting to install 18-04 Beta-1 for Testing - Very exciting
[10:13] <sick_rimmit> Bionic Beaver in the house
[10:59] <sick_rimmit> acheronuk: Ping
[11:00] <sick_rimmit> sorry to bother you, but do you have the pp URL for Krita 4 testins again please, I lost it
[11:01] <acheronuk> sick_rimmit: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc
[11:02] <sick_rimmit> Bless you thanks mate, I'll install that and test now
[11:02] <acheronuk> if you could comment on LP: #1760347 once you have tested, that would be great
[11:03] <acheronuk> Krita team should have a 4.0.1 bugfix done befroe final freeze
[11:03] <sick_rimmit> Sure thing, I will
[11:03] <sick_rimmit> So far I am loving it
[11:03] <sick_rimmit> 18-04 Beta
[11:03] <sick_rimmit> Love the dark theming
[11:03] <acheronuk> :D
[11:03] <sick_rimmit> One thing I noticed, which I think is really important to address is during the installer phase
[11:04] <sick_rimmit> The links in the pages don't open when I click on them
[11:04] <sick_rimmit> I really think we're missing an opportunity to draw new folks into the community with those not working
[11:04] <acheronuk> sick_rimmit: may be fixed in the latest daily iso?
 @ahoneybun ? ^^^
[11:05] <sick_rimmit> Ooo, OK cool. I will download again later and re-isntall
[11:05] <acheronuk> not sure though. Aaron was looking at it, but don't know if fixed
[11:26] <acheronuk> umm. links crash. looks like some files need adding back from the last de-cruft of the settings package. adding back..... 
[11:32] <acheronuk> that is the release notes link^^^
[11:32] <acheronuk> others don't seem to work, but don't crash :/
[11:33]  * acheronuk goes for Sunday lunch
[11:51] <sick_rimmit> acheronuk: Enjoy :-D
[11:52] <sick_rimmit> Krita checks out Good - Love the new features - Commented on LP and set status confirmed
[11:52] <sick_rimmit> Be good to get that in LTS
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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 @acheronuk I don't think you can do that tbh.
 Do what?
 Open links from the installer slideshow.
 It's totally possible.
 And to be honest, I'm worried it's not possible.
 IDK they are links just like normal HTML but don't work.
 So I don't know.
[17:01] <santa_> good evening everyone
[17:01] <tsimonq2> Hey Santa.
[17:01] <tsimonq2> How goes it?
[17:01] <santa_> fine, thank you Simon
[17:01] <tsimonq2> Good to hear.
[21:44] <valorie> happy Easter all
 Chocolate bunnies and Cadbury eggs for everyone \o/
[21:49] <valorie> \o/
[21:49] <valorie> I forgot to eat even one choc. egg!
[21:49] <valorie> but I did have a mimosa with brunch
[21:49] <valorie> :-)
[21:53] <valorie> I might have a choc. heart left from Vday
[22:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_latte-dock build #240: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_latte-dock/240/
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[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: where did the greeter logs go?
[23:02] <valorie> greeter logs?
[23:03] <valorie> not sure to what you refer?
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: the sddm greeter log
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: previously there was a folder in /var/log called greeter where the greeter logs where present, now that folder is not present, have things changed?
[23:06] <valorie> that I don't know
[23:06] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: one a kubuntu user testing 18.04, has his greeter crashing always on boot...
[23:06] <valorie> and SDDM isn't KDE software....
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: I know, but what about the kde greeter?
[23:07] <valorie> might be some docs on github where they are based
[23:07] <valorie> kdm is very old
[23:07] <valorie> which is why we don't use it any more
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: no not that one
[23:07] <valorie> no longer supported
[23:07] <valorie> that is the only one there ever was
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: no I am not talking about kdm or gdm
[23:07] <valorie> we used lightdm for awhile
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> valorie: ya thats it
[23:07] <acheronuk> phoenix_firebrd: 'journalctl -u sddm.service'
[23:08] <valorie> but then they threw  some hindrances to the devels
[23:08] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: valorie thank you so much 
[23:08] <acheronuk> I think?
[23:09] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: do we need to use sudo to peak into /var/log/sddm.log?
[23:09] <phoenix_firebrd> peek
[23:11] <acheronuk> as far as I know, that is always empty, and it's all in systemd journal
[23:12]  * acheronuk is not quite sure when that happened!
[23:13] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: it seems the text based logging will become absolute when systemd proliferates  
[23:18] <AlexZion> Hi everyone, I'm testing Kubuntu18.04 32bit on a quite old desktop and I'm very surprised to see that it works pretty well even on a P4 3.2Ghz with just 2 Gb of ram and a Geforce 6600 as Graphic Card, my congratulation to any developer is working on the project
[23:20] <valorie> oooooooo, a 32-bit tester!!!!!!!!!!!1
[23:20] <valorie> AlexZion: if you are willing to test with that machine, the team would loooooove to see that
[23:21] <AlexZion> even with the nouveau driver I can watch video HD even more fluid than on a kubuntu 14.04 with the 304 nvidia driver ....
[23:21] <phoenix_firebrd> AlexZion: thats my previous system you have, nice
[23:21] <valorie> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/ < ---- beta 2 testing this next week
[23:22] <valorie> set yourself up on the qatracker if you are interested in helping out
[23:22] <valorie> I would LOVE it
[23:22] <valorie> it's like pulling teeth to find people with the hardware who are willing to test
[23:22] <AlexZion> keeping to upgrade this system I will get the last final release ? 
 @AlexZion, Yes.
[23:23] <acheronuk> you will
[23:24] <AlexZion> ok , so if I can help in some way I'll be proud of it 
[23:24] <acheronuk> please do. :)
[23:25] <valorie> \o/
[23:25] <valorie> AlexZion: are you on any of our mail lists?
[23:27] <AlexZion> ok , but for example I couldn't install a properly graphic driver and testing with 3d staff I get plasma completelly freezed  
[23:28] <AlexZion> yeah I'm already on the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[23:29] <AlexZion> but is a long time that I don follow it :D
[23:30] <AlexZion> actually I have 288 unreaded message in that folder :D
[23:31] <valorie> we announce calls for testing on the website, twitter etc too
[23:32] <AlexZion> I know it but unfortunately I don't always have time to spend on following the development of kubuntu 
[23:33] <AlexZion> but as I sad I'll try to test it and start to report the problems ....
[23:34] <AlexZion> let's start with the graphic driver, there is a way I can get the nvidia driver installed !?!
[23:35] <AlexZion> because the ge force 6600 works just with the 304.xxx version of the driver and is not on the repository
[23:39] <valorie> !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-304
[23:39] <valorie> hmmm
[23:40] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1748000
[23:41] <AlexZion> I tried even using the ppa graphics-driver  but after the install Start with a shell screen and I cannot use anynore the guy 
[23:42] <AlexZion> so I fixed by "purging" the nvidia driver and reinstalling few other things 
[23:42] <acheronuk> looks like the module build would crash and burn, even if you could install it
[23:44] <valorie> nouveau doesn't work for you, AlexZion?
[23:44] <AlexZion> well it works but not always :D
[23:46] <AlexZion> for example even opening blender with a simple scene and playing around a bit I get everything freezed and I can just reset 
[23:47] <AlexZion> or trying to record a light screencast ....
[23:47] <AlexZion> I mean simple action that worked well on Kubuntu 14.04 but with the 304 driver installed 
[23:49] <valorie> sucks that they stopped supporting that
[23:49] <AlexZion> everything else it seems already pretty fine actually 
[23:51] <acheronuk> mamarley: debdiff in comment #2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1737750
[23:52] <acheronuk> mamarley: any chance for driver ppa?
[23:53] <AlexZion> I want to share with you a screenshot taken few days ago , I was very surprised to see the small amount of RAM used  :D
[23:53] <AlexZion> https://ibin.co/3wXvTOwOoASl.png
[23:54] <acheronuk> o_O
[23:55] <acheronuk> plasma has become very light for what it does :)
[23:58] <valorie> I agree!
[23:58] <valorie> light, and quick
[23:59] <AlexZion> https://imagebin.ca/v/3wwCUl9WOQ7h  - this is the actual desktop ...