| lopta | Mornin' | 02:25 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | \o | 02:26 |
| daftykins | how's the xubuntu going? this a first time install? | 02:26 |
| lopta | Well, this won't be the first time she's run Xubuntu. First time in recent years though. | 02:26 |
| daftykins | ah, what else? | 02:27 |
| lopta | Qimo was her first, then Xubuntu, then Ubuntu, recently Solus and this evening she's probably going back to Xubuntu. | 02:28 |
| lopta | (Qimo seems to have been a repackaging of Xubuntu aimed at education). | 02:28 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 02:29 |
| daftykins | i suppose you do get a bit more of the full experience by roadtesting on bare metal versus trying them out in VMs | 02:29 |
| lopta | I don't even remember why we went from Qimo to Xubuntu. I think she went to Ubuntu when I replaced her PC. | 02:30 |
| lopta | ...then Solus when I installed an SSD. | 02:30 |
| lopta | We quite like Solus but one of the few games she plays won't run on that. | 02:33 |
| daftykins | :> | 02:36 |
| lopta | ...thought about putting Lubuntu on there. Not sure what the pros and cons are between that and Xubuntu. | 02:36 |
| daftykins | just down to personal preference of which desktop you prefer | 02:37 |
| lopta | What's Lubuntu? Lxde? | 02:37 |
| daftykins | i had always preferred tinkering with xubuntu for xfce goodness over LXDE, yeah | 02:38 |
| lopta | I've used Xfce in the past. I'm not that familiar with Lxde. | 02:38 |
| daftykins | i felt it sacrificed a bit too much | 02:39 |
| ali1234 | xubuntu 18.04 currently has a bug... setup and first login are delayed by 75 seconds. after that it's okay | 02:42 |
| ali1234 | just in case you decide to try those :) | 02:43 |
| * lopta checks which one he's downloaded | 02:43 | |
| lopta | 17.10.1, apparently. | 02:43 |
| daftykins | non-LTS D: | 02:43 |
| ali1234 | 18.04 is not released yet. i suggest to wait for it to be released | 02:43 |
| ali1234 | it's like 3 weeks away | 02:43 |
| ali1234 | otherwise you will just have to upgrade in 3 months | 02:44 |
| lopta | That's ok. | 02:45 |
| lopta | She doesn't have a lot of things so it's fairly painless to nuke and pave. | 02:46 |
| daftykins | hmm got a stack of DDR3 so thought i'd have a go at finding an LGA775 mobo with 4 x DDR3 slots, it's been pretty tough going though | 02:47 |
| lopta | I don't think LGA775 even supports DDR3 | 02:48 |
| daftykins | sure does, i have a rare board behind me with both DDR2 and 3 slots on the same board | 02:48 |
| * lopta is surprised | 02:49 | |
| daftykins | asus P5KC :) | 02:49 |
| lopta | I have a few Core 2 Duo chips on the shelf but I don't think I'll get to use them. | 02:50 |
| lopta | (aside from the E4500 that's on my general workhorse) | 02:51 |
| daftykins | a friend gave me a core 2 extreme X9650, so my Q6600 quad is sat on the shelf right now | 02:51 |
| lopta | I'd have to look that one up. | 02:56 |
| daftykins | 3GHz quad with oodles of cache vs. 2.4GHz quad with less | 02:58 |
| lopta | Cache is good. We like cache. | 02:58 |
| lopta | Looks as though the two other Core2 Duo chips I have are an E7400 and E8400. The 8400 has half the cache of your X9650 and fewer cores of course but it also runs cooler. | 03:01 |
| lopta | They're all museum pieces anyway. | 03:02 |
| daftykins | yeah, my real machine is downstairs :> | 03:04 |
| daftykins | i've got a stack of HDDs here i want to throw together for fun, but i'm lacking a good combo of suitable hardware really | 03:04 |
| * lopta nods | 03:05 | |
| lopta | My E4500 box has a mirrored pair of 1T WD Red disks and no monitor. | 03:05 |
| daftykins | let's see... it's an old E6750 in my file server, though i'm finding the lack of USB 3 makes it such that it's quicker to get data off it from another PC over gigabit LAN xD | 03:07 |
| lopta | I don't think my OS even has USB 3 support yet, though it's a while since I checked. | 03:08 |
| lopta | Firewire used to work though. :-) | 03:12 |
| daftykins | that's one dead interface now! | 03:12 |
| lopta | Says the person building Socket T machines ;-) | 03:12 |
| daftykins | ah i'm just juggling old parts i already have here for free! they're still useful as headless servers running Linux | 03:13 |
| lopta | It's still handy for sucking video from old miniDV cameras. | 03:13 |
| daftykins | ah never owned one | 03:13 |
| lopta | ...and I think I have some Firewire disk enclosures here too. | 03:14 |
| lopta | Depending on your OS you can also use Firewire as a network interface but... I don't recommend it. | 03:14 |
| daftykins | i'd replace the CPU+mobo+RAM in my file server but... it's running well | 03:14 |
| lopta | "If it aint broke, don't fix it". | 03:15 |
| daftykins | oh i dabbled with that when i was a kid, discovered it doesn't support IP so that died quick | 03:15 |
| daftykins | would've been 400Mb otherwise yeah :) | 03:15 |
| lopta | It supports IP but there's some latency there. | 03:15 |
| lopta | Plenty of bandwidth but with latency. | 03:15 |
| daftykins | ah well perhaps things have changed | 03:15 |
| lopta | daftykins: It's possible Linux doesn't support that. I've never tried. | 03:16 |
| daftykins | think i was on windows 98 / XP back when i had the cable the first time | 03:16 |
| lopta | Ah right, I've no idea whether Windows can do it. | 03:17 |
| daftykins | if i'm honest i'd love some 10GbE toys, 1Gb has felt slow for the large files of HD video for quite a while | 03:17 |
| lopta | 25G ftw ;-) | 03:18 |
| lopta | It's out in the wild but I'm not sure whether it's formally ratified yet. | 03:18 |
| lopta | (I'm a bit behind on my networking news) | 03:18 |
| daftykins | i see cheap cards for 2.5/5/10 but the trouble of course is the power consumption | 03:18 |
| * lopta hands daftykins a PLIP cable. | 03:19 | |
| daftykins | my file server is the aforementioned core 2 duo with 8GB DDR2, an SSD, 6 x 2TB in RAID5 and 2 x 2TB drives, whole lot pulls about 85W | 03:19 |
| lopta | I'm not keen on RAID5 but if it works for you, that's ok. | 03:20 |
| lopta | I lean more towards RAID 1+0 | 03:20 |
| daftykins | i put it together a long time ago, so it's a legacy situation now - i tend to do 6 minimum now | 03:20 |
| daftykins | but more recently i've dabbled with ZFS and RAIDz2 | 03:20 |
| lopta | I know the FreeBSD people like ZFS. | 03:20 |
| daftykins | ja, usable on *buntu too | 03:21 |
| lopta | (and Solaris, and probably Illumos) | 03:21 |
| lopta | Come to think of it, I should stand up an OpenIndiana box for test purposes. | 03:24 |
| lopta | ...that or OmniOS. | 03:24 |
| * lopta looks around the room for spare hardware | 03:26 | |
| * lopta accidentally prices up new hardware | 03:35 | |
| daftykins | easy mistake to make ^_^ | 03:38 |
| daftykins | tempted by a board i've found on ebay, but it says untested + they try to say no returns | 03:38 |
| lopta | Is it morally wrong to put a $93 chip in a $50 board? :-) | 03:38 |
| daftykins | i'd found about that pricing level on some parts recently | 03:44 |
| daftykins | cheapest boards with intel gigabit LAN adapters + a 7th or 8th generation i3 | 03:44 |
| lopta | RAM is what I'm struggling with at the moment. | 03:45 |
| daftykins | choice or the nasty prices DDR4 has reached? :) | 03:47 |
| lopta | Lack of choice, for the DDR4-2666 DIMMs. | 03:53 |
| lopta | Time to re-image. Wish me luck! | 04:05 |
| === knight0rk is now known as KnighW0rk | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:46 |
| squadBugg_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService | 07:51 |
| daftykins | o0 | 07:52 |
| KnighW0rk | hey daftykins how are you man | 07:53 |
| === KnighW0rk is now known as knightwise | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!