[00:00] <wxl> no, they don't work fine
[00:00] <simonizor[m]> Yeah, they do
[00:00] <simonizor[m]> I've been running it since 18.04 daily started
[00:00] <tsimonq2> simonizor[m]: We *aren't* putting out a Lubuntu Next release, that's the point.
[00:00] <simonizor[m]> Other than a few derps on from LXQt packaging, it's been smooth
[00:00] <tsimonq2> They're supported by Ubuntu for only nine months.
[00:01] <tsimonq2> After that, bugs get closed as won'tfix for Bionic.
[00:01] <tsimonq2> We're declaring that.
[00:01] <tsimonq2> Going forward, it will be different, but we have to get the LTS out of the way.
[00:01] <tsimonq2> You also have to understand that we can't just pull the packages.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> Not only is it a lot of work that we don't have control to do (so it means a bug for each one), it then really breaks upgrades.
[00:02] <simonizor[m]> Seems pretty lame.  I can install any other DE on Ubuntu LTS and have it be supported for the whole term of the LTS regardless of whether there's an offical flavor or not
[00:02] <tsimonq2> This isn't any other DE.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> We're declaring that we won't support LXQt for the length of the LTS.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> That's it.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> You can use it, but you do so at your own risk.
[00:02] <simonizor[m]> So don't put a package on an LTS release for it
[00:03] <simonizor[m]> You doing so and then not supporting it after 9 months is highly confusing and pretty silly
[00:03] <tsimonq2> *We don't have the power to do that.*
[00:03] <tsimonq2> We DO have the power to say what we will support.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> And, it's treating it like a normal release.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> Normal releases get nine months of support.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> This is what Kubuntu did when Plasma 5 was introduced.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> It's the recommended protocol.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> So, don't be calling US stupid.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> You're welcome to upgrade to 18.10.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> (When it comes out.)
[00:05] <tsimonq2> The long and short of this is: the announcement we've put out is the appropriate action to take here.
[00:05] <simonizor[m]> Yeah, no.  Advising people to do that in the first place is extra silly.
[00:05] <tsimonq2> That's your opinion.
[00:05] <tsimonq2> I'm following protocol.
[00:05] <simonizor[m]> I wanted to like LXQt, but I just don't think y'all are going to be able to pull of what I hoped.  Lumina, on the other hand, is already there.
[00:06] <tsimonq2> LXQt isn't supported by us in Xenial, by the way.
[00:06] <tsimonq2> And again, that's your opinion.
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[04:09] <lubot2> <Sergio_Security> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/Vj6IPVM.jpg Looks like photobucket doesn't like hotlinking :S
[04:24] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> Aww :(
[04:24] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> I'll fix that tomorrow.
[04:24] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> Thanks for noticing.
[04:24] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, (it's April 2nd for me)
[04:25] <lubot2> <Wolfenprey> 3 here.
[11:41] <wlwl2> hi
[11:42] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> Hello
[12:10] <lubot2> <VikingRedwolf> Hello .__.
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[14:10] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> http://news.softpedia.com/news/lubuntu-next-is-adopting-the-calamares-installer-continues-to-be-in-development-520533.shtml
[14:10] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> :)
[18:17] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[18:17] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[18:36] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[18:36] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[18:59] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[18:59] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 2] (20180403) has been added
[20:31] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> Lubuntu ISOs are going to get a respin.
[20:31] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> I wouldn't bother testing yet.
[20:32] <lubot2> <tsimonq2> I'll update everyone here once there is an ISO which is candidate.
[20:45] <lyn||orian> wow I never realized that